#PhysioTalk Transcript

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Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
Good evening @physiotalk #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
#physiotalk hello from Limerick
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk Hi everyone- hilary here! #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
Evening all! Susan here, physio in Fife #physiotalk
Leah Devlin @Leahdevlin1989
@physiotalk Hello from North Wales .. first time using this so just planning on watching! #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@Leahdevlin1989 @physiotalk That's what we all say on the first time! Don't be afraid to chip in!!! #physiotalk
amanda deaves @ADeaves
#physiotalk Hello all, I’ll be dipping in and out tonight. But will defo catch up later!
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
RT @PhysioArmstrong:
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
A1. Don't work in an exclusively neuro setting but yes, yes it is. #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
Looking forward to #physiotalk (Cape Town 10pm) My passion, neurology, the complex dynamic sensorineuromotor system that allows us to integrate mind & body in function through life Can we move from problem focus eg falls prevention to enhancing structure+performance+Wellbeing?
Andy MacKellar @madonblizzard
RT @saeboukglyn:
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
Althought, personally don't like the word 'routine'. #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@physiotalk #physiotalk can't speak for qualified physios, but it's definitely something that us #students don't focus on enough! @thecspstudents
Darragh Mc Gee @DMGPhysio
@RebsPartridge @physiotalk For falls assessment I have use the tinetti test and berg balance test in placement #PhysioTalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
#physiotalk Q1 we are inpatient rehab - I think we ask all patients about falls history, but are less 'routine' with falls screening/assessment
Susan Coote @susancoote
unfortunately none of the objective measures are good at identifying people with #MS who fall #physiotalk
LifeTimeShine @LifeTimeShine
RT @PamKHphysio: Looking forward to #physiotalk (Cape Town 10pm) My passion, neurology, the complex dynamic sensorineuromotor system that allows us to integrate mind & body in function through life Can we move from problem focus eg falls prevention to enhancing structure+performance+Wellbeing?
Leah Devlin @Leahdevlin1989
@physiotalk Yes .. falls screening/ assessment tools used with most neuro outpatients #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk Tricky though- the ‘f word’ conversations can be full of ‘well yes, no, maybes... when is a slip, trip, stumble a fall etc! #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @ADentonPU @physiotalk Me too!!! I’m having a bit of a thing with miniBEST .... #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
@bendotellis @DonnchaLanePT @ADentonPU @physiotalk i'm also a BEST - well mini BEST fan , but i'm not sure there is any evidence for its predictive validity for falls in MS? #physiotalk
Andy MacKellar @madonblizzard
@ADentonPU @physiotalk not here or at Manchester where I worked before #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@physiotalk @DonnchaLanePT @ADentonPU #physiotalk how regularly would you define as 'routine' in a clinical setting?
Susan Coote @susancoote
@bendotellis @DonnchaLanePT @ADentonPU @physiotalk Completely agree, it's not just about balance, lots of interacting factors #physiotalk
Andy MacKellar @madonblizzard
@physiotalk @ACPIN_SW would be good if folks put up a definition #physiotalk
CornwallChatter @CornwallChatter
RT @logan_angie:
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
#physiotalk been here about 15 minutes and already learning loads, such an inspiring community! Grateful that us baby physios can learn so much form the experienced! 😂 https://t.co/j1xTN3I9RW
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@PamKHphysio We like to discuss ‘safe mobility’ #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@physiotalk #physiotalk (Cape Town 10pm) My passion neurology, the complex dynamic sensorineuromotor system that allows us to integrate mind & body in function through life Can we move from problem focus eg falls prevention to enhancing Structure+Performance+Confidence+Wellbeing?
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
The overriding falls risk factor = bipedal (or monopedal!) ambulation #physiotalk https://t.co/hbOLpiZHZz
Susan Coote @susancoote
Q2 having a previous fall is probably the best indicator of increased fall risk #physiotalk
Jive Hampshire @jivehampshire
RT @PhysioNatalie:
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@DonnchaLanePT @VickiG_physio #physiotalk I agree, the screening tools can highlight individuals strengths, therefore inform our 'rehab' suggestions/options
Jive Manchester @JiveManchester
RT @madonblizzard: @ADentonPU @physiotalk not here or at Manchester where I worked before #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
Management of falls #physiotalk https://t.co/cAc0Asw5rZ
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @ADentonPU @physiotalk We have used it to guide/ tailor treatment in our MS falls trial- great to highlight various balance components!! Our fab tech built us one!! #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
@CJNeuroPhysio @DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk @ADentonPU psychosocial aspects v important to measure, and can be risk factors in themselves #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
@MunfordDanielle @hilsgunn @DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk and many wont "admit" to falling in case people stop them from doing what they want to #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@physiotalk History taking, understanding of pathology, objective assessment (power, ROM, balance, function, cognition, sensory impairment), and so on. But determining the 'level' of risk isn't really the aim. #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@MunfordDanielle @DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk Absolutely- plus pavements, cats, dogs, weather etc- external focussed #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@bendotellis @_JoeMiddleton Indeed! Something we all need to remember (and something I've asked my students too!) #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@bendotellis @_JoeMiddleton #physiotalk just makes you think twice about the underlying cause of a fall. Sometimes more difficult to pinpoint than it seems
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@Jolockyear1 Also, consider a collapse and transient amnesia, especially if patient says; 'um, I must have fallen?' #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@PhysioArmstrong Not at all - backward chaining! #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
#physiotalk ! https://t.co/WFL3NLKoqj
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk Completely agree- and always try and avoid the flippant ‘I wont let you fall- it’s too much paperwork ‘ comment- it was amazing how powerfully that stayed with participants in @MunfordDanielle research #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@PhysioArmstrong Already exists as a management strategy; backward chaining. All our ambulant stroke patients are taught to get off the floor through this technique #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@VickiG_physio @DonnchaLanePT @Jolockyear1 @ADentonPU @physiotalk Tee hee! I did two weeks of falls research assessments with a black eye from a fall in March- good conversation starter! #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@physiotalk #physiotalk @physiotalk People whose balance is even slightly disturbed, anyone with a fear of falling, left hemiplegics as modulation, strategising & perception are all compromised They're not aware of the complexities of the problem but believe they can do what needs to be done
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@hilsgunn @DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk @MunfordDanielle #physiotalk this ties in so well with Good Conversations training I was on this afternoon. Thank you for reminding me.....our team are guilty of using that quote
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
RT @Jolockyear1:
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@bendotellis No, multi factorial exercise interventions are best. Need to challenge the perceptions around strength training and resistance exercises for older people though. As for chair-based exercises.... #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@JonnieMcC @physiotalk I always look at shoes! (and a lot of other things as well.....) #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@Jolockyear1 #physiotalk wishing I had a neuro placement coming up so I could learn a little more about these fall tests and management techniques
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@JanetThomas47 @ACPIN_SW @JonnieMcC @physiotalk Ah yes, the soles and insoles of shoes can tell a 1,000 stories! #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@JonnieMcC @physiotalk Identify deficits that may contribute to a patient falling, and then address them. #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
Q3 mutifactorial is the way to go for #MS too, bladder dysfunction, spasticity, weakness, dual task problems - all need to be part of strength and specific balance exs prog #physiotalk
Kate Mccoy @physiocyclekate
Totally agree - the same as I do any faller plus lots of on / off floor . https://t.co/xEwFiQ88mx
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk could someone briefly explain / define Backward Chaining for us #students? 😮
Darragh Mc Gee @DMGPhysio
@physiotalk Likely won't know if our management is fully effective until the patient is back into their home and everyday environment. Here is where the importance of community physiotherapy and home adaptions lies #Physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@PhysioArmstrong Technically, as you didn't already know about it, you just invented it!!!! #physiotalk https://t.co/dmS8u4bhjQ
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@PhysioArmstrong @JanetThomas47 @ACPIN_SW @JonnieMcC @physiotalk Patterns of wear. Classic is the hole in the slipper where the big toe nail has cut through it. Usually due to a 'shuffling' gait. #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@bendotellis @DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk @MunfordDanielle We have found using a ‘challenge scale’ like a VAS of wobbliness has worked quite well to help people skirt the challenge/ risk line #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@hilsgunn @physiotalk #Physiotalk @hilsgunn Safe mobility & safe falling too Also safe descent onto the ground & up again & safe sitting down and standing up NOT just discussion but using experiential learning in the context of 'family' in their home environment
Susan Coote @susancoote
@DonnchaLanePT @ACPIN_SW Not many of them out there, we found Community integration measure somewhat responsive to routine physio #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @DMGPhysio @physiotalk How many people collect data on falls frequency ? It’s tricky to do... but valuable from a commissioner perspective.... #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@physiotalk #Physiotalk @hilsgunn Safe mobility & safe falling too Also safe descent onto the ground & up again & safe sitting down and standing up NOT just discussion but using experiential learning in the context of 'family' in their home environment
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
Fear of falling - one of the most common things on my problem lists! #physiotalk https://t.co/44qvyHNTh1
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@bendotellis @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk perfect thanks Ben!
Susan Coote @susancoote
@hilsgunn @DonnchaLanePT @DMGPhysio @physiotalk And is it retrospective recall (which probably isn't that accurate) or prospective diaries (which are tedious to keep for long enough)? #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@gavoyannis @saeboukglyn We learn as much (if not more) from you guys! #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
RT @hilsgunn: @gavoyannis @saeboukglyn We learn as much (if not more) from you guys! #physiotalk
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
RT @physiotalk:
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@hilsgunn @saeboukglyn #physiotalk it's great to see such an active and inclusive community! It really inspires all of us to work harder, we have big boots to fill!
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@Blaithin_H @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk is this used to prevent the chance of a fall in the case of a patient losing balance or feeling sudden fatigue?
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @susancoote @DMGPhysio @physiotalk The holy grail of us falls nerds is an accelerometer that knows the difference between a fall and a sudden sit down.... #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
@DonnchaLanePT @hilsgunn @DMGPhysio @physiotalk we are working with IT in UL on an app, will keep you posted #physiotalk
Kate Mccoy @physiocyclekate
@physiotalk Kate from South Wales . Rather late #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@physiotalk #physiotalk I can't keep up! Thank goodness for transcripts. Now to work out where/how to access them #gettingthere #everydaysaschoolday
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@physiotalk @DonnchaLanePT @susancoote @hilsgunn @DMGPhysio There are telecare falls sensors (I assume that have an accelerometer/gyrometer in them) aren't there? Don't know if they can be used to record and tally falls? #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@susancotton18 @physiotalk Are you on Tweetdeck?? #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@Blaithin_H @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk ahh okay I see. Is there anyway that this can be adapted for situations where a chair, or some form of brace, isn't available?
Leah Devlin @Leahdevlin1989
@JanetThomas47 @susancotton18 @physiotalk I need to get this for next time .. also struggling to keep track #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk Absolutely! Again ... I try and talk ‘safe mobility’ - ie more of what you want to do without being gung ho- thinking about being realistic and looking for small wins to build/ maintain motivation- falls progs are hard work #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@JanetThomas47 @physiotalk yes :) lesson learned from experience - don't use your mobile for tweetchatting #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@susancotton18 @physiotalk NEVER! #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@Jolockyear1 #physiotalk from a non #AHP standpoint, I always remember being taken back by how much of a hit it has on the confidence of the person who suffered a fall. Had huge implications on social interaction and willingness to stay mobile
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@physiotalk @SophiaHulbert One of the great oxymoron's of modern healthcare! #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@Leahdevlin1989 @JanetThomas47 @physiotalk just pop tweetdeck into your search engine and log into twitter from there. Def makes a difference #physiotalk
Kate Mccoy @physiocyclekate
@physiotalk Well if it directly addresses their concerns . In the long term they have to maintain activity , exercise themselves and understand their own risks . #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@ACPIN_SW @physiotalk #Physiotalk Underlying problem for all stroke patients is asymmetry and imbalance (NOT a good and a bad side) but all populations are looking for optimal function Process starts with optimising base of support then working to promote balance & alignment in functional activity
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@PhysioArmstrong @MunfordDanielle @physiotalk There’s been some in the US/ Canada in MS but limited evaluation so far #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@VickiG_physio @Blaithin_H @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk is there any write-up on this? Would love to read a bit more about it!
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@PhysioArmstrong @MunfordDanielle @physiotalk Completely!! Absolutely key- with evidence from a range of conditions to support #physiotalk
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
@physiotalk Falling over really hurts generally speaking, as a relative of a faller due to progressive neurology I’m guilty of reducing risk through aids & adaptations which it seems reduces the challenge to balance skills & predisposes falling -it’s a fine line safety vs ability #physiotalk
Edward Walsh @EdWalshh
@SophiaHulbert @physiotalk Have to weigh up activity + participation engagement with risk management. This will be pt specific - getting the right balance is key 😏 #physiotalk
Edward Walsh @EdWalshh
RT @HulsePhilip: @physiotalk Falling over really hurts generally speaking, as a relative of a faller due to progressive neurology I’m guilty of reducing risk through aids & adaptations which it seems reduces the challenge to balance skills & predisposes falling -it’s a fine line safety vs ability #physiotalk
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk @bendotellis @DonnchaLanePT @MunfordDanielle Sure- simple 1-5 scale of 1no challenge- 5 falling, patients tailor ex (with support) to ensure they are always working at 3/5 #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@Blaithin_H @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk this is where #OTs come into fall management in a huge way! Also really hoping 'bum shuffle' is a clinical term 😂
Susan Coote @susancoote
@MunfordDanielle @physiotalk They don't like "falls prevention" in the title, our programme is called "better balance" balancing life, while improving balance #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@VickiG_physio @Blaithin_H @PhysioArmstrong @RebsPartridge #physiotalk awesome thank you!
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@HulsePhilip @physiotalk Managing falls with progressive neuromuscular disease can be particularly tricky #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk But many avoid! A really important area #Physiotalk
Edward Walsh @EdWalshh
RT @PlymUniPhysio:
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk Generally we need more evidence across the board! I find (as in other conditions) any cognitive elements always add a whole new level of complexity... #physiotalk
Sophie Stubbings MCSP MSc @SophieStubbings
RT @VickiG_physio:
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@physiotalk @SophiaHulbert #physiotalk big challenge in our in patient area - mixed messages from within the MD- PT encouraging independence with risks minimised, others looking for stationary, immobile totally risk free environment. 'call don't fall' posters everywhere leading to dependence:(
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk And Quick gains if you identify/ treat BPPV #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@physiotalk @physiotalk #Physiotalk Patients & their families are terrified of falls & really enjoy seeing confidence grow & sense of self restored as the person learns how to see challenges as problem solving opportunities, become more resilient, find new ways to build strengths
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
@physiotalk It depends, how do you know how frequently the individual would have fallen without training? I haven’t improved with training vs I haven’t deteriorated because I’ve trained. #physiotalk
Susan Coote @susancoote
@gcliffordPT @physiotalk is the BEST maybe an exception to that - does a good job of unpicking cause of poor balance, while measuring #physiotalk
Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk Same for all physiotherapists working with older people. Something we are looking to up-skill in aren't we @chlocus (any tips on good resources/courses are welcomed Donncha!) #physiotalk
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
RT @VickiG_physio:
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@DonnchaLanePT @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk @chlocus @acpivr And they did a supplement a couple of years ago accessible to @agilecsp members as well #Physiotalk
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
RT @bendotellis:
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
RT @VickiG_physio:
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk Tricky isn’t it? I think we are circling back to the point that falls are complex, multifactorial and we need to use all our skills #physiotalk
Susan Cotton @susancotton18
@physiotalk #physiotalk phew!
Hilary Gunn @hilsgunn
@physiotalk Thanks everyone! #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@physiotalk @ACPIN_SW @RebsPartridge @Jolockyear1 @PlymUniPhysio #physiotalk huge thanks, really nice to learn some new terms and perspectives, but also just to get a bit of inspiration from the community
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@physiotalk Would love to host a #physiotalk about PT school and student physiotherapy if you have a free slot next year!
Edward Walsh @EdWalshh
Big well done to @Jolockyear1 and @RebsPartridge for their part in what was a very engaging #physiotalk - doing @PlymUniPhysio proud!
Leah Devlin @Leahdevlin1989
RT @hilsgunn: @physiotalk Thanks everyone! #physiotalk
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
@PhysioArmstrong #physiotalk the more the merrier! Lets see if we can get some of @thecspstudents on board
George Gavoyannis @gavoyannis
RT @physiotalk:
Susan Coote @susancoote
RT @PhysioNatalie:
Susan Coote @susancoote
RT @bendotellis:
Susan Coote @susancoote
@physiotalk That hour just flew by :-) thanks everyone #physiotalk
Pamela Kipps Hansford @PamKHphysio
@DonnchaLanePT @physiotalk #physiotalk Excellent summary takes us back to need to focus on proactive goal setting using Rothstein's HOAC How can we enable people to 'do more & better' of what they want & need to do & empower them to regain centre of control, sense of self & engage with others?
Philip Hulse @HulsePhilip
@physiotalk @SophiaHulbert For me staying safe means swimming and spinning as opposed to running. Pilates instead of body pump. Cross training instead of cycling. Importance of maintaining strength and physical fitness & the many other body & mind benefits of exercise to health and well being. #physiotalk
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