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Welcome to the #obsm chat. Tonight we're discussing the pros and cons of #BariatricSurgery, including potential #complications and what to do about them. Many thanks to @NeilFlochMD for drafting our blog and chat questions this month.
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Please take a minute to introduce yourself. Even if only planning to "lurk" (read along without commenting) it’s helpful knowing the faces in the audience :-) Please note #obsm chats do not serve as medical advice. We will introduce the first question in a few minutes.
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
Join the conversation #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts tonight! Arghavan Salles from @WashUBariatric here. #obsm
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Thanks also to @TurnerandPage for all the behind-the-scenes chat magic! #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
#obsm This is Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@obsmchat Pediatrician in SC, using motivational interviewing and every resource I can find to help families in my community. #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat Waving hello from rainy California #OBSM pals, Michelle "Shelly" #BariatricSurgery Post-Op, @ObesityAction Coalition Board Member, Patient Advocate 👋🏽 #OACAction taker
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
Excited for another #obsm tweet chat on #obesity! Renee Hilton joining from @AUG_Health @MCG_Surgery
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: Welcome to the #obsm chat. Tonight we're discussing the pros and cons of #BariatricSurgery, including potential #complications and what to do about them. Many thanks to @NeilFlochMD for drafting our blog and chat questions this month.
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@obsmchat @NeilFlochMD Hello obsm chatters... I am back. Bariatric patient. #obsm #tellyourbariatricstory
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@Eggface @ObesityAction Hi Shelly! #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat Hello all, patient advocate from Canada, bariatric patient, and Kinesiologist with background in obesity research, looking forward to the chat #Obsm
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@reneehilton30 @AUG_Health @MCG_Surgery So glad you're able to be here! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@WohaibiMD @obsmchat Glad you could join! #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
This is @NeilFlochMD and I look forward to a great discussion tonight #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd @obsmchat Welcome! #obsm
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@txkyleharris @NeilFlochMD Yes! Great to have patients participating! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@reneehilton30 @AUG_Health @MCG_Surgery Thanks for joining, Renee! #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @obsmchat: Please take a minute to introduce yourself. Even if only planning to "lurk" (read along without commenting) it’s helpful knowing the faces in the audience :-) Please note #obsm chats do not serve as medical advice. We will introduce the first question in a few minutes.
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
Hi everyone. Janet Childerhose, medical anthropologist. What you may not know is that I also trained in philosophy of science. So I'm interested in probing our assumptions & terms. What do we mean by #complications? What are they, and who has them? #ontology #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris @obsmchat @NeilFlochMD Great to see you here again! #obsm
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Let's get the discussion going! Please remember to tag all tweets with #obsm so we can see them! Here's the first question. #obsm https://t.co/852kAvFbvA
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat Thanks for joining us! #obsm
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@WohaibiMD Good to see you! #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat @NeilFlochMD #obsm chat! Let’s get in to #BariatricSurgery #complications. Definitely on my mind after that emergency surgery this week! Bariatric Surgeon at @AUG_Health with @reneehilton30
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: Let's get the discussion going! Please remember to tag all tweets with #obsm so we can see them! Here's the first question. #obsm https://t.co/852kAvFbvA
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@JEChilderhose Good to see you Janet! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@PitchfordMd @obsmchat Welcome! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose Great to have you join us, Janet! #obsm
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@IanPatton55 Love having our northern neighbors on board. Welcome! #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@obsmchat Nice to be here & join in a #obsm chat.
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
Good evening #obsm @bruce_y_lee here: https://t.co/CkhnE4y87x https://t.co/xVQOIsQFl2
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@DrAaronBolduc @NeilFlochMD @AUG_Health @reneehilton30 Wonderful! Thanks for joining! #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD Hello @NeilFlochMD ! #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm #tellyourbariatricstory
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@PitchfordMd Nice to see you! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
As a surgeon, I always have a hard time with this. I like to give patients a nearly thorough listing of possible complications for procedures. But I'm not sure that's actually helpful to them. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
The risks of surgery do not out weigh the benefits of #BariatricSurgery #obsm
Prisma Health–Upstate Dept. of Surgery @PH_Surgery
A1: great question. In a nutshell: No #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee Thanks for joining, Bruce! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @txkyleharris: @obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm #tellyourbariatricstory
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@bruce_y_lee Hi Bruce! Glad you're here! #obsm
Heather Logghe, MD @LoggheMD
👇🏻 #obsm chat, happening now 👍🏻 #BariatricSurgery #SurgTweeting #PatientExperience
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
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@ZHeatherChamp So glad you made it Heather! #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bruce_y_lee Hello @bruce_y_lee ! Great to see you. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@ghs_surgery Can you please explain why you don't think the benefits outweigh the risk? Data suggest that for most patients they do. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat This really is a person by person issue, for some maybe, for some no. Bariatric surgery is not for everyone but has saved many lives, #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @LoggheMD: 👇🏻 #obsm chat, happening now 👍🏻 #BariatricSurgery #SurgTweeting #PatientExperience
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RT @reneehilton30: The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @reneehilton30: The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q1: in the SOS study there were many more deaths from #cancer in people who did not have #bariatricsurgery- #obsm https://t.co/QBmNB9wo4g
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@arghavan_salles And I’m sure it makes it even more daunting for those patients that do their research. #obsm #tellyourbariatricstory
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
Q1: For most patients the benefits of bariatric surgery outweigh the risks. However, the decision needs to be made on an individual basis. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q1: The SOS study shows us that the risk of NOT having #bariatricsurgery and #dieting is that at 15 years people are 33% more likely to die - Sjostrom 2007 @NEJM - #obsm https://t.co/1PgRdoai38
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@obsmchat I would think benefits would far outweigh risks but risks need to be taken seriously, especially when considering surgery for adolescents. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat The short term risks of surgery are lower than having your gallbladder removed! That is thanks to the focus on quality improvements from @asmbs for our field. #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q1: Q1: in the SOS study there were many more deaths from #cancer in people who did not have #bariatricsurgery- #obsm https://t.co/QBmNB9wo4g
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
A1: I think that there are always inherent risks in any surgery & the population being operated on is also a high-risk population. Still the best overall treatment. #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
A1 - Risk/benefit ratio of undergoing major surgery should be in the patient's favor. With that being said, mortality is <1% for patients undergoing bariatric surgery within 30 days. It should be seriously considered for those in need. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris Exactly. We cannot accurately predict who will have problems, so it's important to share what is possible. However, that may end up scaring away people who would benefit from bariatric surgery. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat Yes, it is. Not one size fits all. I believe this is where some resistance comes from. And lack of recognition of how serious severe obesity is for some, including #adolescents. It's just not on the radar for some. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q1: Q1: The SOS study shows us that the risk of NOT having #bariatricsurgery and #dieting is that at 15 years people are 33% more likely to die - Sjostrom 2007 @NEJM - #obsm https://t.co/1PgRdoai38
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @obsmchat The short term risks of surgery are lower than having your gallbladder removed! That is thanks to the focus on quality improvements from @asmbs for our field. #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
It’s always an individual decision, that’s why we must help patients to learn the details about the risks and the benefits #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @txkyleharris: @arghavan_salles And I’m sure it makes it even more daunting for those patients that do their research. #obsm #tellyourbariatricstory
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@profbdcohen Hi Brian! Good to see you! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs This is correct! The risk of dying within 30 days of surgery is about the same for bariatric surgery as it is for gallbladder removal. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @profbdcohen: A1: A1: I think that there are always inherent risks in any surgery & the population being operated on is also a high-risk population. Still the best overall treatment. #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: The risks of surgery do not out weigh the benefits of #BariatricSurgery #obsm
Carlos Zerrweck @zerrweck
In trained hands and well selected patients, the risk of a #Bariatric proceudre is similar than a cholecystectomy #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @CJMannMD: A1 - Risk/benefit ratio of undergoing major surgery should be in the patient's favor. With that being said, mortality is <1% for patients undergoing bariatric surgery within 30 days. It should be seriously considered for those in need. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
Also, hi everyone! #bariatricsurgery patient, obesity researcher, professor. #RNY #OBSM
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
RT @LoggheMD: 👇🏻 #obsm chat, happening now 👍🏻 #BariatricSurgery #SurgTweeting #PatientExperience
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@CJMannMD Thanks for joining Crystal! #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
The risk lies in NOT having surgery as the long term risks of #cancer are much higher if patients don’t lose weight #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
RT @reneehilton30: The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #OBSM The skill & experience of the surgeon & the team probably affects the answer
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@CJMannMD Crystal, does there need to be better translation of the relative risks in language that makes sense for public? For PCPs? I think this is where some of where the controversy lies: distortion of risk. And that to me is a translation challenge. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
Q1: As @NeilFlochMD wrote in the blog, the Swedish Obesity Study has shown that those who have obesity and do not have bariatric surgery are likely to die sooner than those who have bariatric surgery. #obsm
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RT @JEChilderhose: @IanPatton55 @obsmchat Yes, it is. Not one size fits all. I believe this is where some resistance comes from. And lack of recognition of how serious severe obesity is for some, including #adolescents. It's just not on the radar for some. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @zerrweck: In trained hands and well selected patients, the risk of a #Bariatric proceudre is similar than a cholecystectomy #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q1: Q1: The SOS study shows us that the risk of NOT having #bariatricsurgery and #dieting is that at 15 years people are 33% more likely to die - Sjostrom 2007 @NEJM - #obsm https://t.co/1PgRdoai38
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen Great to see you here again! #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
I do feel that the evidence supports that it is the only viable option when patients need to lose a significant amount of weight and have failed #diet change #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @ghs_surgery Can you please explain why you don't think the benefits outweigh the risk? Data suggest that for most patients they do. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @reneehilton30: The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@ZHeatherChamp @txkyleharris What do you guys think should be shared with patients prior to bariatric surgery? How much did you want to know? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @LoggheMD: 👇🏻 #obsm chat, happening now 👍🏻 #BariatricSurgery #SurgTweeting #PatientExperience
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@zerrweck Happy you could join the chat! #obsm
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
A1. The balance of risks vs benefits depends on the individual, but by the time patients make it into our #bariatric program, they’ve typically debated for months or years and determined that the long-term risks of NOT having surgery are greater than short term risks. #obsm
iamabariatricpatient @JeanineMSherman
@obsmchat Hello everyone Jeanine Sherman from Mi. Bariatric patient, patient advocate.#obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @Eggface: For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
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RT @Eggface: For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@ZHeatherChamp @arghavan_salles @txkyleharris I did research beforehand but I had old sources. I was convinced that the mortality rate was ~10%. I actually asked my surgeon what her mortality rate was and she looked at me like I was from outer space. Having the right information is key. #obsm
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Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD Neil, I'd like to probe on this. I'm writing a commentary about the need for surgeons to educate clinicians about #BariatricSurgery surgery. Because I believe the evidence doesn't speak for itself. Do surgeons have time to educate PCPs? Pediatricians? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Mortality increases dramatically over 15 years in patients who do not have #bariatricsurgery #obsm
Ronnal Vargas MD Msc FASMBS @ronnalvargas
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q1: Q1: The SOS study shows us that the risk of NOT having #bariatricsurgery and #dieting is that at 15 years people are 33% more likely to die - Sjostrom 2007 @NEJM - #obsm https://t.co/1PgRdoai38
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat This really is a person by person issue, for some maybe, for some no. Bariatric surgery is not for everyone but has saved many lives, #obsm
iamabariatricpatient @JeanineMSherman
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @Eggface: For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
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@JeanineMSherman Welcome Jeanine! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrGoodpaster This has been my experience as well. If anything, my patients commonly say they wish they had had surgery sooner. #obsm
Carlos Zerrweck @zerrweck
There’s always a risk, but acting fast makes a difference in outcomes.. mortality has to be extremely rare! 0.1% #obsm #obsmchat
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JeanineMSherman @obsmchat Hi, Jeanine! #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
RT @arghavan_salles: @ZHeatherChamp @txkyleharris What do you guys think should be shared with patients prior to bariatric surgery? How much did you want to know? #obsm
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RT @DrGoodpaster: A1. The balance of risks vs benefits depends on the individual, but by the time patients make it into our #bariatric program, they’ve typically debated for months or years and determined that the long-term risks of NOT having surgery are greater than short term risks. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@arghavan_salles @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs But I don't believe this is widely understood, amongst public or PCPs. What do surveys show? #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@arghavan_salles Thanks! Glad to be back. Sorry I was late to the conversation tonight- I was actually out to dinner (something that #RNY patients should be told- you don't have to give up a social life and eating out; it's just different). #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen @ZHeatherChamp @txkyleharris This is a great point. Not everything available on the internet is true... #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Actually there is data showing that it is less than gallbladder surgery - #bariatricsurgery #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @zerrweck: In trained hands and well selected patients, the risk of a #Bariatric proceudre is similar than a cholecystectomy #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@ZHeatherChamp @arghavan_salles I researched for 2 years. Benefits outweighed the risks dramatically for me. 50+ BMI, 3 co-morbidities, 430+ lbs. couldnt walk 50ft or tie my own shoes without getting winded. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs This is correct! The risk of dying within 30 days of surgery is about the same for bariatric surgery as it is for gallbladder removal. #obsm
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A question for the group too! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD We do this pretty routinely. #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@ZHeatherChamp @arghavan_salles @txkyleharris 100% yes. I am convinced no one had ever asked her that before. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: The risk lies in NOT having surgery as the long term risks of #cancer are much higher if patients don’t lose weight #obsm
John David Scott MD @jdscottmd
As a society, benefits far outweigh the risk, but always tailor the conversation to the individual patient. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs I like this analogy...but, I think most patients don't have experience w/ gallbladder surgery. Do we need to generate other risk analogies? #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm more complications may emerge from those who do not have the experience, skill, or qualifications, which may then tilt averages
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD Can you give examples? What does this education look like? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs I think you are right that not everyone is aware of these data. There are many misconceptions out there, based on very old data. #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@arghavan_salles @ZHeatherChamp I want to know it all. I need all info available to make best decision for me #obsm
John Rodriguez @johnrodriguezMD
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat For me it was. I chose the helping hand of #BariatricSurgery RNY to treat my #obesity and it resulted in resolution of my #sleepapnea severe #GERD, High BP, off all Rx's, the bonus was 150+#'s lost but the health gains were tremendous #obsm https://t.co/wupPAibfoa
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
I believe risk of death and complications are important to every patient #bariatricsurgery #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen No worries! Glad you could make it :). #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrGoodpaster: A1. The balance of risks vs benefits depends on the individual, but by the time patients make it into our #bariatric program, they’ve typically debated for months or years and determined that the long-term risks of NOT having surgery are greater than short term risks. #obsm
John Rodriguez @johnrodriguezMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: It’s always an individual decision, that’s why we must help patients to learn the details about the risks and the benefits #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @txkyleharris: @ZHeatherChamp @arghavan_salles I researched for 2 years. Benefits outweighed the risks dramatically for me. 50+ BMI, 3 co-morbidities, 430+ lbs. couldnt walk 50ft or tie my own shoes without getting winded. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@NeilFlochMD True, evidence suggests that, however it’s not a scaleable treatment, there will never be enough surgeries done to make a dent in the obesity problem, hopefully one day there are other options as well #obsm
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@jdscottmd Nice to have you here! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris @ZHeatherChamp Yes, there are so many benefits to bariatric surgery! For many patients, high blood pressure, diabetes, sleep apnea, etc. get better. And they also have more energy and are able to be more active. #obsm
John David Scott MD @jdscottmd
A2: I like to use some of the risk assessment apps available online like the MBSC risk calculator and the Cleveland clinic tools. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
A2. 1/ Short term complications include bleeding, infection, staple line leak, VTE, stenosis, and any complications associated with anesthesia. Most complications can be managed conservatively; however, reoperation may be indicated. #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
@JEChilderhose I think so. A common perception is that there is almost no associated risk which is false. The level of risk depends on multiple factors. It is hard for anyone (other than the surgeon) to really convey risk since it can be fairly individualized. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@jdscottmd Agree completely! #obsm
hrdlckwmn @hrdlckwmn
#obsmchat #obsm I researched for 4 years before the stars aligned for my RNY. I did NOT research long term patients who had complications after 4+years. If I had found a large #, I doubt my mind would have changed.
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@arghavan_salles @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs Okay. More surveys. Now I'm morphing from a philosopher of science into a survey methodologist (or fan of) #obsm #beempirical #Data #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
We will not resolve #obesity with surgery but we can resolve or improve it in individuals #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm more complications may emerge from those who do not have the experience, skill, or qualifications, which may then tilt averages
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@NeilFlochMD I also think that a good surgeon (and I love mine) is not afraid to lay the risks out there, no matter how small the chance might be. The anesthesia was a bigger concern for me than the actual procedure. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @txkyleharris: @ZHeatherChamp @arghavan_salles I researched for 2 years. Benefits outweighed the risks dramatically for me. 50+ BMI, 3 co-morbidities, 430+ lbs. couldnt walk 50ft or tie my own shoes without getting winded. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm Studies have shown that quality post-surgical care makes a big difference https://t.co/AjDT8FAimC
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs It's true not all patients have had their gallbladder out, but it's such a common procedure many people know someone who has had it done, I think. What do you think might be a better comparison? #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
RT @arghavan_salles: Q1: Q1: As @NeilFlochMD wrote in the blog, the Swedish Obesity Study has shown that those who have obesity and do not have bariatric surgery are likely to die sooner than those who have bariatric surgery. #obsm
John Rodriguez @johnrodriguezMD
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD @JEChilderhose I agree that there is still a gap between surgeons and clinicians regarding risks and benefits of #bariatric surgery. We need to do more... #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
@JEChilderhose We do educate and try to as much as possible my partners and I give 9 live seminars a month #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @jdscottmd: As a society, benefits far outweigh the risk, but always tailor the conversation to the individual patient. #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@obsmchat The education for pediatricians is starting to get out there. Definitely more presentations at @AmerAcadPeds meetings in the past year or two. @SC_AAP would be a case in point. Live and phone presentations. But still more needed. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
@bonuslife Glad you made it Walt! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat The training for bariatric surgeons is pretty rigorous, and to get certified by @asmbs is a reasonably high bar. The health of the patient is probably the best overall predictor of risk of complications, including tobacco, steroids, NSAIDs, etc. #obsm
Hippocrates News @HippocratesNews
RT @NeilFlochMD: The risk lies in NOT having surgery as the long term risks of #cancer are much higher if patients don’t lose weight #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@arghavan_salles @JEChilderhose @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs Appendectomy? #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Studies have shown that quality post-surgical care makes a big difference https://t.co/AjDT8FAimC
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @Eggface: Join the conversation #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD I don't know about everyone else, but in our practice we go give talks to different practices. Usually safety data are part of the talk. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat The training for bariatric surgeons is pretty rigorous, and to get certified by @asmbs is a reasonably high bar. The health of the patient is probably the best overall predictor of risk of complications, including tobacco, steroids, NSAIDs, etc. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat #obsm Q2: short and long term complications. Short term: Leak, Blood clot/DVT/PE, heart attack, awesome origin story,having too many extra medications that you don’t need anymore #wls Long term: internal hernias, marginal ulcers, gatrogastric fistula, super hero powers
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat The training for bariatric surgeons is pretty rigorous, and to get certified by @asmbs is a reasonably high bar. The health of the patient is probably the best overall predictor of risk of complications, including tobacco, steroids, NSAIDs, etc. #obsm
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
@arghavan_salles Same here, though I always say that it’s about not just about whether bariatric surgery is the right choice, but also if it’s the right time. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @johnrodriguezMD: @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD @JEChilderhose I agree that there is still a gap between surgeons and clinicians regarding risks and benefits of #bariatric surgery. We need to do more... #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
A2: In terms of long term complications my wife has struggled with anemia caused by malabsorption. Some of the more avoidable ones like dumping or alcohol sensitivity have to be experienced to really understand. #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD Yes! or to refer patients to those that are specialists in #obesity medicine because patients suffer when they are told "you really need to lose weight" and sent on their way, I "dieted" most of my adult life. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@CJMannMD So I think this is a challenge to public / PCP endorsement. Do #surgeons need to put more time & energy into translation and communication of risk? Do we have any #risk scientists in the house? #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @greenhousemd: @obsmchat The education for pediatricians is starting to get out there. Definitely more presentations at @AmerAcadPeds meetings in the past year or two. @SC_AAP would be a case in point. Live and phone presentations. But still more needed. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q2: The risks of #gastricsleeve #vsg are the following: #obsm https://t.co/5hI0diQWXT
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat Need to consider complications for the patient beyond basic medical issues, mental health comes to mind, how are you gonna manage the total mind mess that comes with being suddenly thin after a life of seeing something different in the mirror #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @arghavan_salles: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat The training for bariatric surgeons is pretty rigorous, and to get certified by @asmbs is a reasonably high bar. The health of the patient is probably the best overall predictor of risk of complications, including tobacco, steroids, NSAIDs, etc. #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Studies have shown that quality post-surgical care makes a big difference https://t.co/AjDT8FAimC
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @ghs_surgery: A1: great question. In a nutshell: A1: great question. In a nutshell: No #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
These are the risks of #gastricsleeve #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @LoggheMD: 👇🏻 #obsm chat, happening now 👍🏻 #BariatricSurgery #SurgTweeting #PatientExperience
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD I see your point, but if we had that same attitude about heart disease we wouldn't be treating enough people. It would be awesome if there were a pill that could do what bariatric surgery does. But until then, we should probably be doing more surgery. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @reneehilton30: The benefits far outweigh the risk. #BariatricSurgery is very safe in the hands of an experienced surgeon. The risks of not receiving surgery is far higher as demonstrated by the Christou study where those who did not receive surgery were almost 9 times more likely to die. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @jdscottmd: A2: A2: I like to use some of the risk assessment apps available online like the MBSC risk calculator and the Cleveland clinic tools. #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q2: The risks of #gastricsleeve #vsg are the following: Q2: The risks of #gastricsleeve #vsg are the following: #obsm https://t.co/5hI0diQWXT
#obsm chat @obsmchat
#obsm https://t.co/K3TEngvQkA
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@ZHeatherChamp @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat I certainly feel like a superhero compared to how I felt before surgery! #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD Agree 100%, hope you don’t think I was suggesting otherwise. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @obsmchat The short term risks of surgery are lower than having your gallbladder removed! That is thanks to the focus on quality improvements from @asmbs for our field. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Studies have shown that quality post-surgical care makes a big difference https://t.co/AjDT8FAimC
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
@arghavan_salles @IanPatton55 I do not understand the resistance to #bariatricsurgery beyond fear of complications #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bonuslife Hi!!!! :) #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @Eggface: For those considering #bariatricsurgery a great @ObesityAction resource that looks at the options and pros and cons https://t.co/xKiWW6Z888 #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@johnrodriguezMD @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD What do you think is the best way to disseminate what we know to PCPs? #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
Something healthcare pros and patients alike need to consider. There's "above-the-neck" work involved with dramatic weight loss. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@ZHeatherChamp Did it go away with time? Or did you have to have something done? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
These are great points and I believe the mental aspect plays a big part. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD If I was a patient and saw this list, I would say, "No way, Jose." I would want to see relative risk (compared to other procedures) and benefits (compared to not treating obesity). Also, being a #qualitative researcher, I want to hear stories (voices) of others like me. #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat Also how much the patient puts into it. My lifestyle changed so much before and after surgery. I figured if I was going to have the surgery I had to make those changes to obtain the full effect. Proudly down 220 lbs and celebrated my 3rd surgiversary in Nov. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@hrdlckwmn @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat I am also curious about these superhero powers... #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
@DrGoodpaster @arghavan_salles Any tips for helping patients decide when it's the right time? #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm Medicine is not an assembly line. All surgeons, other doctors, nurses, psychologists, therapists, etc. are not equivalent robots. General % of complications data do not reflect the differences in health professionals & settings.
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@txkyleharris @arghavan_salles @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs Appendectomy: almost everyone can relate. Everyone knows someone. Can we find numbers? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@obsmchat @DrGoodpaster I think the time is often before they have the referral for bariatric surgery. For the most part both patients and doctors think of surgery later rather than sooner. #obsm
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
A2.The downsides of surgery (e.g., nausea,fatigue,pain) often outweigh the benefits in the ~1st month,so it’s common to have “buyer’s remorse” initially. We help patients remember these experiences are temporary & keep in mind the powerful reasons they underwent surgery. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen Is she needing iron infusions or is she able to manage with iron pills? #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles @IanPatton55 There are a lot of lifestyle changes that come with #bariatricsurgery that are very scary, especially without the right information. I thought I would have to give up my favorite foods and my social life. I also didn't know who I was if I wasn't the "funny, fat guy". #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @Eggface: @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD Yes! or to refer patients to those that are specialists in #obesity medicine because patients suffer when they are told "you really need to lose weight" and sent on their way, I "dieted" most of my adult life. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Question 2: What are the complications of #bariatricsurgery ? How can we help patients who experience complications? #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
I would love to see an infographic of complications vs benefits of #bariatricsurgery for adolescents that I could use in my practice for the discussion prior to referral. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm one of the most important qualities of a surgeon is knowing when & when not to operate
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat This is a great point. I would love for insurance to cover psychology visits AFTER surgery for this reason. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD Yes! or to refer patients to those that are specialists in #obesity medicine because patients suffer when they are told "you really need to lose weight" and sent on their way, I "dieted" most of my adult life. #obsm
hrdlckwmn @hrdlckwmn
Question3:: mine have been “rewiring” my mind, learning external things can’t “fix” internal feelings or situations beyond my control. I am learning what I can change & what I can’t. Yet, my inner “hero” still battles to change things for the better for others. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @profbdcohen: @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles @IanPatton55 There are a lot of lifestyle changes that come with #bariatricsurgery that are very scary, especially without the right information. I thought I would have to give up my favorite foods and my social life. I also didn't know who I was if I wasn't the "funny, fat guy". #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@johnrodriguezMD @NeilFlochMD Yes. I am writing about this now. I don't know if this is b/c of the culture of surgery, or b/c PCPs don't read surgery journals, or b/c behavioral interventions trump surgical interventions. Or b/c surgeons don't take their evidence out of journals. What do you think? #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @Eggface: @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD Yes! or to refer patients to those that are specialists in #obesity medicine because patients suffer when they are told "you really need to lose weight" and sent on their way, I "dieted" most of my adult life. #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@arghavan_salles She gets infusions but since we discovered the patches she has not needed them as frequently. Unfortunately the infusions do a real number on her. I have very mild anemia that I have been able to manage with pills (added to my bariatric multivitamin). #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat Post #BariatricSurgery anemia has been an issue for me despite faithful iron supplementation and eating an iron-rich diet. Something to be aware of... vitamins and labs post #BariatricSurgery are non-negotiables. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @hrdlckwmn: Question3:: Question3:: mine have been “rewiring” my mind, learning external things can’t “fix” internal feelings or situations beyond my control. I am learning what I can change & what I can’t. Yet, my inner “hero” still battles to change things for the better for others. #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
A3 - depression is common and requires some level of screening at each follow-up visit #obsm
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
@arghavan_salles @obsmchat The right time is when all the risks (including psychiatric risks) are mitigated, patients feel they they have exhausted non-surgical lifestyle interventions, and motivation to make change is high. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD Can you say a bit more about your audiences? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@ZHeatherChamp Why not share? I think more people sharing this openly might decrease the stigma around bariatric surgery. Curious to hear your thoughts. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat Relationships change, people around you change, people treat you differently, sometimes for the better but not always, the psychological part is the hardest. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q2: The complications of #gastricbypass are listed here: #obsm https://t.co/53hpKPVkhx
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat Congratulation! #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @txkyleharris: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat Also how much the patient puts into it. My lifestyle changed so much before and after surgery. I figured if I was going to have the surgery I had to make those changes to obtain the full effect. Proudly down 220 lbs and celebrated my 3rd surgiversary in Nov. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q2: The risks of #LapBand or #gastricband are the following: #obsm https://t.co/i9aenEOtqx
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@arghavan_salles @hrdlckwmn @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat My superhero power is enhanced sense of smell. It’s not a great superpower but I didn’t have it before WLS. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@ZHeatherChamp Ha! Whatever works :). #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD To family physicians? Pediatricians? Do they ask you to come, or do you propose? #obsm #education
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat 100% true #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Relationships change, people around you change, people treat you differently, sometimes for the better but not always, the psychological part is the hardest. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JEChilderhose @txkyleharris @DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat @asmbs Interesting that you guys think that is more common than gallbladder surgery. I don't actually know those numbers, but in my personal practice I do many more gallbladder surgeries. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @NeilFlochMD Nausea, and pain. What do you mean by "your three and four calibration for people who have fallen off track?" #obsm
Abdelrahman Ali Nimeri MD @Nimeri_MD
RT @arghavan_salles: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat The training for bariatric surgeons is pretty rigorous, and to get certified by @asmbs is a reasonably high bar. The health of the patient is probably the best overall predictor of risk of complications, including tobacco, steroids, NSAIDs, etc. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm one of the most important qualities of a surgeon is knowing when & when not to operate
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat I’ve seen relationships end too. It is life changing. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat Most of the time it is wait to operate rather than “no operation” #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @ZHeatherChamp Why not share? I think more people sharing this openly might decrease the stigma around bariatric surgery. Curious to hear your thoughts. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrGoodpaster Great point! The first month or two can be rough. But usually things get better after that. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrGoodpaster: @arghavan_salles @obsmchat The right time is when all the risks (including psychiatric risks) are mitigated, patients feel they they have exhausted non-surgical lifestyle interventions, and motivation to make change is high. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Post #BariatricSurgery anemia has been an issue for me despite faithful iron supplementation and eating an iron-rich diet. Something to be aware of... vitamins and labs post #BariatricSurgery are non-negotiables. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @profbdcohen: @arghavan_salles She gets infusions but since we discovered the patches she has not needed them as frequently. Unfortunately the infusions do a real number on her. I have very mild anemia that I have been able to manage with pills (added to my bariatric multivitamin). #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JEChilderhose: @johnrodriguezMD @NeilFlochMD Yes. I am writing about this now. I don't know if this is b/c of the culture of surgery, or b/c PCPs don't read surgery journals, or b/c behavioral interventions trump surgical interventions. Or b/c surgeons don't take their evidence out of journals. What do you think? #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q2: The complications of #gastricbypass are listed here: Q2: The complications of #gastricbypass are listed here: #obsm https://t.co/53hpKPVkhx
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@txkyleharris @arghavan_salles @hrdlckwmn @obsmchat #truth #obsm https://t.co/RdO34KOHUZ
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@arghavan_salles @johnrodriguezMD @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm Too many middle people (e.g., non-clinicians like administrators, etc.) getting in the way of conversations that should be had between surgeons, other doctors, other health professionals, & patients.
#obsm chat @obsmchat
#obsm https://t.co/qkkckimVpy
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles @IanPatton55 I gave up some favorite foods by choice but I’m still funny as ever. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @DrGoodpaster: A2.The downsides of surgery (e.g., nausea,fatigue,pain) often outweigh the benefits in the ~1st month,so it’s common to have “buyer’s remorse” initially. We help patients remember these experiences are temporary & keep in mind the powerful reasons they underwent surgery. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd I wonder if @MarcMichalskyMD has one? #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles See, for me, I still see the fat guy in the mirror, he never left even though the weight did. He stuck around with all his head issues, took a long while to figure it out, #obsm
M Shafi Kuchay @drshafikuchay
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q1: Q1: The SOS study shows us that the risk of NOT having #bariatricsurgery and #dieting is that at 15 years people are 33% more likely to die - Sjostrom 2007 @NEJM - #obsm https://t.co/1PgRdoai38
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
We need medical doctors and surgeons speaking together in the same room and or the same twitter hashtags but talk they must - Yoda (#obsm)
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @johnrodriguezMD @NeilFlochMD I'm not following. Who thinks it is whose head? #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@JEChilderhose @arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD Many pediatricians wouldn't know enough to ask for the presentation because they still wouldn't know that #bariatricsurgery is an option for their patients. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: #obsm https://t.co/qkkckimVpy
Dr. Miguel Ruiz @DrMikeRuiz
RT @NeilFlochMD: These are the risks of #gastricsleeve #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles See, for me, I still see the fat guy in the mirror, he never left even though the weight did. He stuck around with all his head issues, took a long while to figure it out, #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @arghavan_salles @johnrodriguezMD @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm Too many middle people (e.g., non-clinicians like administrators, etc.) getting in the way of conversations that should be had between surgeons, other doctors, other health professionals, & patients.
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen I'm sorry to hear that. Glad that the patches have helped, though. #obsm
hrdlckwmn @hrdlckwmn
RT @bruce_y_lee: @arghavan_salles @johnrodriguezMD @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm Too many middle people (e.g., non-clinicians like administrators, etc.) getting in the way of conversations that should be had between surgeons, other doctors, other health professionals, & patients.
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
That’s great. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm follow up is highly variable. And hunger comes back a bit at postop year one. By post op year three and four if people are not exercising and food logging, chaos ensues and then a self blame and shame follow (regain also)
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @txkyleharris @arghavan_salles @hrdlckwmn @obsmchat #truth #obsm https://t.co/RdO34KOHUZ
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@Eggface @obsmchat Yes, and a study recently showed that those who followed up with their surgeon were less likely to have anemia than those who did not. #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles I was just writing about that for A3: I find myself struggling with crowded rooms, sitting in a seat in the middle of a row, getting onto an airplane....I know I'm not as big as I used to be but I still get lost in that sometimes. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @DrGoodpaster Great point! The first month or two can be rough. But usually things get better after that. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @IanPatton55 @obsmchat I’ve seen relationships end too. It is life changing. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@greenhousemd Do we even have data? This is the kind of question that interests me. But my sample so far has been small: 7 teens in a qualitative study. Not enough for an infographic. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @DrGoodpaster: @arghavan_salles @obsmchat The right time is when all the risks (including psychiatric risks) are mitigated, patients feel they they have exhausted non-surgical lifestyle interventions, and motivation to make change is high. #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat it forces you to start (or continue) the above the neck work :) #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @greenhousemd: @JEChilderhose @arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD Many pediatricians wouldn't know enough to ask for the presentation because they still wouldn't know that #bariatricsurgery is an option for their patients. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @NeilFlochMD: We need medical doctors and surgeons speaking together in the same room and or the same twitter hashtags but talk they must - Yoda (#obsm)
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@NeilFlochMD And there's the rub. Very few conferences have primary docs and surgeons speaking together in the same room or using the same hashtags. That's where the conversation has to start. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
Q3: There is a higher incidence of both divorce and marriage after bariatric surgery. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat Q4: new techniques? YES! Technology is continuing to advance and surgeons are trying new techniques. A lot has changed on 20 years. Just think about how your cellphone has changed! Not playing snake on my Nokia- I’m having an excellent discussion about #wls #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@arghavan_salles @ZHeatherChamp I share with everyone. If it helps just one person, job done. #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@bonuslife @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD The struggle is real. I'm >5 years out and I have not been able to exercise because of an injury. Even the slightest weight regain triggers the feelings you describe. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Although I believe in new techniques and some new procedures may have improved benefits, the #bariatricsurgery we have is safe and effective- we must educate patients and physicians as we continue to improve techniques #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JEChilderhose: @arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD To family physicians? Pediatricians? Do they ask you to come, or do you propose? #obsm #education
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD @DrMikeRuiz I also think we need to have patient perspectives on risks. These may be clinical or lifestyle. Relationship, managing food, and eating. Or simply categories that clinicians don't imagine. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@Eggface @obsmchat It was eye opening, a whole lot of acceptance and self love goes a long way, talking about it with friends and like minded folks helps #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Although I believe in new techniques and some new procedures may have improved benefits, the #bariatricsurgery we have is safe and effective- we must educate patients and physicians as we continue to improve techniques #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@JEChilderhose Great question. Any answers out there tonight? #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@PitchfordMd @NeilFlochMD In adults? Teens? Or both? #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat While also playing snake. #obsm #multitasking
Janine Kyrillos, MD @JanineKyrillos
#OBSM Hi gang. Joining in late. Obesity med doc in Philly. Don’t forget increased fertility and pregnancy after surgery also.
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen @IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD This seems to be pretty common. I often hear that people still see a previous version of themselves in the mirror. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@profbdcohen @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm Exercise definitely is the factor that keeps my stress from becoming toxic
#obsm chat @obsmchat
Patients need health care professionals to break down these sorts of silos and work together for the benefit of their patients. #obsm
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
Some patients experience emotional distress in the context of grieving the loss of food, relationship & body image changes, malabsorption of psych meds and/or the mental energy devoted to adjusting to a whole new lifestyle. ...Just to name a few challenges! #obsm
منيرة بنت عمر بن عبيد @M_BinObaid
RT @NeilFlochMD: Although I believe in new techniques and some new procedures may have improved benefits, the #bariatricsurgery we have is safe and effective- we must educate patients and physicians as we continue to improve techniques #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @obsmchat Q4: @obsmchat Q4: new techniques? YES! Technology is continuing to advance and surgeons are trying new techniques. A lot has changed on 20 years. Just think about how your cellphone has changed! Not playing snake on my Nokia- I’m having an excellent discussion about #wls #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
Asking @davearterburn @drtominge @KimSteeleMD #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
That’s shocking #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @greenhousemd: @JEChilderhose @arghavan_salles @NeilFlochMD Many pediatricians wouldn't know enough to ask for the presentation because they still wouldn't know that #bariatricsurgery is an option for their patients. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd @JEChilderhose There are data on complications for adolescents who have bariatric surgery. https://t.co/Tl3k8YLUke #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @greenhousemd: @JEChilderhose Great question. Any answers out there tonight? #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@IanPatton55 @obsmchat It sure is. #obsm
Ryan Ash @RyanAsh58225737
RT @profbdcohen: @arghavan_salles She gets infusions but since we discovered the patches she has not needed them as frequently. Unfortunately the infusions do a real number on her. I have very mild anemia that I have been able to manage with pills (added to my bariatric multivitamin). #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd @NeilFlochMD Agree. #obsm
Ryan Ash @RyanAsh58225737
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Post #BariatricSurgery anemia has been an issue for me despite faithful iron supplementation and eating an iron-rich diet. Something to be aware of... vitamins and labs post #BariatricSurgery are non-negotiables. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
@JanineKyrillos Welcome Janine -- any time you can make it we love having your input! #obsm
Ryan Ash @RyanAsh58225737
RT @DrGoodpaster: @arghavan_salles @obsmchat The right time is when all the risks (including psychiatric risks) are mitigated, patients feel they they have exhausted non-surgical lifestyle interventions, and motivation to make change is high. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris @ZHeatherChamp Thank you! #obsm
Ryan Ash @RyanAsh58225737
RT @arghavan_salles: @ZHeatherChamp Why not share? I think more people sharing this openly might decrease the stigma around bariatric surgery. Curious to hear your thoughts. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@arghavan_salles @obsmchat @asmbs #obsm are there any statistics on how many bariatric surgery procedures are performed by those who did not go through such training & are not @asmbs certified?
#obsm chat @obsmchat
#obsm https://t.co/paTrEBvHOB
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen @bonuslife @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD There is so much shame and blame in our culture that it's hard to keep it from being internalized. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @arghavan_salles: @greenhousemd @JEChilderhose There are data on complications for adolescents who have bariatric surgery. https://t.co/Tl3k8YLUke #obsm
Moein Surgical Arts @DrBabakMoein
RT @AskDr_Rachel: Many people do consider #bariatricsurgery before knee replacement surgery or to decrease pain. Thank you @nyulangone for adding this article to your December issue of News & Views! #wls #obsm #obesity #qol #weightloss @obsmchat @asmbs @ASMBSIH #weight #healthbenefits https://t.co/p7ekREttDT
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
We have excellent data from Dr Inge from the Cincinati Childrens Hospital With data on adolescent #bariatricsurgery. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JEChilderhose: @greenhousemd Do we even have data? This is the kind of question that interests me. But my sample so far has been small: 7 teens in a qualitative study. Not enough for an infographic. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @greenhousemd: I would love to see an infographic of complications vs benefits of #bariatricsurgery for adolescents that I could use in my practice for the discussion prior to referral. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @greenhousemd @JEChilderhose There are data on complications for adolescents who have bariatric surgery. https://t.co/Tl3k8YLUke #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@JanineKyrillos Thanks, @JanineKyrillos! #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @arghavan_salles: @profbdcohen @bonuslife @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD There is so much shame and blame in our culture that it's hard to keep it from being internalized. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
Researchers? @asmbs folks? Any thoughts? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @obsmchat: Patients need health care professionals to break down these sorts of silos and work together for the benefit of their patients. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrGoodpaster: Some patients experience emotional distress in the context of grieving the loss of food, relationship & body image changes, malabsorption of psych meds and/or the mental energy devoted to adjusting to a whole new lifestyle. ...Just to name a few challenges! #obsm
Moein Surgical Arts @DrBabakMoein
RT @arghavan_salles: @greenhousemd @JEChilderhose There are data on complications for adolescents who have bariatric surgery. https://t.co/Tl3k8YLUke #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @DrGoodpaster: Some patients experience emotional distress in the context of grieving the loss of food, relationship & body image changes, malabsorption of psych meds and/or the mental energy devoted to adjusting to a whole new lifestyle. ...Just to name a few challenges! #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
A5: Follow up. There is nothing more important (says the guy who knows he needs to check in with the office) because physicians can't help what they don't know about. #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm
Ryan Ash @RyanAsh58225737
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Relationships change, people around you change, people treat you differently, sometimes for the better but not always, the psychological part is the hardest. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrGoodpaster Thank goodness for people like you to help, @DrGoodpaster! #obsm
Moein Surgical Arts @DrBabakMoein
RT @NeilFlochMD: It’s always an individual decision, that’s why we must help patients to learn the details about the risks and the benefits #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @profbdcohen: A5: A5: Follow up. There is nothing more important (says the guy who knows he needs to check in with the office) because physicians can't help what they don't know about. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@NeilFlochMD Okay. I'm definitely submitting this commentary on the evidence gap to unnamed #surgery journal, possibly in the top 5. Yes, this is real. There is a remarkable lack of awareness amongst pediatricians that teens are eligible for BS & can benefit from it. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@arghavan_salles @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD Yes, something many of my peers discuss. Just wish I had known to expect it or that it was normal and how to address it, I am glad I am mindful of it but I feel like I wasted a lot of time struggling in silence with it #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@arghavan_salles @JEChilderhose Thank you! Great article. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q4: A Gastro-gastricfistula can be closed with endoscopic techniques #obsm This is a great technique with minimal risk - same day https://t.co/GOpoiFtE3N
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
@arghavan_salles Thank you! I’m so impressed with our patients’ strength and resilence. It’s an honor to be along for the ride. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat @asmbs Great question! I have not looked into it. @NeilFlochMD do you know? #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: https://t.co/APEo1iXqH6 including vitamin assistance programs, free resources, etc. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm Silos are a major problem in medicine. The health care system & professional societies just don't encourage mixing and conversations among disciplines/specialties
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
We are here Because we want to help #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @profbdcohen: @IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles I was just writing about that for A3: @IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD @arghavan_salles I was just writing about that for A3: I find myself struggling with crowded rooms, sitting in a seat in the middle of a row, getting onto an airplane....I know I'm not as big as I used to be but I still get lost in that sometimes. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@profbdcohen Yes, thank you for this! The time to see your surgeon is when you're struggling--otherwise, we can't help. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
RT @Eggface: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: https://t.co/APEo1iXqH6 including vitamin assistance programs, free resources, etc. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @NeilFlochMD True, evidence suggests that, however it’s not a scaleable treatment, there will never be enough surgeries done to make a dent in the obesity problem, hopefully one day there are other options as well #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat Talk! Be open, know what complications medical and psychological are and know that it is safe and appropriate to speak up and ask early, many complications are made worse by waiting to long #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Silos are a major problem in medicine. The health care system & professional societies just don't encourage mixing and conversations among disciplines/specialties
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@IanPatton55 @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD Great point. I certainly can start discussing this preemptively with my patients. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: https://t.co/APEo1iXqH6 including vitamin assistance programs, free resources, etc. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Silos are a major problem in medicine. The health care system & professional societies just don't encourage mixing and conversations among disciplines/specialties
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd @JEChilderhose There are more--just the easiest one to find :). #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrGoodpaster Agree--we work with some of the strongest, most dedicated patients around. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @Eggface: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: https://t.co/APEo1iXqH6 including vitamin assistance programs, free resources, etc. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Question 5 - What can Patients and their Physicians do to limit #bariatricsurgery complications? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@PitchfordMd @bonuslife I do not dissect the crura unless there is a hernia. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @profbdcohen Yes, thank you for this! The time to see your surgeon is when you're struggling--otherwise, we can't help. #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm Develop a rapport with each other so that patients feel comfortable sharing all details about their progress, even seemingly "little" issues
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat and certainly no one facilitates them... #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Talk! Be open, know what complications medical and psychological are and know that it is safe and appropriate to speak up and ask early, many complications are made worse by waiting to long #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Develop a rapport with each other so that patients feel comfortable sharing all details about their progress, even seemingly "little" issues
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q5: Don’t eat off the prescribed menu as getting food stuck can lead to vomiting and obstruction after #bariatricsurgery #obsm
ℳartha 🪷 @DraDominguez_
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q4: Q4: A Gastro-gastricfistula can be closed with endoscopic techniques #obsm This is a great technique with minimal risk - same day https://t.co/GOpoiFtE3N
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@arghavan_salles @PitchfordMd Agree #obsm - but late GERD usually has a hernia anyhow!
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
A5 - Patients: don't be afraid to ask questions, especially right before surgery and anytime in the postoperative period. Physicians: track outcomes, collaborate w/ colleagues, never stop learning. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@DrAaronBolduc @obsmchat Yes! Communication is hugely important, particularly early on after surgery. Of course we also try to use standard techniques and provide adequate educational materials for patients. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q4: Q4: A Gastro-gastricfistula can be closed with endoscopic techniques #obsm This is a great technique with minimal risk - same day https://t.co/GOpoiFtE3N
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Do patients have difficulty following the menu? #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@obsmchat #obsm Oh, and to emphasize this again. This cannot be done in just 15 minute appointments. This limit is one of the biggest things preventing appropriate relationships & discussions btw doctors & patients and makes no sense: https://t.co/CHGxjzCW0K
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat Some wonderful resources on the internet @ObesityAction @asmbs etc. but also some scary ones... be sure you are getting your info from trusted sources and ultimately talking with YOUR doctor who will be basing his advice on you and your health #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@KimFraser62 @arghavan_salles @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD What’s worse is when they keep saying that and you have been struggling with a bit of regain and you mind is running overtime trying to get it back on track #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
Closing thoughts on pros and cons of #BariatricSurgery? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q5: Patients must ambulated as staying still helps to promote blood clots in the legs that can gontonthe lungs after #bariatricsurgery #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
Q5: Patients need to stay well hydrated after surgery- drinking 32 to 64 ounces of fluids at least. After #bariatricsurgery #vsg #gastricbypass #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @NeilFlochMD: Although I believe in new techniques and some new procedures may have improved benefits, the #bariatricsurgery we have is safe and effective- we must educate patients and physicians as we continue to improve techniques #obsm
Lab is my happy place @profbdcohen
@NeilFlochMD In my experience, not initially but at some point I got a little too comfortable and my pouch had to remind me who was actually in charge. :) #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
I always tell patients that our best reason we have that lower risk and gallbladder surgery is smoking cessation and optimizing/stabilizing blood pressure and diabetes - We don’t get that chance in the urgent situation with gallbladder #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Some wonderful resources on the internet @ObesityAction @asmbs etc. but also some scary ones... be sure you are getting your info from trusted sources and ultimately talking with YOUR doctor who will be basing his advice on you and your health #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @CJMannMD: A5 - Patients: A5 - Patients: don't be afraid to ask questions, especially right before surgery and anytime in the postoperative period. Physicians: track outcomes, collaborate w/ colleagues, never stop learning. #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
And while I have the opportunity, can we have a chat or something similar with a registered dietician and maybe a chef. Food substitution, good carbs vs bad carbs, etc. @eggface has a great blog for Bariatric friendly recipes but I would like to see more on health cooking #obsm
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@NeilFlochMD The general pediatric view is that surgery should typically be the last option, if it is an option at all, after everything else has failed over a long period of time. That philosophy doesn't necessarily hold up for obesity. That's where the education needs to come in. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Oh, and to emphasize this again. This cannot be done in just 15 minute appointments. This limit is one of the biggest things preventing appropriate relationships & discussions btw doctors & patients and makes no sense: https://t.co/CHGxjzCW0K
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Some wonderful resources on the internet @ObesityAction @asmbs etc. but also some scary ones... be sure you are getting your info from trusted sources and ultimately talking with YOUR doctor who will be basing his advice on you and your health #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@IanPatton55 @KimFraser62 @arghavan_salles @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD #obsm - And trying to do it abruptly with Boot Camp mentality is the worst way
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Oh, and to emphasize this again. This cannot be done in just 15 minute appointments. This limit is one of the biggest things preventing appropriate relationships & discussions btw doctors & patients and makes no sense: https://t.co/CHGxjzCW0K
Prakay Cc @CcPrakay
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q5: Q5: Patients need to stay well hydrated after surgery- drinking 32 to 64 ounces of fluids at least. After #bariatricsurgery #vsg #gastricbypass #obsm
Bruce Y. Lee @bruce_y_lee
@arghavan_salles @obsmchat #obsm another reason why medicine & health care systems need more innovative & diverse leadership who are willing to shake things up
Dr. Kasey Goodpaster @DrGoodpaster
Follow up per the protocol or more often as needed, whether you’re struggling (& the team will help) or you’re doing well (you may still hear important refreshers, & maintaining connection to the program increases willingness to reach out if problems arise later). #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat I have never performed a surgery that has positively impacted a patient as much as #bariatricsurgery! Life changing. #obsm #wls @AUG_Health @reneehilton30 @arghavan_salles @rachelmooremd @NeilFlochMD
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
I bring my patients in frequently and when they start to regain a little we place them on weight loss medications such as #Phenteramine #Contrave #Belviq #qysmia or #Topamax - #Saxenda is best -#obsm along with nutrition and counseling- #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Oh, and to emphasize this again. This cannot be done in just 15 minute appointments. This limit is one of the biggest things preventing appropriate relationships & discussions btw doctors & patients and makes no sense: https://t.co/CHGxjzCW0K
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
The most important take-home message, I think, is that there is risk with any surgery. Bariatric surgery can seem scary, but outcomes are quite good. The decision to proceed or not should be made between the patient and the surgeon. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @KimFraser62 @arghavan_salles @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD What’s worse is when they keep saying that and you have been struggling with a bit of regain and you mind is running overtime trying to get it back on track #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Some wonderful resources on the internet @ObesityAction @asmbs etc. but also some scary ones... be sure you are getting your info from trusted sources and ultimately talking with YOUR doctor who will be basing his advice on you and your health #obsm
Crystal Johnson-Mann, MD, MPH, FACS, FASMBS @CJMannMD
RT @arghavan_salles: The most important take-home message, I think, is that there is risk with any surgery. Bariatric surgery can seem scary, but outcomes are quite good. The decision to proceed or not should be made between the patient and the surgeon. #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @txkyleharris: And while I have the opportunity, can we have a chat or something similar with a registered dietician and maybe a chef. Food substitution, good carbs vs bad carbs, etc. @eggface has a great blog for Bariatric friendly recipes but I would like to see more on health cooking #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @CJMannMD: A5 - Patients: A5 - Patients: don't be afraid to ask questions, especially right before surgery and anytime in the postoperative period. Physicians: track outcomes, collaborate w/ colleagues, never stop learning. #obsm
Ian Patton, PHD @IanPatton55
@obsmchat Bariatric surgey saves my life and the lives of many others, it is the gold standard obesity treatment and pros often outweigh the cons, but for optimal success, we need to remember obesity is a chronic disease and surgery is not a cure, but a management tool #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat Keep your head in the game. Find your tribe. Highly recommend patient groups like @ObesityAction @ObesityCan @EASOpatients, attending events like https://t.co/T0u6IGfYpU and taking part in #obsm tweet chats every 2nd Sunday of the month.
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q5: Q5: Don’t eat off the prescribed menu as getting food stuck can lead to vomiting and obstruction after #bariatricsurgery #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@txkyleharris @Eggface Great idea! Thank you. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
RT @arghavan_salles: The most important take-home message, I think, is that there is risk with any surgery. Bariatric surgery can seem scary, but outcomes are quite good. The decision to proceed or not should be made between the patient and the surgeon. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat and certainly no one facilitates them... #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Develop a rapport with each other so that patients feel comfortable sharing all details about their progress, even seemingly "little" issues
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @PitchfordMd @bonuslife I do not dissect the crura unless there is a hernia. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @arghavan_salles: The most important take-home message, I think, is that there is risk with any surgery. Bariatric surgery can seem scary, but outcomes are quite good. The decision to proceed or not should be made between the patient and the surgeon. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @IanPatton55 @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD Great point. I certainly can start discussing this preemptively with my patients. #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
I ran out of characters. #obsm What I mean is: we need the bigger picture from pt perspective, not just clinical outcomes.
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Talk! Be open, know what complications medical and psychological are and know that it is safe and appropriate to speak up and ask early, many complications are made worse by waiting to long #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@bruce_y_lee @obsmchat Yes! #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: We are here Because we want to help #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @DrGoodpaster: @arghavan_salles Thank you! I’m so impressed with our patients’ strength and resilence. It’s an honor to be along for the ride. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Q4: Q4: A Gastro-gastricfistula can be closed with endoscopic techniques #obsm This is a great technique with minimal risk - same day https://t.co/GOpoiFtE3N
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @IanPatton55: @arghavan_salles @profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD Yes, something many of my peers discuss. Just wish I had known to expect it or that it was normal and how to address it, I am glad I am mindful of it but I feel like I wasted a lot of time struggling in silence with it #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @txkyleharris: @obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @DrGoodpaster Thank goodness for people like you to help, @DrGoodpaster! #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @txkyleharris: @obsmchat Yes, yes, yes. No more T2D, sleep apnea, or HBP. Not to mention the years added to my life and the ability to actually enjoy my life. #obsm
Janine Kyrillos, MD @JanineKyrillos
So happy to hear this. How many surgery programs prescribe meds? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @profbdcohen: A5: A5: Follow up. There is nothing more important (says the guy who knows he needs to check in with the office) because physicians can't help what they don't know about. #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Bariatric surgey saves my life and the lives of many others, it is the gold standard obesity treatment and pros often outweigh the cons, but for optimal success, we need to remember obesity is a chronic disease and surgery is not a cure, but a management tool #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: Researchers? @asmbs folks? Any thoughts? #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @IanPatton55: @obsmchat Bariatric surgey saves my life and the lives of many others, it is the gold standard obesity treatment and pros often outweigh the cons, but for optimal success, we need to remember obesity is a chronic disease and surgery is not a cure, but a management tool #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: We have excellent data from Dr Inge from the Cincinati Childrens Hospital With data on adolescent #bariatricsurgery. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @profbdcohen @bonuslife @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD There is so much shame and blame in our culture that it's hard to keep it from being internalized. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @bruce_y_lee: @arghavan_salles @obsmchat @asmbs #obsm are there any statistics on how many bariatric surgery procedures are performed by those who did not go through such training & are not @asmbs certified?
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: That’s shocking #obsm
#obsm chat @obsmchat
That’s a wrap! Thanks, everyone, for another great #obsm chat! Special thank you to the patients who shared their experiences and expertise. Hope you will join us for the next #obsm chat Sunday, March 10, at 9pm EST.
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JEChilderhose: Asking @davearterburn @drtominge @KimSteeleMD #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: Patients need health care professionals to break down these sorts of silos and work together for the benefit of their patients. #obsm
GeekyGrouch @grouchy_geek
@profbdcohen @NeilFlochMD Call my sleeve ALMFIM (angry little mf’er inside me). He always reminds me when I eat too much or too fast. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @arghavan_salles: @profbdcohen @IanPatton55 @NeilFlochMD This seems to be pretty common. I often hear that people still see a previous version of themselves in the mirror. #obsm
Renee Hilton, M.D. @reneehilton30
RT @DrAaronBolduc: @obsmchat I have never performed a surgery that has positively impacted a patient as much as #bariatricsurgery! Life changing. #obsm #wls @AUG_Health @reneehilton30 @arghavan_salles @rachelmooremd @NeilFlochMD
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
RT @obsmchat: That’s a wrap! Thanks, everyone, for another great #obsm chat! Special thank you to the patients who shared their experiences and expertise. Hope you will join us for the next #obsm chat Sunday, March 10, at 9pm EST.
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
Good night! #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @NeilFlochMD What is happening with Aspire Assist? Does anyone know? Clinical trials? #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @obsmchat: That’s a wrap! Thanks, everyone, for another great #obsm chat! Special thank you to the patients who shared their experiences and expertise. Hope you will join us for the next #obsm chat Sunday, March 10, at 9pm EST.
Deborah Greenhouse @greenhousemd
@bruce_y_lee @arghavan_salles @obsmchat Always happy to shake things up from the pediatric end of things. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JanineKyrillos: So happy to hear this. How many surgery programs prescribe meds? #obsm
Turner & Page @TurnerandPage
@obsmchat It seems the hour goes by faster every month. Thanks, everyone. I'll tweet after a while when the transcript is up. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @JEChilderhose: I ran out of characters. #obsm What I mean is: we need the bigger picture from pt perspective, not just clinical outcomes.
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
RT @Eggface: @obsmchat Keep your head in the game. Find your tribe. Highly recommend patient groups like @ObesityAction @ObesityCan @EASOpatients, attending events like https://t.co/T0u6IGfYpU and taking part in #obsm tweet chats every 2nd Sunday of the month.
#obsm chat @obsmchat
RT @TurnerandPage: @obsmchat It seems the hour goes by faster every month. Thanks, everyone. I'll tweet after a while when the transcript is up. #obsm
Neil Floch MD @NeilFlochMD
So beautifully said - thank you all for tweeting tonight #obsm #bariatricsurgery #Obesity
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD I think the device is wonderful, but practically it is unattractive to most people, and the folks I have put it in have had some surprising struggles. Not what you would think though. I really think it is a legitimate approach but with need for total close follow up #obsm
Arghavan Salles, MD, PhD @arghavan_salles
@greenhousemd @bruce_y_lee @obsmchat I'm with you! #obsm
Michelle Vicari @Eggface
@obsmchat Looking forward to reading through all the tweets that I missed 🌪️🌪️🌪️ #obsm Special wave and thanks to the #patients sharing their experiences!
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
RT @obsmchat: That’s a wrap! Thanks, everyone, for another great #obsm chat! Special thank you to the patients who shared their experiences and expertise. Hope you will join us for the next #obsm chat Sunday, March 10, at 9pm EST.
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@obsmchat Great chat! Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts! #obsm
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @NeilFlochMD This is a really interesting and unexpected response. Thank you. I'd love to know more. #obsm
Antonio Montecalvo @montecalvoaarq
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Oh, and to emphasize this again. This cannot be done in just 15 minute appointments. This limit is one of the biggest things preventing appropriate relationships & discussions btw doctors & patients and makes no sense: https://t.co/CHGxjzCW0K
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD I have not seen any of what you would consider an eating disorder type approach at all. #obsm. Everyone likes to blow it off by describing it like bulimia. It is exactly the opposite - does not work with large feeds, encourages regular meal structure and planning, gives satiety!
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @NeilFlochMD That is absolutely fascinating and contrary to popular opinion. We need #evidence not bias. #obsm
Prakay Cc @CcPrakay
RT @Eggface: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: Some Post- #BariatricSurgery Money Saving Tips: https://t.co/APEo1iXqH6 including vitamin assistance programs, free resources, etc. #obsm
Prakay Cc @CcPrakay
RT @bruce_y_lee: @obsmchat #obsm Silos are a major problem in medicine. The health care system & professional societies just don't encourage mixing and conversations among disciplines/specialties
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm University of Colorado has the dream team for aspire and pediatric surgical
sarahkbingler @sarahkbingler
RT @Eggface: @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD Yes! or to refer patients to those that are specialists in #obesity medicine because patients suffer when they are told "you really need to lose weight" and sent on their way, I "dieted" most of my adult life. #obsm
Dr. Aaron Bolduc @DrAaronBolduc
@JEChilderhose @bonuslife @NeilFlochMD Not a fan of the idea of Aspire Assist. If overeating was the only cause of obesity then it might make sense, but we have learned that developing obesity is much more complicated that that. #obsm
walt medlin KILL THE FILIBUSTER, Statehood DC, PR @bonuslife
@DrAaronBolduc @JEChilderhose @NeilFlochMD #obsm Have you studied it? The FDA trial was quite convincing for satiety
Janet Elizabeth Childerhose, PhD @JEChilderhose
@bonuslife @DrAaronBolduc @NeilFlochMD No! But I am aware there has been a clinical trial w/ teens in the Czech Republic. That's it. Sounds like you are very current. #obsm
Eyad Wohaibi, MD, FACS, FASMBS. @WohaibiMD
RT @NeilFlochMD: Mortality increases dramatically over 15 years in patients who do not have #bariatricsurgery #obsm
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