#OTalk Transcript
Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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 | #OTalk @OTalk_ Tonights #otalk will be starting shortly hosted by @MulryMary please tweet and let us know you're online, even if lurking! It's @GillyGorry on the account tonight. Please keep your code of ethics and professional conduct in mind and respect the views of others. |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT Hi peeps! #otalk |
 | Gemma P @gemOT18 @OTalk_ @MulryMary @GillyGorry I’ll be lurking & hope to contribute too #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary So you are talking about placements, I presume? #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I’ve never had experience of this before but can see its benefits for students #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ I once was in a placement with 3 OT’s sharing the load. #otalk |
 | Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary Hi everyone :), sorry Mary, what are the 3:1 and 2:1 models? #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @JayneSeagrave: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ First question. #otalk https://t.co/2CvZxYLGqh |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ I think having a variety of perspectives was great. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @GillyGorry @MulryMary Good point! Completely depends on students & their interests in the placement area of work #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ @clairefarrantot @MulryMary @GillyGorry Glad to have you lurking! Enjoy the family visit #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @beckycooper___: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gemOT18: @GillyGorry @MulryMary Good point! Completely depends on students & their interests in the placement area of work #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @beckycooper___ @MulryMary Yes- like in the setting I am in now, it is hard to get more than 1 perspective due to small caseload. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @KimWillisOT Technological is great when it works but all too disheartening 😩when it goes wrong. Catch up with it afterwards I guess?! #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @JayneSeagrave: |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary I recently had a first year student on a 7 week placement. Staffing was not great, so I found it difficult to give the student the full support that I would have liked. The thought of 2:1/3:1 when I think back to my recent experience, seems too much to manage 2 be honest. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ I want to take on more- but I think it would be counterproductive for me take on 2. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Do you find educators are reluctant to take on more than one student? Do they get work place support to do this and keep up with work? #otalk https://t.co/MDockSFu4w |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ And then if there are placements going beyond 1 week- it won’t suit my personal schedule and it will make my other OT staff mad even if I was able. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ Long time no see Jayne! I agree I probably would be resistant as to me it feels so new... would be happy to try it with the right support in my trust. Getting some ideas hopefully from tonight’s #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary Also - the paperwork alone!! Don't get me wrong, I love having students, but it's challenging when there is a risk of not meeting all my red clinical priorities #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ I am not reluctant... just that the caseload I have was not allowing me to. #otalk |
 | Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @OTalk_ Just got back from my graduation, lurking late tonight because I would love to hear more about being an educator #OTalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @otramblings @MulryMary It might be but in my area of work we have difficulties with hot desking, remote working and lack of IT equipment for students. Trying to think how we manage this? #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary @OTalk_ The tricky thing is, every student is different and may need a different approach from the PE. It may work well with the students who just 'get it' but it's the ones who need additional support and guidance. They may lose out with this kind of model #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @otramblings: @MulryMary Also - the paperwork alone!! Don't get me wrong, I love having students, but it's challenging when there is a risk of not meeting all my red clinical priorities #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @clairefarrantot @MulryMary @OTalk_ I think they were cohesive for the most part. But in my setting... I know my working style is a little different from my OTA. So it was a dynamic my students got to see. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @KimWillisOT @OTalk_ I agree this is more common for educators to share a student rather than one educator with 2 or more students #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary I think everyone has to be on the same page. If not, then the students will have a confusing experience. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Question 2: #otalk https://t.co/eOffUQ4hSx |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of desk space & community working ie needing to drive to visits. Benefits would be trying a new way of working, students supporting each other #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @OTalk_ For me, I want to, but my personal schedule made it difficult to take a student beyond a week! #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gemOT18: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of desk space & community working ie needing to drive to visits. Benefits would be trying a new way of working, students supporting each other #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @gemOT18: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of desk space & community working ie needing to drive to visits. Benefits would be trying a new way of working, students supporting each other #OTalk |
| Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @MulryMary I've never personally experienced these models but had peers who found 2:1 role emerging placements worked well because of the peer support #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @clairefarrantot: |
| Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @MulryMary I would say the challenges would be the possibility of additional pressure placed on the educator for having multiple students #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @otramblings @OTalk_ @MulryMary And in my setting, it does hamstrung my building manager’s abilities to staff people for OT help. After all, she realize it is not fair for the student to bounce around at moments’ notice. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Lucygordon83: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @gemOT18 @MulryMary In my setting, it will be good for OT’s to bounce ideas around with one another whenever they have a chance to meet. #otalk |
| Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @JayneSeagrave @CommunityLD_OT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Ive had multiple educators on placement due to part time working hours etc, I've felt it helped learning from two viewpoints :) #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Lucygordon83: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ For me this probably replicates the work place. Different people have different needs but we have to find a way to work together. Could be a challenge if both students have issues and only one educator, possibly more from the educators perspective? #otalk https://t.co/mES9VxmvxB |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @beckycooper___: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Amie_OT: @MulryMary I would say the challenges would be the possibility of additional pressure placed on the educator for having multiple students #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Amie_OT: @MulryMary I've never personally experienced these models but had peers who found 2:1 role emerging placements worked well because of the peer support #OTalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I remember being a newly qualified OT and gave a lift to a student and we had lots of informal supervision’s which helped both of us. But it was an informal arrangement which maybe was more comfortable #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OTalk_: For me this probably replicates the work place. Different people have different needs but we have to find a way to work together. Could be a challenge if both students have issues and only one educator, possibly more from the educators perspective? #otalk https://t.co/mES9VxmvxB |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gemOT18: @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I remember being a newly qualified OT and gave a lift to a student and we had lots of informal supervision’s which helped both of us. But it was an informal arrangement which maybe was more comfortable #OTalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @JayneSeagrave @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary Well that educator is a hero! #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary Pros: peer support, addresses the issue of too many students and not enough placements. Cons: paperwork time, supervision time (students will still need separate times to address their own needs), Students will also need to be shadowed to carry out Ax/interv individually #otalk |
| Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary On placements i always valued working with the newly qualified band 5 occupational therapists as i learnt so much from them and it felt less daunting at times than talking to my educator #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @otramblings: @MulryMary Pros: peer support, addresses the issue of too many students and not enough placements. Cons: @MulryMary Pros: peer support, addresses the issue of too many students and not enough placements. Cons: paperwork time, supervision time (students will still need separate times to address their own needs), Students will also need to be shadowed to carry out Ax/interv individually #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @beckycooper___: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_KateT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @otramblings @MulryMary In my setting, we actually had an article that having students doesn’t have too much impact on overall productivity. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Amie_OT: @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary On placements i always valued working with the newly qualified band 5 occupational therapists as i learnt so much from them and it felt less daunting at times than talking to my educator #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT https://t.co/SSvwHIifXM here is the AJOT article on placement students and productivity. #otalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @BillWongOT @MulryMary Sorry to sound so negative but having students is a lot of work. I like to be person centred and I like to get to know my students and support as they need. I find it would be so difficult to do this with 2:1/3:1 models. #OTalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @otramblings @MulryMary Also I am the only OT in an MDT so plenty of opportunity for finding out about other professions for students... I wonder in a team with more OTs if having more students is easier? #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @otramblings @MulryMary You should write a comment to the article I just shared. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary @otramblings And I know for me, I just planned my first placement student’s experience in 20-30 minutes only! #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @SaraOT1980: |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @BillWongOT @MulryMary Is it on your twitter page? I missed it! Would love to read!! #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @otramblings @MulryMary Check the hashtag. I just shared it after your reply. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @mollharrisOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @mollharrisOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ Well- all I had to go on when planning for my student was my past experiences. I think such were good foundations to build from too. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @JoyceInYork @TheRetreatYork Our placement co-ordinator does the same in our trust which is v helpful. Also organises other training & peer support #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @mollharrisOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @clairefarrantot @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @MulryMary I felt the same way. But I have to convince myself that I need to be braver... especially since that there is an immense shortage for placements. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @beckycooper___: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @beckycooper___ @MulryMary @OTalk_ Since I go to so many conferences, my odds of meeting academic placement educators are very high. So I use those opportunities to debrief when I see them. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ @MulryMary I think clear expectations, boundaries and guidance for students and educators would be essential. Also students/ educators with additional needs would need a more bespoke approach? #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Last 10 minutes or so for #otalk @MulryMary |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 students #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @beckycooper___ @MulryMary @OTalk_ And our profession is so small, sometimes I work with academic placement educators on multiple levels- not just placements, but also association work. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @otramblings: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 students #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @JayneSeagrave @MulryMary @OTalk_ In the US, we have such options. But sometimes taking a day off just to attend such workshops might not be feasible. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @otramblings: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 students #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Lucygordon83: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT For me, I email my student as soon as I receive his/her contact info. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Good question. I would, but I would want support from the Uni and within my organisation to ensure a good experience all round. #otalk https://t.co/LFYDw7dYW7 |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ If I could, I would. #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT I agree contact beforehand is so important, even a phone call or email is good if a visit isn’t possible #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @otramblings @MulryMary @OTalk_ I want to... but sometimes that is hard if student lives a good ways away from me. So email/phone call before the placement will have to do. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT Amongst the many hats I am also wearing... lol! #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @MulryMary @OTalk_ I have to be honest I’m not sure I would be able to have students of different levels of their training- too many variables! But students if same level of training is more feasible #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Wowzers that hour went so fast! Don't worry if continue to chat, we won't get the transcript until tomorrow. Great chat @MulryMary . #otalk |
| Gemma P @gemOT18 @OTalk_ @MulryMary This chat has encouraged me to keep an open mind and further the future of practice placements #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary @OTalk_ I would consider supporting students of various levels - I agree with Jayne. Benefits for final/2nd year would be through concept of learning better through teaching and benefit for 1st year would be 'less scary' learning/asking qus from student rather than PE. #otalk |
 | Dawn Scull 💙🕷🇪🇺🌻🇺🇦 (she/her) @DawnScull @mollharrisOT @OTalk_ @JoyceInYork Agree absolutely #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @MulryMary Thanks for hosting! Really useful topic and has definitely challenged my views for the better! #OTalk |
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