#NephJC Transcript

Healthcare social media transcript of the #NephJC hashtag.
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Rush Nephrology @Rush_Nephrology
RT @KidneyBea_n: Join us tonight for #NephJC https://t.co/FSTe9Am8I8
Rush Nephrology @Rush_Nephrology
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Ernesto LopezAlmaraz @kidney_doctor
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
#NephJC tonight at 9 pm Some Canadian $ estimates from @CADTH_ACMTS https://t.co/xWeOhT6M00 Should we even do incentre nocturnal any more? ๐Ÿค” https://t.co/kR7gaw5CXV
CADTH @CADTH_ACMTS
RT @hswapnil: #NephJC tonight at 9 pm Some Canadian $ estimates from @CADTH_ACMTS https://t.co/xWeOhT6M00 Should we even do incentre nocturnal any more? ๐Ÿค” https://t.co/kR7gaw5CXV
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
RT @KidneyBea_n: Join us tonight for #NephJC https://t.co/FSTe9Am8I8
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Toniya Singh MD FACC @DrToniyaSingh
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Kartik Kalra MD,FNKF,FASN @kkalra_22
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Nikhil Shah MBBS DNB(IM, Neph)๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ @dr_nikhilshah
Got med student @Mike_Strader (future nephron) interested in #nephjc and #nephtwitter. Maybe we can get him next year for #NSMC too.
George Clinical @george_clinical
RT @NephJC: #NephJC chat tonight/tomorrow Summary: https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo Full text: https://t.co/lFTvhvOign #VisualAbstract : https://t.co/mHEtv2QYnr
Catherine Clase ๐Ÿ˜ท๐ŸŒˆ @CMClase
RT @hswapnil: #NephJC tonight at 9 pm Some Canadian $ estimates from @CADTH_ACMTS https://t.co/xWeOhT6M00 Should we even do incentre nocturnal any more? ๐Ÿค” https://t.co/kR7gaw5CXV
Pablo Garcia @PabloGarciaMD
RT @KidneyBea_n: Join us tonight for #NephJC https://t.co/FSTe9Am8I8
Pablo Garcia @PabloGarciaMD
RT @NephJC: https://t.co/Gs7hTUAQna #NephJC discusses the time on dialysis and QoL: https://t.co/Gs7hTUAQna #NephJC discusses the time on dialysis and QoL: the ACTIVE trial
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
#NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
AdvocatePICUFellows @ACHPRPICU
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Penn Kidney @PennKidney
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
ERGOT @Johns Hopkins @ERGOT_JH
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Bea Concepcion @KidneyBea_n
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
RT @KidneyBea_n: Join us tonight for #NephJC https://t.co/FSTe9Am8I8
NBLU: Renal Leaders @NBLUniv
RT @NephJC: #NephJC in just under 90 minutes! Not too late to read the summary https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo or scan the #VisualAbstract https://t.co/3H4hev78Ah
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @hswapnil: #NephJC tonight at 9 pm Some Canadian $ estimates from @CADTH_ACMTS https://t.co/xWeOhT6M00 Should we even do incentre nocturnal any more? ๐Ÿค” https://t.co/kR7gaw5CXV
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Join us on tonight's #NephJC ACTIVE: Trial of โฌ†๏ธ hemodialysis hours & QOL @NCCIH_Josie ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/5oVBsQkLmd https://t.co/RmzQUtXEcN
Gonzalo Bautista Prieto. MD ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ @GonzalBautistaP
RT @edgarvlermamd: Join us on tonight's #NephJC ACTIVE: Trial of โฌ†๏ธ hemodialysis hours & QOL @NCCIH_Josie ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/5oVBsQkLmd https://t.co/RmzQUtXEcN
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
#NephJC in 10 minutes on outcomes in extended hemodialysis. Join us! https://t.co/eT7eq4XHvQ
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @rheault_m: #NephJC in 10 minutes on outcomes in extended hemodialysis. Join us! https://t.co/eT7eq4XHvQ
Soy Argel @SoyArgel
RT @rheault_m: #NephJC in 10 minutes on outcomes in extended hemodialysis. Join us! https://t.co/eT7eq4XHvQ
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Itโ€™s 9 PM ET, Tuesday. Welcome to this edition of #NephJC!
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Let's get ready to rumble! #NephJC https://t.co/Wi1hIYDdl4
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
My name is Bea Concepcion, #NSMC Intern Class 2017, based in Nashville TN. I will be tonight's Journal Club host! #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Looking forward to #nephjc this morning discussing the ACTIVE trial. interesting to @song and anyone interested in haemodialysis.
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
RT @NephJC: Let's get ready to rumble! #NephJC https://t.co/Wi1hIYDdl4
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Please introduce yourselves and reveal any relevant conflicts of interest (COI) #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
Let's do this @KidneyBea_n night on #NephJC
B. Wagner, M.D. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @Wagner_Nephro
Brent Wagner, fellowship director, UT Health San Antonio. #nephjc
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
@NephJC Hi #NephJC, Anna Burgner, general nephrologist @VUMCKidney, No COI
Pablo Garcia @PabloGarciaMD
Hi all Pablo Garcia #NSCM 2017 intern in New Brunswick, NJ. No CoI. #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Swapnil Hiremath, nephrologist from @OttawaRenal #NephJC cofounder No CoI (would do nocturnal if on RRT) https://t.co/Fo8I6Ls2is
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
Aloha, Ivy Melgarejo medical resident from University of Hawaii. No COI. #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
Hi this is Silvi from Cincinnati no Coi #nephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
Matt Sparks, @DukeKidney Nephrologist. looking forward to chat. No COI #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Roger Rodby, Rush Chicago. COI: Once gave Grnd Rnds on HD, premise was Time was missing link to survival #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Cathy, Matt, Pablo, Silvi! #nephjc
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@NephJC Michelle here. Ped Neph UMN. No relevant COI. #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@PabloGarciaMD Hi Pablo... hope you are well #nephjc
B. Wagner, M.D. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @Wagner_Nephro
Hello Michelle, Edgar, Swapnil, Bea, et al. #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Brent! Thanks for joining us #nephjc
Kenar Jhaveri @kdjhaveri
Kenar Jhaveri @HofstraKidney nephrologist no COI #nephJC
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
Annabel Biruete, dietetic intern @BSUHealth. Interested in anything that improves QoL of #dialysis patients #nephjc๐Ÿ˜Š
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
Gary Singer in STL no COI #NephJC
Pravir @Proximal_Baxi
Pravir Baxi, Rush Nephrology. No COI. Excited for today's discussion! #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hello Swap!!! #nephjc
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
Nathaniel #NSMC intern & observationalist. No financial COI relevant to this discussion. #NephJC
B. Wagner, M.D. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @Wagner_Nephro
And Matt! #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@gratefull080504 checking in from tonight never on #dialysis but mom + two aunts were #patientengagement #patientadvocacy consulting #NephJC https://t.co/PLAXkK8aAe
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@NephRodby Hi Roger. #RushRenalRule #CometoKIDNEYcon @kidneycon #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Ivy from Hawaii! Thanks for coming! #nephjc
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
Hector Madariaga. No COI. From #PatriotsNation . Hello, everyone! #NephJC https://t.co/yZ3D6PurKA
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
If you are a lurker, please don't be shy (I've been there), and introduce yourself! #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
I am a transplant nephrologist @VUMCKidney and I have no conflicts of interest. #NephJC
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@BSUHealth And #NSMC intern! #nephjc
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Edgar Lerma, Chicago based Nephrologist #NephJC https://t.co/le8FO7PNGl
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@KidneyCathy Hi Cathy, how is the weather in Melbourne #nephjc
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
@NephJC Your welcome! #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@anniebelch Hi Annabel #nephjc
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
@NephJC Raymond Hsu from @UCSF no COI #nephjc
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@anniebelch Would extended hour dialysis put the renal dietitians out of business? #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Really looking forward to it! https://t.co/XbEFuowMzq
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Michelle, Anabel, Hector, Kenar, Gary... welcome! thanks for joining tonight #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@IvyM808 #Hawaii Hi Ivy #nephjc
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
@Nephro_Sparks Hi Matt. How are you? #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@happy_kidney Karthik!! #nephjc
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
@Nephro_Sparks @IvyM808 Hi Dr. Sparks. Glad to be back. #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Roger, Pravir... nice to see the Rush crowd here! #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
COI: Protalix @TapCloudHealth #nephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@HecmagsMD Doing well. might be out for ~10 min putting kids down... #nephjc
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
@anniebelch Hola, Annabel! Hope all is well. Viva Mexico! :) #nephjc
Pablo Garcia @PabloGarciaMD
@Nephro_Sparks Hi @Nephro_Sparks good #nephjc night
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Nathaniel, Karthik, Edgar! #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Forgot to include Boston tonight #nephJC https://t.co/snqMELY4en
Poyan Mehr @poyanmehr
Ali Poyan Mehr from Boston. Will be curiously lurking #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Fabulous crowd tonight! #NSMC interns out in full force too! #nephjc
saed shawar @kidneyshower
#nephjc saed shawar transplant nephrology fellow in VUMC
Manasi Bapat MD, FASN, FNKF๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @manasib33
Manasi Bapat, renal fellow, Mount Sinai, NY #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
@Nephro_Sparks average! #nephJC https://t.co/pjU6t3odBC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Raymond, Edgar, Ali, Kevin! #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Hi Matt, Bea, Edgar, Pravir, Swap, Kenar #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Saed!!! Welcome! #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@SaedShshawar welcome to #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Remember to add #NephJC to every tweet you want to be a part of the discussion and recorded in the journal club archive.
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@manasib33 Hi Manasi welcome@\ #nephjc
nilu desai @niludesai1
Nilu desai, nephrologist @CaseKidneys no coi.#nephJC
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
@SaedShshawar Welcome! #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Cathy Quinlan. Melbourne based Irish Paediatric Nephrologist and researcher #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
We recommend using tchat.io or https://t.co/rFoH4MVMzu. They filter out everything but the hashtag and add #NephJC to every tweet.
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
RT @NephJC: Remember to add #NephJC to every tweet you want to be a part of the discussion and recorded in the journal club archive.
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
Hi Hector and Annabel! #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@niludesai1 @CaseKidneys Welcome to #NephJC! #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
One of the core goals of #NephJC is to build a personal learning network, so push that follow button often in the next hour!
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
ACTIVE: Trial of โฌ†๏ธ hemodialysis hours & QOL #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/5oVBsQkLmd https://t.co/MSc4KURpHe
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
BTW... I finally participated in @GlomCon with @poyanmehr loved it #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Hi everyone esp my NSMC peeps! Doing a great job @KidneyBea_n #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Remember to sign up for the NephJC once a week (or less) newsletter and follow us on twitter. #NephJC https://t.co/5aumn8ImwF
Pablo Garcia @PabloGarciaMD
@anniebelch Hi Annabel #nephjc
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
@manasib33 Welcome to #NephJC!
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@NephRodby Hi @NephRodby ! #nephJC
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
RT @edgarvlermamd: ACTIVE: ACTIVE: Trial of โฌ†๏ธ hemodialysis hours & QOL #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/5oVBsQkLmd https://t.co/MSc4KURpHe
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Nilu, welcome! What a great crowd tonight #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Tonight's #NephJC is the ACTIVE Dialysis study looking at extended HD hours and its effect on quality of life.
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Nilu, @Rush_Nephrology 2011 graduate in the house #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@niludesai1 Hi Nilu #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Here is a link to the full text article kindly provided by @JASN_News free until Sept 15 #NephJC https://t.co/lFTvhvOign
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
#NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
If you haven't had a chance to read the excellent summary written by @hswapnil, here is the link #NephJC https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
ok ok. Enough with the Rush... Rush this... Rush that. #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: Here is a link to the full text article kindly provided by @JASN_News free until Sept 15 #NephJC https://t.co/lFTvhvOign
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
Hi Matt, Swap, Roger, Kenar, Edgar, Ali , Michelle, Karthik #nephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
And the visual abstract created by @KidneyBea_n #NephJC https://t.co/7zYv75SeIj
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
RT @NephJC: Remember to sign up for the NephJC once a week (or less) newsletter and follow us on twitter. #NephJC https://t.co/5aumn8ImwF
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
blah Rush... I kid I kid #nephjc
rob @renalpolitics
#nephJC high folks, neph from OR, no COI, read article while ago but mostly forgot :(,
Poyan Mehr @poyanmehr
@Nephro_Sparks @GlomCon Was great seeing you, Matt #NephJC
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
#NephJC Good morning from Bangalore. This is Arvind Canchi, Nephrologist. No COI but my pts prefer lesser HD.
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
RT @NephJC: If you haven't had a chance to read the excellent summary written by @hswapnil, here is the link #NephJC https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Rob, hi arvind, welcome! #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@niludesai1 @CaseKidneys Hi Nilu #nephJC
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
RT @Nephro_Sparks: ok ok. Enough with the Rush... Rush this... Rush that. #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
T0: To start things off, do you have patients on extended weekly HD hours (>=24hrs/wk), either in-center or home HD? #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@renalpolitics Hey Rob...How's life in Portland? #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Have you hear Michel Fischbach talk about his centre? 5/7 x 5hrs weekly. Taxi in. No dietary restrictions. Ed in centre. School in PM. https://t.co/GFLX4u2R5p
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Matt, finally join GlomCon and I miss it rounding? #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@arvindcanchi indeed. Maybe they are on to something? #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@manasib33 Welcome Mansai #nephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: T0: T0: To start things off, do you have patients on extended weekly HD hours (>=24hrs/wk), either in-center or home HD? #NephJC
Manan Doshi @manan_doshi
Hello.. #nephJC
rob @renalpolitics
@hswapnil portland is nice as always, sunny and hot now :) works for me. #nephjc
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
@happy_kidney Dr. Golper @VUMCKidney always has interesting insights in the dialysis world!#NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@NephRodby missed.. Gave a tour of my #NephMadness shrine that I call my office #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hello Manan, thanks for joining tonight! #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
The visual abstract that sums it up. Join us at #nephjc https://t.co/dhNsTQYv7X
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
T0: Yes, we have incentre nocturnal HD run by @annlbugeja at @ootawarenal (~16 pts) + home HD (~ 40 pts) #nephjc
Scherly Leon, MD @SLeonMD
Hello all! Scherly Leon, nephrologist in NYC. #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@KidneyCathy @KidneyBea_n Hi Cathy! Hope things good #nephJC
Scherly Leon, MD @SLeonMD
RT @NephJC: If you haven't had a chance to read the excellent summary written by @hswapnil, here is the link #NephJC https://t.co/NAbvetvGSo
Hector Madariaga, MD FASN ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @HecmagsMD
@manan_doshi Hello! Welcome! #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Scherly, thanks for joining us #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Any particular indications for prescribing extended weekly HD, or is it mainly patient preference? #NephJC
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
Not directly, but pts were always clear on letting me know that they did not like longer or more dialysis sessions #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@manan_doshi Hey Manan! Welcome from across the globe... #nephjc
Camilla Wong ้ปƒๆœ—ๆฌฃ ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ @camilla_wong
@NephJC @NephJC Lurking #NephJC tonight as a geriatrician currently in Moose Factory, ON. QoL always a relevant outcome of interest in my practice
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
1 pt on Home HD 5/7. 2 on in centre 3/7 x 3ish hrs. Most pts on PD. #nephjc https://t.co/qjnaQFw7pm
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
T0- have to confess that I do not round on home HD patients. We do have many but @RuedigerLehrich rounds on them #nephjc
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
What have we learned from FHN Trials from @KidneyNews Jan 2016 issue #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/Owe5XfbcVl https://t.co/3984zOslcB
NBLU: Renal Leaders @NBLUniv
RT @NephJC: And the visual abstract created by @KidneyBea_n #NephJC https://t.co/7zYv75SeIj
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@NephJC mostly for volume overload #nephJc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Camilla! Thanks for coming #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC We offer INHD for Wt/BP/Volume or PO4/PTH issues or QoL...Home HD mostly pt choice #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Great, busy as always, but taking a break from database entry to chill out with #nephjc! you? https://t.co/y15QS5Tlgb
Les @LBEBEN
RT @NephJC: Any particular indications for prescribing extended weekly HD, or is it mainly patient preference? #NephJC
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@NephJC T0:If we have kids under 1 year on HD, they usually need 4-5x/week x 4 hours dialysis to allow volume for nutrition #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
#UsualSuspects all here! slowly growing, ANYONE new to this please recruit more new! #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
#nephjc Good evening from Albuquerque. No COI
GeriMedJC @GeriMedJC
RT @NephJC: Tonight's #NephJC is the ACTIVE Dialysis study looking at extended HD hours and its effect on quality of life.
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
T0: I have patients on in center nocturnal HD. 24 hours a week. I recommend to people who want days free and don't want to do PD #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@VelezNephHepato @kidney_boy @NephRodby @dhekidney We are chatting on #NephJC now... jump in
Gabriel Gregorio Mendez Benitez @gabolino43
Importante https://t.co/PRAt3YsA3Y
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephRodby: #UsualSuspects all here! slowly growing, ANYONE new to this please recruit more new! #NephJC
susan kjos @suziekjos
Hi.This is Susan. I was on dialysis for one year. HD, then PD. I am now 21 months post transplant. Yay!!!#nephJC
Manasi Bapat MD, FASN, FNKF๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @manasib33
Thanks @nephrothaniel @hswapnil @KidneyCathy @Sil #nephjc. This is my first time here!
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
@hswapnil @annlbugeja This is why I always wish I'd spent some time in adult nephro when training instead of PICU. #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephJC We use nocturnal HD for big volume gainers as well as patient preference #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
I would Quality of life would be the goal rather than a #patientpreference #nephJC https://t.co/7rG5iTM2Zo
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Susan! Thanks for joining us #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@suziekjos Congrats Susan. #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
We have home HD program run by @TWhittier_Rush but no nocturnal #NephJC
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
FHN: Conventional 3x/ week HD vs More frequent In center HD (ASN BRCU 2012/ Dr Depner) #Nephpearls #NephJC https://t.co/E1enOO7bxI
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @gratefull080504: I would Quality of life would be the goal rather than a #patientpreference #nephJC https://t.co/7rG5iTM2Zo
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Why is that? #nephJC https://t.co/aBIWviJX6T
nilu desai @niludesai1
@NephJC Same as @silvishah Difficult to control volume status #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@gratefull080504 what if patient preference linked to QOL? #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
In @OttawaRenal INHD was really championed by @annlbugeja - https://t.co/VZAkoC7ziL Pts do love the freedom it provides #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Find out about some of the clinical side @HookeHaleKidney #nephjc is discussing HD for the next 45 mins.
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
RT @edgarvlermamd: FHN: FHN: Conventional 3x/ week HD vs More frequent In center HD (ASN BRCU 2012/ Dr Depner) #Nephpearls #NephJC https://t.co/E1enOO7bxI
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@suziekjos thanks for joining in Susan! #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Interesting that many of the nocturnal programs you all describe is for special needs not QOL #NephJC
Les @LBEBEN
Reading literature espousing daily dialysis; very compelling if within reach. https://t.co/8sGEo6omR3
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Yes @Nephro_Sparks #nephjc https://t.co/ePLMmjhiOA
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @anna_burgner: T0: T0: I have patients on in center nocturnal HD. 24 hours a week. I recommend to people who want days free and don't want to do PD #NephJC
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
RT @edgarvlermamd: FHN: FHN: Conventional 3x/ week HD vs More frequent In center HD (ASN BRCU 2012/ Dr Depner) #Nephpearls #NephJC https://t.co/E1enOO7bxI
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
Great @suziekjos #nephjc welcome! https://t.co/nakfw126HZ
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@gratefull080504 They said 3-4hrs x3/wk was enough for them. Cannot say all of my pts, but a big portion. #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
In centre or home HD? Any data/anecdote as to why patients prefer it? #nephjc https://t.co/voRFJQlPA6
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Patients want to do it at night and work during the day? At least for nocturnal HD #nephjc
nilu desai @niludesai1
@NephJC @silvishah Also have a couple patients that work during the day and prefer nocturnal #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@hswapnil @OttawaRenal @annlbugeja Despite this study's results my noc pts feel like they "woke up from a coma" #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
It is sad to say that do not know any better the value of more frequent treatments #nephJC https://t.co/JKoSEmRTtZ
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Is that a bad thing? #nephjc https://t.co/1E2JGuIsmZ
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@GarySingerMD Indeed, @annlbugeja 's patients say the same thing... #nephjc
rob @renalpolitics
#nephjc - curious what pts on nocturnal tend to say regarding the quality of sleep, etc. haven't met many so far.
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@GarySingerMD "Woke up from coma" elaborate plz #NephJC
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Hi everybody from Florida! No power here so I am on external battery on the dark hahaha #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Azra Bihorac #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
What if daily HD was assoc w/ something useful - like education/socialising - would that mk a difference? #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Azra! Wow, thanks for joining us. #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephRodby @GarySingerMD have had patients say a 'fog' lifted from their brain, heard often TBH (but #recall/selection bias) #nephjc
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@AzraBihorac Stay safe! Choosing to use your precious battery life for #NephJC should win a prize or something.
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
the dilemma arises when your reason for longer HD (lab parameter etc) has direct conflict with patients QOL #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Is nocturnal HD offered to all patients in your program? #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Wow that's dedication! Welcome and hope you're doing ok? #nephjc https://t.co/G7NutdtWLg
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@AzraBihorac wow! glad things are not that bad...thanks for joining in #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephRodby More energy and faster post HD rebound #nephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
And linking it to being able to work contribute to self esteem #nephjc https://t.co/mqIM4eeKYc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @KidneyCathy: What if daily HD was assoc w/ something useful - like education/socialising - would that mk a difference? #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@AzraBihorac HI Azra stay stafe #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
very true RT @Nephro_Sparks: the dilemma arises when your reason for longer HD (lab parameter etc) has direct conflict with pts QOL #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Thank you all good here lots of fallen trees! Kudos to NephJC great visual abstract #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Will share with my fellows #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
QFT @Nephro_Sparks: the dilemma arises when your reason for longer HD (lab parameter etc) has direct conflict with patients QOL #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thank you @Nephro_Sparks ! #nephJC https://t.co/Zz5DEPe1v1
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
This is great to hear RT @GarySingerMD: @NephRodby More energy and faster post HD rebound #nephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@hswapnil fog lifted meaning they sleep better than usual? #NephJC
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@KidneyCathy In children, extended dialysis is associated with improved growth. #NephJC https://t.co/gKY3DQHPnW https://t.co/MqdZgVcNsU
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
Can u Plz elaborate - not intuitive @KidneyCathy #nephjc https://t.co/B9Cxe3BK3t
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @rheault_m: @KidneyCathy In children, extended dialysis is associated with improved growth. #NephJC https://t.co/gKY3DQHPnW https://t.co/MqdZgVcNsU
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
RT @rheault_m: @KidneyCathy In children, extended dialysis is associated with improved growth. #NephJC https://t.co/gKY3DQHPnW https://t.co/MqdZgVcNsU
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@hswapnil This is the issue: My son is better off the more he studies but that does not improve his QOL #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
T1: Letโ€™s talk about the methods #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
*Associated* (sorry!) MT @rheault_m: In children, extended dialysis is associated with improved growth. #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@NephRodby @hswapnil Better cognitive performance #Nephjc (at least from those I happened to run across over the years - small N though)
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@NephJC @Nephro_Sparks I have difficulty keeping patients even for 4 hours #nephJC
Gates Colbert, MD @DoctorGates
Late to join. Dallas Nephrologist. #NSMC 2017. COI: Uremia eliminator MWF and TTS. #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
This was a prospective RCT to evaluate the effect of increasing weekly HD hours on QoL over 12 mos compared with standard HD. #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
RT @NephRodby: @hswapnil This is the issue: @hswapnil This is the issue: My son is better off the more he studies but that does not improve his QOL #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@DoctorGates Hi Gates #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Forgot about work! Paed neph here! Very true #nephjc https://t.co/uzEI5yOTwo
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@DoctorGates hey Gates - glad you could make it! #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Gates! Welcome! #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
+1 indeed @NephRodby: @hswapnil This is the issue: My son is better off the more he studies but that does not improve his QOL #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Now we are speaking in relevant outcomes Thank you @rheault_m #nephJC https://t.co/uYxooFqaNc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: This was a prospective RCT to evaluate the effect of increasing weekly HD hours on QoL over 12 mos compared with standard HD. #NephJC
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephJC @NephRodby Big difference: conventional in-center pts claim to feel "better" with less time and noc pts feel "better" with longer HD #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
@sharonteosl what do you think?#nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Thoughts on QoL as the primary outcome of the largest extended HD study to date? #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: Thoughts on QoL as the primary outcome of the largest extended HD study to date? #NephJC
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Here is my bias as AKI / critical care person- we are dealing with imperfect and imprecise techniques #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thank @ChristosArgyrop for speaking up for your patients Relevant patient outcomes #nephJC https://t.co/PNzRbhpPK9
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
More of mediocre does not bring greatness #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
QoL as outcome: I think smart given (a) mortality benefit implausible after FHN and (b) higher cost, so better QoL = cost effective #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
Patients absolutely hate dialysis - it disrupts their life - its hard to convince to extend dialysis longer #nephjc
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
MWF/TTS - extended HD...Still we not pee on sundays??? #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Absolutely - but need to make sure it doesn't negatively impact on education or socialisation - need to think of the whole picture. #nephjc https://t.co/7Djvahusnp
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
We need to focus on developing ng new techniques #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
which is why it is important to study QOL because if miserable then life extended a few years. is it worth it to them #nephjc
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@hswapnil Selling an RCT of extended time dialysis in kids is difficult. Still have to think QOL for kids/families #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
pls elaborate RT @AzraBihorac: More of mediocre does not bring greatness #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Early contender for #TWOTN RT @AzraBihorac: More of mediocre does not bring greatness #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Not giving more of lousy ones #nephjc
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@NephJC I think it's relevant, what pts care about. My only question was about the questionnaire they used. Not familiar with it... #nephjc
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@GarySingerMD @NephJC @NephRodby #NephJc same thing happens in HD vs PD. Keeping all options on the table ensures there is something that fits every pt's preference
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
read this #NephJC https://t.co/KYLpWyRQBD
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
great point MT @Nephro_Sparks: which is why it's impt to study QOL bec if miserable then life extended a few yrs is it worth it #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Quality of Life has been after thought in US For crying out there no guidelines for fluid management! #nephJC https://t.co/cUQIACYGqy
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
#NephJC https://t.co/MkP10OKaxz
Pravir @Proximal_Baxi
@NephJC I think its very important to study QoL in our patients #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
EQ-5D- questions on mobility, self-care, usual activities, pain/discomfort, anxiety/depression. Also a self-rating of health status #NephJC
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
RT @Nephro_Sparks: read this #NephJC https://t.co/KYLpWyRQBD
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
We are stuck as we invested in this bad relationship but we intuitively know we need to get out of it #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
EQ-5D was administered via telephone by a central interviewer blinded to treatment allocation #NephJC https://t.co/ba2ke7gk6y
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @Nephro_Sparks: which is why it is important to study QOL because if miserable then life extended a few years. is it worth it to them #nephjc
rob @renalpolitics
@KidneyCathy #nephjc - as in obtaining education or resources on HD? could we use those hours for pt improvement?
devika nair md msci @devimol
i think that is key @silvishah #nephjc https://t.co/euqHQSGLd8
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
I don't know this area-whether the EQ-5D is validated tool in ESRD population, especially from China #nephjc
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
This thought is universal. Most of my pts prefer 2/wkd HD than 3/wk. https://t.co/uZ0zANLCek
Bill Whittier @TWhittier_RUSH
We've had 4 Nocturnals in the past which were in studies- did well. No Nocturnals currently. https://t.co/C5zdSHcqf7
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@devimol @silvishah hey Devika - welcome back to #NephJC
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
How about this? Hosp taxi fr home to centre. Ed on HD. Group lunch. Taxi 2 school. Parent collects fr school. =>more HD+Ed+social #nephjc https://t.co/dgmQidpBh9
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
from @TWhittier_RUSH #NephJC https://t.co/kkEpRe2c3p
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
#NephJc https://t.co/c8D6z5vtaZ
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Hi Devika! #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Since the invention of dialysis what really changed ? What is real breakthrough? #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Not to say QOL is not important, but if you don't do it long enough to show clinical improvement, then how can you expect QOL better #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Good point! RT @DrRaymondHsu: I don't know this area-whether the EQ-5D is validated tool in ESRD population, especially from China #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
@silvishah The ans is not necessarily less HD tho, more how to make HD fit around life. Promote work/education in centre. #nephjc
Les @LBEBEN
Time variables on Kt/V favor daily dialysis treatment if reimbursed. https://t.co/ssHNmBQ0xJ
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Yes Thank you @silvishah ! I saw how #dialysis destroy my mother's life + my aunt's A reality check #dialysis is awful #NephJC https://t.co/BRYDDI0B2E
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
will @DanEdmonston or @JohnMusgrove join #NephJC maybe @NirajRKothari
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: EQ-5D- questions on mobility, self-care, usual activities, pain/discomfort, anxiety/depression. Also a self-rating of health status #NephJC
Gates Colbert, MD @DoctorGates
Worst sales pitch ever: Hey Mr. S, how about we extend your dialysis to 6 hours AND every night. Your Phos levels will be at goal! #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
RT @gratefull080504: Yes Thank you @silvishah ! I saw how #dialysis destroy my mother's life + my aunt's A reality check #dialysis is awful #NephJC https://t.co/BRYDDI0B2E
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephRodby longer = longer than 24 hours/week? or longer follow up in trial? #nephjc
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@arvindcanchi #nephjc I believe that preferences may change if the big picture is explained
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Are there any #dialysis patients on this chat? #nephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Authors in discussion state EQ-5D most widely used multiattribute utility instrument in the world and in CKD #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @NephRodby: Not to say QOL is not important, but if you don't do it long enough to show clinical improvement, then how can you expect QOL better #NephJC
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
perhaps EQ-5D does not capture the types of improved QOL like sleep/wakefulness others have mentioned #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Participants were incident/prevalent HD pts from AUS, CHN, CAN, NZL on std HD with life expectancy >6mos, no planned Ktx in 12 mos #NephJC
devika nair md msci @devimol
more reasons for QOL to be a more regularly-measured outcome #NephJc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Baseline characteristics: 52 yrs, 69% men, 31% DM, 66% Asian, 23% White, 88% in-center HD, 84% AVF #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
#Renalism #NephJC https://t.co/YtvhmeyRXV
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Yes this is called #patientengagement Thank you #nephJC https://t.co/mF3N5cxz6j
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Increased time lowered, PO4, K and raised Hgb. How can that not be good? #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Participants randomized 1:1 using an algorithm stratified by geographical region, dialysis setting and dialysis vintage #NephJC
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
What about access - its destroyed...#nephjc https://t.co/Siq0ewPB2P
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Participants and physicians were not blinded as this was not feasible, but end points were assessed in a blinded fashion #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Intervention: standard HD (at least 12 but <18 hrs/week) vs extended HD (at least 24 hrs/week), minimum 3 sessions/wk #NephJC
Arvind Canchi (Conjeevaram)๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ @arvindcanchi
@ChristosArgyrop Out here preferences depend on the financial state of the Pt since >70% pay from their pockets. #Nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
No requirements on session frequency or duration as long as total weekly HD hour requirements were fulfilledโ€” Any issues with this? #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Moreover was the questionnaire designed with patients ? #nephJC https://t.co/OujB45ybKt
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
same for #NephJC @gratefull080504 @suziekjos https://t.co/zaRbf8nBu3
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@DoctorGates You can sell it as: less pills, less dietary restrictions... but more time on dialysis #nephjc ๐Ÿ˜œ
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
More on EuroQoL 5D here https://t.co/DsL6qNTohW (but cant find validation in HD @DrRaymondHsu ) #NephJC https://t.co/wtjpXv3SxD
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thank you #NephJC https://t.co/rkv8zMlQ3X
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Possible benefit of frequent hemodialysis on sleep ๐Ÿ˜ด quality โ‰๏ธ #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/q69skor8aa https://t.co/5eq8NVfbB4
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@KidneyCathy @suziekjos @NephJC @Nephro_Sparks Well seeing patients- they experience fatigue post dialysis from traveling, treatment etc which wears them off - and they are back #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Right on @Nephro_Sparks ! #nephJC https://t.co/JGQsMA8ET3
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephJC QOL important but influenced by factors other than HD time. Only 30% of pts diabetic and ethnicity diff vs US ESRD population #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC sounds like a good plan! 24 vs 12 hours is a clinically meaningful difference in treatment time per week #nephjc
devika nair md msci @devimol
RT @DoctorGates: Worst sales pitch ever: Worst sales pitch ever: Hey Mr. S, how about we extend your dialysis to 6 hours AND every night. Your Phos levels will be at goal! #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @Nephro_Sparks: same for #NephJC @gratefull080504 @suziekjos https://t.co/zaRbf8nBu3
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Education on HD in centre. working w/ employers to arrange work on HD. Arranging time w/ kids/grandkids on HD. Creativity on HD... #nephjc https://t.co/CqCOustgXd
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@silvishah @KidneyCathy @suziekjos @NephJC @Nephro_Sparks #nephjc which is why I think that frequent HD should be home HD
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
RT @KidneyCathy: How about this? Hosp taxi fr home to centre. Ed on HD. Group lunch. Taxi 2 school. Parent collects fr school. =>more HD+Ed+social #nephjc https://t.co/dgmQidpBh9
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Secondary outcomes: CV effects, QoL measured by SF-36, pt adherence, lab outcomes, medication usage. #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@NephJC seems like bolus 3 sessions for 24 hours not same as 24 hrs spread over 6 days. Thinking out loud (literally) #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Or transport to centre w/ active planning to make the session useful/enjoyable for patient #nephjc https://t.co/GgtrByGPI3
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@gratefull080504 Good point, however EQ5 dates from 1990s, before the current recognition of patient input...https://t.co/97eDH9i9P7 #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thank you representing the #patientvoice #nephJC https://t.co/CpjdPxEANJ
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Yes, exactly MT @Nephro_Sparks: @NephJC seems like bolus 3 sessions for 24 hours not same as 24 hrs spread over 6 days. #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@ChristosArgyrop @KidneyCathy @suziekjos @NephJC @Nephro_Sparks Agree- pd and home hd are better #nephJC
Manan Doshi @manan_doshi
Besides pt reluctance, Hw do v accommodate all on frequent daily dialysis? #NephJC
Manan Doshi @manan_doshi
We have to pick and choose. Question is hw? This is esp true in my country #NephJC
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Frequent hemodialysis ~ โฌ†๏ธ HR-QOL ca. 2017 #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/yS3XDgnkjT https://t.co/WEXKTQ2aY0
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@Nephro_Sparks @NephJC Right, but 3 x week frequency more oft accepted than 6 x week (in my experience, ahem!) #nephjc
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must also think of cost! RT @manan_doshi: We have to pick and choose. Question is hw? This is esp true in my country #NephJC
Michelle Rheault @rheault_m
@manan_doshi Would need twice as many dialysis nurses (good luck), not to mention figuring out how to pay for all that dialysis. #NephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Safety outcomes: serious adverse events, dialysis vascular access events, and survival #NephJC
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Any other comments on the methods? #NephJC
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
RT @rheault_m: @manan_doshi Would need twice as many dialysis nurses (good luck), not to mention figuring out how to pay for all that dialysis. #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
The goal is to move away from the dependence created by #hemodialysis The dependence is very insidious #nephJC https://t.co/spZCGheB0r
Les @LBEBEN
Is time dialized absolutely tied to kt/v? Please explain math. https://t.co/2zqnJGVZxk
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
How does reimbursement work for extended in-center HD? #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Is there any adult equivalent of a play therapist or teacher to mk the session useful/enjoyable? My patients have both #nephjc
rob @renalpolitics
@NephJC @manan_doshi #nephjc - cost is important discussion, more dialysis means more overall costs though hard to measure, and also greater environmental impact
nilu desai @niludesai1
@NephJC bad qol vs more bad qol #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
@gratefull080504 cannot agree more! It is pervasive for doctors too. Too much corporate interest in my opinion #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
note that none on NxStage in this study MT @hswapnil: @Nephro_Sparks Right, but 3x wk freq more oft accepted than 6x wk #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@KidneyCathy exercise for an hour or so while on. #nephjc
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
@KidneyCathy sadly, TV with headphones #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @renalpolitics: @NephJC @manan_doshi #nephjc - cost is important discussion, more dialysis means more overall costs though hard to measure, and also greater environmental impact
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
@gratefull080504 V true. But what if going into HD was really enjoyable? Working/studying twds a degree. Good food provided. Free transport... #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC imp as more dialysis bad for access: https://t.co/y6HBv4fvD2 & residual fn: https://t.co/ArZwWgRluz #nephjc
Manasi Bapat MD, FASN, FNKF๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @manasib33
If focus is only on QOL, then patients with for eg GN would only be taking diuretics, so agree with focusing on big picture #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
T2: Let's move on to the results. What they found. #NephJC
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Frequent in-center & nocturnal hemodialysis did not significantly change TSH, FT4, or FT3 #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/AbDzUYrIa7
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Then maybe the questionnaire needs to be revised By extension I have now questions about the conclusions drawn from study #nephJC https://t.co/OKWFXqBXOJ
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Study enrolled the planned 200 participants and randomized 100 pts to each group. 195 pts had analyzable EQ-5D QoL assessments #NephJC
CAPN-ANPC @CAPNeph
RT @KidneyCathy: Is there any adult equivalent of a play therapist or teacher to mk the session useful/enjoyable? My patients have both #nephjc
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Delivered treatments were nicely separated between groups (median 24 vs 12 hrs) #NephJC
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Predominantly achieved by longer treatment sessions rather than increased session frequency #NephJC https://t.co/L9EfzPWRDM
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@LBEBEN It's not- at times when extending treatment is required due to volume overload - difficult to convince patients #nephJC
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@KidneyCathy Maybe this... https://t.co/IwppdDSk9m #nephjc
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Hi Paul! Great seeing you here! #nephjc
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Complete and partial adherence to intervention much lower in extended group #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
I'm torn, is QOL the perfect outcome measure or the worst? #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@KidneyCathy Can't make it work if your commute time is 2 hours as happens frequently in rural areas #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@PJ1081 @devimol @silvishah yup, shown here: https://t.co/zxlZ2ypdo3 (and welcome to #NephJC)
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Complete adherence (std vs extended) 74-78% vs 95-98% and partial adherence 78-81% vs 98-99%. Anyone surprised? #NephJC https://t.co/HMwBavwrnU
CAPN-ANPC @CAPNeph
RT @NephRodby: I'm torn, is QOL the perfect outcome measure or the worst? #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: Delivered treatments were nicely separated between groups (median 24 vs 12 hrs) #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
The US LDOs have employed this model to prevent #patientempowerment #nephJC https://t.co/I8hcmgDkhD
devika nair md msci @devimol
recruited some ID involvement for #nephjc :) https://t.co/rl9SP6Jyes
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Also quite dependent on the instrument used RT @NephRodby: I'm torn, is QOL the perfect outcome measure or the worst? #NephJC
John Musgrove @JohnMusgrove
Hello all! John Musgrove first year fellow from @DukeKidney also #ChronicLurker with no COI #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thank you @Nephro_Sparks for creating the environment #nephJC https://t.co/RiekadwQRg
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
@PJ1081 @devimol @silvishah thanks for joining paul #NephJC #Antibiotics
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Cannot imagine how hard and interruptive for someone's life it is to spend all that time bound for machine #nephjc
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Keep those ID docs close! Always needed! RT @devimol: recruited some ID involvement for #nephjc :) https://t.co/MkokzEy5ZB
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Hi John! Welcome and thanks for joining! #nephjc
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Agree! RT @AzraBihorac: Cannot imagine how hard and interruptive for someone's life it is to spend all that time bound for machine #nephjc
Robert Hopkins @ARAdultImmDoc
RT @Nephro_Sparks: same for #NephJC @gratefull080504 @suziekjos https://t.co/zaRbf8nBu3
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
RT @KidneyCathy: Education on HD in centre. working w/ employers to arrange work on HD. Arranging time w/ kids/grandkids on HD. Creativity on HD... #nephjc https://t.co/CqCOustgXd
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@renalpolitics @NephJC @manan_doshi Here is one attempt (very meticulous, PDF) https://t.co/JnQ1NzOgRa from @CADTH_ACMTS #NephJC https://t.co/7vDFy2GixL
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
I see dialysis as a temporary and palliative therapy- a bridge to something different or better. #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
Part of the problem is @CMSGov considers giving Nepro or Zone bars to pts #inducement https://t.co/XRYyKSyFAq
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Until we invent true kidney replacement #nephjc
Gates Colbert, MD @DoctorGates
@NephJC Ext adherence is SO HIGH because the patients have no other time for life activities. Their commitment is chair time, muy mal QOL #NephJC
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
But where is enthusiasm #nephjc
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Anyone surprised adherence pretty low in extended HD group? I'm not #nephjc
Cathy Quinlan @CathyQuinlan.bsky.social @KidneyCathy
Wouldn't appeal to me - but agree that it's a good idea! And thinking of HD time as productive is a great start! https://t.co/TenlHbtCZO
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
RT @JohnMusgrove: Hello all! John Musgrove first year fellow from @DukeKidney also #ChronicLurker with no COI #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
help me out, were extended pts doing extended daily, nocturnal, or more frequent? (sry) #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
My guess is the QOL measures were never developed with patients so I question the relevance of this study #nephJC https://t.co/UaTsALcgPF
Pushkar @pargekar
@NephRodby If the N=1 it is perfect. If not, then... #NephJC
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
@NephJC Impressively few patients <12h. Would be interesting to see differences w/ 9h/wk which is typical among those I see #nephjc
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
But where is enthusiasm and energy in nephrology community for that? #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@JohnMusgrove @DukeKidney Welcome JOhn! (#BowTiesAreCool https://t.co/5231OtVnF4 ) #nephjc
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
RT @NephJC: Anyone surprised adherence pretty low in extended HD group? I'm not #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@JohnMusgrove @Nephro_Sparks @DukeKidney Welcome John #NephJC
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mostly long hrs 3x/week RT @NephRodby: help me out, were extended pts doing extended daily, nocturnal, or more frequent? (sry) #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@NephJC Not really #nephjc
devika nair md msci @devimol
@NephRodby i have also been debating this. perhaps our current QOL measures are outdated and we need to reassess #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephRodby extended 3 x week (8 hours) some at home, some in center #nephjc
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QoL at 12 mos decreased in both groups with no significant difference between the two. Even for prespecified subgroup analyses. #NephJC https://t.co/nJb5St3sa6
Pravir @Proximal_Baxi
@ChristosArgyrop @NephJC agree, not surprised #nephjc
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
QOL gaining more importance as hard end points difficult to meet....#NephJC #ACA https://t.co/mJuj5i0VFj
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
plenty of enthusiasm :) RT @AzraBihorac: But where is enthusiasm and energy in nephrology community for that? #nephjc
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
@devimol @NephRodby Is it time to device a new tool? #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@NephJC I am assuming mortality was not measured - better lab parameters does not necessarily mean improved survival #nephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
Great question RT @IvyM808: @devimol @NephRodby Is it time to device a new tool? #nephjc
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
another comment from @Kimmyrocks47Kim on HD #NephJC https://t.co/4oGYCnIqoG
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Using the SF-36 form, they did note a small significant difference particularly in physical component summary scores. #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@NephJC "long hrs 3X/week" wonder how QOL would be if extended were all nocturnal? #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@GarySingerMD : please explain #nephJC https://t.co/moWqBvk6Hc
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@Proximal_Baxi @NephJC Same thing with PD. Motivated pts who can fit in their lifestyle will think it is great. Everybody else will say screw this #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC indeed. but 78% adherence to 24 hours a week not bad...#NephJC https://t.co/S1xxHFji1O
rob @renalpolitics
@NephJC #nephjc - any data on what difference means?, seems hard to translate these small differences into a discussion with patients or real life
Les @LBEBEN
Better access required for daily dialysis. Survival data solicited with respect. https://t.co/Ap3uYlapWo
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @GenNextMD: QOL gaining more importance as hard end points difficult to meet....#NephJC #ACA https://t.co/mJuj5i0VFj
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
I couldn't tell if this was nocturnal RT @NephRodby: "long hrs 3X/week" wonder how QOL would be if extended were all nocturnal? #NephJC
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@hswapnil @NephJC It would be good to know the education and socioeconomic status of the patient population #nephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@devimol great point #iPhoneX https://t.co/RHMeO8kvdf
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Great point #nephJC https://t.co/RHMeO8kvdf
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
Interesting question. My in center nocturnal patients don't sleep well and still have many QOL complaints. #NephJC https://t.co/sYMXXTm2GV
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
U had me at bow tie ๐Ÿ˜€...#nephjc https://t.co/GDs7WLt23C
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@GenNextMD @hswapnil Qol is important but how we define it is more crucial #nephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC @NephRodby mostly day. 3 in std and 10 in extended were nocturnal... #nephjc
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@gratefull080504 @GarySingerMD Is it consider inducement? Isn't more a metric (i.e., albumin) to qualify to get ONS? #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
@renalpolitics: authors state SF-36 diff they found slightly below level that is suggested as a "minimally impt difference in CKD" #nephjc
nilu desai @niludesai1
@NephJC To me that's the whole study in a nutshell.. if patients felt better(better qol) they would stick with it #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@GarySingerMD : The LDOs are much insidious than that #nephJC https://t.co/O6zcdLN9Wk
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Yes! RT @niludesai1: To me that's the whole study in a nutshell.. if patients felt better(better qol) they would stick with it #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@silvishah Always, but why SES? Arguably in ANZ/Canada (not sure of China) at least healthcare = universal... #nephjc
Gates Colbert, MD @DoctorGates
QOL means different things for different pts. Some want great numbers, to have lifeTime. Others want short HD to get back to Now. #nephjc
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
@silvishah Agreed... Devil in the detail.. Harder soft end point...#nephjc https://t.co/AHY5YmeKHX
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
QOL is paramount. I'm very disappointed in lack of significance of regression of LV mass #NephJC
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RT @anna_burgner: Interesting question. My in center nocturnal patients don't sleep well and still have many QOL complaints. #NephJC https://t.co/sYMXXTm2GV
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: Yes! RT @niludesai1: Yes! RT @niludesai1: To me that's the whole study in a nutshell.. if patients felt better(better qol) they would stick with it #nephjc
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T3: Discussion: What do these findings mean to you and your patients? #NephJC
Manan Doshi @manan_doshi
Access complications expected in frequent dialysis, not sure of longer 3X dialysis #Nephjc @hswapnil
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@hswapnil Compliance at times also depend on education, insurance and Se status #nephJc
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Anyone surprised by the results of this study? #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
How much was this study sponsored by industry ?#nephJC
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RT @DoctorGates: QOL means different things for different pts. Some want great numbers, to have lifeTime. Others want short HD to get back to Now. #nephjc
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Achieving more frequent and longer dialysis w/ the Wearable Artificial Kidney #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/o0ge2iIZdU https://t.co/gbAH4EDzp5
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
I think many of us hung our hat on this as the key to driving down cardiovascular mortality for ESRD patients #NephJC
devika nair md msci @devimol
SF-36 serms validated for mood/physical health in kidney dz. are we missing other measures? is it more valid for the extreme cases? #NephJc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@anna_burgner I think @annlbugeja uses the occasional sleeping med. Also no TVs, Quiet/dark + less often RN rounding @nephrodby #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@anniebelch @gratefull080504 Yes - need albumin < 3.6 but why not give everyone extra protein with HD? #Nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Let's allow the patients define QOL #nephJC https://t.co/JSsa1ek7Lm
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Yes. Dogma overturned in fact RT @VelezNephHepato: #nephjc so the dogma about more time is better is now in question? #nephjc
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @nephrothaniel: I think many of us hung our hat on this as the key to driving down cardiovascular mortality for ESRD patients #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Yes (adherence/concordance) RT @silvishah: @hswapnil Compliance at times also depend on education, insurance and Se status #nephJc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
I am surprised because I really thought time is the missing link and it would make people feel better enough to justify #NephJC
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
I'm curious as to whether the effect size was limited by patient characteristics. #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
I question the relevance of this study based upon a questionable foundation #nephJC https://t.co/fRn4WDUoCD
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
It always gets back to the Tissan (correct) French experience with survival #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@gratefull080504 funded by NHMRC (Australia version of NIH) + some funding from Baxter... #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
@NephJC Not very convinced #nephJC
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Tassin experience in France RT @NephRodby: It always gets back to the Tissan (correct) French experience with survival #NephJC
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
@hswapnil @annlbugeja @NephRodby We do all that but it is still not sleeping in your own bed at home #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @anna_burgner: @hswapnil @annlbugeja @NephRodby We do all that but it is still not sleeping in your own bed at home #NephJC
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
it's possible the study population is too healthy & have too high QOL, so unable to improve upon much with intervention #nephjc
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
I wonder if pts had dietary restrictions and if so were they liberalized d/t decreased P and K? #nephjc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
I am a middle molecule guy, time helps more than membrane, hard to abandon dogma #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC @NephRodby thats why we do Trials. Observational = selection bias + confounding... #nephjc
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
The LV mass index for patients in the FHN was in the 130s-140s compared with ACTIVE with patients in the 105 range #NephJC
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Would this study change how you practice? #NephJC
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
Table 1: they seem healthier than my average pt. also lots of fistulas (impressive) #nephjc
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@NephJC @NephRodby Great data! But that's the way they've always done it... not true change of treatment, right? #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Plausible IMO MT @DrRaymondHsu: it's possible the study population is too healthy/high QOL, so unable to improve upon much #nephjc
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@NephRodby #nephjc Time is the missing link - think about your son (or my 1st grade daughter) again. He likes the grades but it limits other activities
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
Thanks @Nephro_Sparks You get it #nephJC https://t.co/DKUpViyOAM
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
I'm wondering if this dogma would be addressed in an upcoming @goKDIGO Conference ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ #NephJC https://t.co/hN2cUADkJq https://t.co/sRAWzAlKb0
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Agree, also w/ higher bl QoL RT @DrRaymondHsu: Table 1: they seem healthier than my average pt. also lots of fistulas (impressive) #nephjc
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
Close ... Tassin, France @NephRodby - u r correct https://t.co/Bp0etsZUJE
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Time is almost up. Final thoughts? #NephJC
Nathaniel Reisinger @nephrothaniel
Would suggest this is a healthier population at baseline compared to other trials of dialysis length. #NephJC
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To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephJC As an ex pat Canadian living in the US the study patients are very different from my patients #NephJC
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How many times has a patient negotiated with you on having their HD time cut, even by 15 mins? #NephJC
Pravir @Proximal_Baxi
@NephJC sometimes every time I round #nephjc
nilu desai @niludesai1
RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
rob @renalpolitics
#nephjc See #transplantation.
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@nephrothaniel still the FHN nocturnal did not show LV mass regression https://t.co/PQHcXDORla #nephjc
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Overall a well done study that showed no significant benefit on an important outcome #NephJC
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
In current times it's critical to keep patients perspective and preferences - and aim for shared decision making #nephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
I think we often miss the complexity of complete lack of kidney, a critical conductor of homeostasis #nephjc
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @renalpolitics: #nephjc See #transplantation.
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
Qol focuses on simple #nephjc
Pushkar @pargekar
@NephJC Every time I round on every patient #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@hswapnil So you are convinced more time is not better? Look at K, PO4, Hgb. #NephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
Fantastic chat thanks @KidneyBea_n for hosting Thanks @gratefull080504 @suziekjos et al for driving home patient centered outcomes #NephJC
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@NephJC Every week #nephJC
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
devika nair md msci @devimol
"clinically-relevant" may be different for us vs patients. and "clinically-relevant" isn't always statistically significant #NephJc
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@NephRodby And if one is not willing to do 6x3 then 8x3 does not deliver freedom from dietary (esp fluid) restrictions #nephjc
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RT @devimol: "clinically-relevant" may be different for us vs patients. and "clinically-relevant" isn't always statistically significant #NephJc
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
RT @IvyM808 RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
Azra Bihorac @AzraBihorac
cachexia, catabolism, cognitive decline, accelerated aging, you name it . Not cured with current HD technology #nephjc
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RT @AzraBihorac: cachexia, catabolism, cognitive decline, accelerated aging, you name it . Not cured with current HD technology #nephjc
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
After a half of century of approval in US why is QOL still an afterthought in #dialysis? The answer is very apparent + is immoral #nephJC https://t.co/GqCkPqFR9F
Ivy Melgarejo @IvyM808
RT @devimol: "clinically-relevant" may be different for us vs patients. and "clinically-relevant" isn't always statistically significant #NephJc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephJC indeed. Cue @Song_Initiative https://t.co/Lw3Q4qNj2w #dialysisFreeTime #NephJC https://t.co/BLnP7vyvgm
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
@NephJC I saw it several times while doing research at the clinic, especially if they had IDH, cramps, etc... #nephjc
Gates Colbert, MD @DoctorGates
I think preventing VoL has so many benefits for #ESRD pts. Less fatigue with lower UF goals. Continue to educate and empower pts #nephjc
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RT @devimol: "clinically-relevant" may be diff for us vs pts. and "clinically-relevant" isn't always statistically significant #NephJc
Anna Burgner MD MEHP @anna_burgner
Thanks for a great chat @KidneyBea_n! #NephJC
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
RT @hswapnil: @NephJC indeed. Cue @Song_Initiative https://t.co/Lw3Q4qNj2w #dialysisFreeTime #NephJC https://t.co/BLnP7vyvgm
Annabel Biruete ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ @anniebelch
RT @NephRodby: RT @IvyM808 RT @NephJC: RT @IvyM808 RT @NephJC: To me, this study validates something we all know- patients do not like being on dialysis, plain and simple. #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@gratefull080504 Do you consider QOL of anti-HTNives over BP effect? #NephJC
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Thanks everyone for joining us tonight! #NephJC
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I'd like to remind everyone that there will be a BST chat tomorrow at 8 PM with @DrMattGB at the helm. #NephJC
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Typical prescriptions for short daily and nocturnal hemodialysis #Nephpearls #NephJC https://t.co/wThPdb3Sar
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By the numbers, from @healthhashtags- great chat! Thanks everyone! #NephJC https://t.co/OgqPqTexxF
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephRodby would personally do nocturnal home HD (8 hours daily). But: let patients decide. Can't say longer = definitely better now #nephjc
devika nair md msci @devimol
@NephJC we <3 you @KidneyBea_n ! #NephJc
TEJAS PATEL MD, FACP, FASN @GenNextMD
Gr8 chat .. @hswapnil @Nephro_Sparks @NephRodby @silvishah @rheault_m @ChristosArgyrop @gratefull080504 @DrRaymondHsu and ALL Thx #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@hswapnil @NephRodby Also, longer = more expensive. Should society pay for something that does not increase survival or QoL? #nephjc
Gonzalo Bautista Prieto. MD ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ @GonzalBautistaP
RT @edgarvlermamd: Typical prescriptions for short daily and nocturnal hemodialysis #Nephpearls #NephJC https://t.co/wThPdb3Sar
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thanks @devimol and paul! RT @devimol: @NephJC we <3 you @KidneyBea_n ! #NephJc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Fabulous job @kidneybea_n ! RT @NephJC: Thanks everyone for joining us tonight! #NephJC
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
Actually the way I would do a HD time QoL study would be as a series of n-of-1 RCT. Not a parallel design #nephjc
Gary Singer @GarySingerMD@med-mastodon.com @GarySingerMD
@hswapnil @NephRodby The key is getting patients to do home dialysis whenever possible #NephJC
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
@hswapnil Me too, but if you were betting man, perfect trial, nocturnal 40 hr/week vs incenter 12/wk? really believe no better? #NephJC
Kevin J. Fowler Principal The Voice of the Patient @gratefull080504
@NephRodby : The question is best asked to #dialysis patients I have never been on #dialysis knock on wood #nephJC https://t.co/cXLWHrmLG3
Raymond Hsu @DrRaymondHsu
RT @hswapnil: More on EuroQoL 5D here https://t.co/DsL6qNTohW (but cant find validation in HD @DrRaymondHsu ) #NephJC https://t.co/wtjpXv3SxD
Matthew Sparks, MD @Nephro_Sparks
The numbers: 547 Tweets. 86 Participants. September 11th 2017. More #NephJC ๐Ÿ“Š here https://t.co/VPMlgoX9ed via @symplur
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
Endorse. long = not for everyone MT @ChristosArgyrop: Actually the way I would do a series of n-of-1 RCT. Not a parallel design #nephjc
Silvi Shah, MD, MS @silvishah
Thanks for great chat @KidneyBea_n #nephJC
Nephrology Journal Club @NephJC
RT @Nephro_Sparks: The numbers: 547 Tweets. 86 Participants. September 11th 2017. More #NephJC ๐Ÿ“Š here https://t.co/171AmYvfzl via @symplur
Roger Rodby @NephRodby
Admittedly I take a paternalistic approach, not fair to patients #NephJC
B. Wagner, M.D. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ @Wagner_Nephro
Thanks! #NephJC
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RT @NephJC: I'd like to remind everyone that there will be a BST chat tomorrow at 8 PM with @DrMattGB at the helm. #NephJC
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
@NephRodby Academic Q. Given TiME RCT termination, this is the best we get AFAIK https://t.co/rle1emTcqa #nephjc
Swapnil Hiremath @hswapnil@bsky.social @hswapnil
RT @NephJC: I'd like to remind everyone that there will be a BST chat tomorrow at 8 PM with @DrMattGB at the helm. #NephJC
Edgar V. Lerma ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ @edgarvlermamd
Frequent hemodialysis ~ โฌ†๏ธ HR-QOL ca. 2017 #Nephpearls #NephJC ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://t.co/yS3XDgnkjT https://t.co/FrIssCwYAY
ChristosArgyropoulos MD, PhD PharmanukerInChief @ChristosArgyrop
@hswapnil @NephRodby Let me point out that our kidneys do not work for 4 hours x3/week. #nephjc
Luis Montiel Roa @luismontielroa
RT @gabolino43: Importante https://t.co/PRAt3YsA3Y
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