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Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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#OTalk @OTalk_ Good evening all and welcome to #OTalk, @Helen_OTUK on the account this evening, so if you have any questions, just give me a tweet. https://t.co/MYY4t4uTq0 | |
#OTalk @OTalk_ As always a little reminder about the #OTalk house rules.... But most of all enjoy the chat! https://t.co/0FJzUaJI36 | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Welcome aboard @GeorgiaVineOT everyone welcome and all perspectives considered #OTalk | |
#OTalk @OTalk_ Do say hi, even if you plan on lurking... Thanks to @preston_jenny for hosting this evening chat.... #OTalk | |
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Thank you #OTalk delighted to be here tonight continuing with our research chats. Welcome everyone | |
claire kettlewell @clairelouOT @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Hiya, I'm here just reading and interested in everyone's views on this as it's not a subject I'm familiar with. #OTalk | |
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Hello everyone! I'll be lurking this time but looking forward to such an interesting topic /#otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Welcome, I'm sure you will be tempted to join in #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Great to have so much interest tonight in this topic and thanks for the pre-chat engagement. So for our first question of the night #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Q1 Do you have any experience of commercial research? #OTalk | |
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JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy @preston_jenny That does seem to happen everytime I say I'm lurking. #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Evening all, research is definitely my bag but ‘commercial research’ has eluded me thus far. Will be interested to hear how can potentially overcome this as a profession #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Evening all, research is definitely my bag but ‘commercial research’ has eluded me thus far. Will be interested to hear how can potentially overcome this as a profession #OTalk | |
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Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Working alongside the medics I’ve been exposed to it as it’s more common in pharmacological studies, but don’t have first hand experience #OTalk | |
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy @BillWongOT #otalk will miss you! Enjoy your birthday lunch though 🎉🥳 | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Now that is an interesting question but I wonder if we confusing commercial activity with commercial research here? #OTalk https://t.co/9BpwpB8Eo5 | |
#OTalk @OTalk_ Just a little reminder... don't forget to include #OTalk in your tweets, or they may not get seen and will not appear in the transcript. https://t.co/h38ZEwCzYd | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @OT_KateT @preston_jenny Interesting comment, do you think there’s an image problem for i.e. commercial research = unethical? #OTalk | |
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy @preston_jenny No experience at all but it's something I'll keep my options open for in the future #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny It could be @emmaspellmanOT as commercial research is the term used to describe research involved in the development of new medicines and healthcare technologies which are supported by pharma and industry #OTalk | |
god @SegunGTP RT @OTalk_: Good evening all and welcome to #OTalk, @Helen_OTUK on the account this evening, so if you have any questions, just give me a tweet. https://t.co/MYY4t4uTq0 | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Might any of the studies have a role for occupational therapy within the research team? #OTalk | |
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy @YmchwilStroc @OT_KateT @preston_jenny I remember in uni there was a sense that you had to be more critical with commercial research in case of bias. #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I think this is very true @YmchwilStroc #OTalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Definitely! Many studies require things like cognitive assessments or assessments of function, which are definitely within our sphere of professional competency. #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Many commercial research studies include functional outcome measures such as cognitive screens, timed walking tests, 9-hole peg tests etc. Could this be an opportunity for occupational therapists to get involved instead of research nurses? #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @preston_jenny Definitely! Many studies require things like cognitive assessments or assessments of function, which are definitely within our sphere of professional competency. #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Q2. How did you think you might get involved in commercial research? #OTalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @JasminLaffy @OT_KateT @preston_jenny But what’s more often the case is that negative results are less likely to be published. So whilst critiquing the studies that are published is important there is often a wealth of unreported data https://t.co/Uid7LMGx8D #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @JasminLaffy @OT_KateT @preston_jenny But what’s more often the case is that negative results are less likely to be published. So whilst critiquing the studies that are published is important there is often a wealth of unreported data https://t.co/Uid7LMGx8D #OTalk | |
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Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT A bit late to the party, but I'm here, catching up on tonight's talk about research #OTalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @OT_KateT @preston_jenny That’s a really good point, recent moves to increase transparency in research I feel have made some good progress here #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Absolutely, there are some great opportunities here to influence but interesting that many of us have ethical concerns about getting involved #OTalk | |
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Not necessarily @GeorgiaVineOT that would be sponsorship. Commercial research has very strict governance processes in place and Trusts need to be able to demonstrate that they have the relevant supports in place #OTalk https://t.co/UWJtljH719 | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @JasminLaffy @preston_jenny I'm in the same boat, would be interested in commercial research but wouldn't know how to get involved #otalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @uk_james Better late than never 😉 #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny Sounds interesting, how involved were the commercial companies who manufacture the frames? #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny Sorry to be so late. I had experience of commercial research at Coventry university. Managing expectations of companies re ethics was a challenge but doable #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny In the first instance talk to your R&D Department. They receive notifications of all commercial trials. If you have access to the population and as a research team can meet the requirements you can get involved #OTalk. No need to sign up to huge recruitment targets either. | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT Found this definition of commercial research on NHS highland website #OTalk https://t.co/1QCZQbbkz7 | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @preston_jenny Thank you @preston_jenny, I'll make contact and keep an eye out for opportunities #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Is there any learning you can share @DrGillianWard. #OTalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny Was this in your assistive technology research? #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny It's well worth it ... literally as it generates financial income which can be reinvested in developing research capacity #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny Clear expectations, good project management, avoid “scope creep”, and being true to the principles of good ethical research are really important to protect participants in commercial research #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Q3. What are the benefits and challenges of commercial research for occupational therapists? #OTalk | |
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Excellent advice, thank you @DrGillianWard #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @preston_jenny I hadn't even thought of that! #otalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Yes, I had a secondment to the health design and technology institute. Initially providing advice on methodology to evaluate products as part of an ERDF grant funded project. #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Potential to try out novel rehab technologies for free 👍🏼 #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny We have used the income to support research modules etc #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @OTalk_ Just learnt from @preston_jenny it can generate finances to out back into developing research capacity #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Definitely a huge benefit #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Definitely a great benefit. Some of my patients recently tried a new gps watch linked with the local careline company, would have been interesting to have had an opportunity to be more involved in its development #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Q4. As always trying to cram in the last few questions. Is there any additional training required to engage in commercial research? #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny A chance to use our skills to innovate and develop new products that better meet the needs of people we work with #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I guess its more common in my sphere of practice in stroke but as @preston_jenny this also applies in neurology. I also see potential in areas such as dementia or frailty #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Another great example, thank you @DrGillianWard #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I guess its more common in my sphere of practice in stroke but as @preston_jenny this also applies in neurology. I also see potential in areas such as dementia or frailty #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny I found it a really person centered process, companies were usually very keen to find out what the end user thought about their product #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @Amie_OT @preston_jenny That would be an ideal application for a commercial research study #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @Amie_OT: @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Definitely a great benefit. Some of my patients recently tried a new gps watch linked with the local careline company, would have been interesting to have had an opportunity to be more involved in its development #otalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @OTalk_ I'm new to this subject, but is it harder to overcome bias if you're effectively being paid by a company to do certain research? #otalk | |
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Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny A challenge was when the companies didn’t like the results of what our research found! As it wasn’t what they wanted to hear! #otalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @YmchwilStroc @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny We use a lot of cognitive assessments, adls, mood monitoring etc within a dementia service #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I'm guessing this is perceived as more of a challenge. Benefit is that local research teams are less involved in ethics applications as you will participate as part of a multi-site study #OTalk so the hard work is done. | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny Did having the support and leadership of the Medicines and Healthcare Agency help to maintain objectivity and manage competing commercial interests? #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny I was wondering that as well as the impact of the researchers not getting the answers they wanted #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @NikkiDanielsOT: | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @DrGillianWard: @preston_jenny I found it a really person centered process, companies were usually very keen to find out what the end user thought about their product #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @Amie_OT @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny What’s interesting is many of these assessments themselves are derived from commercial research #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @Amie_OT @preston_jenny That would be an ideal application for a commercial research study #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny and something I could discuss with R&D #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny We found it a really helpful way to get the clinical team involved in research without it being too onerous #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @YmchwilStroc @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I didn't know that, it's interesting to know #otalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny We sought ethical approval through the university and did not recruit participants through the NHS - alternatives were local support groups and staff/students working at the uni with different health conditions #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Happy to chat beyond the session or dm me if you have specific questions #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @Amie_OT @preston_jenny It was tricky, but we always made recommendations to the company as to what they could do to address any shortcomings or suggest future product development #otalk | |
#OTalk @OTalk_ *** 5 mins *** to the end of the official #OTalk hour.... What are your final comments take away thoughts or CPD action points? https://t.co/5SwO5PGsw9 | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @emmaspellmanOT @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny We used to use the MMSE, but now use the mini ace, we use the PHQ-9 and geriatric depression scales, rhe Kingston behavioural scale, washing and dressing and kitchen assessments, have talked of using the MOCA familiar and unfamiliar tasks. Theres more I cant think of atm #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny As always it depends on the individual study, but a good place to start is with Good Clinical Practice, which is available online via the NIHR. They also offer other free interesting research related courses https://t.co/iaqtWzFxBy #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @OTalk_ Action point for me, to look more into potential research opportunities and not rule out commercial research #otalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny I would imagine that's just as helpful in itself #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @DrGillianWard: @Amie_OT @preston_jenny It was tricky, but we always made recommendations to the company as to what they could do to address any shortcomings or suggest future product development #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @DrGillianWard: @preston_jenny We sought ethical approval through the university and did not recruit participants through the NHS - alternatives were local support groups and staff/students working at the uni with different health conditions #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny We get a great deal of support from our R&D Dept which is fantastic #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @preston_jenny As always it depends on the individual study, but a good place to start is with Good Clinical Practice, which is available online via the NIHR. They also offer other free interesting research related courses https://t.co/iaqtWzFxBy #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @OTalk_ OTs have much to offer to this field of research, look out for opportunities ! #otalk | |
#OTalk @OTalk_ Well that the end of the official #OTalk hour... but please do keep chatting, we do not add the transcript to the blog for at least 24 hrs so you can still add your thoughts. Thank you to @preston_jenny for hosting this evenings thought provoking discussion. | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @Amie_OT @OTalk_ You can search for studies relating to your ‘speciality’ via the NIHR Research Portfolio - https://t.co/y77OxRN6Hp #OTalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @YmchwilStroc @OTalk_ That's amazing. Thank you #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Thank you everyone for your support and participation tonight. Hopefully we have made this topic a bit more accessible and demystified some of the anxieties #OTalk | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @GeorgiaVineOT @preston_jenny Me too! #otalk | |
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️🌈 @Amie_OT @preston_jenny Its definitely given me food for thought and helped me understand the topic! @preston_jenny thank you! #otalk | |
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Diolch @preston_jenny for hosting tonight, seems to me that tonight’s #OTalk has stimulated some potential ideas for future research activity. | |
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard @preston_jenny Thanks @preston_jenny thanks #otalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny My pleasure! We've been involved for many years and it is a really good opportunity. Good luck #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny It sure has @YmchwilStroc Thank you for your invaluable input as always #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Thank you too @DrGillianWard for your input #OTalk | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @hooper_ek: | |
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Brilliant, thanks for your contributions and questions @GeorgiaVineOT #OTalk |
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