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![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Good evening, OTalkers! Thanks for joining in this evening's #OTalk session on the topic of 'Working work into the OT pathway' @OTalk_ |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOT_Work: Good evening, OTalkers! Thanks for joining in this evening's #OTalk session on the topic of 'Working work into the OT pathway' @OTalk_ |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Q1. What does work as an outcome mean within the OT journey? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOT_Work: Q1. What does work as an outcome mean within the OT journey? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Royal College of Occupational Therapists @theRCOT RT @OTalk_: 30 minute warning for tonights #OTalk with @RCOT_Work https://t.co/pqnECRyRuy |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox Here for tonight's #OTalk not much experience of working with this area but excited to learn! |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Work is a recognised health outcome and therefore should form an essential part of our assessment and treatment planning #otalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Ask about work at the beginning and later in ot input if a goal to the individual at the end of input too #otalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ It can be a really concrete goal for people at a time when their world has been thrown into turmoil through illness / injury etc #otalk |
![]() | Royal College of Occupational Therapists @theRCOT Join @RCOT_Work for #OTalk happening right now! |
![]() | Dave Harley @DaveHarleyOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Paid employment is an occupation central to someone's life, and to be holistic we need to ask about this #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @HG1OT: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ It can be a really concrete goal for people at a time when their world has been thrown into turmoil through illness / injury etc #otalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab RT @theRCOT: Join @RCOT_Work for #OTalk happening right now! |
![]() | Louise Crisp 💫 @louisecrisp5 @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ And suppose if they struggled with all that before and work helped overcome them then it would be the outcome maybe? #OTalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT A little late! But pertinent to my role in mental health rehabilitation.. looking forward to the chat! #OTalk https://t.co/a6nzTE3Gpr |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research Unfortunately many therapists shy away from addressing work issues as it’s not seen as core OT business but what can be a more purposeful occupation #OTalk? https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Lynne Merrett @ot_lynne @DaveHarleyOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ That is exactly what I was going to say Dave! We need to be holistic and therefore consider every aspect of the person's occupations so both paid and unpaid work #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @HG1OT: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Work is a recognised health outcome and therefore should form an essential part of our assessment and treatment planning #otalk |
![]() | Jasmine Yule @JazBestwick RT @RCOT_Work: Trying to get the word out for our #OTalk discussion on Tues 15th May. Can we get some retweets out please? |
![]() | Ed Sum Occupational Therapist🏳️🌈❤🏴 @musedNeuroOT @Rehab_Research I work in out-patients so work is core in my practice #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Rehab_Research: Unfortunately many therapists shy away from addressing work issues as it’s not seen as core OT business but what can be a more purposeful occupation #OTalk? https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research Work often signifies someone is not "sick" anymore too #OTalk |
![]() | Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark #OTalk Hi folks. I'm rying to follow tonight's discussion. Can you please add #OTalk to your tweets? Thanks https://t.co/glb4zY6ouw |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work RT @MOHOspark: #OTalk Hi folks. I'm rying to follow tonight's discussion. Can you please add #OTalk to your tweets? Thanks https://t.co/glb4zY6ouw |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research This question needs to be asked of OTs in training. Work is core OT business. Vocational Rehabilitation needs to be embedded in undergraduate curriculum #otalk https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @Rehab_Research I think it's also about getting the balance - for some people work will be a priority but not for others, I think it's important to make sure to ask but not assume it's a priority for everyone #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @MOHOspark Sorry, forgot on a couple #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @martincrab: @Rehab_Research Work often signifies someone is not "sick" anymore too #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research Undergraduate VR training is patchy #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work RT @Rehab_Research: This question needs to be asked of OTs in training. Work is core OT business. Vocational Rehabilitation needs to be embedded in undergraduate curriculum #otalk https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @JenCooperOT @martincrab @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work Yes if no funding for input need to signpost on but ensure ot gets it highlighted for work discussion and assessment to be dealt with by someone in the process. #otalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Work is not a stand alone concept. it's integral to out roles, routines, choices & decisions. It should be incorporated the therapy we practice - integral to health and social care. Work outcomes should form part of the pathways we use and the data we collect #otalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Q2. Have you used work as a goal within your practice, and if so in which setting do you work in? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Louise Crisp 💫 @louisecrisp5 @JenCooperOT @martincrab @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I think it also depends on the conditions of patients for example in mental health there is a lot of stigma so it is is essential for OTs to develop positive relationships with employers/community’s to enable that transition back into work to be a smooth one #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OccupationalFox: @Rehab_Research I think it's also about getting the balance - for some people work will be a priority but not for others, I think it's important to make sure to ask but not assume it's a priority for everyone #OTalk |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @Rehab_Research I feel that in our training there has been more about being person centred and focusing on the individual's goals which might include vocational rehab, we covered it as a possible specialism in one module #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LouiseCrisp5: @JenCooperOT @martincrab @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I think it also depends on the conditions of patients for example in mental health there is a lot of stigma so it is is essential for OTs to develop positive relationships with employers/community’s to enable that transition back into work to be a smooth one #OTalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I work in NHS MH rehab and work is definitely on my agenda, for some it’s not a priority but all will always be asked about their goals in relation to gaining paid or voluntary employment. #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @HG1OT: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Work is not a stand alone concept. it's integral to out roles, routines, choices & decisions. It should be incorporated the therapy we practice - integral to health and social care. Work outcomes should form part of the pathways we use and the data we collect #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOT_Work: Q2. Have you used work as a goal within your practice, and if so in which setting do you work in? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @martincrab @Rehab_Research post graduate VR training is also very patchy - as are VR services generally! #otalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @LouiseCrisp5 @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ This is the vocational rehab part of work input, to help individuals develop these skills, if a service can offer this. #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @Rehab_Research Work often signifies someone is not "sick" anymore too #OTalk |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @HealthyworkLtd @JenCooperOT @martincrab @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I had an experience on placement where we had a vocational rehab support worker, the OT did assessments and referred on #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @HG1OT @Rehab_Research The specialist section is trying to develop more training opportunities #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work RT @martincrab: @HG1OT @Rehab_Research The specialist section is trying to develop more training opportunities #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research What can be done to change this? How can we inspire a new generation of work focussed OTs? @HG1OT ?@martincrab ?#otalk https://t.co/tqOhr7TETY |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work Although, not sure I’m 100% confident in delivering work related interventions. I seem to take more of a suck it and see approach and google is my friend! V challenging when I’ve got 25-35 year olds with no employment hx or recent quals wanting to get into employment. #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ it depends on your locality but IPS employment support goes hand in hand with OT practice #OTalk |
![]() | Francesca 🏴🇪🇺🌻 (she/ her) @OT_Francesca @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ It was a goal for many patients on my placement in Early Supported Stroke Discharge #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research @HG1OT I think the OT profession goes through waves. We were built on vocational practice historically and I think we are shifting back to seizing the work agenda #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research @OccupationalFox This is fine but goals change over time. If people are not challenged to think work early after injury, they may lose their job and then chance to return. Surely we have a responsibility to prevent job loss?#otalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab Perhaps listing all types of work interventions ots do could help as some individuals dont need vocational rehabilitation but an assessment in the workplace around reasonable adjustments and graduated plan of hours #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_Francesca: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ It was a goal for many patients on my placement in Early Supported Stroke Discharge #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Q3. What would be helpful for you to incorporate work (as an outcome) into your client/patient journey? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Lynne Merrett @ot_lynne @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I work in neuro rehab in the community and have used returning to work as a goal for many of my patients #OTalk |
![]() | amy shirley @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I work across in-pts and out-pts in a major trauma centre I use work as a goal with most of my out-pts(hand therapy) but with hardly any of my in-pts(trauma) it’s not that I don’t consider it, but at that time in their recovery it isn’t top on my patients goal priorities #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work It's the fact that OTs are confident is the real issue that needs to be addressed #OTalk |
![]() | Ed Sum Occupational Therapist🏳️🌈❤🏴 @musedNeuroOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ In the past, adult mental health. Currently, adult neuro out-patients. In the future, for oncology out-patients; also meeting with DWP next week to support a local project to promote the positives of employing workers with disabilities #OTalk #AHPsintoaction |
![]() | Molly Harris @mollharrisOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ On my contemporary mental health placement in supported living, my client set a goal to find voluntary work before focusing on gaining paid work, I worked with him to research opportunities in his local area, identify his skills and complete application forms #Otalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @Rehab_Research @martincrab I think we need to keep spreading the word - to break down barriers between services, give practical skills and examples, utilise patient's powerful voices, get employers involved in the curriculum, incorporate work into pt pathways, make videos and provide resources. #otalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research @OccupationalFox I agree entirely. We know the evidence states that early intervention with work gives better outcomes #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research I work in research. Work is an outcome and a goal in our studies #otalk https://t.co/l05oLAelAN |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @HG1OT: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Work is not a stand alone concept. it's integral to out roles, routines, choices & decisions. It should be incorporated the therapy we practice - integral to health and social care. Work outcomes should form part of the pathways we use and the data we collect #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Rehab_Research: I work in research. Work is an outcome and a goal in our studies #otalk https://t.co/l05oLAelAN |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @mollharrisOT: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ On my contemporary mental health placement in supported living, my client set a goal to find voluntary work before focusing on gaining paid work, I worked with him to research opportunities in his local area, identify his skills and complete application forms #Otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @Rehab_Research Undergraduate VR training is patchy #OTalk |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @Rehab_Research I think it's a difficult one, we have to consider the patient before/after injury or illness, the impact of their job on their health (mental/physical) and whether it's the right decision for them to return to work, don't want to be pushing something not important to pts #OTalk |
![]() | Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab #OTalk I think we need to remember that we can't guarantee that a person will realise their ultimate goal of finding the job of their dreams, but we can always help people to work TOWARDS their goals. In doing so, we may surprise ourselves by how much can be achieved. |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOT_Work: Q3. What would be helpful for you to incorporate work (as an outcome) into your client/patient journey? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I work in community Neuro Rehab. VR makes up about 50% of my caseload #OTalk |
![]() | amy shirley @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Maybe better links with my community counterparts, at an extremely acute stage it seems so far in the future for some patients that it seems unattainable but if the links were better perhaps I’d be more confident in making it a goal from the beginning #OTalk |
![]() | Christin McLernon @cmclOT I work in a school setting, and for my high school students, work is a big goal area for them. I do a lot of collaboration with an amazing SLP @ZajacSLP #OTalk https://t.co/aZOq5TyZsS |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MOHOspark: @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab #OTalk I think we need to remember that we can't guarantee that a person will realise their ultimate goal of finding the job of their dreams, but we can always help people to work TOWARDS their goals. In doing so, we may surprise ourselves by how much can be achieved. |
![]() | Louise Crisp 💫 @louisecrisp5 @Rehab_Research @RCOT_Work Our training very much covers vocational rehabilitation, after all work is deemed a meaningful activity to many I’ve come across it several times in community and within secure unit setting @UoW_OT #OTalk |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ We use work as a goal in Neuro community team. We ask the ‘work’ question in the initial Ax. #OTalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work This is what I’ve been doing, finding my own way to these things via google. We do have AN employment specialist working for the LA but also for our Trust, but there is only one of him and he’s not an OT. #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @amylooeze: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Maybe better links with my community counterparts, at an extremely acute stage it seems so far in the future for some patients that it seems unattainable but if the links were better perhaps I’d be more confident in making it a goal from the beginning #OTalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT RT @MOHOspark: @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab #OTalk I think we need to remember that we can't guarantee that a person will realise their ultimate goal of finding the job of their dreams, but we can always help people to work TOWARDS their goals. In doing so, we may surprise ourselves by how much can be achieved. |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @MOHOspark @Rehab_Research @martincrab yes and in the process it opens up all sorts of opportunities for personal development, exploration and adaptation to new self, self management skills etc so its still a win potentially. #otalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Yesssss! I work in an open rehab unit for males with severe and enduring mental health diagnoses. #OTalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Handout of signposted info could help for them to read later? Such as type of assessment relevant to role eg ergonomic or FCE and services such as Access to Work #otalk |
![]() | Ed Sum Occupational Therapist🏳️🌈❤🏴 @musedNeuroOT @MOHOspark @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab I think @KateHaywardOT has spoken about supporting people to leave work #OTalk |
![]() | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ In most placements I've had there's been some consideration of work - often what the person used to do but with younger clients finding out about their employment is part of the initial assessment and feeds into any goals #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @HG1OT: @martincrab @Rehab_Research post graduate VR training is also very patchy - as are VR services generally! #otalk |
![]() | Christin McLernon @cmclOT More businesses willing to hire individuals with disabilities. My school has some great jobs for the students (coffee cart, running a school store with school gear, recycling, etc) but getting into the community more would be wonderful! #OTalk https://t.co/eKHgkA43cB |
![]() | Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT Talking about work, vocation and education at the earliest opportunity possible! Ensuring a goal in relation to work is discussed. Currently working with a patient trying to re-gain his driving liscence with the bigger picture to become a truck driver again! #OTalk https://t.co/0efSuTrQMG |
![]() | Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research Yes, positive withdrawal is VR too #otalk https://t.co/In9dsr02JK |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @musedNeuroOT: @MOHOspark @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab I think @KateHaywardOT has spoken about supporting people to leave work #OTalk |
![]() | Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ #OTalk sorry late joining this eve gr8t topic... Just home frm travels up north #Inverness |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @cmclOT: More businesses willing to hire individuals with disabilities. My school has some great jobs for the students (coffee cart, running a school store with school gear, recycling, etc) but getting into the community more would be wonderful! #OTalk https://t.co/eKHgkA43cB |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @carina_knightot: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ We use work as a goal in Neuro community team. We ask the ‘work’ question in the initial Ax. #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @cmclOT Very important with progressive conditions #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research @carina_knightot @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Every OT should be asking the work question at initial Assessment @carina_knightot #Otalk |
![]() | Francesca 🏴🇪🇺🌻 (she/ her) @OT_Francesca @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ An awareness of local services is also useful. In community stroke, many patients were 'fit to return to work' but were unable to get there due to not being able to drive. Sitting down with a patient and looking at bus timetables turned out to be very useful #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Q4. Are there particular research questions that would help you frame your practice? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Louise Crisp 💫 @louisecrisp5 RT @Rehab_Research: Unfortunately many therapists shy away from addressing work issues as it’s not seen as core OT business but what can be a more purposeful occupation #OTalk? https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Ed Sum Occupational Therapist🏳️🌈❤🏴 @musedNeuroOT @Rehab_Research I agree - if we are not clear to service users our scope of practice you cannot assume they will know what we can do, have hope they can work and be assertive to communicate that goal to us #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Rehab_Research: Yes, positive withdrawal is VR too #otalk https://t.co/In9dsr02JK |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_Francesca: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ An awareness of local services is also useful. In community stroke, many patients were 'fit to return to work' but were unable to get there due to not being able to drive. Sitting down with a patient and looking at bus timetables turned out to be very useful #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOT_Work: Q4. Are there particular research questions that would help you frame your practice? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot RT @Rehab_Research: Yes, positive withdrawal is VR too #otalk https://t.co/In9dsr02JK |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @Rehab_Research Sometimes moving rocess forward for indiv and employer is required, finding what anilities can transfer to a new role by a transferable skills analysis with a vocational assessment to look at new opportunities #otalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK RT @Rehab_Research: @carina_knightot @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Every OT should be asking the work question at initial Assessment @carina_knightot #Otalk |
![]() | Kim Zajac @ZajacSLP RT @cmclOT: More businesses willing to hire individuals with disabilities. My school has some great jobs for the students (coffee cart, running a school store with school gear, recycling, etc) but getting into the community more would be wonderful! #OTalk https://t.co/eKHgkA43cB |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Does anyone use the AHP fitness to work report form? #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @cmclOT: I work in a school setting, and for my high school students, work is a big goal area for them. I do a lot of collaboration with an amazing SLP @ZajacSLP #OTalk https://t.co/aZOq5TyZsS |
![]() | Molly Harris @mollharrisOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Support from all professionals involved, one client I worked with on placement required a lot of support and encouragement to think optimistically about finding work in the future, as he had been turned down from jobs in the past due to his forensic history #OTalk |
![]() | amy shirley @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Would be great to have some evidence on return to work following major trauma, especially looking at the difference if there was early vocational rehab vs control group #OTalk |
![]() | Trudi Cameron @DrTrudiMCameron RT @Rehab_Research: Unfortunately many therapists shy away from addressing work issues as it’s not seen as core OT business but what can be a more purposeful occupation #OTalk? https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @HG1OT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Yes #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research Build the links @amylooeze. You are ideally placed to identify people with new illnesses/injuries. Without your help they may we’ll be missed! Not everyone gets seen in the community. Few can access VR #otalk https://t.co/QQp7C9sZBX |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @HG1OT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ The AHP Advisory is a good way to get OT recognised by employers and GPS #OTalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Insurance cases ideal usually privately funded v nhs trauma where diff funding route #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @Rehab_Research @OccupationalFox I agree entirely. We know the evidence states that early intervention with work gives better outcomes #OTalk |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I think many goals can be linked to skills required for work. We have the OT skills to complete activity analysis and break tasks down whilst maintaining hope and positivity about work as an outcome #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @amylooeze: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Would be great to have some evidence on return to work following major trauma, especially looking at the difference if there was early vocational rehab vs control group #OTalk |
![]() | Pamela Bennett @pamela1981 @amylooeze @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work As a community occupational therapist, we'd appreciate referrals for patients at an extremely acute stage. It gives us time to organise equipment, assess the environment and in some cases make sure it's the therapist the person knows who sees them after discharge @OTalk_ #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @HG1OT: @Rehab_Research @martincrab I think we need to keep spreading the word - to break down barriers between services, give practical skills and examples, utilise patient's powerful voices, get employers involved in the curriculum, incorporate work into pt pathways, make videos and provide resources. #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work It's the fact that OTs are confident is the real issue that needs to be addressed #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @cmclOT @Rehab_Research @ZajacSLP Collaboration is such an important aspect of voc rehab - collaborating with everyone inside and outside the workplace (if permitted by the client) #otalk |
![]() | Francesca 🏴🇪🇺🌻 (she/ her) @OT_Francesca @HG1OT @Rehab_Research @martincrab I actually have a viva on it on Thursday as part of my MSc so some students are thinking about VR already #OTalk Also the @theRCOT recent publication "getting my life back" highlights the role of OT in mental health recovery and considers work. |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @iFRESHPhD @cmclOT @Rehab_Research @ZajacSLP Absolutely! Working with employers is so important #OTalk |
![]() | Pamela Bennett @pamela1981 @amylooeze @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work Sadly not the reality tho! But we do what we can 👍 #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @iFRESHPhD @cmclOT @Rehab_Research @ZajacSLP Absolutely! Working with employers is so important #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @iFRESHPhD: @cmclOT @Rehab_Research @ZajacSLP Collaboration is such an important aspect of voc rehab - collaborating with everyone inside and outside the workplace (if permitted by the client) #otalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @martincrab @Rehab_Research @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work and confidence can often come from working collaboratively with more experienced OTs and with a wider team #otalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I get referrals from employers where physical rehab finished, rtw and find they have cognitive issues, maybe missed this being picked up and diff situ for individual and employer by this stage #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @iFRESHPhD: @martincrab @Rehab_Research @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work and confidence can often come from working collaboratively with more experienced OTs and with a wider team #otalk |
![]() | Felicity Bowden @Flicibee #OTalk when doing vocational rehab, treatment alone has little impact on work outcomes, you have to work with employers also. |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @HealthyworkLtd @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ That's interesting, we are very cautious with RTW with cognitive problems #OTalk |
![]() | #HelloMyNameIs Carolyn @CeeCeeOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Yes, I work in a community mental health team #OTalk |
![]() | Rachel OT @_rachelOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ #Otalk 🙈 |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot I agree, I think confidence plays a big factor in OTs decisions around exploring work #OTalk https://t.co/yJYgxMcHB4 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Good luck in your viva! #OTalk https://t.co/x2a5dSdR0w |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @carina_knightot Especially for working with HR and employers #OTalk |
![]() | amy shirley @amylooeze @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I agree, for lots of our patients their biggest long term issues are not physical but congnition and anxiety based!! Not always so easy to identify as the physical problems #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research @iFRESHPhD @martincrab @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I am very privileged to work with some amazing OTs who work, live and breathe VR @carina_knightot @iFRESHPhD @JuliePhillipsOT #vocmagic #VRresearch #otalk @RetakeStroke #inspired |
![]() | Pamela Bennett @pamela1981 @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I'm currently researching the use of language in integrated care teams. Within a new culture we must be able to communicate effectively with all team members. It's also important to retain our professional identity and our own occupational language #otalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work Q5. and lastly, any final thoughts? any additional resources you would like to share? #OTalk @OTalk_ |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @martincrab @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ A few slip through net but then with some standardized cog tests may need routing back to nhs services #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @OTalk_: Good luck in your viva! #OTalk https://t.co/x2a5dSdR0w |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot RT @Rehab_Research: @iFRESHPhD @martincrab @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work I am very privileged to work with some amazing OTs who work, live and breathe VR @carina_knightot @iFRESHPhD @JuliePhillipsOT #vocmagic #VRresearch #otalk @RetakeStroke #inspired |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @pamela1981: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I'm currently researching the use of language in integrated care teams. Within a new culture we must be able to communicate effectively with all team members. It's also important to retain our professional identity and our own occupational language #otalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research @iFRESHPhD @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work @carina_knightot @JuliePhillipsOT @RetakeStroke I think part of the problem is access to experts in the field too. It helps immensely working with experienced practitioners #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @HG1OT @Rehab_Research @martincrab You're right - get our collaborators involved in the curriculum - employers, occ health, HR, H&S, Unions - everyone. We can do a lot but we can learn a lot form other perspectives too #otalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @martincrab @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Higher level cogs can be diff to detect by non hcp #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Last question of the evening! #OTalk https://t.co/aN7remdMT8 |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Can I give a plug to the Work Specialist Section webinars? These are a great way for people to upskill for free! #OTalk |
![]() | RCOTSSWork @RCOT_Work RT @martincrab: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Can I give a plug to the Work Specialist Section webinars? These are a great way for people to upskill for free! #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @carina_knightot: I agree, I think confidence plays a big factor in OTs decisions around exploring work #OTalk https://t.co/yJYgxMcHB4 |
![]() | Lynne Merrett @ot_lynne @martincrab @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Do you need to be a member to access these Martin? #OTalk |
![]() | amy shirley @amylooeze @martincrab @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ No issue picking up the cognitive issues, we use a range of standardised and non-standardised tests, it’s more the abundance of goals that the patients identify early on in the rehab stage that can mean that the goal of work tends not to be a consideration at that time #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @Rehab_Research @martincrab @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work @carina_knightot @JuliePhillipsOT @RetakeStroke Its academics such as @Rehab_Research who stretch us to think differently and creatively and to search for the evidence that what we do works... or does it???? #OTalk |
![]() | Rachel OT @_rachelOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ More opportunity to connect with employers and highlight support needs - many of the young adults with LD in my SW role want to work and be independent, but employers don’t always get that it may be a longer journey than usual to get there and lack patience to grade roles #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @amylooeze: @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ I agree, for lots of our patients their biggest long term issues are not physical but congnition and anxiety based!! Not always so easy to identify as the physical problems #OTalk |
![]() | Carina Knight @carina_knightot @martincrab @Rehab_Research @iFRESHPhD @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work @JuliePhillipsOT @RetakeStroke It can feel very lonely if your the only OT doing Voc Rehab in a team....peer support is vital @RCOT_Work @iFRESHPhD @Rehab_Research #OTalk |
![]() | Francesca 🏴🇪🇺🌻 (she/ her) @OT_Francesca @Rehab_Research @HG1OT @martincrab @theRCOT No plans to do a PhD at the moment but I definitely agree with the sentiment about more OT VR research #OTalk |
![]() | Ed Sum Occupational Therapist🏳️🌈❤🏴 @musedNeuroOT @martincrab @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Methinks I should be joining the specialist section! #OTalk |
![]() | Healthywork Ltd @HealthyworkLtd @martincrab @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Lots of free toolkits online and advice for managers and individuals from charities etc #otalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @musedNeuroOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Please Do! #OTalk |
![]() | Participation in Every Day Life Research Group @PIELRes RT @Rehab_Research: This question needs to be asked of OTs in training. Work is core OT business. Vocational Rehabilitation needs to be embedded in undergraduate curriculum #otalk https://t.co/EUt2Ep6cDh |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research @amylooeze @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Hence the dual training. OTs are well placed to assess #otalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @OTalk_ https://t.co/2hZPt2zm8e a brilliant organisation with many resources, some developed in partnership with OTs #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @martincrab: @carina_knightot Especially for working with HR and employers #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research @amylooeze @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ And to treat. In VR you really do need to be genuinely holistic #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD @amylooeze @Rehab_Research @HealthyworkLtd @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Not easy, but we can and that puts us in a valuable position to our potential customers #otalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research @martincrab @carina_knightot do We need an expert mentoring programme to boost post qualification OTs confidence in addressing work issues? #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @martincrab: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Can I give a plug to the Work Specialist Section webinars? These are a great way for people to upskill for free! #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk 22nd May 2018 – The role of Occupational Therapy in compulsive hoarding https://t.co/O2bOCDCL3E |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @Rehab_Research @carina_knightot We were hoping to set one up via the specialist section #OTalk |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @HealthyworkLtd: @martincrab @amylooeze @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Higher level cogs can be diff to detect by non hcp #otalk |
![]() | Pamela Bennett @pamela1981 RT @OTalk_: #OTalk 22nd May 2018 – The role of Occupational Therapy in compulsive hoarding https://t.co/O2bOCDCL3E |
![]() | Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @Rehab_Research people not able 2 /continue /return 2work 4 health stuff support 2manage & cope, though important work not essential 2 life also need rethink society #OTalk make fairer |
![]() | Kate Radford @Rehab_Research RT @carina_knightot: @martincrab @Rehab_Research @iFRESHPhD @Lauren_OT @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work @JuliePhillipsOT @RetakeStroke It can feel very lonely if your the only OT doing Voc Rehab in a team....peer support is vital @RCOT_Work @iFRESHPhD @Rehab_Research #OTalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK the Voc rehab association also has a variety of resources and webinars!! #otalk |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @JenCooperOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ interesting - I was a member but found it really lacking ( a few years ago) so joined other sections / organisations - I know some of the other sections have really improved so I will look into the work section again. #otalk |
![]() | Lauren @Lauren_OT @iFRESHPhD @martincrab @Rehab_Research @JenCooperOT @LouiseCrisp5 @OTalk_ @RCOT_Work Yep but I’m alone! I’m getting there now, it’s just getting started and learning different pathways and services that can help. Vocational stuff I did prev in medium secure totally different to open rehab setting.. #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Thanks @RCOT_Work for hosting this evening's #OTalk and thanks everyone for contributing! Here's the blog for next week's chat with @orlatheot: https://t.co/wGXM77SXeH |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @Rehab_Research Hi Kate - great to tweet with you @ #otalk tonight. I have read some of your work with a lot of interest and hope to spread the message in relation to VR following ABI in a webinar for the VRA this month. Your work has been really valuable to me in practice! |
![]() | Independence Found Ltd @IndepFoundUK @JenCooperOT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Fab - also https://t.co/XTDXvGTd2F #otalk |
![]() | Orla @orlatheot RT @OTalk_: #OTalk 22nd May 2018 – The role of Occupational Therapy in compulsive hoarding https://t.co/O2bOCDCL3E |
![]() | Dr Jain Holmes 💙 @iFRESHPhD RT @martincrab: @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Can I give a plug to the Work Specialist Section webinars? These are a great way for people to upskill for free! #OTalk |
![]() | Martin Morgan @martincrab @iFRESHPhD @JenCooperOT @HG1OT @RCOT_Work @OTalk_ Thanks Jain, we're looking forward to your contributions in the autumn too! #OTalk |

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