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Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Let’s kick this chat off with a few minutes of introductions—let us know who you are and where you’re joining us from. And remember to use the hashtag #LASMedical on all of your tweets so everyone can follow along!
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
We’re a company that does coaching, consulting, and curriculum development in medicine and the allied health professions, both one on one and with groups/programs. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Hello all. I'm Shereese, from Maryland. I just got in from the #blockchainhealth conference in DC. There are some great things https://t.co/nuUIwTEvpO that space. #LASmedical https://t.co/QUI0hVT1HG
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Let’s get started with our first question! #LASMedical https://t.co/RWsujZGqWE
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth Hi Shereese! #blockchain is so interesting! #LASMedical
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
RT @LAS_Inc_: Let’s get started with our first question! #LASMedical https://t.co/RWsujZGqWE
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ I sat with @jamesfbrogan, a med student specializing in #blockchain. Great conference #lasmedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @LAS_Inc_: Let’s get started with our first question! #LASMedical https://t.co/RWsujZGqWE
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth @jamesfbrogan Fascinating! @jamesfbrogan, we would love to know more about what it means to be a med student focusing on #blockchain! #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
#LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan What about high stakes exams? Enlighten me, doc. I thought all med school exams were high stakes #LASMedical
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
@LAS_Inc_ Hi it’s Loren. Late arrival!! #LASmedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@Jim_TheRocktor @ShereesePubHlth @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan What do you think the purpose of these exams was? Did they fulfill that purpose? #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@lorenlas1 Hi Loren! Welcome to the chat! #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan Great question, @ShereesePubHlth! High-stakes basically means the results inform big decisions—a longer definition can be found here: https://t.co/15r3OHqjfa #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Thanks, @LAS_Inc_ High-Stakes Test Definition https://t.co/lJNTLaceay #LASMedical https://t.co/aP5ZUzF0Zi
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
Perfectionism and procrastination, neither works well in MedEd #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ @Jim_TheRocktor @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan So the "high stakes" determines rank, field placement, residencies, i suppose? #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
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Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan I once kidded with my #OBGyn that I'd better not find out he was that "C" student who just got by. His feelings were hurt. That said, can bias be injected into exams? #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@Jim_TheRocktor @ShereesePubHlth @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan by definition “high-stakes” exams would be the #USMLE step exams, and the shelf exams, which do play a role in residency decisions, though i certainly take your point that all tests feel high stakes #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan No, doc. Don't we always want to be the best? A friend told me once that he was only concerned with pass/fail but as a patient, I'd like to know my doctor was a good, very engaged student #LASmedical https://t.co/FPOoAzruts
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
I’m going to toss out our second question for tonight’s chat! #LASMedical https://t.co/azCyvHbF9M
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
As they should be #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Absolutely. I would argue that exams are inherently biased in favor of those who can afford all of the best preparatory materials/have ample time for preparation (and aren’t working or caring for someone in that time). #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
I'd always assumed so. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @LAS_Inc_: Absolutely. I would argue that exams are inherently biased in favor of those who can afford all of the best preparatory materials/have ample time for preparation (and aren’t working or caring for someone in that time). #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan There are a fair number of schools moving to pass/fail in those first two years to address this problem—but then the board exams come along! And then clerkships! Never ending assessment. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @LAS_Inc_: @ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan There are a fair number of schools moving to pass/fail in those first two years to address this problem—but then the board exams come along! And then clerkships! Never ending assessment. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
T2 This is an interesting question because if you look at statistics, over-achievers fair well in school, but less so afterward. I often think those who have to work harder appreciate that struggle and can become very good doctors. #LASMedical
PACIO @Pacio_io
RT @ShereesePubHlth: @LAS_Inc_ I sat with @jamesfbrogan, a med student specializing in #blockchain. Great conference #lasmedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @ShereesePubHlth: T2 This is an interesting question because if you look at statistics, over-achievers fair well in school, but less so afterward. I often think those who have to work harder appreciate that struggle and can become very good doctors. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth Absolutely! And I think your previous question about bias remains really relevant here—sometimes students struggle for reasons that have nothing to do with their ability level #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Here’s Q3 for tonight’s chat! #LASmedical https://t.co/RlonNZTV6t
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ I had a conversation with a surgeon today, who touched on this. Burnout is a real problem already, according to him but when other forces are at work, the mental wellness of the student is jeopardized. #LASMedical
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
@LAS_Inc_ Not trying to generalize but I think there are often categories associated with test taking struggles #LASMedical
Nathan Grunewald MD MBA FACS @NathanGrunewald
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan Urology has moved away from high stakes recertification examinations with focus on life-long learning. Take a test, figure out deficiencies, supplement knowledge gaps. It's about understanding and application, not pure memorization. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan Don't encourage him, Dr. Grunewald. #LASMedical https://t.co/X27svwkKWr
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
YES THIS IS EXACTLY IT I literally can’t agree strongly enough. #LASMedical
Nathan Grunewald MD MBA FACS @NathanGrunewald
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor @LAS_Inc_ @AcademicEM @jamesfbrogan Sorry...couldn't help myself...[insert a famous @ShereesePubHlth bitmoji] ;) #LASMedical
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
@LAS_Inc_ Some students struggle with the preparation and cultivating a realistic and effective process while some have difficulty with the actual test even if their fund of knowledge is deep #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
This is wonderful! That model has a lot of similarities with how we approach learning at #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Riddle me this. At the end of the day, we want to optimize care & outcomes. That said, why would pass/fail even be an option? #LASMedical @Jim_TheRocktor
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @lorenlas1: @LAS_Inc_ Some students struggle with the preparation and cultivating a realistic and effective process while some have difficulty with the actual test even if their fund of knowledge is deep #LASMedical
Nathan Grunewald MD MBA FACS @NathanGrunewald
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor Likely related to ease of assessment by the assessors. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor Shouldn't learning be immersive and segmented in terms of at what depth we comprehend. Pass/fail just says. "I get the gist of it" #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @ShereesePubHlth: @Jim_TheRocktor Shouldn't learning be immersive and segmented in terms of at what depth we comprehend. Pass/fail just says. "I get the gist of it" #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @ShereesePubHlth: Riddle me this. At the end of the day, we want to optimize care & outcomes. That said, why would pass/fail even be an option? #LASMedical @Jim_TheRocktor
Nathan Grunewald MD MBA FACS @NathanGrunewald
@lorenlas1 @LAS_Inc_ Sometimes it is just pure poor question design which prevents test takers from understanding question/answer. It is quite difficult to create high quality, unambiguous, clear single answer questions. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor The other potential argument is that you want learners to focus on truly developing fund of knowledge in a way that works for them for their [specialty/interest/etc] and pass/fail as opposed to scores allows more latitude for that. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @NathanGrunewald: @lorenlas1 @LAS_Inc_ Sometimes it is just pure poor question design which prevents test takers from understanding question/answer. It is quite difficult to create high quality, unambiguous, clear single answer questions. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
And here’s our final question for tonight’s #LASMedical chat: https://t.co/ASIWXVUxSf
Loren Deutsch 😷 @lorenlas1
@NathanGrunewald @LAS_Inc_ Totally agree! And sometimes it’s challenging for students to identify the key information from the distracting information or they don’t have a process to narrow the field and eliminate distractors.#LASmedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ @Jim_TheRocktor I always thought verbal essays were a better exam model. You'd know if the information was comprehended & also if the student understands application of what was taught. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @ShereesePubHlth: @LAS_Inc_ @Jim_TheRocktor I always thought verbal essays were a better exam model. You'd know if the information was comprehended & also if the student understands application of what was taught. #LASMedical
Nathan Grunewald MD MBA FACS @NathanGrunewald
@ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor Not necessarily, Pass/Fail can mean a student passes if they answer 50% correctly or 99%. It's about a set point with each "test". #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @NathanGrunewald: @lorenlas1 @LAS_Inc_ Sometimes it is just pure poor question design which prevents test takers from understanding question/answer. It is quite difficult to create high quality, unambiguous, clear single answer questions. #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @LAS_Inc_: @ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor The other potential argument is that you want learners to focus on truly developing fund of knowledge in a way that works for them for their [specialty/interest/etc] and pass/fail as opposed to scores allows more latitude for that. #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @NathanGrunewald: @ShereesePubHlth @Jim_TheRocktor Not necessarily, Pass/Fail can mean a student passes if they answer 50% correctly or 99%. It's about a set point with each "test". #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @lorenlas1: @NathanGrunewald @LAS_Inc_ Totally agree! And sometimes it’s challenging for students to identify the key information from the distracting information or they don’t have a process to narrow the field and eliminate distractors.#LASmedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
T3 I would use verbal essay exam and ask students to write at least one case scenario. #LASMedical https://t.co/cwGNXnEbn9
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Ooh, I love the idea of having students write their own cases!! #assessment #LASMedical #meded
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
I would lean toward more open book scenarios—I want to know if a student can use logic/follow a thought process, not whether they can regurgitate a fact #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ Exploring someone's writing can help you understand how they process what is taught. If they don't do well, it's foundational in steering them in the right direction for next time #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@LAS_Inc_ I love logic and reasoning type exams. You can tell a lot about a person from their reasoning #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
RT @ShereesePubHlth: @LAS_Inc_ Exploring someone's writing can help you understand how they process what is taught. If they don't do well, it's foundational in steering them in the right direction for next time #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @lorenlas1: @NathanGrunewald @LAS_Inc_ Totally agree! And sometimes it’s challenging for students to identify the key information from the distracting information or they don’t have a process to narrow the field and eliminate distractors.#LASmedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
RT @LAS_Inc_: I would lean toward more open book scenarios—I want to know if a student can use logic/follow a thought process, not whether they can regurgitate a fact #LASMedical
Loren Academic Services, Inc. (LAS) @LAS_Inc_
Thank you so much, everyone, for joining us tonight!! What an interesting conversation! We hope to see you back with us in future weeks for the #LASMedical chat.
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Well eventually it ends. When was the last time you had to sit for an exam? #LASMedical
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Great chatting. Have a great weekend everyone #LASMedical https://t.co/cYSzAT8NhB
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA 😷 She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@Jim_TheRocktor Also something I'd assumed #LASMedical
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