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OTalk @OTalk_
Just under an hour to go until tonight's #OTalk. Hope you can join our host @dr_robbrooks to discuss research and pre-reg education https://t.co/Jn5ycprMfT
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
RT @OTalk_: Just under an hour to go until tonight's #OTalk. Hope you can join our host @dr_robbrooks to discuss research and pre-reg educa…
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
RT @hooper_ek: Join @NikkiDanielsOT and Rob Beckett 8pm for this evening’s #OTalk Research to share your thoughts & experiences of pre-reg…
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
See you at 8pm! #Otalk https://t.co/p7UsDwXFWA
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @hooper_ek: Join @NikkiDanielsOT and Rob Beckett 8pm for this evening’s #OTalk Research to share your thoughts & experiences of pre-reg…
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
15 years since I undertook pre-reg research, and just a matter of months until I hope to embark on #MSc professional project research. Tonight’s #OTalk should be food for thought... https://t.co/4BiJAwekLf
SFT Therapy @SFTTherapyTeam
RT @theRCOT: Tonight's #OTalk is on the topic of Pre-registration Research. 8-9pm UK time. https://t.co/JGpPUW8xvU
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
@DerbyOT students past and present. Share your thoughts and experiences of pre-reg education in our #otalk at 8pm. https://t.co/p7UsDwXFWA
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
@mrsmcinburtott Here is your official #otalk warning. Plenty of time to get the kettle on! https://t.co/p7UsDwXFWA
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
RT @hooper_ek: Join @NikkiDanielsOT and Rob Beckett 8pm for this evening’s #OTalk Research to share your thoughts & experiences of pre-reg…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Hope you can join us on #OTalk research tonight with @dr_robbrooks and @NikkiDanielsOT. Share your views on how research fits into the pre-reg. curriculum.
Bournemouth Uni OT @Bournemouth_OT
RT @OTalk_: Just under an hour to go until tonight's #OTalk. Hope you can join our host @dr_robbrooks to discuss research and pre-reg educa…
OTalk @OTalk_
10 minute warning. See you soon #OTalk https://t.co/Jn5ycprMfT
Ellen @OTEllenUK
Looking forward to this #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Welcome to April's #Otalkresearch Tonight our host is @dr_robbrooks and our talk is entitled "Pre-registration research. Never again!" Our host will start with the first question shortly. In the meantime, say hello if you are joining us this evening. Don't forget the #Otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
Hello #OTalk! Looking forward to tonights chat :-)
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
I’m here in and amongst childcare #OTalk https://t.co/rItoCs9SvS
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks I’m here #OTalk 😀
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Hello @dr_robbrooks and #OTalk, I’m here but multitasking for the first part just in case you think I’m not fully engaged. https://t.co/7Ygtd1xKF1
Emma Hooper @hooper_ek
Evening @NikkiDanielsOT. I’m here .... #OTalk
Eleanor Ramsell @RamsellEleanor
Hi from a MSc Pre-Reg from 2012 Derby Uni #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@OTalk_ looking forward to tonight’s chat #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks Ditto Jenny #OTalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks I'm here too! #Otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Hi everyone looking forward to exploring this topic together #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks Looking forward to tonight’s chat #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@NikkiDanielsOT @OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks Glad you reminded me ;) #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Good to see we have the full #Otalkresearch team online this evening. Shaping up for a great chat! #Otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#OTalk First Question: What were/are your experiences of pre-registration research?
OTalk @OTalk_
OK folks, here is @dr_robbrooks first question. Let's share our experiences of pre-registration research #Otalk https://t.co/ZDrKYyMv6Q
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@dr_robbrooks I had a placement in research delivery in my first year of training and loved every second of it! I also really enjoyed the research module we completed in second year. Currently mid-dissertation! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Hello folks! #otalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@dr_robbrooks Good question! My first observation is it’s not always embedded the same in BSc & MSc pre reg programmes #OTalk
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks As a student many years ago I completed a postal survey. Our students @CCCUOT currently complete an extended literature study but this is about to change #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@mrsmcinburtott I agree. I was also wondering what your own experiences were? Did you do a pre-reg project? #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Ok so owning up to feeling v. old at this moment - research wasn't even in the curriculum when I qualified - so I'm taking a moment to celebrate how far we have travelled #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@GemmaOTPhD @CCCUOT In what way is it going to change and why? #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@mrsmcinburtott It will be interesting to see the different experiences shared tonight between those who who studied on different routes #Otalk https://t.co/Ifq55kg48s
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@dr_robbrooks In 1980s 🙈 it was a project but not research as we would recognise it now #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks I have experience as a pre-reg research supervisor @GcuOcc. It is a really positive way to bring real life clinical questions into academia and the opportunity to give the students the opportunity to investigate meaningful topics #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@dr_robbrooks My “project” experience gave me the research bug - that real world experience of being an investigator was so valuable #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
As a student, I remembered I did a qualitative research study on placements and a CAT for quantitative research. #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
this sounds interesting - was it in an R&D dept @OTEllenUK #OTalk https://t.co/Iadle1a2fs
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks Evening all #OTalk 👋
CommHospsUK @CommHospUK
RT @theRCOT: Tonight's #OTalk is on the topic of Pre-registration Research. 8-9pm UK time. https://t.co/JGpPUW8xvU
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@LynneGoodacre I think I was one of the first students to do it where I trained. There was one lecturer who had a masters at the time. We have certainly come a long way. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @DrGillianWard: @dr_robbrooks My “project” experience gave me the research bug - that real world experience of being an investigator was…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
When I did my pre-reg degree it wasn’t empirical research and were only able to do a systematic or literature review. When I did my MSc I was able to carry out empirical research. Our students carry out research in their third year. #OTalk https://t.co/hMlMfpml0f
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks @GcuOcc So agree that the link between clinical questions and academic research is what inspires #OTalk
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks @CCCUOT Students will have the option to complete a primary research study. Important to develop skills and confidence with conducting research early on #OTalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks @GcuOcc That's my experience as well, as a post and pre-reg research supervisor, it's so important to make it relevant #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @dr_robbrooks: @LynneGoodacre I think I was one of the first students to do it where I trained. There was one lecturer who had a masters…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@LynneGoodacre Really good point there’s been some definite shifts then #OTalk
Eleanor Ramsell @RamsellEleanor
On the MSc I’m not sure we conducted any research per se, however we were definitely hugely exposed to it, critiquing, discussing, sharing, participating in #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@preston_jenny @GcuOcc Did you find clinicians needed help to frame clinical questions? I sometimes find questions are more about service development. #otalk
ed sum 🏳️‍🌈 ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 @musedNeuroOT
@dr_robbrooks We were the first year of a new course at York, St.John's and we had to conduct primary research. Subsequent cohorts could select primary or secondary research. #otalk
LisOT @lisetteheartOT
I've been qualified only around 2 years - found it so valuable to have research as part of the curriculum. Loved it and showed how not scary and easy research is! Can't wait to start more research in a clinical setting #Otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@LynneGoodacre I’m celebrating with you @LynneGoodacre as this talk gives us an opportunity to reflect on the aspirations we had @theRCOT @annaclampin_OT @MMShiells when developing the pre-registration education standards and how they have/not been embedded within the curriculum #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@PurcellCath @preston_jenny @GcuOcc What makes a study relevant? #otalk
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@LynneGoodacre It was great! Yes it was #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
That’s great to hear! #OTalk https://t.co/kY2E7LhrQL
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@VikkiBarryOT Are they doing primary research Vikki? Our BSc do a work up to project plan stage but don’t have time to undertake it. #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
A range of experiences and changes over time. Keep sharing your experiences #OTalk
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks @preston_jenny @GcuOcc My MSc research was service development focused #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@lisetteheartOT Great to hear! #otalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@LynneGoodacre Ah Lynne - I’m with you there, our experience was called a project but still included methods, data collection and analysis ##OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Not scary and easy! #Otalk #loveresearch https://t.co/baFnpbzbMG
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@musedNeuroOT Is one better than the other? or maybe more realistic that the other? #otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Where there is a gap in knowledge, theory or practice? #OTalk https://t.co/DWLUT3IoeW
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks @GcuOcc Some more than others but that’s where my clinical academic role helped @dr_robbrooks #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @dr_robbrooks: @preston_jenny @GcuOcc Did you find clinicians needed help to frame clinical questions? I sometimes find questions are mo…
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@dr_robbrooks I’ll be honest, at BSc the “research” module didn’t particularly inspire me, but now with some years of experience under my belt and midway through a post-reg MSc Adv OT my opportunity to contribute to the evidence base for our profession and enthuses me #OTalk
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT I’m interested to see how pre-reg students negotiate ethical approval in a limited time frame #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Yes they do primary research - second year is formulating a research proposal and final year is carrying out the research #OTalk https://t.co/zJH6uezmg4
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@lisetteheartOT That’s great to hear - a good first experience! #OTalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT Our BSc pre-reg students have to either undertake an empirical study or systematic review during their third year, and research is embedded throughout our curriculum, which is great #OTalk
ed sum 🏳️‍🌈 ❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 @musedNeuroOT
@dr_robbrooks LOL... it depends... 🤣 That's what I learnt conducting research and working in Occupational Therapy #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@gscottOTS Would you prefer to have done some 'real' research or is this kind of learning more helpful at undergrad? #otalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@dr_robbrooks @dr_robbrooks #OTalk having a supportive supervisor and a goal allows you opportunities to develop projects you feel passionate about, rather than choosing pre-defined topics, but you need to push for this
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@Lizzie_OT @dr_robbrooks That’s interesting what do you think it was that was uninspiring? #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any thoughts on this? Have you negotiated ethics in time to complete primary research ? #Otalk https://t.co/ZWQLCmeKjA
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@VikkiBarryOT Do they apply for ethics at the start of their final year #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
RT @OTalk_: Not scary and easy! #Otalk #loveresearch https://t.co/baFnpbzbMG
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @PurcellCath: @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT Our BSc pre-reg students have to either undertake an empirical study or systematic review du…
Beth Turner OT Student @beth_buff
Pleased to see this comment as I’m a first year MSc student starting to think about what research question I might want to do and finding it quite intimidating....! #Otalk https://t.co/q0wK1praP7
Rachel 🌙 @_rachelOT
@dr_robbrooks #otalk (oops)
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks I'm currently a second year student at Glyndwr University and we are currently putting together our research proposals for our research project in third year #Otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@GemmaOTPhD @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT I think you have to pick the studies carefully and really structure the research process #otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Yes ours is similar they select the methodology in second year which meets the aims of the research #OTalk https://t.co/djq3S23ytz
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@lucyymeganj @OTalk_ Sounds great! Thats the plan for our BSc students. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@_rachelOT @dr_robbrooks Happens to the best of us! #Otalk !! Well done for remembering! 😀
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @VikkiBarryOT: Where there is a gap in knowledge, theory or practice? #OTalk https://t.co/DWLUT3IoeW
LisOT @lisetteheartOT
@OTalk_ I think students find it easier to do research among other students, although a few students managed to gain ethical approval with tutor support among a small cohort of patients. Would be very difficult to do this on a large scale #OTalk
Camille ♡ @I_am_an_OT
@dr_robbrooks #OTalk when I did my BSc a few years ago, I had to do a Lit. Review for my dissertation.
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @preston_jenny @GcuOcc Stronger links are needed I agree between HEIs and local practitioners #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#OTalk Question Two: Is pre-registration research actually useful, to students, to clinicians, to the profession?
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@VikkiBarryOT @dr_robbrooks From what I remember, within the context of the curriculum and timescales it was so limited what we were able to do meant it lost some meaning & perhaps not a true reflection of the reality of real-world research unfortunately? #Otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Yes it works really well Lucy. How are you finding it? #OTalk https://t.co/M1XfrqZ7Zh
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@GemmaOTPhD @VikkiBarryOT Yes that seems to be our biggest problem - the ethics timeframe #OTalk
Emma Hooper @hooper_ek
Yes - even at post-reg MSc level I was encouraged to do a literature review rather than empirical research. I thought at the time that I’d rather stick pins in my eyes but it turned out that I loved doing a systematic review and it was published too #OTalk https://t.co/8WGU86TQLE
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ I'm definitely grateful it's part of the curriculum with having the tutors so readily available for support and guidance #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @PurcellCath: @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT Our BSc pre-reg students have to either undertake an empirical study or systematic review du…
OTalk @OTalk_
Perhaps some examples of good 'scholarships of practice' will emerge from tonight's chat #Otalk https://t.co/bAhCXJ8INQ
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@VikkiBarryOT Research is not covered much in the occupational therapy assistant program I am teaching in the US I think. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @lisetteheartOT: @OTalk_ I think students find it easier to do research among other students, although a few students managed to gain et…
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks Yes ... but depends on the quality of the study, success of the study, and whether results are shared. Same as any level of research #OTalk
Gemma Scott @gscottOTS
@dr_robbrooks I have enjoyed this - it sets us up for our final year projects but doesn't have the pressures of real research. We experience the good and bad, group work, relevance of quant/qual/mixed to practice and get a feel for what is out there #otalk
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@VikkiBarryOT Slightly daunting at the prospect of putting something forward and choosing our topic quite far in advance but thankfully we have good guidance from the tutors! #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@lucyymeganj @OTalk_ What kind of support works best? 1:1 supervision, group supervision, lectures? #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@lisetteheartOT @OTalk_ And I also think it is easier to do so collaboratively than going at it alone. #otalk
Joan Howarth @t_howart
RT @NikkiDanielsOT: @DerbyOT students past and present. Share your thoughts and experiences of pre-reg education in our #otalk at 8pm. http…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks @PurcellCath @GcuOcc I was reflecting on the fact that the questions reflected current clinical needs e.g. most effective interventions, dose, etc. Challenges that practitioners were facing every day in practice but did not have the time/skills to investigate themselves @dr_robbrooks #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@dr_robbrooks I’d say definitely - if you can develop an understanding and confidence before you graduate that must help you in practice #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT I do worry about students understanding of systematic reviews. There is a difference between a systematic approach to a lit review and a systematic review which often needs a team to do double screening etc #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@GemmaOTPhD I wondering if you can that quality at undergrad level? #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@dr_robbrooks Yes- because we should be good consumers of research evidence... so that we can educate service users on why we do what we do. #otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
I think it’s a fundamental part of being a student, being an OT and being part of the profession. The difficulty for most clinicians once they qualify is being able to progress further with research despite having the experience at pre-reg. What are others thoughts? #OTalk https://t.co/UNuLqVX6ws
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I think there is a distinction to be made here between BSc and M level study due to the academic quality standards and what is required at different levels #OTalk. I am conflicted about this one https://t.co/Acx4h2CPxE
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@DrGillianWard @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @preston_jenny @GcuOcc I agree, although ethics can be a challenge at BSc level due to the time frames, we have to think creatively to find ways to engage students with local practitioners so they can experience why research is just part of the way things are done #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gscottOTS: @dr_robbrooks I have enjoyed this - it sets us up for our final year projects but doesn't have the pressures of real researc…
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@mrsmcinburtott @GemmaOTPhD @VikkiBarryOT I agree, it did seem the timescales and ethics were the limiting factors for research pre-reg. Is this a commonality on all programmes/pathways? #OTalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks I think often not and turns some away from research which is a shame. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @DrGillianWard: @PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT I do worry about students understanding of systematic reviews. There…
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@GemmaOTPhD @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT Thats a really good point! I think its an opportunity to explore more creativity in research (methods) perhaps longer placements alongside the research to work and develop EBP together #OTalk
Joan Howarth @t_howart
RT @OTalk_: Any thoughts on this? Have you negotiated ethics in time to complete primary research ? #Otalk https://t.co/ZWQLCmeKjA
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT I agree. A systematic review is a tough piece of work for an experienced researcher. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @VikkiBarryOT: I think it’s a fundamental part of being a student, being an OT and being part of the profession. The difficulty for most…
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ At the moment we are having lectures on aspects of facilitating our research however also have more guidance within small groups and will also be having a 1:1 tutorial before submitting our proposal #Otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any experiences to share on this one? What worked best for you? #Otalk https://t.co/GZmIr0Z7xo
Kirsty @Kirsty_OT
@dr_robbrooks I completed an 'Independent Learning Module' which really gave me a taste on conducting research to evidence my learning. This helped stand me in good stead for the dreaded dissertation and I chose a topic that fueled my motivation in an attempt to evidence against.... #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@RobTheOT What things do you think go wrong for the student? #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@VikkiBarryOT I agree- being motivated to do research is not easy once being qualified. #otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott Yes they don’t generally get the time to complete this in the detail that’s required #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lizzie_OT: @mrsmcinburtott @GemmaOTPhD @VikkiBarryOT I agree, it did seem the timescales and ethics were the limiting factors for resea…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @vanhoorn_LA: @GemmaOTPhD @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT Thats a really good point! I think its an opportunity to explore more creativity…
OTalk @OTalk_
Here is question 2 from our host #Otalk https://t.co/IO1HqCS6vW
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Kirsty_OT: @dr_robbrooks I completed an 'Independent Learning Module' which really gave me a taste on conducting research to evidence m…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@PurcellCath @DrGillianWard @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @GcuOcc Perhaps that’s where the clinical academic role worked well as I was able to do some of the prep for ethics. We were successful on several occasions #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I would love to see a greater emphasis on understanding the research infrastructure, research culture, delivery systems, implementation science etc as a foundation to build upon in BSc progs, #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ Is it better to still do it but less thoroughly do you think? I’m not sure #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @preston_jenny: @PurcellCath @DrGillianWard @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @GcuOcc Perhaps that’s where the clinical academic role worked well as…
OTalk @OTalk_
A perhaps controversial point to discuss? #Otalk https://t.co/byGp2mNdPn
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks I did a research dissertation as part of my pre-reg msc. I was very ambitious at first in the design and methodology but had to simplify later on due to time and practical constraints. It was stressful but I enjoyed parts of it #otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@lucyymeganj @OTalk_ Thanks, good to hear the you are getting good support. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: I would love to see a greater emphasis on understanding the research infrastructure, research culture, delivery systems,…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
I completely agree with this Lynne. Students on pre-reg programmes need to be inspired by research in a creative and innovative way #OTalk https://t.co/WI1rtEBlwi
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LynneGoodacre And I think it should be the same for OT assistants in US and Canada too. Understanding the gist of the research is helpful. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
A good example of HEI and clinical practice collaboration on pre-reg research? #Otalk https://t.co/bdPLN5pWWP
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@RobTheOT My MSc students can get stressed too. Are we expecting too much for pre-reg research? #otalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@LynneGoodacre We have a new EBP module in our 2nd year which aims to give students a good grounding in research methods & also consider skills of critical appraisal and dissemination #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ It seems like it’s dipping in the toe or nothing at all? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RobTheOT: @dr_robbrooks I did a research dissertation as part of my pre-reg msc. I was very ambitious at first in the design and method…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@lisetteheartOT Brilliant @lisetteheartOT that’s exactly what we had hoped for #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT @PurcellCath @OTalk_ I think it’s about being clear about systematic review methodology #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT I think we have to evolve as the profession evolves. #otalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks Sometimes lack of support both in designing research projects and in carrying them out. Many seem to have little clinical application as maybe sometimes seen as a tick box exercise? My supervisor pushed me to think big and helped a lot in design #otalk
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@dr_robbrooks Our pre-reg research is a group project, which has been a good way of experiencing the research process and have a better appreciation for writing up the research as a group. I've always wanted to engage in research in the future and this gives me a a starting point #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
That sounds fab Sian. Our students have this integrated within the research modules #OTalk https://t.co/tgXRldbENT
SuzyorkOT @SuzyorkOT
@OTalk_ We were involved in a joint project with a local authority. Ethics was fairly straightforward fortunately, know people struggle when working on more complex health issues #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Often because the emphasis is on 'doing research' rather than understanding research culture, infrastructure, how to develop collaborations, what is realistic at this level etc #Otalk https://t.co/SngIh3tgo3
Emma Hooper @hooper_ek
This is a great example of how HEI and clinical links can be very beneficial #OTalk .... it makes me wonder if pre-reg research could be approached like an internship would be. Any thoughts on this? @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ https://t.co/Sph1cXPLp7
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@LynneGoodacre I agree. NIHR has its own culture! You have me thinking now @LynneGoodacre about how to do this.#otalk
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@DanWaldronOT @dr_robbrooks My educator was working on a few OT studies which gave me an opportunity to see a variety of things. We were usually implementing the interventions that were being researched or completing the data collection assessments #OTalk
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks Even if it’s not of publishable quality - the act of managing and carrying out a research project can give a student so many skills which are transferable to practice #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@VikkiBarryOT It runs for the first time this term so we will see 😂 (guess who is teaching it!!!) #OTalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @OTalk_ I think students need to engage in research that is meaningful to them in the context of occupational therapy, if this involves working with a partner then we should do what we can to facilitate this. That said I would always go for quality #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@mrsmcinburtott @LynneGoodacre Sounds great! #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @MandyGrahamOT: @dr_robbrooks Even if it’s not of publishable quality - the act of managing and carrying out a research project can give…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RobTheOT: @dr_robbrooks Sometimes lack of support both in designing research projects and in carrying them out. Many seem to have littl…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@dr_robbrooks @LynneGoodacre Really good thoughts #Otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @OTEllenUK: @DanWaldronOT @dr_robbrooks My educator was working on a few OT studies which gave me an opportunity to see a variety of thi…
Laura Cliff @laurafcliff
@dr_robbrooks I'm about to start my MSc pre-reg research and I would say it is definitely v. useful. I've learnt a lot throughout the process of thinking what research is lacking in the topics I'm interested in, doing the research proposal and I'm excited to see the findings #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @hooper_ek: This is a great example of how HEI and clinical links can be very beneficial #OTalk .... it makes me wonder if pre-reg resea…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: Often because the emphasis is on 'doing research' rather than understanding research culture, infrastructure, how to dev…
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@dr_robbrooks I think it helps to give an appreciation of research and a base for those thinking of a future in research. Would be great if we had more scope for research topic but as students I think we tend to want to get all the answers #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@PurcellCath @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @OTalk_ i would agree that students could work in pairs or groups - can be tricky to get this t to meet learning outcomes. #otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Couldn’t agree more and this helps pre-reg students understand tge importance of research to the profession #OTalk https://t.co/mZBAHmbVTD
Internships @ifindinternship
RT @hooper_ek: This is a great example of how HEI and clinical links can be very beneficial #OTalk .... it makes me wonder if pre-reg resea…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ I also have experience of supervising a doctoral internship @hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks and there were still challenges with ethics and time constraints but an interesting model #OTalk
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RT @PurcellCath: @mrsmcinburtott @VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @OTalk_ I think students need to engage in research that is meaningful to the…
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@DanWaldronOT @dr_robbrooks I was also able to attend the research team meetings and gain a general insight into the world of OT research! #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
It has to be meaningful - just like OT. As cliche as it sounds - that’s what motivates and inspires #OTalk https://t.co/5XCjIgmOxB
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ We have our first paid student internship with a partner running this summer to deliver a specific element of a service improvement project, so I think (or at least) hope that it is do-able! But it would be hard to do this for all students? #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Do keep us posted Sian! Good luck #OTalk https://t.co/434NxC60KR
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks @lucyymeganj @OTalk_ I think a combination is always good to cater for different learning styles #OTalk
Rachel 🌙 @_rachelOT
@dr_robbrooks As a student my research experience has been a huge learning curve. I will admit to still feeling clueless! I am lucky to have experienced supervisors who are passionate about research. I feel that it has been a useful/protected starting point to learn and develop from #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Anyone any experience of this? #Otalk https://t.co/rzOREy21OO
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @VikkiBarryOT: It has to be meaningful - just like OT. As cliche as it sounds - that’s what motivates and inspires #OTalk https://t.co/5…
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @VikkiBarryOT: Couldn’t agree more and this helps pre-reg students understand tge importance of research to the profession #OTalk https:…
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@dr_robbrooks @GemmaOTPhD Quality I dont think its down to experience necessarily but drive, a good idea that encourages thinking and exploration can be found anywhere. A value to seeing things with fresh eyes #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
And not just NIHR - how do medical research charities function, who are the major funders like the research councils, the role of orgs. like @LindAlliance how do you form collaborations with an HEI what is realistic to expect etc etc #OTalk https://t.co/9WlkPFxjop
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@_rachelOT @dr_robbrooks That’s really honest - and I think most students feel this #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT For me the data collection and analysis experience is part of the excitement of doing research, the discovery of new knowledge - even if it’s only new to that student is amazing. #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@BillWongOT @VikkiBarryOT I think it might depend on each of our interests and priorities @BillWongOT as I still actively engage in research as a clinician and strategic leader #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@_rachelOT There is a steep learning curve with research. Is there anything universities could do to support the learning? #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @_rachelOT: @dr_robbrooks As a student my research experience has been a huge learning curve. I will admit to still feeling clueless! I…
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @LynneGoodacre: Often because the emphasis is on 'doing research' rather than understanding research culture, infrastructure, how to dev…
Laura Cliff @laurafcliff
@dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT If it's a MSc then I don't think it's too much to ask for some students. I have a degree in Sociology so understand bits of doing a research project where as some of my cohort have never done any kind of research so it was more overwhelming for them. #OTalk
Emma Hooper @hooper_ek
It sounds like this gave you valuable hands-on experience. Has this linked into your pre-reg research module too @OTEllenUK ? #OTalk https://t.co/2e38k5Dtqa
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @preston_jenny @GcuOcc @HillingdonOTs @CNWLNHS @Bruneluni @OTatBrunel Fab! #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @PurcellCath: @hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ We have our first paid student internship with a partner running this summer to deliver a…
SystematicReviewBot @EvidenceRobot
RT @hooper_ek: Yes - even at post-reg MSc level I was encouraged to do a literature review rather than empirical research. I thought at the…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@preston_jenny @BillWongOT Yes I agree - it does depend on the service and role your in #OTalk
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @dr_robbrooks: @RobTheOT My MSc students can get stressed too. Are we expecting too much for pre-reg research? #otalk
Gemma Scott @gscottOTS
I agree - I think it needs to be meaningful to enable you to really enjoy it! #otalk https://t.co/P79B7KBWl5
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@OTalk_ We're running our first group dissertation project at the moment, I'm looking forward to evaluating this as a model. Would be interested to hear if anyone has any experience of group projects? #OTalk
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@MandyGrahamOT @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ Agreed! I think the group sessions have actually been really valuable for sounding our ideas out and for creative learning whereas the 1:1 offers more dedicated time for individual feedback on our ideas #OTalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks Some students I knew on the bsc felt research shouldn’t be part of their degrees and should just be for the msc. They did research proposals which must have been less satisfying than completing the project? It was a shame they weren’t inspired to value research #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@VikkiBarryOT Yep don’t want to spend a lot of time doing something you don’t care for #otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#otalk Questions three: Do universities make research accessible/enjoyable for pre-registration students?
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
any of our students experiene research gone wrong? Tell us about it with #OTalk https://t.co/BHBmVbv4p2
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ Perhaps an opportunity to do group research projects rather than siloed research? #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @dr_robbrooks: @_rachelOT There is a steep learning curve with research. Is there anything universities could do to support the learning…
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @Lizzie_OT: @mrsmcinburtott @GemmaOTPhD @VikkiBarryOT I agree, it did seem the timescales and ethics were the limiting factors for resea…
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@PurcellCath @OTalk_ That sounds interesting - is it an assessed piece of work? #OTalk
Philippa Anne Logan @LoganPip
RT @OTalk_: A good example of HEI and clinical practice collaboration on pre-reg research? #Otalk https://t.co/bdPLN5pWWP
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @caralawrence: @VikkiBarryOT Yep don’t want to spend a lot of time doing something you don’t care for #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RobTheOT: @dr_robbrooks Some students I knew on the bsc felt research shouldn’t be part of their degrees and should just be for the msc…
OTalk @OTalk_
Moving on to Q3. What are your thoughts on if and how universities make research accessible and/or enjoyable? #Otalk https://t.co/frjTNKurW9
Jenny Hong @OTJennyH
@dr_robbrooks My research experience during this time was on OT and the recovery model and how it was perceived by forensic service users. @otalk #otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@vanhoorn_LA @VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ I think group projects sounds like a good idea, for those that want to. #otalk
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks Sorry a bit late to the party - playing catch up - my BSc experience was conducting a survey on music as a meaningful occupation. It was on a student population so easy recruitment. The experience was positive but I had a very supportive supervisor I recall #OTalk @Otalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
This is one of the most valuable questions! Our students don’t currently do OT specific research and this is one of the things the students would like to be able to do. #OTalk https://t.co/lgli22GBjS
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RT @vanhoorn_LA: @VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ Perhaps an opportunity to do group research projects rat…
Rachel 🌙 @_rachelOT
@dr_robbrooks There really is! Personally, I feel that @OTPlymouthUni we have been given the right combination of learning through lectures and reading/group supervision/autonomy to make our own mistakes. Our biggest error (I feel) was that our questions were not specific enough pt1 #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott And also to have the opportunity to get the support to conduct systematic reviews. Even students working in groups need to tap into experienced researchers for systematic reviews #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks Actually many of my masters classmates too. And in US, this is actually a key argument for many against the doctorate as point of entry for OTR’s. #otalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks This is a similar model to what we have. Our hope is they will learn the process/feel confident and want to progress to future study with competent skills #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@MandyGrahamOT @dr_robbrooks @otalk Welcome! Thanks for joining us #Otalk
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RT @preston_jenny: @VikkiBarryOT @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ @mrsmcinburtott And also to have the opportunity to get the support to…
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@_rachelOT @dr_robbrooks I agree, I think some students don't feel they gain a lot from the experience but for those of us who do have an interest for the future, it's an opportunity to explore research without it being too scary #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@vanhoorn_LA @VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ We have had clinical psychology student review some of our data we have as part of their uni work do OT schools do this? It’s a 2 way process #otalk
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@hooper_ek I definitely had an advantage going into the research module having had the experience of my research placement. Everything we were being taught in the module was easier for me to understand and appreciate because I had seen it happening first hand. #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@mrsmcinburtott @RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks I think this is really key #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@PurcellCath @hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ We’re offering a research internship @rcot this summer. I agree difficult to get this experience for all students though #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@_rachelOT @OTPlymouthUni Getting the questions right and specific enough is a challenge for researchers. Practise makes perfect, maybe! #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@RobTheOT @BillWongOT @VikkiBarryOT That’s so critical to the research process @RobTheOT, I’m so pleased you are having these discussions #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Good point! What has been the topic of pre-reg students research? Has it been OT specific? Does it matter? #Otalk https://t.co/aPS1PcLlVp
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
What do you think would make it less scary Sophie? #OTalk https://t.co/UVya6llWpv
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @OTEllenUK: @hooper_ek I definitely had an advantage going into the research module having had the experience of my research placement.…
Ellen @OTEllenUK
@hooper_ek I went into the research module already interested in research and I think that made all the difference #OTalk
Laura Cliff @laurafcliff
@dr_robbrooks @YSJOT we had a choice of doing a lecturer led research project, a group project or an individual project which meant there was lots of choice available on what to do. Time constraints can make the project less enjoyable/accessible, especially on the MSc. #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
RT @OTalk_: Good point! What has been the topic of pre-reg students research? Has it been OT specific? Does it matter? #Otalk https://t.…
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@dr_robbrooks Yes - if it's positioned as more than just an assignment, if they see the relevance of it, if they can see the relevance of research skills in practice and have excited and research active teaching staff and see the impact of research on practice... #OTalk
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RT @VikkiBarryOT: What do you think would make it less scary Sophie? #OTalk https://t.co/UVya6llWpv
Rachel 🌙 @_rachelOT
@dr_robbrooks @OTPlymouthUni Pt2 that resulted in not getting as much depth as we hoped for from some participants. But, I think that having the opportunity to go through the process, conduct interviews & interact with participants & make those mistakes!) has taught us equally as much as the module #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Alongside group projects what about linking in with research already being undertaken by academics e.g small project embedded in a larger project. I know this limits personal choice but this is more aligned to how research works #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OTEllenUK: @hooper_ek I definitely had an advantage going into the research module having had the experience of my research placement.…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @SophieMaynard8: @_rachelOT @dr_robbrooks I agree, I think some students don't feel they gain a lot from the experience but for those of…
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@lucyymeganj @MandyGrahamOT @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ Ok my undergrad (not OT) we had a dissertation class every second week discussing different aspects, four of us met weekly for coffee to discuss our progress and read each other’s work and we had a few meet ups with supervisor too. Helped a lot. Peer review is important. #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks That’s all good research learning @RobTheOT even experienced researchers have to reign in their ideas, that’s the skill in my opinion #OTalk
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @dr_robbrooks: #OTalk Question Two: Is pre-registration research actually useful, to students, to clinicians, to the profession?
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: Alongside group projects what about linking in with research already being undertaken by academics e.g small project emb…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @PurcellCath: @dr_robbrooks Yes - if it's positioned as more than just an assignment, if they see the relevance of it, if they can see t…
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@RobTheOT @lucyymeganj @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ Thanks @RobTheOT I think that is a great way to learn and support each other. #otalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@LynneGoodacre Learning from experienced researchers would add so much to pre-reg experience #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @_rachelOT: @dr_robbrooks @OTPlymouthUni Pt2 that resulted in not getting as much depth as we hoped for from some participants. But, I t…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: Alongside group projects what about linking in with research already being undertaken by academics e.g small project emb…
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@dr_robbrooks We have had opportunities to be participants in research throughout and then the group research project which we began in our second year to finish in our final year. The pressure of it feeling so huge perhaps impacts the enjoyability but so far it has been good #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT I’m not sure that we are expecting too much ... but perhaps we need more reflection on the infrastructures already in place #OTalk
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RT @DrGillianWard: @LynneGoodacre Learning from experienced researchers would add so much to pre-reg experience #OTalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@dr_robbrooks #Otalk perhaps a legacy of degree programs overall that research is the final hurdle to qualification. Perhaps repackaging could inspire and make more accessible? @dr_robbrooks
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@DrGillianWard @LynneGoodacre Having the opportunity to share my research benefits me and my students #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT Agree! #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Interesting perspective to experience being a participant #Otalk https://t.co/56MOmpXHyu
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks We encourage our BSc students to offer to participate in research projects to experience it. Do you think that’s helpful Sophie? #OTalk
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RT @vanhoorn_LA: @dr_robbrooks #Otalk perhaps a legacy of degree programs overall that research is the final hurdle to qualification. Perha…
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@PurcellCath @dr_robbrooks Totally agree @PurcellCath I do think we need to look at curriculum content too though #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Totally agree with this - it provides authenticity which I feel is really important for students and researchers alike #Otalk https://t.co/swZcTcjWLG
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#OTalk Question Four: What types of research could/should pre-registration students be conducting?
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@LynneGoodacre I think this can work if there is enough flexibility in the institution, I have a student working with me on a project, but it's not easy or scalable #OTalk
Kirsty @Kirsty_OT
@dr_robbrooks Universities that offer an 'Independent Learning Module' are invaluable in preparing you for research! #OTalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@caralawrence @VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ What a brilliant idea!!! I haven't heard of this but have in research placements collaborated with other professions which I think really helps thinking #Otalk
Rachel 🌙 @_rachelOT
@dr_robbrooks Our research group was lucky to have a broad topic that we could make our own/relevant to our prof background/interests. Not everybody in our cohort had this experience & research can understandably be a tedious process if it is not focused on an area of interest #otalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@GemmaOTPhD @DrGillianWard @LynneGoodacre A research informed curriculum is essential I think. Where students can see links to what they are learning to recent research #OTalk
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@VikkiBarryOT I think the enormity of choosing a topic and methods etc can be daunting. We were given topics to choose from as part of a group that would be supervised by a lecturer in that area which made it less scary #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@vanhoorn_LA I like that idea of repackaging! Any ideas of how to do this? #otalk
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @mrsmcinburtott: @GemmaOTPhD @DrGillianWard @LynneGoodacre A research informed curriculum is essential I think. Where students can see l…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Good question - it was something I raised earlier - should it matter whether it’s OT specific research or not? #Otalk https://t.co/WOsK6CgAQL
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@PurcellCath @dr_robbrooks Agree @PurcellCath these are all key ingredients for developing research interested students #OTalk
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@mrsmcinburtott @SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks I’ve volunteered to participate in research previously and found it valuable experience and now better informed. Good idea for pre-reg students #OTalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@DrGillianWard @LynneGoodacre I absolutely agree with you #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: Alongside group projects what about linking in with research already being undertaken by academics e.g small project emb…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
@dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA Yes I would be interested in this too #OTalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks Should be meeting with service users and clinicians to find gaps in knowledge. Should be partnering with agencies (charities etc) to explore problems they encounter. I did mine through a charity-run special school which meant no need for long nhs ethics #otalk
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@mrsmcinburtott @dr_robbrooks Yeah definitely, I really enjoy participating. I also participate in psychology student research as I feel they get to complete a wider breadth of research and have access to more resources at our university #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@VikkiBarryOT I think I would always prefer research related to #OccupationalTherapy however you don't need this to learn research skills #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Tonight's chat is going fast! In to our last 15 minutes. Here is Q4 #Otalk https://t.co/k4KvVrbrbL
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks Students prefer to choose a topic they feel personally passionate about so it’s more enjoyable. Time constraints do limit things but it is the same for occupational therapy researchers post reg! Its the reality of delivering the goods within a set time frame! #OTalk @OTalk_
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Thoughts? #Otalk https://t.co/3PhXm8fLrS
Team Catton @g_catton
@dr_robbrooks I have enjoyed completing a mixed methods research project this semester. Utilising volunteer patients for data gathering and working through data analysis. Great practical and active learning experience #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any ideas? #Otalk https://t.co/dV0rUexS76
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @mrsmcinburtott: @GemmaOTPhD @DrGillianWard @LynneGoodacre A research informed curriculum is essential I think. Where students can see l…
Dr Heather Baglee @HeatherBaglee
timing an interesting research activity within the academic year/module cycle can be a challenge! #otalk
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @OTalk_: Tonight's chat is going fast! In to our last 15 minutes. Here is Q4 #Otalk https://t.co/k4KvVrbrbL
Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope
RT @g_catton: @dr_robbrooks I have enjoyed completing a mixed methods research project this semester. Utilising volunteer patients for data…
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@dr_robbrooks I think it’s useful for students to get hands on experience of research - it helps to better understand what they read. Even if not immediately useful for the profession, in longer term can be if it instills an interest to do more. #Otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@vanhoorn_LA @VikkiBarryOT @mrsmcinburtott @DrGillianWard @PurcellCath @OTalk_ I think it is more common in other professions #otalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@dr_robbrooks Perhaps encouraging thinking about research topics for pre-reg application. Then encouraging taking ownership of how to carry the proposed research out from enrollment on the course- empowering students straight away #Occbalance #Otalk @dr_robbrooks
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@VikkiBarryOT I personally think that pre-reg students should be engaging in research that has an OT focus or related to the impact of occupation on health and wellbeing - but wonder what other people think? #OTalk
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RT @dr_robbrooks: @VikkiBarryOT I think I would always prefer research related to #OccupationalTherapy however you don't need this to learn…
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks Something which is easy to contain #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@vanhoorn_LA I like that idea. Choosing a question can be tough. #OTalk
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@OTalk_ Preferably where there’s a gap in the knowledge or evidence base? Ideally #OccupationalTherapy specific to promote the profession and #ValueOfOT @dr_robbrooks #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks These collaborations can also aid research recruitment too so mutually beneficial @RobTheOT #OTalk
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RT @PurcellCath: @VikkiBarryOT I personally think that pre-reg students should be engaging in research that has an OT focus or related to t…
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@dr_robbrooks I would personally advocate for students ‘doing’ research though - although practically research proposals are easier for programmes to facilitate my view is they are far less motivating #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @PurcellCath: @VikkiBarryOT I personally think that pre-reg students should be engaging in research that has an OT focus or related to t…
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks we also need to continue this as qualified clinicians research is part of the NHS constitution should we have a research goal in appraisal ?to shadow, lit review, disseminating evidence #otalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#OTalk Question Five: How can clinicians/managers use the research skills of new graduates?
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks @VikkiBarryOT I would agree but essentially the research needs to be of interest and hold meaning for the researcher #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
@PurcellCath @VikkiBarryOT I don’t think our students would remain engaged if it wasn’t. We allow them to choose topics but they must relate to OT/occupation #OTalk
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @VikkiBarryOT Being interested in the topic certainly makes learning it more enjoyable and easier in my opinion! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@PurcellCath @VikkiBarryOT I think OT focus is good so that they can appreciate these studies require vigorous work. #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA I also wonder about having some research projects that are in process that students could apply for #otalk
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Q5 from our host #Otalk https://t.co/Ec39ex9BMf
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks Oooh this is exciting! Look out for the James Lind Alliance approach we are taking to OT research priorities - would be great to@link student projects to this too #OTalk
Lucy Jones @lucyymeganj
@dr_robbrooks At @GlyndwrOT we are encouraged to conduct research which is relevant to contemporary OT practice however can choose to either do a systematic style approach or empirical research #Otalk
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@dr_robbrooks Promote research as a normal activity for all and where possible allow time to complete #OTalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@PurcellCath @VikkiBarryOT I agree. An occupation focus could be included in most areas with some tweeting though? #otalk
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Tonight's top tweet! I think it sums it up nicely #Otalk https://t.co/hguHBjKTdj
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@dr_robbrooks I have definitely used reviewing literature when I first qualified but I really do not feel it is utilised as much as it should. Research is everyones business and I feel a skill we easily become less confident #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Definitely @caralawrence #OTalk https://t.co/VYHfsn5Q9I
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@DrGillianWard @RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks Very much looking forward to the new OT research priorities and working with pre-reg students on projects that align with these #OTalk
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Couldn’t agree more #OTalk https://t.co/8gqppYSNpe
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@dr_robbrooks We could be handy for collecting/transcribing data, which in turn would give us more opportunities to be a part of the research process #OTalk
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RT @PurcellCath: @DrGillianWard @RobTheOT @dr_robbrooks Very much looking forward to the new OT research priorities and working with pre-re…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
but it's possible to build a thematic approach so that small projects build upon/contribute to each other. There is a lot that can be done to engage people in a topic which at 1st sight may not feel relevant #OTalk https://t.co/U4Q2peWGA5
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA Students being able to join ongoing staff research projects, to data collect a small part of a bigger project is one thing we offer @YSJOT which is successful on both undergrad and pre reg programmes - this way the question is already set #OTalk
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RT @sue_mesa: @dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA Students being able to join ongoing staff research projects, to data collect a small part of a big…
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
#OTalk Last Question: What should clinicians and academics do to talent spot potential future researchers?
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@caralawrence @sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks Yes, definitely - go for it! #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks 1. Start by recognising research skills as equal to clinical skills. 2. Don’t be afraid of graduates with research skills. 3. Learn from them!!! You can tell I’m passionate about this #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Yes absolutely #OTalk https://t.co/eCS9Vp3Mfx
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
@sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA @YSJOT I really like this idea as it would also help us as staff to build our research capacity #OTalk
Emma Hooper @hooper_ek
We recognised in @LancashireCare that there is an opportunity to build on this once in clinical practice so B5 AHP projects are embedded in the C&F network. They are primarily service evaluation or action learning projects #OTalk https://t.co/F54wsnvbuB
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Less than 5 minutes to go! Keep chatting! #otalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks I agree, I think there is a natural progression in learning about research from understanding to contributing to applying, all of which can be done with partners if we think creatively #OTalk
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RT @preston_jenny: @dr_robbrooks 1. Start by recognising research skills as equal to clinical skills. 2. Don’t be afraid of graduates with…
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@PurcellCath @VikkiBarryOT Agree with this - to be related to either occupational therapy or occupational science #OTalk
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Just about time to sneak in one last question #Otalk https://t.co/lbWAhJRDNA
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@hooper_ek @LancashireCare Brilliant! #OTalk
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA @YSJOT It’s the only way I can keep my research projects going so it benefits both me and the students! #OTalk
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@dr_robbrooks Measuring outcomes, designing more systematic pathways and care plans, evaluation evidence of current interventions. It’s important to allow new graduates to question why things are done a certain way and to allow us to be involved in all areas. I’m thankful my team does. #OTalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks Absolutely - understanding research is core to good clinical #OTalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks @YSJOT Absolutely brilliant! What a great way to inspire #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@OTalk_ Have events for networking. I also think academics need to remember clinicians don't always work near an OT school. I feel lucky living in Cambridge with links to research including MRC but we need role models. also not everyone accesses things like this #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks That’s very true @SophieMaynard8 but I wonder if there is a risk of students getting the wrong impression of research if they only participate in the data collection phase #OTalk
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Its 9pm and that is our hour of #Otalkresearch up for this month. An engaging, vibrant and informative chat. Lots of food for thought and lots of great questions posed! Thank you to our host @dr_robbrooks for getting us thinking and chatting #otalk
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks I think new graduates can be great advocates in making research seem less scary! New grads can help up skill OT’s who perhaps didn’t do any primary research when they trained. Fly the flag for the importance of making research part & parcel of everyday practice! #OTalk @OTalk_
Rob Molloy @RobTheOT
@caralawrence @sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks I love this idea! I’m glad my supervisor has a PhD and has engaged in research and wants to involve me in some in the future #otalk
Lucy @vanhoorn_LA
@dr_robbrooks Whoops #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@preston_jenny I totally agree, use the skills to enhance clinical practice. I like your passion :) #OTalk
Dawn Scull @DawnScull
RT @preston_jenny: @dr_robbrooks 1. Start by recognising research skills as equal to clinical skills. 2. Don’t be afraid of graduates with…
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@OTalk_ Encourage them to disseminate and build research networks for support #OTalk
sian burgess @mrsmcinburtott
Thanks for a great chat. Great to see whats out related to research in pre reg curriculum and give thought to how we can take it forward @dr_robbrooks @NikkiDanielsOT #OTalk
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
RT @MandyGrahamOT: @dr_robbrooks I think new graduates can be great advocates in making research seem less scary! New grads can help up ski…
Laura Cliff @laurafcliff
@dr_robbrooks Provide lots of opportunities for students to be included in their research projects-helping at a conference/helping with their research in anyway/discussing their research with students who are interested/generally sharing their research. #OTalk
Kirsty @Kirsty_OT
@dr_robbrooks Definitely think these research skills can be used to identify any gaps in a service! New graduates have a lot to offer and help remind us how important research is to our practice! #OTalk
Jenny Hong @OTJennyH
@dr_robbrooks I find it useful. it allows students to practice conducting research. If the topic is of their interest, that's even better. If students want to go into research, they'll be able to see if the research they do can be published and used for the community of interest @otalk #otalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
@OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks Thank you, thoroughly enjoyed this evenings #OTalk
Kerry Edwards @KerryEdwardsOT
RT @sue_mesa: @dr_robbrooks @vanhoorn_LA Students being able to join ongoing staff research projects, to data collect a small part of a big…
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
I will definitely be going back to review tonight's transcript. Think I missed a lot of interesting tweets #otalk https://t.co/IljdY7j1Xx
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@OTalk_ It has been a pleasure #otalkresearch #OTalk Lots of interesting and thoughtful debate.
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@RobTheOT @sue_mesa @dr_robbrooks my line manager is very keen on research @ozcboss but other times I think research has been seen as something others did not "normal ots" #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Brilliant #OTalk Research tonight - thanks so much @dr_robbrooks for suggesting this topic and fielding so many tweets and thanks @NikkiDanielsOT for keeping us all on course
Dr Gemma Wells @GemmaOTPhD
RT @PurcellCath: @OTalk_ @dr_robbrooks Thank you, thoroughly enjoyed this evenings #OTalk
Rob Brooks @dr_robbrooks
@caralawrence @RobTheOT @sue_mesa @ozcboss I agree, we need to try and change this. Great to have a supportive boss though #OTalk
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@mrsmcinburtott @dr_robbrooks @NikkiDanielsOT Thanks for joining us @mrsmcinburtott Was great to see so many HEI representatives join in and share #Otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ Thank you for the topic! #otalk
Gillian Ward @DrGillianWard
@dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ Thank you Rob. I’d forgotten how much I enjoy #OTalk
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Don't forget that a transcript will be available soon. Keep chatting and sharing thoughts #Otalk https://t.co/ZYwPIF9pxG
Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT
@dr_robbrooks Promote attendance at research conferences as the norm. Make sure staff sign up to the UKOTRF fortnightly newsletter. Set up lunch time journal clubs. Promote internships and scholarships with NIHR. @OTalk_ #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@dr_robbrooks Create opportunities at all levels for future researchers to participate e.g. member of a steering group, be part of a research study, encourage to be a member of the Ethics Committee, promote CPD and create funding opportunities #OTalk
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks That's true, and it would be great to become more involved than this if possible. But it could be a foot in the door so to speak to work with researchers #OTalk
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@DrGillianWard @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ Thank you all, an hour well spent #OTalk
Jenny Hong @OTJennyH
@dr_robbrooks I think they can provide more awareness of what's available for students to join so students can contribute and broaden their research knowledge. @OTalk_ #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @MandyGrahamOT: @dr_robbrooks I think new graduates can be great advocates in making research seem less scary! New grads can help up ski…
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RT @MandyGrahamOT: @dr_robbrooks Promote attendance at research conferences as the norm. Make sure staff sign up to the UKOTRF fortnightly…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @dr_robbrooks: @OTalk_ It has been a pleasure #otalkresearch #OTalk Lots of interesting and thoughtful debate.
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Me too @NikkiDanielsOT thanks to you and 🤔@dr_robbrooks for a great chat. I’m feeling energised, stimulated and off on a mission #OTalk https://t.co/nh9IHzKoLg
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks Think this is very true, doing an Masters in research or phd seem such massive steps, many Ot's would be scared off where as smaller steps would make it more accessible, #otalk
Edward Duncan @easduncan
@dr_robbrooks Great question. In my experience, good talent bubbles to the top and makes itself known. Our job is to nurture and provide opportunities- especially at a postdoc level where the bottleneck becomes very thin. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@dr_robbrooks Talk to the students during placement as the practitioners get to know them. Also, be savvy about avenues to help them reach their goals. It’s one thing to notice. It’s another to guide them to right directions. #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @MandyGrahamOT: @dr_robbrooks Promote attendance at research conferences as the norm. Make sure staff sign up to the UKOTRF fortnightly…
Jenny Hong @OTJennyH
@dr_robbrooks They do both. For students who have an interest, they try to match a topic to their favor. If not staff try their best to provide a research area for the student. From my experience, students weren't aware of the all the areas of OT research when it was time to choose. #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@NikkiDanielsOT same I also forgot it was Tuesday and 8pm and #otalk
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RT @preston_jenny: @dr_robbrooks I have experience as a pre-reg research supervisor @GcuOcc. It is a really positive way to bring real lif…
Student Launch @student_launch
RT @VikkiBarryOT: I think it’s a fundamental part of being a student, being an OT and being part of the profession. The difficulty for most…
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RT @PurcellCath: @DrGillianWard @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ @preston_jenny @GcuOcc I agree, although ethics can be a challenge at BSc level due t…
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RT @_rachelOT: @dr_robbrooks As a student my research experience has been a huge learning curve. I will admit to still feeling clueless! I…
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RT @DrGillianWard: @dr_robbrooks @RobTheOT For me the data collection and analysis experience is part of the excitement of doing research,…
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RT @SophieMaynard8: @_rachelOT @dr_robbrooks I agree, I think some students don't feel they gain a lot from the experience but for those of…
Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8
@preston_jenny @dr_robbrooks I was watching #celebritybakeoff but I'm not sure that counts as multitasking 🙊 #OTalk
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RT @DrGillianWard: @PurcellCath @hooper_ek @dr_robbrooks @OTalk_ We’re offering a research internship @rcot this summer. I agree difficult…
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RT @mrsmcinburtott: @SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks We encourage our BSc students to offer to participate in research projects to experience…
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RT @Lizzie_OT: @mrsmcinburtott @SophieMaynard8 @dr_robbrooks I’ve volunteered to participate in research previously and found it valuable e…
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RT @sue_mesa: @dr_robbrooks I think it’s useful for students to get hands on experience of research - it helps to better understand what th…
Jenny Hong @OTJennyH
@dr_robbrooks @_rachelOT Strong support from the research supervisor is key imo. From my experience, my supervisor was able to guide me and it opened new opportunities/resources in research for the both of us. #otalk
Catherine Purcell @PurcellCath
RT @LynneGoodacre: Often because the emphasis is on 'doing research' rather than understanding research culture, infrastructure, how to dev…
Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT
Many thanks @dr_robbrooks for a great chat. Lots of food for thought #OTalk https://t.co/gTTQwHueFx
Ellen @OTEllenUK
RT @preston_jenny: @dr_robbrooks 1. Start by recognising research skills as equal to clinical skills. 2. Don’t be afraid of graduates with…
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