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Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
And it's time for #HealthXPH tweet chat. Let's talk about continuing professional development (CPD). Who's out there?!
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@wareFLO Thankfully! Hi Chuck! #healthxph
Chuck Webster MD, MS AI, MS Systems Engineering @wareFLO
Chuck! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
I'm Iris, internist-endocrinologist from Manila. Welcome to #HealthXPH tweet chat! I'm moderating tonight.
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
Joining #HealthXPh chat from Maryland to talk about the need for continuing professional development with @endocrine_witch.
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
Good evening #HealthXPH, Helen here from Cebu, signing in for our tweetchat on the CPD law... How is everynody tonight? Here is a photo from today's HIV forum for medical students of MHAM with partner HIV advocates Jun, Jerson and Cham. https://t.co/Fjop046MKj
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@JKatzaman Hello Jim! Before I forget, thanks for writing about #HealthXPH tweet chats :) really appreciate it.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
There's still time to read the #HealthXPH pre-chat blogpost here. Let's talk about CPD! https://t.co/EqQyKItLTE
Chuck Webster MD, MS AI, MS Systems Engineering @wareFLO
RT @endocrine_witch: There's still time to read the #HealthXPH pre-chat blogpost here. Let's talk about CPD! https://t.co/EqQyKItLTE
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
I'm Prasad, Health Informatician, joining #HealthXPH from Sri Lanka
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
@endocrine_witch Hi Iris and team #healthxph! Will catch up. Very relevant topic on CPDs tonight.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan Thanks for joining #HealthXPH!! I'm sure you know my mentor @amarcelo :) Alvin are you here?!
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@giasison See ya Gia! I hope you're not driving. Can hear the rains here in QC. #healthxph
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
@endocrine_witch You're welcome Iris. You have good information to pass along. The biggest plus for me is that all of you have already done the research. I just need to compile what you say into narratives. #HealthXPh.
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch Good evening, Doctor! Vivian here from QC joining in this interesting and quite controversial topic on CPD. #HealthXPh
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
Jarvin, pharmacist, signing in for #HealthXPH chat on CPD
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
The Philippines has the CPD act which became law in 2016. Physicians are asked to have 27 units of CPD for 2018 and 45 units by 2019. A backgrounder for tonight's #HealthXPH tweet chat.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@Jetlax Hi Jarvin! #healthxph How many CPD units are required for pharmacists?
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
RT @endocrine_witch: The Philippines has the CPD act which became law in 2016. Physicians are asked to have 27 units of CPD for 2018 and 45 units by 2019. A backgrounder for tonight's #HealthXPH tweet chat.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@pinay_po_ako Hi there :) are you joining the #HealthXPH tweet chat? Please don't forget the hashtag.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@MajorDecision Some lawmakers want the law repealed so soon after the CPD act lapsed into law. So yep, it's controversial. Looking forward to hear your thoughts. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan Hi Prasad! Is there also a CPD law /requirement to renew your professional license in Sri Lanka? #healthxph
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@endocrine_witch Just finishing a work email po to my committee head! ^_^ Whew whatta week for us. #Healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
Jerome, Nurse and Health Social Scientist signing in for #HealthXPH!!!
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@endocrine_witch 45 every 3 years. A whole day, 7-unit course is worth about 2000, meaning it will take at least a week's worth and 10,000+ pesos to fulfill that That is, considering the traditional means most are familiar with #HealthXPh
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
.@endocrine_witch there is no such law in Sri Lanka mandating CPD #healthxph
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
Hi! Iโ€™m JC from Tuguegarao, signing in for the tweetchat on the CPD law. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@Jetlax 45 units. That's the same for physicians. #HealthXPH How did they come up with these numbers?
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@rheumarhyme No rush :) just jump in when ready. #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@Jetlax @endocrine_witch which is why I think health professionals should be given free options to comply with the CPD law to still renew their licenses. #healthxph govt should provide enabling environment if they want HCPs to be updated.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan Interesting. Looking forward to your perspective. Questions coming up in a bit. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@icp_md Hello JC! Welcome to #HealthXPH!
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
RT @Jetlax: @endocrine_witch 45 every 3 years. A whole day, 7-unit course is worth about 2000, meaning it will take at least a week's worth and 10,000+ pesos to fulfill that That is, considering the traditional means most are familiar with #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas Hi Jerome! How many CPD units are required for nursing? #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
RT @helenvmadamba: @Jetlax @endocrine_witch which is why I think health professionals should be given free options to comply with the CPD law to still renew their licenses. #healthxph govt should provide enabling environment if they want HCPs to be updated.
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@Jetlax hello there Jarvin! I couldn't apply for CPD units for pharmacists for our HIV Congress... who are considered accredited CPD providers for pharmacists? #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Don't forget the hashtag #HealthXPH Wow @amarcelo joining us ;)
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@JKatzaman @endocrine_witch hello there Jim! You are you this week? #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @helenvmadamba: @Jetlax @endocrine_witch which is why I think health professionals should be given free options to comply with the CPD law to still renew their licenses. #healthxph govt should provide enabling environment if they want HCPs to be updated.
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch Yes, Doc! I read it on the news recently. I do not have my license yet ('cause I'm currently taking the PLE this year) but soon I'll also be affected by this law. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
OK, let's begin with T1. Please don't forget to label your answers T1 and #HealthXPH when replying. T1. Should continuing professional development be mandated by law? Why or why not?
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@MajorDecision IF it doesn't get repealed first ;) #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@PhilPharmacists ! I've been telling my classes that pharmacists ought to be more proactive here, given the double stigma and high burden, Even amongst infectious diseases (which I see RPhs active a lot on given AMS), there isn't much focus dedicated to HIV #HealthXPh
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch 45 units too. I've seen seminars for nursing that cost 10k and only give 5 units. :( #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
#HealthXPh so happy for my #SUPACA kids participating in today's HIV forum in MHAM. It would have been a great opportunity to apply for CPD units as HIV is an issue that needs multi-disciplinary approach. #TEACHCebu https://t.co/7kABKKjSk4
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@giasison @endocrine_witch hello there mommy Gia! glad to see you this week... kamusta? #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
T1. Should continuing professional development be mandated by law? Why or why not? #HealthXPH @amarcelo
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch Doing fine, Helen. I got word this week on a new job starting late next month. It's Monday-Friday, so it won't affect me on #healthXph. How are things with you?
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA ๐Ÿ˜ท She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
Sorry to miss out today. I'm in #!NYC #HealthXPH https://t.co/7Jjst0izUR
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Very much agree Rom! But I guess the discussion will be can it be done without the law? Hence T1. Should continuing professional development be mandated by law? Why or why not? #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@DrJeromeCleofas @endocrine_witch yah, this complying with CPD units has become a lucrative business for organizations accredited as CPD providers. #healthxph government created the demand, they should also create the means. Otherwise, healthcare professionals are just exploited for the opportunity for income.
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
Good PM/AM to the #healthxph Twitterati. Nomar, #MedEd guy from MNL, PHL, lurking a bit (will need to be on the road in a while, sorry). Major concern being tackled in tonight's chat.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas I really haven't found anything online to explain the 45 units. I mean how it was agreed on or computed. #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@PRan hello there Prasad! welcome to #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch @giasison it's also raining here in Cebu, mam I. #HealthXPH
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
T1 Mandating continuing professional development makes sure providers stay current in their field and supports baseline standards. What those standards should be is open for discussion. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@HPEducatorPH Hi Nomar! I just renewed this year with 27 units. Will worry about it again in 3 years if the CPD law is still there. #HealthXPH
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Hi #Healthxph ! Renewed my prc just last Aug, had enough points since Ive been moderator several times, but I was still worried. Went ok anyway. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ Got the new one Sept in time for PhilHealth too
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @JKatzaman: T1 Mandating continuing professional development makes sure providers stay current in their field and supports baseline standards. What those standards should be is open for discussion. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@ShereesePubHlth Enjoy the city that never sleeps Shereese!! There's always next Saturday. #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
[Unless they improve the way it's implemented now], I suggest it should not be mandated by law. It's expensive for professionals, and there aren't enough providers. #HealthXPH
JR Ong @jrong13
Hi. Will catch up! #HealthXPH
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
T1 I believe it should. I have issues with the current version on cost and accessibility, but at the same time, I'm frustrated seeing people recommend/teach TCAs as 1st line, demeclocycline for SIADH, outdated status epilepticus pharmacotherapy, etc etc #HealthXPh
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas Exactly! I was also looking for the rationale for these 45 units for three years but I found none online. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
T1 I think that CPD should be mandated. However even before the CPD law, it was mandated by the medical/specialty organizations. #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
#healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: [Unless they improve the way it's implemented now], I suggest it should not be mandated by law. It's expensive for professionals, and there aren't enough providers. #HealthXPH
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
@endocrine_witch Was able to renew last year before the whole thing got going. And yes, I feel for those who have difficulties funding their needed units. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas So do you think it's market forces at work. That if we get more CPD providers, maybe the expense will go down? #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @HPEducatorPH: @endocrine_witch Was able to renew last year before the whole thing got going. And yes, I feel for those who have difficulties funding their needed units. #healthxph
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
T1 | CPD should be mandatory. But I do not think a law is essential. Professional organisations can make it happen #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @PRan: T1 | CPD should be mandatory. But I do not think a law is essential. Professional organisations can make it happen #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@SabiNiDok In theory, I'm not sure it would count towards your first profession since it's a different field altogether #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan Is there a professional organization for health informaticians in Sri Lanka? #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @Jetlax: T1 I believe it should. I have issues with the current version on cost and accessibility, but at the same time, I'm frustrated seeing people recommend/teach TCAs as 1st line, demeclocycline for SIADH, outdated status epilepticus pharmacotherapy, etc etc #HealthXPh
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@jimlopez875 Agree 100% #healthxph
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
T1. CPD should be mandated by law and PRC, being a government agency should oversee its implementation. #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
#HealthXPH @amarcelo Question: what is GTW?
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@Jetlax I've never seen so many people fill up the halls at medical meetings before the CPD law. People are somewhat "forced" to be there but my educator's heart rejoices ;) #healthxph
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
T1 #Healthxph Yes but not the same for all. What may be feasible for one specialty may not be practical for another.
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@DrJeromeCleofas @endocrine_witch Did those seminars which costing 10k and granted 5 CPD units lasted for 5 hours only? I think CPD providers grant 1 CPD unit for every hour of the seminar/ training/ workshop. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@anna1angelica2 When's the exam :) thanks for saying hi anyway. #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
T1. I have witnessed horror stories when people from provinces would go to Manila for CPD courses, then be denied entry because they were a few minutes late. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ #HealthXPH
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@DrJeromeCleofas @endocrine_witch Ang lala ng 10k for 5 units :( #HealthXPh
Witch Doctor @witch_md
RT @PRan: T1 | CPD should be mandatory. But I do not think a law is essential. Professional organisations can make it happen #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@MajorDecision @DrJeromeCleofas I've seen organizers also put "working breaks" to get more CPD units. #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@Jetlax @PhilPharmacists Yes well, I am just saying all these advocacy campaigns SHOULD have corresponding CPD units for attendees. #healthxph after all, attendance and registration is free. these are done in schools and students practically bring their own baon...
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
Agree. And there are CPDs offered for free, just like what UP Manilaโ€™s Webinars does. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
That's what we're hoping to discuss tonight at #HealthXPH :)
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@ShereesePubHlth wow! how cold is it in New York? I remember feeling frozen there... #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
RT @PRan: T1 | CPD should be mandatory. But I do not think a law is essential. Professional organisations can make it happen #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@endocrine_witch But it's still very much important the professional societies listen to their members very much on this. Learning from our american counterparts. The forum I frequent (not sure if selection bias here) shows nothing but resentment #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
A very good question! Maybe someone can answer. If CPD is to be mandated by organizations, what happens to those who don't belong to orgs? Is that possible? To practice w/o org membership ex. PMA? #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T1. I have witnessed horror stories when people from provinces would go to Manila for CPD courses, then be denied entry because they were a few minutes late. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
I attend these! Theyโ€™re really great. #Healthxph
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
Gave a talk at a gathering of the CPD Council sometime ago, suggested the online option as well. #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
T1. The law in spirit is good, but the implementation is exploitative. Also, they advertise only CPD courses and do not put as much emphasis on other ways to get them (grad studies, publications, etc). #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@SabiNiDok @Jetlax I don't think so because you're expected to get CPD after you pass the medical boards. To make sure you remain updated even after school. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T1. The law in spirit is good, but the implementation is exploitative. Also, they advertise only CPD courses and do not put as much emphasis on other ways to get them (grad studies, publications, etc). #HealthXPH
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
Sad. Not everyone gets easy funding to attend. #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@helenvmadamba @PhilPharmacists Definitely! #HealthXPh
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@JKatzaman @endocrine_witch I was a speaker for an HIV forum today, squeezed it in between my classes for my master's degree... I guess my HIV advocacy has become like a 3rd job (the 1st being my hospital work and the 2nd being my teaching job) #HealthXPH but I am extremely happy and fulfilled about it! https://t.co/PUhURhL2ay
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@ShereesePubHlth Take pictures and post while you're there! Enjoy the sights! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas I accumulated certificates but in the end I submitted my certification for professorial chair as it seemed easier to do that. There's varying ways of showing proof. #healthxph I wonder about research.
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
@endocrine_witch @MajorDecision @DrJeromeCleofas How do these "working breaks" work? #healthxph
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
Hi, I am Pandula joining-in from Sri Lanka. Had a great #digitalhealthwk with @amarcelo also in town for #AeHIN #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
Yes, doctors should be online so that patients have access to them. #HealthXPH social media allows doctors to study at their own pace and their own place. https://t.co/Sl2fmf6y21
Shereese Maynard, MS; MBA ๐Ÿ˜ท She/Her @ShereeseMayMba
@helenvmadamba 59 degrees but it feels warmer #HealthXPH https://t.co/BL48mmsJTM
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@HPEducatorPH @MajorDecision @DrJeromeCleofas A topic is assigned to the "working break" to get more units. If the event is 9-5 but you take 30 min am snack, 30 min pm snack then that takes out one hour or 1 CPD unit - so I was told. #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@SabiNiDok It's a bit distinct for the RPh and MD professions because ethically and legally speaking, you can't practice both at the same time (in the context of the diagnostician/prescriber role of MDs and dispensing role of RPhs) #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Thanks for answering T1 everyone. Let's go to T2. How can we ensure continuing professional development if it is not mandated by law? #healthxph
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
@jimlopez875 Agree, Jim. And their webinar calendar is quite loaded these days! #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
I ask T2 because there are bills filed at the Phil Senate and congress to repeal the CPD act. so T2. How can we ensure continuing professional development if it is not mandated by law? #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch FYI. #HealthXPH https://t.co/cqwI8TI6m0
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@HPEducatorPH @jimlopez875 The very first UPMed webinar years back was by me and @amarcelo. And the topic was "how to conduct a webinar." :) #healthxph
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@Jetlax @endocrine_witch True, if Im listening to a speaker, I dont want a grumbling seatmate. But then, sometimes one needs that โ€œpushโ€ to discover something na โ€œoh, this is interesting palaโ€. We wont know until they try.... or are forced. Haha. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: @endocrine_witch FYI. #HealthXPH https://t.co/cqwI8TI6m0
rosarosa @rospzamora
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas T1 I agree po. I am currently taking up Masters but I really don't have idea how this be made into CPD units. Also in UERM, our MedEduc Department is very active in giving us workshops. But I don't see any CPD units in some. #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch I would agree that CPD be mandated by law to compel professionals to keep themselves updated, but the government should include in its IRR ways how HCPs can comply without CPD units being a racket by societies for fund-raising. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas Seems easy enough ... if you have the publication. Doing the research is the hard part ;) #healthxph
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
@endocrine_witch @MajorDecision @DrJeromeCleofas I see. Smart way to optimize. #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
I've frequently thought of this as well. Sunk in that me being able to do this (alternatives like resource person certs, etc) in my profession may be more the exception than the norm. Most still opt for the expensive seminar route #HealthXPh
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
It should be related to your field of practice, yes thatโ€™s right. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@dbonesetter @DrJeromeCleofas The masters' degree will fall under the academic track of CPD so yes you can claim for that when you finish it. #healthxph
Nomar Alviar @HPEducatorPH
Gotta sign off, sadly. Looking forward to backreading tonight's chat. #healthxph
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch Yes, CPD points will have a high monetary value & will be exploited by some organisations for sure #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
T2. My suggestion is not to put pressure on individual professionals, but to companies that hire them. Accrediting bodies of schools and hospitals MUST ensure that the institutions are providing competent, relevant to professional employees. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@pinay_po_ako @giasison There's that, but maybe learn something new? #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T2. My suggestion is not to put pressure on individual professionals, but to companies that hire them. Accrediting bodies of schools and hospitals MUST ensure that the institutions are providing competent, relevant to professional employees. #HealthXPH
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
@endocrine_witch @pinay_po_ako True. #healthxph
JR Ong @jrong13
A senior colleague told me before that the purpose of CPD should be to ensure that the basic competencies of a general physician. Hence, a cardio should still be knowledgeable how to deliver babies, or public health MDs like us still know how to read ECG. #HealthXPH
Witch Doctor @witch_md
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T2. My suggestion is not to put pressure on individual professionals, but to companies that hire them. Accrediting bodies of schools and hospitals MUST ensure that the institutions are providing competent, relevant to professional employees. #HealthXPH
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
I think part of the solution is to iron out the CPD provider accreditation process. It takes too long. #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@_eppacheco @JKatzaman @endocrine_witch thank you po mam, I am also excited about the enthusiasm of the students to volunteer to become motivators for HIV screening. #healthxph we need to maintain this level of energy so that we can spread like wildfire, just like HIV! https://t.co/VfyIKW6arH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas Hmmm ... something to think about. And these institutions like hospitals also need accreditation. So that can be an accreditation requirement? #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @icp_md: I think part of the solution is to iron out the CPD provider accreditation process. It takes too long. #HealthXPH
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch T1. Yes. The objective of the CPD Act is good. There is so much to learn. One saying goes, "if you stop learning, you stop growing." But good intentions are not enough. This law must be properly implemented and regulated. #HealthXPh
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@SabiNiDok @Jetlax Yes, medical schools are often accredited as CPD providers, but they need to apply for accreditation. #HealthXPH
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
@PRan @helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch In Sri Lanka, are CPD units also required for license renewal? #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
T2. per medical society requirements? Its the society that knows whatโ€™s the best, practical & less expensive way for members to achieve CPD. #Healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@icp_md And there's also the expense - I hear even if accredited CPD provider, when requesting CPD units for your activity, fees are still to be paid. #healthxph
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
T2 Not mandating continuing professional development puts the credibility of healthcare providers up for grabs. Who's to know if their doctors are qualified to diagnose new diseases? #HealthXPh
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@pinay_po_ako @giasison This would be what people would have told me 2 years ago about a pharmacist attending psychiatry conventions Lots of intersections we may not be aware of! #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Really?! #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@PRan @endocrine_witch Are conferences and postgraduate courses in Sri Lanka offered for free? #healthxph
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
Yup and quite expensive too. #healthxph
rosarosa @rospzamora
@DrJeromeCleofas @endocrine_witch Sorry but can you please enlighten me. If there are 10 authors in a single study, only 1 CPD unit is given to each? #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch Yes. DOH, Philhealth etc for hospitals; CHED and PAASCU, AACUP for schools #HealthXPH
Don Karlito @iamkarlm
RT @giasison: Agree. And there are CPDs offered for free, just like what UP Manilaโ€™s Webinars does. #healthxph
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@amarcelo @helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch No, it is not mandatory #HealthXPH
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
But absolutely nothing wrong with it, itโ€™s nice to learn and itโ€™s a continuing process. #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
1000 per run for us #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@dbonesetter @DrJeromeCleofas And to complicate matters, what if the authors don't belong to the same profession (doctors and nurses for example), what happens? #healthxph
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
@amarcelo, Sri Lanka attempted at introducing CPD for licencing re-validation but it did not materialize. #HealthXPH
patrick moral @ericmoral
@endocrine_witch T2: societies have a duty to supplement governmental efforts at keeping professionals up to date. The stick apparently works a little better than the carrot in the local setting. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @ericmoral: @endocrine_witch T2: @endocrine_witch T2: societies have a duty to supplement governmental efforts at keeping professionals up to date. The stick apparently works a little better than the carrot in the local setting. #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@Pandula77 @amarcelo Really? What happened? There are efforts to repeal the current CPD law of the Philippines. #healthxph
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch They are not free in Sri Lanka But most of the Postgraduate courses are subsidised & conferences do offer lower rates for students including those in postgraduate courses #HealthXPH
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
@helenvmadamba, Postgraduate programmes in medical education in Sri Lanka are free for doctors. #HealthXPH
Dr. Gia Sison @giasison
This ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ #healthxph
JR Ong @jrong13
Because CPD is a requirement to renew license as generalist (nurse, MD, etc). Personally subscribes to this opinion. #HealthXPH
Lynn @ADRENALPIT
@endocrine_witch #healthxph i believe this is existing already. MDs in clinical practice are surely aware of the need to update regularly.
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas Yes, I think there should be other options provided to gain CPD units aside from very expensive conferences. #Healthxph how about medical missions and community work? self-directed learning? taking certifying examinations? #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@ADRENALPIT The question is does this awareness translate to actually updating ;) #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch Yes! And lesser red tapes for institutions to apply their events for CPD I guess. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Wow, about 20 min left to #HealthXPH tweet chat. Here's T3. Propose CPD activities for healthcare professionals, that are currently not given credit by the Professional Regulation Commission.
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
T2: we can ensure continuing professional education by scanning local health needs and creating content to fill the knowledge gaps #HealthXPH
rosarosa @rospzamora
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas Research is hardwork. In @psmidorg we do a lot of clinical practice guidelines, and more often there are at least 15 contributing members from different orgs. How will that translate into CPD points? #HealthXPH
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
@helenvmadamba, That is for government doctors. #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch True! I think you can, but the allotment of units would be problematic. And documentation also. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas The law has been enforced for about more than a year ... maybe we should give it time? I don't know. #healthxph
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
T2: CPD should not exist for its own sake. It is to address societal need. #HealthXPH
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@dbonesetter @DrJeromeCleofas @endocrine_witch I think this one is also a form of how CPD is "exploited" - getting CPD units by volunteering to be a proctor/facilitator for licensure exams. Does it meet the good intention of the CPD Act? #HealthXPh https://t.co/FyUj4gqtui
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
By the way, before I forget, tonight's topic on CPD at #HealthXPH was suggested by my husband @Nephron826 :)
patrick moral @ericmoral
T2: I am sure we are familiar with the certificate attendee where registration and not attendance equates to CPD. Personal responsibility has to be emphasized. #HealthXPH
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
Currently, International Conferences/Education/Trainings taken abroad are not credited. โ€œPersonal Developmentโ€ track is hazy. #HealthXPH
Lynn @ADRENALPIT
@endocrine_witch #healthxph some hospitals require Mds to submit CME credits every year . This is to โ€œ forceโ€ everyone to comply . Otherwise accreditation status will be affected
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
T2: professional societies, as the steward of their domain, should create numerous opportunities for CPD. And it should be free or low cost #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@dbonesetter @endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas It takes a lot of effort to apply for CPD units. You need an institution accredited as CPD provider, you need an instructional design with program, complete CVs and PRC IDs of speakers and notarized completed application form + payment. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@MajorDecision @dbonesetter @DrJeromeCleofas Yup, I was puzzled by that too :( what can you learn from proctoring. Are you expected to answer the questions too while waiting ;) #healthxph
JR Ong @jrong13
@endocrine_witch @icp_md I believe the cost for professionals is the reason why CPD is unpopular. I personally hope the professional societies can address access to CPD activities. #HealthXPH
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
RT @Pandula77: @helenvmadamba, Postgraduate programmes in medical education in Sri Lanka are free for doctors. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Yup, same suggestion by @DrJeromeCleofas too. That will work :) #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@SabiNiDok Or worse, some trainings keep saying the same thing over and over again without any updates or revisions. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @jrong13: @endocrine_witch @icp_md I believe the cost for professionals is the reason why CPD is unpopular. I personally hope the professional societies can address access to CPD activities. #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch Maybe. If it does not get repealed, I hope it gets better. #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@endocrine_witch @icp_md Is there a standard/rule/scale po ba how much points per event? I heard a story for a small event when they were told theyd be given X points but on follow up, it was less. They insisted & brought the original paper they scribbled on before. #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@JKatzaman @endocrine_witch Congratulations on your new job, Jim! #HealthXPH
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
RT @amarcelo In Sri Lanka, govt is very proactive in creating opportunities for CPD #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch Agreed. Even sitting in the conference hall does not equate to learning. Maybe CPDs should be granted to people who live tweet during conferences. ๐Ÿ˜ #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@rheumarhyme @icp_md Scribbled? Huhuhu that's hard for the organizers because their attendees will complain. #healthxph
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
@ericmoral @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch totally agree! #healthxph
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas No question on intent, but I wonder if the currently achieved outcomes (or anticipated ones) are enough to balance the burden the current version has placed. If not, then the bare minimum would be to revisit and take a much more critical look #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
There you go :) one way to get more healthcare professionals on Twitter! #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas I highly doubt that HCPs would see research as worth their effort and time just to gain CPD units. It would be easier to sit thru a day or two of postgraduate course instead (just to get it over with)... may shopping pa! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @Jetlax: @endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas No question on intent, but I wonder if the currently achieved outcomes (or anticipated ones) are enough to balance the burden the current version has placed. If not, then the bare minimum would be to revisit and take a much more critical look #HealthXPh
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
T3. I agree with doc @helenvmadamba, medical mission and community service work! #HealthXPH
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
@jrong13 @endocrine_witch Encouraging providers willing to conduct trainings with minimal fees would help. At present, they have to go though a lot of bureaucracy. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@DrJeromeCleofas @helenvmadamba It's not included? Because I heard before that it can be credited though I don't know how to show proof. #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@Pandula77 That's good to hear. There are very few CPD providers that I know of who would be willing to offer courses with CPD units for free. Nothing is free anymore. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
T3 Propose CPD activities for healthcare professionals, that are currently not given credit by the Professional Regulation Commission. #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas In essence CPD covers skills and knowledge. Widening the scope as you have mentioned along with a significant portion allocated to CME should cover the bases of development. #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@endocrine_witch @icp_md ah no doc from the cpd provider yung scribbled paper na usapan originally X points, then organizer came back binigay less (X-1) points, so pinakita nya yung papel na โ€œusapanโ€ nila. hahahah. Ayun they got the X points ๐Ÿคฃ... #healthxph
rosarosa @rospzamora
@endocrine_witch @MajorDecision @DrJeromeCleofas Ay wow. How many units kaya? Tapos published research gets 10 cpd units to be shared by authors? Are they not aware how research is conducted? Lots of elements involved: budget, time, construction of review of related lit, stat analysis, etc. #HealthXPH
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
T2 | Professional organisations should encourage members to participate in CPD activities to continue their membership in the organisation #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Huh? Why is that :( #healthxph If I got a certificate from attending a congress abroad, there's the expense of traveling already and then there's still a fee to pay?
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas Maybe #HealthXPH can link with a CPD provider and make Saturday night tweetchats carry CPD units, how about that mam?
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Tagging @ericmoral :) #healthxph
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch @icp_md Fees for the CPD providers. #HealthXPh https://t.co/etL9bbdgor
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@rheumarhyme @icp_md Yeah I got that ... but I was thinking, di man lang typed or formal letter letting you know your approved units? #healthxph
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
T3. Online learning is not being maximized. Iโ€™m not sure if PRC has a process on accrediting providers of online courses. #healthxph
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@TawengMd @endocrine_witch @icp_md oh. then thats a very weird story from my organizer friend. buti nalang she had the proof of X points. #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
T3. Joining (online and offline) advocacy work and campaigns. For online advocacies, it's easy to secure evidence because... it's online. ๐Ÿ˜ #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T3. Joining (online and offline) advocacy work and campaigns. For online advocacies, it's easy to secure evidence because... it's online. ๐Ÿ˜ #HealthXPH
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
T3 I can't think of a way to credit raw self-directed learning (as what I've been doing for the longest time) without making it bureaucratic with all the documentation requirements :/ #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @MajorDecision: @endocrine_witch @icp_md Fees for the CPD providers. #HealthXPh https://t.co/etL9bbdgor
Jarvin Tan @Jetlax
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T3. Joining (online and offline) advocacy work and campaigns. For online advocacies, it's easy to secure evidence because... it's online. ๐Ÿ˜ #HealthXPH
patrick moral @ericmoral
@endocrine_witch T3: equivalency for foreign CMEs vetted by locally recognized societies to avoid predatory conferences #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@endocrine_witch @icp_md thats what my organizer friend said. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ so we printed our flyers blank. โ€œCPD:_ _โ€œ #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@Jetlax We have to get creative. Our organizations should think about how we can do this. #healthxph
JR Ong @jrong13
@endocrine_witch Hopefully @coursera, @edXOnline, and @FutureLearn can apply for local Philippine CPD accreditation for their courses. A good market/business idea perhaps for them (lots of professionals here willing to pay USD50 for a good course). #healthXPH
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
@jimlopez875 @helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch Thanks, Jim. #healthxph
Raymond Francis Sarmiento, MD @rfrsarmiento
@endocrine_witch #HealthXPh T1. Yes. Without a law, people have tendency to gravitate towards the easy & convenient. And bec of number of patients that need to be served (~ 110 M Filipinos) combined w lack of licensed HCPs, which is aggravated by maldistribution, then gov't should ensure quality.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@rheumarhyme @icp_md Maybe because of so much backlog? I think you need to apply 45 days before? #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@helenvmadamba @Pandula77 Surprisingly, we have quite a number of free postgrad courses now here in Manila #HealthXPH
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch T3. How about participating in #HealthXPh and other organized tweet chat about healthcare/health/medicine to get CPD units? Haha
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@endocrine_witch @icp_md the rules about getting accredited as a CPD provider are also changing. now they are requiring online applications. renewal of accreditation. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @ericmoral: @endocrine_witch T3: @endocrine_witch T3: equivalency for foreign CMEs vetted by locally recognized societies to avoid predatory conferences #HealthXPH
Lynn @ADRENALPIT
@endocrine_witch #healthxph shortcoming of current CPD : non registered or failure to register an academic activity isnt credited . It doesnโ€™t make sense when such act is held in the hospital .
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@TawengMd I see. Maybe because the organizers have to pay fees again to have CPD units for both MDs and nurses. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @jrong13: @endocrine_witch Hopefully @coursera, @edXOnline, and @FutureLearn can apply for local Philippine CPD accreditation for their courses. A good market/business idea perhaps for them (lots of professionals here willing to pay USD50 for a good course). #healthXPH
Alvin Marcelo @amarcelo
T3: CPD on health informatics....#HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @rfrsarmiento: @endocrine_witch #HealthXPh T1. Yes. Without a law, people have tendency to gravitate towards the easy & convenient. And bec of number of patients that need to be served (~ 110 M Filipinos) combined w lack of licensed HCPs, which is aggravated by maldistribution, then gov't should ensure quality.
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@_eppacheco @ericmoral @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch But from my experience, by live tweeting we do lose concentrating on the whole thing and lose some parts of the event as we concentrate on tweeting #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@MajorDecision @endocrine_witch TRUUUE! And the evidence is easy to produce! (screenshots) hahaha #HealthXPH
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@endocrine_witch I'm sure we all learn from these med tweet chats. So why not? #HealthXPh
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@DrJeromeCleofas Yes, this would be a good idea, so that the stress is on the institution as well, to provide these courses at subsidized rates so that the individual HCPs don't have to should the bulk of the expense. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Aba aba :) my heart! #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@endocrine_witch Super agree. This is professional development. Aside from simply what we know, how we transmit and translate what we know should be part of CPD! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @ericmoral: @endocrine_witch Super agree. This is professional development. Aside from simply what we know, how we transmit and translate what we know should be part of CPD! #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@endocrine_witch @icp_md ๐Ÿค” im not sure she applied that ahead. Will clarify that one po. ๐Ÿค— ang toxic pala po! and i thought i get stressed with moderating or just speaking! #lessons #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
Last 4 mins to #HealthXPH tweet chat. Closing thoughts on CPD?
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: T2. My suggestion is not to put pressure on individual professionals, but to companies that hire them. Accrediting bodies of schools and hospitals MUST ensure that the institutions are providing competent, relevant to professional employees. #HealthXPH
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
@MajorDecision @endocrine_witch I think the CPD points offered would be far less than what you'd get if you spent the same amount of time at a formal CPD activity #HealthXPh
patrick moral @ericmoral
@PRan @_eppacheco @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch I live tweet during slide breaks of the presenter or in between speakers. As @endocrine_witch says, helps fight off jet lag #HealthXPH
Lynn @ADRENALPIT
@endocrine_witch #healthxph got your point Iris , but i note also that there is always more personal here. Updating improves personal skill knowledge etc. So its a personal loss if i donโ€™t update .
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@chelitvaleramd @PRan @_eppacheco @ericmoral When I live tweet while attending a conference in another time zone, that's how I keep awake :) #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@ADRENALPIT That's true. We do care about our patients so we know we have to update to give the best care. #healthxph
rosarosa @rospzamora
T3 How about if one holds a position in academe or hospital, like being dept chair or training officer or chief of clinics or head of infection conteol or ierb? We also need to read about current evidence on issues to make good policies. #HealthXPH
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
@TawengMd @endocrine_witch @icp_md oh this sounds better than CPD:____ will suggest it to her next time! ..... #healthxph
Colin Hung @Colin_Hung
@PRan @_eppacheco @ericmoral @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch I find live-tweeting helps me retain more. Four me it's no different than writing/typing notes. Studies show that you forget most of what you hear after 4hrd unless you write it down. You can consider live tweets = public notes :) #HealthXPh
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan @MajorDecision I would think so too ;) #healthxph but there's also a move to accredit social media activity for academic promotion.
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
@TawengMd @endocrine_witch @rheumarhyme That it is why it pays to check the PRC website re status of their application for accreditation. If pending, you run the risk of not getting any credit. #HealthXPh
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@helenvmadamba @endocrine_witch @DrJeromeCleofas Those are included. Socio-civic activities like medical missions and outreach programs earn 1 CPD unit per hour. #HealthXPh
patrick moral @ericmoral
@_eppacheco @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch Maybe more than the number of tweets, itโ€™s just a bit of proof that we listened? ๐Ÿ˜ #healthXPH
JR Ong @jrong13
Can local professional societies tap https://t.co/5rPaH1AYKD platform? Taking up now implementation research course by WHO. Recently took a public health course by @EdinburghUni moderated by @AlbertDomingo #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
I've been speaker for a lot of sessions, most pro bono, esp if it is HIV awareness advocacy. We hope that sessions like these can be converted to CPD units for those who attend for free, targetting those who cannot afford expensive postgrad courses #healthxph https://t.co/NPCjZ11GJc
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
oh so there's also that. I think more manpower may be needed. #healthxph
Jim Katzaman - Get Debt-Free One Family at a Time @JKatzaman
In closing, there could be overall continuing professional development along with that geared toward specialties. At both levels, there should be standards to meet to assure basic levels of knowledge and care. #HealthXPh
๐“›๐“ฒ๐“ผ๐“ช t. ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿงญ @rheumarhyme
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@icp_md @TawengMd @rheumarhyme Oh wow :( what will you then tell the attendees? #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@Colin_Hung @PRan @_eppacheco @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch Especially for kinesthetic learners. And it helps those who are visual learners in return. #HealthXPH
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
In spirit, CPD law is good, but the implementation can be exploitative. If it should continue as a law, we hope that structures and procedures are improved, and the burden should be eased off the professionals #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
And it's 10:01 pm Manila time. Thanks for participating in the #HealthXPH tweet chat everyone! Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
RT @DrJeromeCleofas: In spirit, CPD law is good, but the implementation can be exploitative. If it should continue as a law, we hope that structures and procedures are improved, and the burden should be eased off the professionals #HealthXPH
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch @ericmoral I'm sure CPD providers can invite #HealthXPH as part of their CSR to provide CPD units for those who can't afford to pay for expensive postgrad courses...
Colin Hung @Colin_Hung
@ericmoral @_eppacheco @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch It's TRUE. I've seen a few speakers reach out via Twitter to thank those that live-tweeted for helping to get their message out to a wider audience. #HealthXPH
MD means Major Decision @MajorDecision
@dbonesetter I agree! Currently only professorial chairs are granted CPD units. 15 units per year. #HealthXPh
patrick moral @ericmoral
@helenvmadamba @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch I agree. Offsets the concerns on costs and conferences that take advantage. #HealthXPH
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
With all its problems, the timing of the move to have the CPD Law repealed is suspect. The intention is worthwhile. The kinks can still be ironed out. #healthxph
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@endocrine_witch Thanks doc! Have a great weekend. #Healthxph ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒธ๐ŸŒธ
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
@ericmoral @endocrine_witch Doc Eric, I think we should collaborate with #healthxph about this idea.
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@icp_md Politics coming into play. #healthxph
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@MajorDecision @dbonesetter Yup and there are few of those to go around and many deserving. #healthxph
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@endocrine_witch @icp_md @TawengMd So far i think its become the norm to wait. The final certificate does have the points. They have not had a complaint from the attendees theyve organized ......for now. #Healthxph
Lynn @ADRENALPIT
@endocrine_witch #Healthxph the intention is good but the implementing rules are haphazardly done. One more thing , expensive to most .
patrick moral @ericmoral
@Colin_Hung @_eppacheco @chelitvaleramd @endocrine_witch Great idea. Very millennial with instant feedback. #HealthXPH
rosarosa @rospzamora
@endocrine_witch See you next time po! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@ADRENALPIT I agree. #healthxph
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
@endocrine_witch @TawengMd @rheumarhyme If they donโ€™t get accredited on time, some would say that you can still file it under โ€˜self-directed learningโ€™- which, as previously alluded to, remains very hazy. #HealthXPH
Pandula Siribaddana (MBBS. PhD) @Pandula77
A very informative and interesting chat. Thanks #healthxph
Jerome Cleofas, PhD, RN (he/they) โ™ฅ๏ธ๐Ÿงก๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’œ @SocioJCleofasRN
@endocrine_witch Thanks Doc Iris for moderating! It was an engaging tweetchat! #HealthXPH PS. Dami naming hugot hehe
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When youโ€™ve just finished #Healthxph but #ACR18 is starting & youโ€™re too excited to sleep but you should since you are on the other side of the planet. LOL
patrick moral @ericmoral
@endocrine_witch Glad to have learned and participated this time! To more #HealthXPH CPDs in the future!
Prasad Ranatunga @PRan
Very interesting Tweetchat Really looking forward to joining more #healthxph
Helen Madamba @helenvmadamba
this is a great evidence for outcome-based education. presence is not enough. there should be an output like live tweets #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@ericmoral Thanks :) happy to have you here at #HealthXPH always
Jose Carlo Valencia @icp_md
Finally decided to stop lurking after so long. Haha. #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@icp_md We're on every Saturday at the same time ;) #healthxph
patrick moral @ericmoral
@endocrine_witch Learned from the best @endocrine_witch ! Happy to broaden my perspectives! #HealthXPH
Iris Thiele Isip Tan MD, MSc @endocrine_witch
@PRan Thanks!! @amarcelo has always wanted a tweet chat for health informatics and @WeAreAeHIN . #healthxph
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Woohoo! ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿป #healthxph
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