#OTalk Transcript
Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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 | #OTalk @OTalk_ Welcome to November’s #Otalk Research. Tonight we are joined by @lezeki to discuss apps and smart technology in research. @NikkiDanielsOT on the @OTalk_ account |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT Happy #otweek2018 everyone! 😁👏💥🙌 #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ So who is joining us this evening? Let’s start off with some hellos before we kick off with question 1 #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @kerri_schOT: |
 | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Hi everyone great that #Otalk research fall in #OTWeek2018 |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Ok time to kick off. Over to @lezeki for question 1. Don’t forget the hashtag folks #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @kerri_schOT I am actually doing some number crunching about how I will make #rcot2019 next year. Can’t believe it is 7 months away. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ So, question 1. What are your thoughts? #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki They definitely have abilities to track data. Such abilities can not only show the progress patients are making... but also overall effectiveness of interventions. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ @RebeccaCrouch Great news, looking forward to hearing about your experiences #Otalk |
 | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Hi everyone, I’m here too looking forward to the discussion #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen rather than relying on recall or simulation #Otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen rather than relying on recall or simulation #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki Keyboarding is a great example because it is quantifiable. #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre PECS ???? @AmyStringerOT sounds interesting but not sure what it is #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: It such a broad church depending on the app/technology but has the potential to collect real time data as things happen rather than relying on recall or simulation #Otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Lots of potential uses #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @lezeki: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ @LynneGoodacre @AmyStringerOT Would like to hear more about this! Sounds interesting #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki Or- can Goniometer apps replace the such things altogether. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lezeki: |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre I’ve never done this but I’m thinking if the intervention is being delivered by different people in different places it removes error as everything is pretty standardised? #OTalk |
 | Sam Pywell @smileyfacehalo #UCLanOT @UCLanOT it's time to #OTalk !! |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @lezeki: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk We've definitely uncovered lots of uses for smart technology in research. Learning lots tonight! |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Sorry but again we not all be sure what TBI is #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre In the US- we call it traumatic brain injury. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ So, we covered lots in question 1; Here's question 2 #Otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre There was a great project in rheumatology using an app to get people to collecting data on the relationship between pain & the weather each day #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki If it is stored in the app, then it will be less likely to have recording error. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Why should we use apps in research? What are the benefits? Asks @lezeki #Otalk |
 | Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @lezeki We have done research using apps for passively monitoring geolocation to measure lifespace (geographic space in which we live and conduct activities) #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Great way to collect data! #Otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Will be great to hear about what is being used #Otalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @lezeki Also actively entering participation through time use diaries and experience sampling surveys #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre A lot of people are now v familiar with using apps/ smart technologies so easy for people to use #Otalk and not necessarily requiring a lot of new costly equipment |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Might it be about accessibility, standardisation of data collection and research processes, and real time data collection? Probably also something about the facility for inbuilt prompts, recognising how difficult it can be sometimes with research tools such as diaries #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Definitely a benefit #Otalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @lezeki Need to consider privacy/data security/ easy ways to opt out/ accessibility and making sure people can access their own data #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Lots of potential benefits here!#Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @jacki_liddle: @lezeki Also actively entering participation through time use diaries and experience sampling surveys #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @jacki_liddle: @lezeki Need to consider privacy/data security/ easy ways to opt out/ accessibility and making sure people can access their own data #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre I’m wondering if this is becoming less the case now? #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @caralawrence: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Good point. Potentially some limitations to overcome too? Think we might be exploring these further in our next question! #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @LynneGoodacre Can be less stigmatised that using “medical” equipment especially during community lives #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Working smarter! #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @RebeccaCrouch And another danger is that if you misplace it in a public place, you never know about where the data will end up. Heard about such instances when researchers left USB drives in public places. #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Does it make analysis easier, ie less inputting of data into analysis software, I’m not sure? #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @OT_Child @caralawrence @lezeki In our research we ended up providing devices to enable access for all willing (also support for use and designed with input from end users). Also meant we could provide data and not use up battery life or cause costs for participants #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre I am also thinking of last months #Otalk research on photo elicitation, we all carry cameras around with us now so this kind of method becomes more accessible |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @jacki_liddle: @OT_Child @caralawrence @lezeki In our research we ended up providing devices to enable access for all willing (also support for use and designed with input from end users). Also meant we could provide data and not use up battery life or cause costs for participants #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @kerri_schOT I had an interesting conversation with our IT Dept re use of work issued iPhone for recording research interviews as apparently that's not what it was provided for! #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki What if the devices are stolen? Sometimes that’s the risk when conducting such research in rough neighborhoods. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Already some risks identified. Any other thoughts? Here's Q3. #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @lezeki And in this day and age... what if the apps are hacked/corrupted by hackers? #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @lezeki Surely this comes down to the purpose of the research and what is actually being collected. Just because it is easier to collect data does not mean that we should collect it, this must be dependent on the research question and the methodology #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Some post chat reading! Thanks @RebeccaCrouch #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: @lezeki Surely this comes down to the purpose of the research and what is actually being collected. Just because it is easier to collect data does not mean that we should collect it, this must be dependent on the research question and the methodology #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @ChloeHagueOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @ChloeHagueOT @OTalk_ And another one- depending on the population research, will be language barrier. #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @caralawrence @kerri_schOT Glad its not just me 😀 #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre This is a difficult one because lots of apps are developed in collaboration with for profit companies as we need their skills and expertise. It would be hard to do this without their input and collaboration #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @katie_crowfoot: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: This is a difficult one because lots of apps are developed in collaboration with for profit companies as we need their skills and expertise. It would be hard to do this without their input and collaboration #OTalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @OT_Child This has been our experience - that we need to find ways (perhaps also app based?) to supplement passively collected data to check for meaning - our discussion in relation to lifespace here: https://t.co/7eR6TQB5B2 #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @lezeki True @lezeki but that is part of the research training isn't it #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre True- unless a university has the means to develop their apps internally through multidisciplinary collaboration. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @POPPED_Project: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @RobynStiger: |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki I think it is important that OTs develop technology literacy so we understand how technology we use and recommend works- where the data goes and who owns it. For eg smart speakers, speech to text etc. We need to explain well enough that informed consent possible #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @caralawrence: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki We need in-services, or placement students to bring in such new knowledge in certain settings. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Can you believe we are hurtling towards the last 10 mins. Here is Q4. Ethics!! #Otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Maybe but I just think we need to overcome this often negative bias towards for profit companies. it does not serve us well and is opposed to all the focus on collaboration between health, academia and industry #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Can you explain this a little further please @RobynStiger, I'm on the fence with this one so keen to hear your perspective, thank you #OTalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @colourful_ot @lezeki Developers can focus on what is possible rather than what is necessarily ethical - co-design can help getting people to consider. We also worked on some broad guidelines of considering ethics with smartphone based approaches: https://t.co/pLKaEF29vg #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Agree but can also reduce inter/ intra observer error, effects of environments etc #Otalk so swings and roundabouts |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @Hurya_Ahmad @lezeki Home environments could also mean the findings are MORE valid for considering everyday lives than the clinical/research environment though #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @RobynStiger: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Some more reading for later! Thanks @jacki_liddle #Otalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Actually keeping an app going with the changes to operating systems etc takes money/time in an ongoing way and this often doesn't fit with how research is funded. so this also a consideration #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @kerri_schOT: |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_Child: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Practical as well as ethical considerations #Otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @jacki_liddle: @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Actually keeping an app going with the changes to operating systems etc takes money/time in an ongoing way and this often doesn't fit with how research is funded. so this also a consideration #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Here go with our last question of night #Otalk What do we need to do to advance this practice in OT Research? |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk In to our last 5 minutes of tonight chat. It's been a fast one tonight! |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Because people are so keen to make apps - but no infrastructure to keep supporting it - have heard it likened to the "olden days" ;) trend for CD-ROMs which are now unusable! Important to also make information accessible in other forms (including low and no tech!) #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre You’re doing a great job by leading this discussion @lezeki the importance of people using apps and tech sharing their experiences,publishing research and presenting not just data but methodological papers #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Any final thoughts on what next? #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @CGoulden93: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: You’re doing a great job by leading this discussion @lezeki the importance of people using apps and tech sharing their experiences,publishing research and presenting not just data but methodological papers #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AmyStringerOT: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ @CGoulden93 @RebeccaCrouch @AmyStringerOT Glad you found it useful! #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Thank you @RobynStiger, that's helpful though I'm not sure that I would describe this as collaboration as it seems to be more to do with monitoring and adherence. Interesting #OTalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Thanks - I do work/research in this field too. But I also see lots of OTs recommending or using technology that they do not realise is always "listening" or that sends data to overseas locations and is owned by a company. #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I would definitely echo that @caralawrence #OTalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Clients may be happy with this - as often this technology can be very usable and supported - but they need to be informed so they can consider the trade off and make an informed decision #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Well folks, that's 9pm and the end of tonight's chat. Please do keep the communication going - sounds like we have a lot to take forward. A very informative and critical discussion #otalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle Have to head off to work now - but will check in on #OTalk later! Very interesting topic |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Thank you very much to tonight's host @lezeki for leading a very informative and fast moving discussion #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Thanks v much @lezeki for a great talk and also @NikkiDanielsOT for keeping us on track #Otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lezeki: |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Keep chatting all things apps and research; hopefully some links made and some good resources shared. Keep an eye out for the chat transcript so you can catch up on the tweets you may have missed. There was a lot of them tonight! #otalk |
| Jacki Liddle @jacki_liddle@aus.social @jacki_liddle @RebeccaCrouch @colourful_ot @lezeki Yes! And that we read (and simplify if needed) terms of use. Also that we understand how the app works in with hardware- ie if uses speech to text on phone then data is leaving the phone and often going to 3rd party to do that #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @RobynStiger Are the patients involved in the development phases and have you had feedback from them? Not disagreeing, just interested as something to explore in clinical practice #OTalk |
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