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OTalk @OTalk_
Welcome to November’s #Otalk Research. Tonight we are joined by @lezeki to discuss apps and smart technology in research. @NikkiDanielsOT on the @OTalk_ account
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Looking forward to hearing about peoples experiences and thoughts on apps in research at #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Happy #otweek2018 everyone! 😁👏💥🙌 #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Looking forward to hearing about peoples thoughts and experiences re apps in OT research at #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
Happy Tuesday & Happy 2nd day of #OTWeeek2018 .. here for #otalk 💚 https://t.co/HJ1WEZJMGt
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @BillWongOT: Happy #otweek2018 everyone! 😁👏💥🙌 #OTalk
Mark @markstudentOT
@lezeki what luck! It's #otweek2018 and you're on #OTalk!
OTalk @OTalk_
So who is joining us this evening? Let’s start off with some hellos before we kick off with question 1 #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @kerri_schOT: Happy Tuesday & Happy 2nd day of #OTWeeek2018 .. here for #otalk 💚 https://t.co/HJ1WEZJMGt
Mark @markstudentOT
#OTalk https://t.co/zyTdO6IEjr
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@OTalk_ I haven't done an #OTalk in over a year now, just logged on randomly not realising it was Tuesday 8pm--perfect timing!!
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Hi everyone great that #Otalk research fall in #OTWeek2018
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
Hello everyone #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Ok time to kick off. Over to @lezeki for question 1. Don’t forget the hashtag folks #Otalk
Ellen 👩🏻‍🎓💚 @OTEllenUK
@OTalk_ Hello 👋 #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
First question for #Otalk . What roles do you think apps and smart technology can play in occupational therapy research?
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
I'm here! Rotational Band 5 #OT, currently with elders and moving to acute mental health next week. I wrote my masters dissertation on app use, so really excited to participate in tonight's talk. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@kerri_schOT I am actually doing some number crunching about how I will make #rcot2019 next year. Can’t believe it is 7 months away. #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
great to hear about your research so far on #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
So, question 1. What are your thoughts? #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki They definitely have abilities to track data. Such abilities can not only show the progress patients are making... but also overall effectiveness of interventions. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@RebeccaCrouch Great news, looking forward to hearing about your experiences #Otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Hi everyone, I’m here too looking forward to the discussion #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@OTalk_ Q1 #otalk Experience Sampling Methods... ?
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
RT @OTalk_: So, question 1. What are your thoughts? #Otalk https://t.co/JN8b5ydiRa
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@lezeki So much- A way to disseminate research for public consumption, seeking public involvement in research design, research participation and facilitated discussion to use as a support to traditional face to face intervention such as use of video conferencing tech in practice #OTalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@lezeki #OTalk perhaps the use of assistive apps like PECS to help children communicate in qualitative research studies
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
Loads! Recording data, including: - audio (recorded interviews and memos) - text (thoughts and reflections) - visual (photos). #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen rather than relying on recall or simulation #Otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @RebeccaCrouch: Loads! Recording data, including: - audio (recorded interviews and memos) - text (thoughts and reflections) - visual (ph…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki Keyboarding is a great example because it is quantifiable. #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
and a way to engage people in research from all over the uk #otalk. Makes research more accessible
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@lezeki I think apps could be really useful in getting people involved in participating in research.. quick click on an app can be more appealing then a big long web page #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
PECS ???? @AmyStringerOT sounds interesting but not sure what it is #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RebeccaCrouch: Loads! Recording data, including: - audio (recorded interviews and memos) - text (thoughts and reflections) - visual (ph…
OTalk @OTalk_
Lots of potential uses #otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@lezeki apps and smart technology as communicative devices to capture the perspectives of those whose voices aren't always heard #OTalk
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@BillWongOT @lezeki True with the added benefit of technological prompts and convenience for participants to engage in the programme, data logging or intervention even with programmed reminders and push notifications. Adds ownership of care or participation back to the individual #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @lezeki: and a way to engage people in research from all over the uk #otalk. Makes research more accessible https://t.co/cVdcoYnVT7
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: @lezeki apps and smart technology as communicative devices to capture the perspectives of those whose voices aren't alwa…
OTalk @OTalk_
@LynneGoodacre @AmyStringerOT Would like to hear more about this! Sounds interesting #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
potential to revolutionise healthcare #otalk
Paul Graham @PaulGrahamOT
RT @OTalk_: So, question 1. What are your thoughts? #Otalk https://t.co/JN8b5ydiRa
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: @BillWongOT @lezeki True with the added benefit of technological prompts and convenience for participants to engage in the pr…
Mark @markstudentOT
#OTalk I use an Amazon Alexa Show with an older family member.... it enables her to see what is not easily explained verbally. Inclusivity.
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@LynneGoodacre Ohh sorry! Picture exchange communication! They allow non verbal children to select pictures to communicate rather than words 👍 #OTalk
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@lezeki Definitely - well if we go down the route of engagement with technology and apps as often being a meaningful occupation to many in itself we go full circle and definitely the remit of OT #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
So starting to think about research the benefits of apps as interventions? #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: @LynneGoodacre Ohh sorry! Picture exchange communication! They allow non verbal children to select pictures to communica…
Katie Crowfoot @katie_crowfoot
#otalk the app could be linked with a patients individual timetable where patients could record whether they attended to the routine with before and after mood rating scales. Data could then be populated to ascertain benefits
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @OTalk_: @LynneGoodacre @AmyStringerOT Would like to hear more about this! Sounds interesting #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki Or- can Goniometer apps replace the such things altogether. #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
I would love to replace goniometers! #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @lezeki: So starting to think about research the benefits of apps as interventions? #otalk https://t.co/edg4NKD21R
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @markstudentOT: #OTalk I use an Amazon Alexa Show with an older family member.... it enables her to see what is not easily explained ver…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
lovely research at @MOReS_OBU collating experiences of rehab after TBI with a purpose built app.#OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I’ve never done this but I’m thinking if the intervention is being delivered by different people in different places it removes error as everything is pretty standardised? #OTalk
Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo
#UCLanOT @UCLanOT it's time to #OTalk !!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @lezeki: lovely research at @MOReS_OBU collating experiences of rehab after TBI with a purpose built app.#OTalk https://t.co/UlLdySIhke
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@lezeki There are apps being developed as part of research projects and interventions in the NICU. From a brief lit review, there are also a number of apps being created to allow access to info that the general public has - in one case child development but for preterm infants #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
So many great ideas here at #otalk.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: @lezeki There are apps being developed as part of research projects and interventions in the NICU. From a brief lit review, t…
OTalk @OTalk_
#otalk We've definitely uncovered lots of uses for smart technology in research. Learning lots tonight!
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Sorry but again we not all be sure what TBI is #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
if geographical location matters, link to the gps function #otalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
Loads. I interviewed 7 OTs for my research across Community & Inpatient Neurological, Vocational, Paediatric & Adult Social Care settings. They used a variety of apps, including in-built apps & paid-for apps. The apps were valuable tools to support practice & intervention #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
sorry traumatic brain injury . #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LynneGoodacre In the US- we call it traumatic brain injury. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RebeccaCrouch: Loads. I interviewed 7 OTs for my research across Community & Inpatient Neurological, Vocational, Paediatric & Adult Soc…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Might be some overlap but here is Qu 2 #Otalk. What do you think the benefits are of using apps and smart tech in occupational therapy research?
OTalk @OTalk_
So, we covered lots in question 1; Here's question 2 #Otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
There was a great project in rheumatology using an app to get people to collecting data on the relationship between pain & the weather each day #Otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@RebeccaCrouch Would love to hear more about what kinds of apps OTs were using across those settings! :) great work #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@katie_crowfoot this is such a good idea! i work on a neuro rehab unit and each patient has a timetable & we often rate their mood/relaxation before & after sessions .. but it’s all paper based at the moment #otalk
Karen Scorer @KarenScorerOT
RT @OTalk_: #otalk We've definitely uncovered lots of uses for smart technology in research. Learning lots tonight!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki If it is stored in the app, then it will be less likely to have recording error. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @katie_crowfoot: #otalk the app could be linked with a patients individual timetable where patients could record whether they attended t…
OTalk @OTalk_
Why should we use apps in research? What are the benefits? Asks @lezeki #Otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Yes its those daily situational factors that apps have potential to capture #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@lezeki We have done research using apps for passively monitoring geolocation to measure lifespace (geographic space in which we live and conduct activities) #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Great way to collect data! #Otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
#OTalk apps and technology can make processes much more efficient-saves time and money!
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@lezeki All for it if it helps service users or staff! However tech is not for everyone #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Will be great to hear about what is being used #Otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: @RebeccaCrouch Would love to hear more about what kinds of apps OTs were using across those settings! :) great work #OTa
Katie Crowfoot @katie_crowfoot
#otalk absolutely @kerri_schOT we do to @LPTnhs ... wouldn't it be wonderful to have something that would really support our patients but equally give us some quality data to work with to justify the work we do on a daily basis.
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@lezeki Also actively entering participation through time use diaries and experience sampling surveys #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
A lot of people are now v familiar with using apps/ smart technologies so easy for people to use #Otalk and not necessarily requiring a lot of new costly equipment
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
sounds really interesting. I want to jump to ethics but will get to that in a later question! #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @jacki_liddle: @lezeki We have done research using apps for passively monitoring geolocation to measure lifespace (geographic space in w…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Might it be about accessibility, standardisation of data collection and research processes, and real time data collection? Probably also something about the facility for inbuilt prompts, recognising how difficult it can be sometimes with research tools such as diaries #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Definitely a benefit #Otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
#OTalk If the apps are user friendly and accommodative for people of all ages, stages and abilities, it makes for more inclusive research, which is the aim of the game!
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@lezeki Need to consider privacy/data security/ easy ways to opt out/ accessibility and making sure people can access their own data #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: A lot of people are now v familiar with using apps/ smart technologies so easy for people to use #Otalk and not necessar…
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@caralawrence @lezeki This is my concern. I’m very pro-tech and want to use it in my own research but also concerned about people who may not have access to devices or may choose not to or it isn’t meaningful to them. Is it a certain demographic we would be capturing for participation #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@LynneGoodacre Also lots of people are never without there phone which helps if it’s being used as memory aid #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
really important point to remember inclusivity of resesarch methods #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Lots of potential benefits here!#Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jacki_liddle: @lezeki Also actively entering participation through time use diaries and experience sampling surveys #otalk
Georgie @Georgie82712446
RT @preston_jenny: Might it be about accessibility, standardisation of data collection and research processes, and real time data collectio…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk apps and technology can make processes much more efficient-saves time and money!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk If the apps are user friendly and accommodative for people of all ages, stages and abilities, it makes for more i…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jacki_liddle: @lezeki Need to consider privacy/data security/ easy ways to opt out/ accessibility and making sure people can access the…
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@lezeki it keeps all the data together and helps with the NHS push towards being paperless! #Otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@AmyStringerOT Apps often have a free trial or are free which helps people know if it is useful! #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I’m wondering if this is becoming less the case now? #Otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @BillWongOT: @lezeki If it is stored in the app, then it will be less likely to have recording error. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk If the apps are user friendly and accommodative for people of all ages, stages and abilities, it makes for more i…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @caralawrence: @AmyStringerOT Apps often have a free trial or are free which helps people know if it is useful! #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
I agree, although the demographic is changing #OTalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@katie_crowfoot @kerri_schOT @LPTnhs I really like this! Through incorporating the use of apps into what we already do in clinical practice, it can help facilitate the link from practice to research more efficiently #OTalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
If you are using one specific device (e.g a phone or tablet), your research/data could all be in one place, whether its recording data, disseminating information or tracking data. The danger is separating yourself from your work/maintaining #occupationalbalance #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Good point. Potentially some limitations to overcome too? Think we might be exploring these further in our next question! #Otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@katie_crowfoot @LPTnhs I think for where I work as well, pt’s are familiar with ipads etc as they are often used as part of therapy so it would link in nicely #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: @katie_crowfoot @kerri_schOT @LPTnhs I really like this! Through incorporating the use of apps into what we already do i…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RebeccaCrouch: If you are using one specific device (e.g a phone or tablet), your research/data could all be in one place, whether its…
Chloe Hague 🌻 @ChloeHagueOT
@lezeki Environmentally friendly as less paperwork and easier to collect real time data #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@LynneGoodacre Can be less stigmatised that using “medical” equipment especially during community lives #OTalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@jacki_liddle @lezeki Another key aspect is considering how we can encourage routine use of these apps as tools, having them is one thing, but using them daily is another ballgame! Great potential though, love it :) #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Working smarter! #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@OT_Child @lezeki In a trial I helped recruit for they could provide a computer for the trial for computer memory training! But this then might mean they need training how to use it first #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@RebeccaCrouch And another danger is that if you misplace it in a public place, you never know about where the data will end up. Heard about such instances when researchers left USB drives in public places. #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Its great to see so many different perspectives on apps here at #Otalk . Definitely making me think!
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Does it make analysis easier, ie less inputting of data into analysis software, I’m not sure? #Otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@RebeccaCrouch I have recently got mind view software which I feel would be helpful for recording thoughts #otalk
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@LynneGoodacre I agree and the benefits outweigh the negatives. It may be the case that ideally a research team has central devices that would allow pp to engage if they were unable to gain access to tech for whatever reason (thinking of some vulnerable groups) to reduce the issue #OTalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@caralawrence Sounds great. Is that on your phone? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: @LynneGoodacre I agree and the benefits outweigh the negatives. It may be the case that ideally a research team has central d…
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@OT_Child @caralawrence @lezeki In our research we ended up providing devices to enable access for all willing (also support for use and designed with input from end users). Also meant we could provide data and not use up battery life or cause costs for participants #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@RebeccaCrouch @BillWongOT such a good point.. could be hard to keep work at work if it’s in your pocket! #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@RebeccaCrouch I think you can get it on phone but I have it on my laptop! It’s a mind map but then can turn into a word document! #otalk
Lanelle Jansen van Vuuren @Lanellejvv
Joining my first #OTalk slightly late but excited to find out more about apps in research! I’ve done some research in the past into apps in cognitive intervention and treatment but haven’t really considered their place in research!
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
information governance breeches! #otalk
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
@lezeki It can be of great use when it comes to a public health promotion model. When particularly looking at prevention ! A great example is the Ulcer Prevention App developed at USC . Principal investigator: Jesús Díaz #OTalk https://t.co/vLKb9G3KOu
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Probably have lots of data points if collecting through the day. Can you too many data points ? #Otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I am also thinking of last months #Otalk research on photo elicitation, we all carry cameras around with us now so this kind of method becomes more accessible
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Hurya_Ahmad: @lezeki It can be of great use when it comes to a public health promotion model. When particularly looking at prevention !…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lanellejvv: Joining my first #OTalk slightly late but excited to find out more about apps in research! I’ve done some research in the p…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jacki_liddle: @OT_Child @caralawrence @lezeki In our research we ended up providing devices to enable access for all willing (also supp…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Starting to answer Qu 3 #Otalk. What do you consider the barriers or risks of using apps and smart tech in research?
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
@lezeki It provides an inclusive environment , where adaptations and modifications can be easily tailored for the user. It also opens up the door for engaging young adults into research #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
#otalk on apps in research @OTBeth131
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@AmyStringerOT Thanks Amy. All kinds of apps were being used for rehabilitation, compensatory strategies & to support communication. #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @lezeki: Starting to answer Qu 3 #Otalk. What do you consider the barriers or risks of using apps and smart tech in research?
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@kerri_schOT I had an interesting conversation with our IT Dept re use of work issued iPhone for recording research interviews as apparently that's not what it was provided for! #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki What if the devices are stolen? Sometimes that’s the risk when conducting such research in rough neighborhoods. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Already some risks identified. Any other thoughts? Here's Q3. #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lezeki And in this day and age... what if the apps are hacked/corrupted by hackers? #otalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@AmyStringerOT If your interested in reading more about apps being used in practice I recommend these: - Buckle C (2016) Keeping up with technology. OTnews, October, 24 (10) - Erickson K (2017) App-based mobile devices in the occupational therapy process. OT Practice, September, 22 (17) #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@lezeki People not knowing how things work and dropping out! #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@lezeki Surely this comes down to the purpose of the research and what is actually being collected. Just because it is easier to collect data does not mean that we should collect it, this must be dependent on the research question and the methodology #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
It's a minefield understanding IT perspectives #Otalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @POPPED_Project: Systematic review of apps for mood monitoring by the fab ⁦@m_dubad#otalk @otalk https://t.co/9OZvPHxHmj
OTalk @OTalk_
Some post chat reading! Thanks @RebeccaCrouch #Otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
#OTalk knowing that, for instance, a questionnaire can be done virtually on an app whenever suits the participant can make it a lot easier to procrastinate completion vs in-person you have an allocated time slot to complete and submit #OTalk
Chloe Hague 🌻 @ChloeHagueOT
@OTalk_ Not everyone is keen on using technology or knows how to use it. In research this may contribute towards inaccurate results #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk knowing that, for instance, a questionnaire can be done virtually on an app whenever suits the participant can ma…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @preston_jenny: @lezeki Surely this comes down to the purpose of the research and what is actually being collected. Just because it is…
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@preston_jenny @kerri_schOT We have also been told we are not to show apps on our iPhone that has been provided by work #otalk #frustrating
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@lezeki In general my attitude towards any kind of data-collecting tech is that the technology itself is great but we should be wary about who's doing the collection - in terms of research I would just be careful about using apps developed by any for-profit companies #OTalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
RT @RebeccaCrouch: @AmyStringerOT If your interested in reading more about apps being used in practice I recommend these: - Buckle C (2016…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @ChloeHagueOT: @OTalk_ Not everyone is keen on using technology or knows how to use it. In research this may contribute towards inaccura…
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
Depending on the study and app design, missing all the latent information and cues that can be incredibly informative and the ability to be reactive but this is true of many research methods and the qualitative vs quantitative debate so not specific to app usage #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@ChloeHagueOT @OTalk_ And another one- depending on the population research, will be language barrier. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @ChloeHagueOT: @OTalk_ Not everyone is keen on using technology or knows how to use it. In research this may contribute towards inaccura…
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@OTalk_ My pleasure. Hope it's not too out of date. My research project was completed last year. I'm sure (hope) there's been loads of great stuff published since! #OTalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@RebeccaCrouch Amazing!! Thanks so much for the helpful signposting #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Yes but it is easy to be seduced by all the potential data that is relevant to the research but just isn't manageable. Especially when starting out in research #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: @lezeki In general my attitude towards any kind of data-collecting tech is that the technology itself is great but we sho…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@caralawrence @kerri_schOT Glad its not just me 😀 #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @caralawrence: @preston_jenny @kerri_schOT We have also been told we are not to show apps on our iPhone that has been provided by work #…
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@AmyStringerOT My pleasure. Let me know if you have any difficulty finding them. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: Depending on the study and app design, missing all the latent information and cues that can be incredibly informative and the…
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
Also same issue as any online or remote research - difficulty ensuring that it is the actual participant themselves inputting the information or engaging #OTalk
Katie Crowfoot @katie_crowfoot
Would this take away the person centred approach and clinical reasoning we have as #OccupationalTherapists?? There is something about the basic responses we get and how we use our skills to explore the responses in greater details #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: Also same issue as any online or remote research - difficulty ensuring that it is the actual participant themselves inputting…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
This is a difficult one because lots of apps are developed in collaboration with for profit companies as we need their skills and expertise. It would be hard to do this without their input and collaboration #OTalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@OT_Child could be same with postal surveys though #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @katie_crowfoot: Would this take away the person centred approach and clinical reasoning we have as #OccupationalTherapists?? There is s…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
We need to understand the theory and evidence base supporting any app we use. As well as think about the quality of the data collected #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: This is a difficult one because lots of apps are developed in collaboration with for profit companies as we need their s…
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@OT_Child This has been our experience - that we need to find ways (perhaps also app based?) to supplement passively collected data to check for meaning - our discussion in relation to lifespace here: https://t.co/7eR6TQB5B2 #Otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@lezeki True @lezeki but that is part of the research training isn't it #OTalk
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@lezeki Helps collaboration between patients and clinicians #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LynneGoodacre True- unless a university has the means to develop their apps internally through multidisciplinary collaboration. #otalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@katie_crowfoot when you don't want the researcher to influence the data it would help. less if you are using social constructive philosophy to interview though #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @POPPED_Project: @katie_crowfoot when you don't want the researcher to influence the data it would help. less if you are using social co…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RobynStiger: @lezeki Helps collaboration between patients and clinicians #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@katie_crowfoot I can see the pros of both! I know myself working etc would more likely fill in a survey online than meet with someone. Therefore may be useful in research and can imagine some clinical settings. But agree the need for person centred approach #otalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@colourful_ot @lezeki I think it is important that OTs develop technology literacy so we understand how technology we use and recommend works- where the data goes and who owns it. For eg smart speakers, speech to text etc. We need to explain well enough that informed consent possible #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Touched on this earlier. Qu 4 #Otalk . What ethical considerations do we need to be aware of and overcome to use this tech in research?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @caralawrence: @katie_crowfoot I can see the pros of both! I know myself working etc would more likely fill in a survey online than meet…
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@katie_crowfoot Definitely! Think it depends on the type of research and the question-whether it's qualitative or quantitative. Though comprehensive understanding of clients experiences is what I value too as an OT and researcher :) #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki We need in-services, or placement students to bring in such new knowledge in certain settings. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Can you believe we are hurtling towards the last 10 mins. Here is Q4. Ethics!! #Otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Maybe but I just think we need to overcome this often negative bias towards for profit companies. it does not serve us well and is opposed to all the focus on collaboration between health, academia and industry #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Absolutely. I have been learning from fellow researchers but also from colleagues within the app developer world. It can be a minefield #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Can you explain this a little further please @RobynStiger, I'm on the fence with this one so keen to hear your perspective, thank you #OTalk
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
@lezeki The risk of increased confounding variables comes to mind. Since the user will be let’s say in their home environment or away from the research setting. Some variables, may not be accounted for, can arise and interfere with the data results. #OTalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@katie_crowfoot Yes, your right. However, what if it was in another context? e.g. your using a app to disseminate and collect data from a questionnaire for practicing #occupationaltherapists? #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@colourful_ot @lezeki Developers can focus on what is possible rather than what is necessarily ethical - co-design can help getting people to consider. We also worked on some broad guidelines of considering ethics with smartphone based approaches: https://t.co/pLKaEF29vg #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@BillWongOT @jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki And refreshers its ok to be a novice in an area that you are not aware of yet #otalk
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@lezeki Much cooler so can aid adhereance in some of the younger groups. However many older people love apps and smart phones. My 93 year old grandad is a whizz with his phone!! 😂 #Otalk
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @jacki_liddle: @colourful_ot @lezeki Developers can focus on what is possible rather than what is necessarily ethical - co-design can he…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Agree but can also reduce inter/ intra observer error, effects of environments etc #Otalk so swings and roundabouts
Izzie LR @OTizzie
Could data protection ever be a problem? Depending on the device used if collecting data for multiple patients within a healthcare setting #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@Hurya_Ahmad @lezeki Home environments could also mean the findings are MORE valid for considering everyday lives than the clinical/research environment though #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Great link . thank you #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RobynStiger: @lezeki Much cooler so can aid adhereance in some of the younger groups. However many older people love apps and smart pho…
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@lezeki Agreed! A lot of thought needs to go into the technology your using, either for your self or for your patients. There is potentially a lot of risk if you pick the wrong app! #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Some more reading for later! Thanks @jacki_liddle #Otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@lezeki information governance issues, getting informed consent from people using the app etc, making sure service users understand how to use apps #otalk
OT Child (Kat Carruthers) @OT_Child
@lezeki Depending on the method for comparison e.g. a semi structured interview - if the participant becomes affected you can pause, give reassurance and in some cases terminate the research if it is causing distress. It may be harder to monitor wellbeing of pp and duty of care #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@OTalk_ Can people access it? We have discussed earlier that hardware could be loaned #otalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Actually keeping an app going with the changes to operating systems etc takes money/time in an ongoing way and this often doesn't fit with how research is funded. so this also a consideration #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @kerri_schOT: @lezeki information governance issues, getting informed consent from people using the app etc, making sure service users u…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_Child: @lezeki Depending on the method for comparison e.g. a semi structured interview - if the participant becomes affected you can…
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
#OTalk once data is collected ensuring our devices and the apps/logins themselves have adequate password protection. If unsure if something is secure checking with an IT person who can advise.
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Absolutely especially with different operating systems #Otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Final question on #Otalk . How can we improve or advance the use of apps and tech in occupational therapy research?
OTalk @OTalk_
Practical as well as ethical considerations #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jacki_liddle: @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Actually keeping an app going with the changes to operating systems etc takes money/time in an…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk once data is collected ensuring our devices and the apps/logins themselves have adequate password protection. If…
OTalk @OTalk_
Here go with our last question of night #Otalk What do we need to do to advance this practice in OT Research?
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @lezeki: Final question on #Otalk . How can we improve or advance the use of apps and tech in occupational therapy research?
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@preston_jenny E.g There is a big trial in CF looking at drug adherence. It’s helped improve the adherence of nebs massively because the patients get feedback and incentives and they know the MDT can see what they are up to. #otalk plenty of examples of this with exercise apps too
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@lezeki collaboration - cant know everything! #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
#otalk In to our last 5 minutes of tonight chat. It's been a fast one tonight!
CGoulden @CGoulden93
@RebeccaCrouch @AmyStringerOT Brilliant! It has been great to look over this discussion, I haven't much input as I am yet to go on placement but this is something I will definitely keep in mind for the future! Thank you for providing the information. #OTalk #Mscstudent #occupationaltherapy
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki There are some OT teams who are, however, you have to remember app use in practice is still very new territory. This literature is in it's infancy. If you're interested about this, I recommended some reading earlier. I tag you in it. #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Yes and we need to be clear on exactly what data the phone/app is collecting. #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Because people are so keen to make apps - but no infrastructure to keep supporting it - have heard it likened to the "olden days" ;) trend for CD-ROMs which are now unusable! Important to also make information accessible in other forms (including low and no tech!) #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@lezeki Poor connections in the rural world! #otalk #whatis4g and poor broadband
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
#OTalk learning from other allied health professions who have also incorporated app use into their professions research base ... Learn from physio research, nursing research, psychology research ect. ..!
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
You’re doing a great job by leading this discussion @lezeki the importance of people using apps and tech sharing their experiences,publishing research and presenting not just data but methodological papers #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any final thoughts on what next? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @CGoulden93: @RebeccaCrouch @AmyStringerOT Brilliant! It has been great to look over this discussion, I haven't much input as I am yet t…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Definitely. I struggle with that as an OT researcher - because we bridge so may different areas of knowledge. #Otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: You’re doing a great job by leading this discussion @lezeki the importance of people using apps and tech sharing their e…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @AmyStringerOT: #OTalk learning from other allied health professions who have also incorporated app use into their professions research…
Kirsty @kirstyOT
RT @hooper_ek: During #OTweek2018 why not join @lezeki and the #OTalk Research team this Tuesday evening 8-9 pm. The topic this month is Ap…
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Definately. I struggle with that as an OT researcher because we bridge so many areas of knowledge. #OTalk
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
@jacki_liddle @lezeki Great point Jacki !! Definitely food for thought. Balancing all these research/statistical considerations within a home environment is #GOALS #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@CGoulden93 @RebeccaCrouch @AmyStringerOT Glad you found it useful! #Otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thank you @RobynStiger, that's helpful though I'm not sure that I would describe this as collaboration as it seems to be more to do with monitoring and adherence. Interesting #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Thanks - I do work/research in this field too. But I also see lots of OTs recommending or using technology that they do not realise is always "listening" or that sends data to overseas locations and is owned by a company. #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
I would definitely echo that @caralawrence #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Clients may be happy with this - as often this technology can be very usable and supported - but they need to be informed so they can consider the trade off and make an informed decision #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Well folks, that's 9pm and the end of tonight's chat. Please do keep the communication going - sounds like we have a lot to take forward. A very informative and critical discussion #otalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki This is worrying. It's why picking the right app is so important ~ One that's safe & reliable & made by trusted developers. #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
Have to head off to work now - but will check in on #OTalk later! Very interesting topic
OTalk @OTalk_
Thank you very much to tonight's host @lezeki for leading a very informative and fast moving discussion #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Thanks v much @lezeki for a great talk and also @NikkiDanielsOT for keeping us on track #Otalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@OTalk_ Gosh! An hour is not long enough to answer all these great questions! #OTalk
حورية السلطان @Hurya_Ahmad
@LynneGoodacre I totally agree. Inter/intra observer errors will for sure reduce !! Definitely swings and roundabout, Lynne ! #OTalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Thanks to everyone for their tweets. Really interesting ideas . Great to connect! #OTalk
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @preston_jenny: Can you explain this a little further please @RobynStiger, I'm on the fence with this one so keen to hear your perspecti…
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@LynneGoodacre @lezeki @NikkiDanielsOT @otalk #Otalk
Amy Stringer @AmyStringerOT
@lezeki thanks for hosting a great #OTalk! Tweet to you all next Tuesday!
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
Thanks @LynneGoodacre and @lezeki Will need to go back and review the transcript- lots to take in tonight. Great discussion #Otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @lezeki: Thanks to everyone for their tweets. Really interesting ideas . Great to connect! #OTalk https://t.co/rhrqZZbaKL
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@preston_jenny Well, in the patients who are struggling with their drugs often they are also struggling with other aspects of their health and so it terms of collaboration with patients it helps as they can be picked up before a scheduled appointment. Just an example #otalk
Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch
@OTalk_ @lezeki Thanks to you both for facilitating such an interesting chat! Facinated to know what your PhD is about @lezeki? Is it #OT & app related? #OTalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@RebeccaCrouch @jacki_liddle @lezeki I think another point that OTs working with technology (whether for research or assistive tech) should be aware of is the difference between free and open-source software - open-source means anyone can look and see exactly how it works, which is what we should aim for #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Keep chatting all things apps and research; hopefully some links made and some good resources shared. Keep an eye out for the chat transcript so you can catch up on the tweets you may have missed. There was a lot of them tonight! #otalk
leisle Ezekiel @lezeki
Just at the last study of my PhD and looking at apps for assessing experiences of fatigue after acquired brain injury. Its a steep learning curve #OTalk
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@preston_jenny They are the answer to everything but in certain aspects they can help. Another tool in the box #otalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
@RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Yes! And that we read (and simplify if needed) terms of use. Also that we understand how the app works in with hardware- ie if uses speech to text on phone then data is leaving the phone and often going to 3rd party to do that #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
RT @colourful_ot: @RebeccaCrouch @jacki_liddle @lezeki I think another point that OTs working with technology (whether for research or assi…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@RobynStiger Are the patients involved in the development phases and have you had feedback from them? Not disagreeing, just interested as something to explore in clinical practice #OTalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@jacki_liddle @RebeccaCrouch @lezeki Have you come across this site? It has nice short overviews of what you're signing up for on various websites https://t.co/ao4UBDTRpj #OTalk
Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle
RT @colourful_ot: @jacki_liddle @RebeccaCrouch @lezeki Have you come across this site? It has nice short overviews of what you're signing u…
Robyn Stiger @RobynStiger
@preston_jenny Yes. Am a big advocate for patient involvement in the development phase and at all phases really. My research interest is in prehab, in surgical cancer patients & have been involved in a feasibility study doing just that. Seeing what works from the patient perspective. #otalk
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