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CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Let's do this #physiotalk | |
Hannah Willoughby @H20physio Hi I'm Hannah neighbourhood service lead in Somerset #physiotalk | |
Charlotte Hayers @CharlotteHayers #physiotalk Hello I am a Year 3 student looking forward to some information regarding whether rotations will be the best option for me and why 😀 | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 Hi I'm on the @physiotalk account tonight from Edinburgh. I'm a long way out from Band 5 / Junior / Basic grade rotations though :) #physiotalk | |
Abdullah⚕️ @Abdoullwah @physiotalk #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Jolockyear1 @physiotalk Hi Jo. This is Alec #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @Louise_Brennan_ @physiotalk You do get about! #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Great to see people joining from within the south west & beyond. Thanks for joining! #PhysioTalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f #physiotalk Tweeting from Somerset with my cup of tea | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Daleyfurter @physiotalk Hi, yes. Used to be Junior grade here in UK. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @PhysioNaomi @physiotalk Hi Naomi! Alec #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Asqbecca Will be great to get the Scottish perspective, too. Thanks. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @mariand84 @physiotalk Hi, where about? Do you mean in UK? #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk Seeing patients in their home environment and the plus and minus that presents, independent working and time management of course. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Traditionally in the UK, most first jobs on graduation are in acute NHS hospitals for 18 months-2 years. Rotating through different clinical areas. IS this the only way? #physiotalk | |
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk I'm a bamd 5 rotational physio, and I'm really lucky to be in a post which allows me to rotate across different community services as well as the acute hospital #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Furthermore, traditionally physios entered the community after doing acute rotations, but that has changed/is changing. What are people's experiences? #physiotalk | |
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk Yes! I've gone from the front door to the back door in one year which has been really valuable to my understanding of the whole journey. It doesn't stop at hospital discharge! #physiotalk | |
Isabel Chenciner @IChenciner @physiotalk As we move away from hospital centered care, it's important we all become more comfortable with working in the community. Community Rotations enables us to see patients in their home environments, where they spend most of their time and understand their world. #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk It still seems to be implied. The focus needs to change to support the Band 5 development. The community can still offer diversity but also access to specialisms earlier if a physiotherapist wants to develop in a certain area #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Rotating through different clinical areas doesn’t have to just be in acute hospital setting. There is scope for other areas still within the NHS for example. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Jolockyear1 @physiotalk Great, thanks. I suppose the main worry some have is being supported/supervised appropriately, compared to traditional lone working etc. when you are newly qualified #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @AlexSack3 Very interesting view, thanks. #physiotalk | |
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk Rotating into the community have given me a whole new perspective, and I now think I'd be able to make better discharge plans within the hospital when I rotate back in #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Some acute trusts have demanded those applying for band 6 roles have had acute experience etc., from what I have heard. Anyone any experience of similar? #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @physiotalk We certainly utilise as many cardioresp placements in the community as possible. Its pretty equally spread - so does this reflect the B5 opportunities too? #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @physiotalk Happening in Somerset between @SomParNHS and @MusgrovePark #physiotalk | |
Charlotte Hayers @CharlotteHayers If you don’t/can’t get acute experience will this hold you back from future jobs/opportunities? #PhysioTalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk If you’re expected to cover on call as B5 then need experience of acute respiratory. Experience in respiratory can come from other areas + request time to spend on ICU / more acute setting for example to be more confident with acute - but need supportive team lead. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest This is great to hear of so many positive experiences of community B5 rotations. it does appear most of those with experience is of community as part of a larger acute and community rotation. Anyone solely done community? #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk For other rotations - to make a request shows interest in a particular area. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @jackie_burnett @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk @NHSGrampian Yes, absolutely all are valuable and can be in different ways. However, with the fragmented health service, there will be some graduates who can only perhaps experience the community side? #physiotalk | |
Megan Wisson @Physio_Wisso @physiotalk I often hear it referred to as lonely physio with a lack of contact between physios and the wider MDT, however my personal experience has been the complete opposite #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @CharlotteHayers Not necessarily, but that has been the worry for some time and hence the reason why @CSPsouthwest wanted the discussion tonight. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Daleyfurter @physiotalk I would like to think we do our best with a lot of these, but, as always, there is limited time and space to fit everything in. #physiotalk Alec, Programme Lead at Plymouth | |
Megan Wisson @Physio_Wisso @physiotalk The community environment can provide barriers for certain treatment options which physios could otherwise provide if in an acute setting #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk Lack of support from team perhaps - although not experienced. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @LilyJac63989402 That's an interesting view, as a profession we have never had enforced rotations or a pre-registration period like medicine, pharmacy, optometry etc. Accelerated promotion does seem to have increased from my expereince. #physiotalk | |
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Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk I think people can feel like they are de-skilling if they aren't surrounded by a busy environment with machines beeping, but at times in the acute I've felt like a D/C planning machine whereas in the community I'm able to use all my skills #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk Could also depend on the type of community rotation: generic vs more specialist / specific #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @CSPsouthwest @physiotalk Band 6 posts look for experience in the clinical area you are applying for. A static Band 5 MSK post can still give you knowledge and skills in T&O, rheumatology, hands, paediatrics as well as general MSK. You can utilise the opportunities #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @PointingPhysio @physiotalk On your own, but still supervised, in some way, I assume? #physiotalk | |
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk There is also a fear that as a junior, if you don't get acute experience you wont be able to move up the bands. I know someone who got rejected for a band 5 job for not having had any acute placements as a student :( #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk That really frustrates me (as a placement coordinator!) Try to get a mix of placements and as broad a profile as possible for our students - but all placements offer transferable skills! #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @hipsterlife85 @physiotalk Oh, that's a shame, as that was why some of my friends, colleagues and wife (although I only have 1 of those!) moved from acute to community was to have time for actual rehab with patients! #physiotalk | |
Dr Michelle Bull 💙 @MichelleBull4 RT @JoFishpoole: | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @logan_angie @physiotalk @debhubb This is what needs to be highlighted about the potential to provide support in different ways to make it viable. #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk If it’s a rotation then skills learnt helps develop breadth and depth to your clinical reasoning - that has to be a good things for a B6. If you want to continue in community then also good. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest Great discussions everyone. To clarify, we are not intending to have an acute vs. community, who's the best, but highlight that acute rotations are not necessarily the only way! #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @CarylAPhysio @emaroids1 @PhysioAlec @CharlotteHayers I feel it does depend on your interest. Personally I knew I wanted to be an MSK practitioner, I went down the rotation route in an acute Trust. This didn’t change my course, I’ve just been 2 years slower progressing there. #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 A quick google and first B6 job I found certainly has acute work as essential criteria! #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @PhysioArmstrong It was for an hospital rotational post - but included areas such as falls, ortho and stroke where you might think community experience would be a win! #physiotalk | |
Barry Pryer @bmpryer Agree 100% | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @AWinch_Physio @physiotalk That’s appalling, Band 5 posts are meant to focus on developing the physiotherapist. There are always transferable skills in every job role, you need to highlight what you can bring to a role whether you are moving from community to acute or vice versa #physiotalk | |
Megan Wisson @Physio_Wisso @ClaireC_PT @physiotalk Often gym/rehab equipment that could not be taken to a patients home and that they could benefit from if they had the access/desire to attend a community gym for example #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @EdDavis1988 @physiotalk I think one of the key things that distinguishes us from osteopaths and sports therapists etc. is our wider medical and health experience, so appropriate rotations of any kind are key. #physiotalk | |
Megan Wisson @Physio_Wisso @physiotalk Yes yes yes! As long as they seek their own learning opportunities #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk I think that must largely depend on your team lead. In my experience, a good team lead will ensure CPD and supervision time is factored in /arranged - whether it’s acute or community. Also good experience for B5 to manage those things too. #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @emaroids1 @CarylAPhysio @PhysioAlec @CharlotteHayers Slower. It has always been sold as having a rounded approach by carrying out your Band 5 rotations. You can still gain a lot of those knowledge and skills through a static post. MSK can involve T&O, rheum, paeds, pain management, hands, neuro and reap. #physiotalk | |
kate bennett @kategahr_kate RT @AlexMacKenzie11: | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @PointingPhysio @physiotalk Would argue that this is when CPD and the time for this becomes even more important? #physiotalk | |
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @EdDavis1988 @southernscampi @physiotalk But do you really know you want to do MSK from Day 1?! Perhaps 'your' speciality is one you haven't experienced - yet! ##physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest A fantastic example of the value of community rotations. Thanks for sharing #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @EdDavis1988 @southernscampi @physiotalk Is that akin to a neurosurgeon saying similar of their junior rotations? some of the best MSK clinicians I have known have taken their time to specialise in it and always brought a lot from their other experiences. #physiotalk | |
rami abbas @ramiabbas4 RT @helenvyoung: @physiotalk I think that must largely depend on your team lead. In my experience, a good team lead will ensure CPD and supervision time is factored in /arranged - whether it’s acute or community. Also good experience for B5 to manage those things too. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest Yes @AlexMacKenzie11 we completely agree! #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @CSPsouthwest @EdDavis1988 @physiotalk Within a static post there are still opportunities to develop that wider knowledge. At @SomParNHS we have a fantastic Band 5 programme, they could observe ESP’s, FCP’s, APP’s in MIU. We share working with stroke and neuro therapists. Community doesn’t stop choice #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @theLDphysio @physiotalk LOL! Did you get it back? #physiotalk | |
kate bennett @kategahr_kate @physiotalk Sorry...very late joining, I'm Kate former @AGILECSP chair and clinical lead community physio. Crossover with other professions is my answer, easy to dilute skills rather than become a versatilist #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @physiotalk I’ve always found it varied depending on the Trust and the emphasis placed on a motivated and informed workforce, not acute versus community. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @emaroids1 @physiotalk @PhysioAlec @PhysioArmstrong Thanks for joining in! Great discussions this evening. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @Jolockyear1 @physiotalk @theLDphysio You're giving away where you work now! #physiotalk | |
Helen 💙 @helenvyoung @physiotalk I’ve never experienced any challenges to my professional identity in community. More of a challenge in an acute setting sometimes TBH - patients, staff & visitors alike sometimes think we’re nurses. #physiotalk | |
vicky fieldhouse @vics_f @physiotalk That said @SomParNHS CPD is excellent :) Supported Band 5 pathway for new starters Specific Band 5 training 6 weekly 1:1’s Observations Clinical supervision Joint treatment sessions And 90 minute of self CPD time a month #physiotalk #supportingdevelopment | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @EdDavis1988 @theLDphysio @southernscampi @physiotalk Perhaps a more formalised and structured pathway/pre-registration period to specialism etc. is the way to go in general for the profession, although the CSP is not keen on following the Royal Colleges route, AFAIK. #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @EdDavis1988 @theLDphysio @southernscampi @physiotalk Perhaps new developments like the 4-year integrated masters in physiotherapy at some universities may begin some movement? #physiotalk | |
CSP South West @CSPsouthwest @PhysioArmstrong @physiotalk @PhysioAlec Thank you both! And thanks to everyone who joined in. Lots of great discussions & experiences shared. We’re looking forward to reviewing the transcripts #PhysioTalk | |
Anna Collier @AnnaFizz @physiotalk I found the generic working, with minimal training, challenging initially as a community physio and was surprised how much I was expected to push my professional boundaries without competencies to demonstrate I had sufficient skills in that area #physiotalk | |
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