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OTalk @OTalk_
Evening all! It’s @hooper_ek on the @OTalk account for tonight’s #OTalk Research. Say hi if you’re in the Twittersphere this evening with us! #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
You’ll have to bear with me this evening if I lag behind … my computer is on a total tortoise crawl!! #OTalk
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
Good evening :-) looking forward to discussing research #OTalk https://t.co/nLPrDbiu1x
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Hi everyone I’m here hoping you’re all in fine fettle #OTalk
Nic @mcgarveynic
Hi, looking toward to the discussion. I’ve just started an MRes with the @NIHR_trainees @CovUni_CIRAL, qual study mind you! #OTalk
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
Lurking.... really interesting topic (also multitasking in B&Q) #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Remember as always the usual rules apply …. Respect each other, remember your code of conduct and don’t forget the # #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Hi all. I'm here & ready to go while my other half cooks supper 4 us! #OTalk
Carol @carspring27
@mcgarveynic @NIHR_trainees @CovUni_CIRAL would love to know more about how you get onto a MRes ....#OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Hope it’s going well @mcgarveynic #OTalk https://t.co/oZq412CcNF
OTalk @OTalk_
Oh, and have fun! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Hello folks! #otalk
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Accessibility card launched for public transport - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse - https://t.co/NsLi0jlm07
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Hi #OTalk I’m here too, trying to catch up on emails at the same time tonight.
OTalk @OTalk_
It’s great to have @AvrilDrummond1 hosting tonight’s chat on RCTs. Avril, would you like to post your first question for us please and we'll go down the rabbit hole of RCTs? #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
and I forgot my #OTalk!
OTalk @OTalk_
Lots of multitasking going on as ever this evening! #OTalk https://t.co/mQF51XDqn2
Emily OT @EmsOTs
Hi All :-) #OTalk
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1
Hello, lurking in between taxi runs with kids. New to research with a clinical academic fellowship supported by NHS trust and university #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
#OTalk here's Avril's first question folks https://t.co/MOESYE1C2P
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Here’s a risk 1 st question #OTAlk https://t.co/fq2uxwJU8n
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
I am going to drive home before I join you for multitasking during #OTalk https://t.co/LfBL7Du41P
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
We Need to Build Accessibility Into Our Digital Workplaces -#axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/8mHnmIxN9k
Tori OT @Tori_Doll_
RT @OTalk_: #OTalk here's Avril's first question folks https://t.co/MOESYE1C2P
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
Q1 Are OTs more likely to do qualitative research... and if so, why?#OTalk https://t.co/esJLCAoqOA
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@OTalk_ I think because OT interventions are so individualised, qualitative research is perhaps easier to do?! #OTalk
Armand Rodriguez @armndrgz
RT @akwyz: 5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
David R. Pollard @davidpollardirl
RT @akwyz: We Need to Build Accessibility Into Our Digital Workplaces -#axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/8mHnmIxN9k
NosWhyNot? @noswhynot
RT @akwyz: We Need to Build Accessibility Into Our Digital Workplaces -#axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/8mHnmIxN9k
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 I think perhaps the nature of the research questions that occupational therapists ask often lend themselves more to qualitative methodologies.
Nic @mcgarveynic
@LynneGoodacre @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk, anecdotally yes, maybe because we’re so person centred that we uphold views and perspectives more??
grainne carley @gra_carley
More likely to focus on qual, I think, & it's because may be considered more person centred, drawing out on client experiences & giving voice to these #otalk
Carol @carspring27
In answer to the first question...yes qualitative study is more about measuring the pt's perspective - much of OT intervention is aimed at improving both the inner and outer life of a person - a story which the patient needs to tell....?how to RCT this? #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
It depends on clinical area..where rcts have bn done..think OTs likely 2 do more as have skills/infrastructure/confidence. In less researched areas quals may be needed to build theoretical understanding of area. #otalk https://t.co/vN5QYZsqA0
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @preston_jenny: @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 I think perhaps the nature of the research questions that occupational therapists…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @mcgarveynic: @LynneGoodacre @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk, anecdotally yes, maybe because we’re so person centred that we uphold views and per…
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
Everyone in my cohort did qual for their MSc research...scared of stats, or what they think quant will be like. Wanting depth of participants views. Expertise of supervisors too #OTalk https://t.co/V3GOGnu9vB
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ I think certain subjects- numbers don’t tell whole story! Autism for example... I prefer qualitative over qualitative. #otalk
Birger Destoop @B1rger
@OTalk_ I'm "lurking" #OTalk with one eye while watching the Falcon Heavy launch With the other. 😄
Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1
Q1 I think when new to research qualitative seems much more achievable, especially with no funding and if completing on your own whilst continuing to work as a clinician #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ And for others like rehab setting- mixed study might be better. Like Berg fall scale coupled with follow up interviews with elderly. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
I like that train of thought @MaryBirken ... is there a sensae that qual research is a precursor to quant maybe? #OTalk https://t.co/RC2wpdAuJL
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk I wonder if this might be nearer to the truth...... https://t.co/9JJ5wTBZ1W
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Mixed method rcts include qual SUs perspective as well as quant outcome. Good study design for client centred practice. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @PaulaOtter1: Q1 I think when new to research qualitative seems much more achievable, especially with no funding and if completing on yo…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @EllenChisman: Everyone in my cohort did qual for their MSc research...scared of stats, or what they think quant will be like. Wanting d…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: It depends on clinical area..where rcts have bn done..think OTs likely 2 do more as have skills/infrastructure/confidence.…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @carspring27: In answer to the first question...yes qualitative study is more about measuring the pt's perspective - much of OT interven…
Tori OT @Tori_Doll_
@OTalk_ 1) I think potentially yes - from my own experience have completed qual research for both my BSc & MSc dissertations. I think it's due to wanting to really explore people's experiences and I feel it's where my competency lies #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gra_carley: More likely to focus on qual, I think, & it's because may be considered more person centred, drawing out on client experien…
Carol @carspring27
interestingly found RCT and OT combined....https://t.co/ZC1mNTVL57 #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lauren_OT: @OTalk_ I think because OT interventions are so individualised, qualitative research is perhaps easier to do?! #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @OTalk_: I like that train of thought @MaryBirken ... is there a sensae that qual research is a precursor to quant maybe? #OTalk https:/…
Nic @mcgarveynic
@MaryBirken @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk I agree, there’s an interesting RCT looking at the effectiveness of day care in MH, that’s mixed methods
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: Mixed method rcts include qual SUs perspective as well as quant outcome. Good study design for client centred practice. #OT
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@PaulaOtter1 @PaulaOtter1 #OTalk This is really interesting and a common mis-perception in my view. Good quality qualitative research is just as hard as quantitative as I experienced with the help of @ClaireBallinge1
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I’m wondering if more people are stepping into quant via mixed methods studies now? #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
RT @carspring27: In answer to the first question...yes qualitative study is more about measuring the pt's perspective - much of OT interven…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @mcgarveynic: @MaryBirken @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk I agree, there’s an interesting RCT looking at the effectiveness of day care in MH, tha…
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Yes I think where indepth understanding or area is needed first before measuring effectiveness, quals is a pre-cursor to doing quants research. #otalk https://t.co/DXUL1iugKU
Kim Bell @kimbellot
OTs always want to find out why and numbers only tell a small part of the story. Lives are more complex and can't often be neatly put in a box or quantified #otalk https://t.co/LN7BwmRM7o
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @mcgarveynic: @MaryBirken @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk I agree, there’s an interesting RCT looking at the effectiveness of day care in MH, tha…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @KimBellOT: OTs always want to find out why and numbers only tell a small part of the story. Lives are more complex and can't often be n…
Orla @orlatheot
@AvrilDrummond1 From my masters cohort, we have 1 quantitative paper and the rest are qualitative (few are doing systematic reviews). I think it appeals to #OccupationalTherapy as you can collect rich data about the topic and the context. The whys instead of the what and how. #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk . Agree with that- except you need to know some general things about people eg relating to drugs - so can't just focus on one person? https://t.co/pdmmy6rFcW
OTalk @OTalk_
But can numbers sometimes tell a powerful story too @KimBellOT ? #OTalk https://t.co/H5RyhxuFmM
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
Interesting...I like this thought #OTalk https://t.co/3QLAfisOww
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@KimBellOT And some assessments we have- they might not be too sensitive to minor improvements. Modified Barthel Index is a good example. #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: But can numbers sometimes tell a powerful story too @KimBellOT ? #OTalk https://t.co/H5RyhxuFmM
Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1
@preston_jenny @ClaireBallinge1 Agree it seems just as hard... But for me seems an easier staring point. I can relate much easier to case study methodology and don't feel quite as overwhelmed. #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Interesting...maybe more quantitive research methods need to be part of OT training to remove stats fear? #otalk https://t.co/AbnP6A7IyF
Nic @mcgarveynic
RT @KimBellOT: OTs always want to find out why and numbers only tell a small part of the story. Lives are more complex and can't often be n…
OTalk @OTalk_
#OTalk https://t.co/XOV3C71X5f
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@orlatheot @AvrilDrummond1 @orlatheot @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk But surely the what and how are also important if we are to advance our knowledge and practice.
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@OTalk_ Think numbers are useful and should never be disregarded, BUT they are never enough - well wouldn't be to me. #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Perhaps also the skills for qual research are aligned closely to the clinical skills we feel comfortable with, active listening, powerful questions, etc #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. And totally bias response from me- but YES!!! https://t.co/CXbr3Owa6z
Philip Mason @pjmasonOT
@OTalk_ I think that the process of capturing qualitative data runs parallel to the OT process making this more likely to be the research of choice #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken I heard a lot of my former classmates fear stats. But I also think what we are trying to research on... numbers don’t completely capture whole story. #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. And totally bias response from me- but YES!!! https://t.co/CXbr3Owa6z
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Yes- but only part of the picture? https://t.co/6ztFlxf9Ha
Nic @mcgarveynic
#OTalk ‘not everything that counts can be counted, not everything that’s counted counts’ not sure who said that 😬 but I like it! https://t.co/ySBCjd0W96
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Mapping global accessibility to cities - https://t.co/J0hEZxkfnI - #axschat #a11y #OTalk #benurse
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @MaryBirken: Interesting...maybe more quantitive research methods need to be part of OT training to remove stats fear? #otalk https://t.…
Orla @orlatheot
RT @mcgarveynic: #OTalk ‘not everything that counts can be counted, not everything that’s counted counts’ not sure who said that 😬 but I li…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I'd second that as well #OTalk https://t.co/50Sv6OnPRm
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk So Q2. What is challenging for OTs about conducting RCTs?
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @LynneGoodacre: I'd second that as well #OTalk https://t.co/50Sv6OnPRm
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken Also, what is the clinical significance of 1 point reduction on a 10 point scale regards to pain? Sometimes that might be statistically significant, but not clinically significant. #otalk
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
A yes from me too #OTalk https://t.co/Gzoq26L180
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @mcgarveynic: #OTalk ‘not everything that counts can be counted, not everything that’s counted counts’ not sure who said that 😬 but I li…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@AvrilDrummond1 Some of the subjects we research on- they are not conducive to RCT format. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @mcgarveynic: #OTalk ‘not everything that counts can be counted, not everything that’s counted counts’ not sure who said that 😬 but I li…
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Divas With Disabilities: A Movement in African American History - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/ypTG9RCp2K
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Kessler Foundation Issues Grant To The State University Of Iowa, Center For Disabilities - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/F9Hz3YsXA3
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @pjmasonOT: @OTalk_ I think that the process of capturing qualitative data runs parallel to the OT process making this more likely to be…
OTalk @OTalk_
Moving on in the discussion folks, here's Q2 from @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk https://t.co/2fhESKA9le
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @mcgarveynic: #OTalk ‘not everything that counts can be counted, not everything that’s counted counts’ not sure who said that 😬 but I li…
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@AvrilDrummond1 Yes agree, there is certainly a place for quantitative but I hate it when this is sometimes valued more highly in the hierarchy #otalk
David A. Bray @chief_ventures
RT @akwyz: Mapping global accessibility to cities - https://t.co/J0hEZxkfnI - #axschat #a11y #OTalk #benurse
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Pretending your dog's a service animal? WA bill would make that a $250 fine - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/sy95ffaHgN
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Thats where mixed methods comes in.... what does result mean? #otalk https://t.co/bPdx1zMq9J
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@AvrilDrummond1 I agree! I still have nightmares over SPSS when I did undergraduate dissertation 😕 #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@EllenChisman Me would be a no... lol! Might be because I am from state background. I just need to dust off rust! #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Most measures would indicate a clinically significant change in addition to a statistically significant one #OTalk https://t.co/thTh7sz3pM
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Agree with you- depends on question. But bodies such as NICE still lean heavily on RCT and SR evidence. https://t.co/LdNxiOMbjl
NosWhyNot? @noswhynot
RT @akwyz: Mapping global accessibility to cities - https://t.co/J0hEZxkfnI - #axschat #a11y #OTalk #benurse
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
#OTalk -when I use surveys or questionnaires the qualitative answers always provide me with the best evidence. I think as a listener, these questions are where my interests lie https://t.co/38DqX5DOvE
Nic @mcgarveynic
I think it’s the relational aspect again- perhaps RCT feel too rigid, not ‘therapeutic’ enough maybe? I’m not sure but it’s a good Q! #OTalk
Carol @carspring27
#OTalk Logistics: the need for big samples size, validity requires multiple sites, which will be difficult to manage, long trial run time may result in the loss of relevance as practice may have moved on by the time the trial is published...https://t.co/cBDO4sxnDg
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Too few OT experts to pass on experience? https://t.co/dhcVghJ7ue
David R. Pollard @davidpollardirl
RT @akwyz: Mapping global accessibility to cities - https://t.co/J0hEZxkfnI - #axschat #a11y #OTalk #benurse
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@KimWillisOT @AvrilDrummond1 Well- I had to use R and SAS when I was in undergrad doing my stats major. That was a lot more daunting than minitab and SPSS. #otalk
grainne carley @gra_carley
RCTs seem to require more clients, more resources for research, withholding or delay of treatment..also v little RCTs in OT lit historically #OTalk
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@mcgarveynic Yes like this as well? There's also that one anout 'lies damn lies and statistics' not sure who said it! #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Using the MRC Framework we often don’t have the earlier knowledge re feasibility, piloting etc to allow us to progress to RCT. We need to get more comfortable with the earlier stages and see them as valid stepping stones. https://t.co/7Z3fsHPpXx
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk SO many OTs say that... and numbers are fun! Give those lecturers a B minus. https://t.co/ypDAtITOTQ
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @BillWongOT: @KimWillisOT @AvrilDrummond1 Well- I had to use R and SAS when I was in undergrad doing my stats major. That was a lot more…
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
Think this could be part of it, yes #OTalk https://t.co/w3dwLhMCaX
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. The best evidence of what? https://t.co/fXWOo4zd3G
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. Too few OT experts to pass on experience? https://t.co/dhcVghJ7ue
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Amen! https://t.co/cMjEzn1paI
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@AvrilDrummond1 I second that. I think that was why many OT lecturers hope that I turn out to be a quantitative researcher. As things turned out though... it was not what they planned! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gra_carley: RCTs seem to require more clients, more resources for research, withholding or delay of treatment..also v little RCTs in OT…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thsts where working as part of a research team can really help to pull on each other’s knowledge and skills. None of us can do this all on our own. https://t.co/ekMVGxJBL5
Philip Mason @pjmasonOT
@AvrilDrummond1 Seeing research as ‘extra’ work can be a major barrier in clinical settings and l guess a quantitative approach, I would assume would require more work than a qualitative approach?? #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Describing the intervention in detail and what outcomes to measure can be challenge #otalk https://t.co/A3YgRvtxs8
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@mcgarveynic Yes I like this as well and the one 'lies, damn lies and statistics' not sure who said that though! #otalk
Stephy'Ren Nana @stephyren
#OTalk https://t.co/69yFfKOAxN
Orla @orlatheot
@preston_jenny @AvrilDrummond1 True! But I think the in-depth picture qualitative brings appeals to the students I've talked to in my experience #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @MaryBirken: Describing the intervention in detail and what outcomes to measure can be challenge #otalk https://t.co/A3YgRvtxs8
Nic @mcgarveynic
@preston_jenny @OTalk_ #OTalk yes I agree, confidence and training must be key, how have you found using RCT methodology @AvrilDrummond1?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: Describing the intervention in detail and what outcomes to measure can be challenge #otalk https://t.co/A3YgRvtxs8
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Over a third of marketing professionals driven to depression & anxiety through work #AXSChat #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/RGzUXvlqZn https://t.co/zSXvUnAVtQ
Carol @carspring27
@preston_jenny @AvrilDrummond1 so how does one start working as part of a research team?#otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. I'm not sure that is true- but I think many people do think that. https://t.co/3qPNpX8abF
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thsts where working as part of a research team can really help to pull on each other’s knowledge…
Francesca S @OT_Francesca
@orlatheot @AvrilDrummond1 I found the same in my MSc cohort, more people choosing qual over quantitative. During my psychology BSc we were always pushed towards quantitative so I'm pleased to be able to have the experience to have tried both OTs seem v. suited to ask the 'whys' from practice #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @BillWongOT: @AvrilDrummond1 I second that. I think that was why many OT lecturers hope that I turn out to be a quantitative researcher.…
Carol @carspring27
@AvrilDrummond1 knowing where to start! #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OT_Francesca: @orlatheot @AvrilDrummond1 I found the same in my MSc cohort, more people choosing qual over quantitative. During my psy…
OTalk @OTalk_
Recognising the value of the stepping stones & pressing on towards the RCT goal. It's definitely a long-haul experience isn't it @preston_jenny ? #OTalk https://t.co/nUscnHwatR
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@preston_jenny @AvrilDrummond1 And we also got to pool data so that there can be a more robust study. Also, we should create niches for biostatisticians! They just need to be educated about why we do what we do. #otalk
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@AvrilDrummond1 I quite enjoyed spss and getting my 'results' at the end of the process! #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Developing skills & knowledge to conduct RCTs is a challenge... rct research jobs to gain experience are scarce and competitive #otalk https://t.co/A3YgRvtxs8
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
#OTalk- recently, it was that parents valued an intervention we offered and that I presented https://t.co/8Ck2b6XmMJ
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
@OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 I think it depends on what your question is. If it’s efficacy of a novel Rx then the control grp is easy; it’s standard care. It’s when we want to prove our basic OT role is effective or VfM we have problems ethically- can’t withhold standard care. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: Developing skills & knowledge to conduct RCTs is a challenge... rct research jobs to gain experience are scarce and competi…
Nic @mcgarveynic
Another barrier maybe not understanding the value/power of RCT’s? #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. You have to be prepared to keep knocking on research doors. https://t.co/F5Cw2k1WQZ
Carol @carspring27
@AvrilDrummond1 research is extra work unless you have a grant to enable you to spend time on merely research....what routes are there for clinicians to balance caseloads with research? #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Me too. #whywedoresearch #otalk https://t.co/xB47TTgn56
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@KimBellOT @AvrilDrummond1 I prefer SPSS or minitab over SAS any day! #otalk
Tori OT @Tori_Doll_
@AvrilDrummond1 Resources, time constraints, knowledge, wanting to explore service users experiences around 'meaningful' occupation or therapists experiences in depth and thus using quail research methods as a 'go to' #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @carspring27: @AvrilDrummond1 research is extra work unless you have a grant to enable you to spend time on merely research....what rout…
OTalk @OTalk_
It definitely needs a team approach, would you agree @MaryBirken ? #OTalk https://t.co/doWxysL0Hs
Glyn Blakey @saeboukglyn
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thsts where working as part of a research team can really help to pull on each other’s knowledge…
Carol @carspring27
@AvrilDrummond1 explain please...#OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Few but you need tenacity. I end up giving in to people who pester me enough! https://t.co/oSj9TMQ1qE
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. You have to be prepared to keep knocking on research doors. https://t.co/F5Cw2k1WQZ
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
Agreed, I'm not sure that is the case either. Perhaps just has challenges or pressures in different stages of the process - design or analysis stages for example - or in different ways they require the same work to be of good quality #otalk https://t.co/QcshHnHoJw
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@AvrilDrummond1 I had a whole module on research methods etc when doing a sociology undergraduate degree. In my OT degree we only briefly cover research methods. Not a criticism but a big difference #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the right people so it is no different in research. I have collaborations with clinical colleagues and academic colleagues who have similar interests. https://t.co/6FBzACwaB4
Debra Ruh @debraruh
RT @akwyz: Pretending your dog's a service animal? WA bill would make that a $250 fine - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.…
Sara Ruh @sararuh
RT @akwyz: Pretending your dog's a service animal? WA bill would make that a $250 fine - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Love this answer! https://t.co/EzH7uSF5qm
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @SensationalOT: #OTalk- recently, it was that parents valued an intervention we offered and that I presented https://t.co/8Ck2b6XmMJ
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Also looking out for those jobs when they are advertised #OTalk, https://t.co/0BUAKqwQMC
Orla @orlatheot
RT @OT_Francesca: @orlatheot @AvrilDrummond1 I found the same in my MSc cohort, more people choosing qual over quantitative. During my psy…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@mcgarveynic I understand very clearly... but I think it was because of my background. I inquired about why we don’t as first. But as I found out topics of research, I was often like, “Well, that can be be done... but probably be extremely difficult.” Or “No way that will be an RCT.” #otalk
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@AvrilDrummond1 I get why but I don't like it! :) #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. So I think we are saying something about OT training here and role models? https://t.co/koBy9BbYjc
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
#OTalk- RCTs are seen as additional work and aren’t typically commissioned so we need extra resources to conduct them- although they can evidence #TheValueOfOT, they are not valued as a solution https://t.co/wpN6yCQYW8
Glyn Blakey @saeboukglyn
RT @willchegwidden: @OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 I think it depends on what your question is. If it’s efficacy of a novel Rx then the control gr…
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
RT @willchegwidden: @OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 I think it depends on what your question is. If it’s efficacy of a novel Rx then the control gr…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @EllenChisman: Agreed, I'm not sure that is the case either. Perhaps just has challenges or pressures in different stages of the process…
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
We know there are barriers to OTs being part of rcts delivering the intervention. #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @EllenChisman: Agreed, I'm not sure that is the case either. Perhaps just has challenges or pressures in different stages of the process…
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
@KimBellOT @AvrilDrummond1 We did two research modules in my OT degree... one in first year and one in fourth! #otalk
Tori OT @Tori_Doll_
@AvrilDrummond1 Resources, time constraints, knowledge, wanting to explore service users experiences around 'meaningful' occupation or therapists experiences in depth and thus using qual research methods as a 'go to' #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR
Nic @mcgarveynic
#OTalk I definitely think research in general needs to be introduced and owned at undergrad level, that way we start off well at least! https://t.co/bKIlfy3a8M
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. So I think we are saying something about OT training here and role models? https://t.co/koBy9BbYjc
Dr. Dorrie Cooper @sittingpretty61
RT @akwyz: Mapping global accessibility to cities - https://t.co/J0hEZxkfnI - #axschat #a11y #OTalk #benurse
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
@carspring27 #Otalk. If you are interested in a resarch project you need to ask if you can volunteer to help
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @SensationalOT: #OTalk- RCTs are seen as additional work and aren’t typically commissioned so we need extra resources to conduct them- a…
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the…
Carol @carspring27
@LynneGoodacre where are these jobs advertised? I have not seen an advert?! #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Yes need service users, clinicians and other researchers involved. #otalk https://t.co/zX7xKFi1Eq
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @Tori_Doll_: @AvrilDrummond1 Resources, time constraints, knowledge, wanting to explore service users experiences around 'meaningful' oc…
Glyn Blakey @saeboukglyn
RT @KimBellOT: @AvrilDrummond1 I get why but I don't like it! :) #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. Love this answer! https://t.co/EzH7uSF5qm
OTalk @OTalk_
I agree @LynneGoodacre - that is how I got involved in the mysterious world of quantitative research :-) #OTalk https://t.co/WFZI2EqUGD
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@SensationalOT I disagree. I think they have a place in our profession. I think we need to collaborate more so that we can gather a great enough sample on topics that can be done via RCT. #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Thanks all so far! Q3. What would make OTs more confident in conducting RCTs?
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual studies could raise questions about this. I say this as a qual research #OTalk https://t.co/YBZdWMCKek
Debra Ruh @debraruh
RT @akwyz: 5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
Sara Ruh @sararuh
RT @akwyz: 5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
Richard Schatzberg @rschatzberg
RT @akwyz: 5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
Ruh Global Comm. @ruhglobal
RT @akwyz: 5 Tips for Flying as a Wheelchair User - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/6xaYBkaXok
Carol @carspring27
@AvrilDrummond1 not wishing to appear dim but how do you find out about current research projects (I am currently only in a clinical role) #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR
nobism @nobismhealth
RT @MaryBirken: Me too. #whywedoresearch #otalk https://t.co/xB47TTgn56
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
@carspring27 #OTalk Email me outside of this.... struggling to respond to so many people!!
OTalk @OTalk_
Moving on from the challenges, here's Q3 from @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk https://t.co/n91XfyqSsK
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@SensationalOT A good example will be something like including yoga as part of OT treatment for a patient group vs. control and measure its effects. Then we pool together enough people for a RCT study. #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual stud…
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@AvrilDrummond1 Support from someone more confident with statistics? #OTalk
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
Yes, #OTalk, did anyone see the @YoungDynamos presentation at @RCOT_CYPF this year? Service users, even young ones can do great things https://t.co/0QHQFgHR3I
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@AvrilDrummond1 I was put off maths at school due to the teacher. For sociology degree, I still hated maths but had a great lecturer who patiently took us through statistics. Attitude of person who teaches is critical #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
@carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 R&D dept webpage for trust will have current studies going on in trust..they usually have newsletter. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual stud…
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
@carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 If you are in the UK the @theRCOT R&D bulletin is a great place to start #otalk
Nic @mcgarveynic
@carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk I started with my R and I dept in the trust I worked for, just asked if I could meet them, find out more
OTalk @OTalk_
#OTalk https://t.co/RmbQsvmGV4
Carol @carspring27
@AvrilDrummond1 Role models in clinical settings, being involved in a study, having training in how to do a RCtrial....working in the NHS with its pressures day to day this is not seen as a priority and often pushed to the back burner....#OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. I agree! Is depth in a few people better or worse than shallow in a large number? https://t.co/SlIFJ7w679
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@AvrilDrummond1 I probably am part of a minority- I am confident, but I wear too many hats at the moment! #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @KimBellOT: @AvrilDrummond1 I was put off maths at school due to the teacher. For sociology degree, I still hated maths but had a great…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @BillWongOT: @AvrilDrummond1 I probably am part of a minority- I am confident, but I wear too many hats at the moment! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 R&D dept webpage for trust will have current studies going on in trust..they usually have news…
Carol @carspring27
@MaryBirken @AvrilDrummond1 thank you #OTalk
Antonio Santos 💙 @akwyz
Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/oWQ233IyPf
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk . If there was a prize, you'd be a contender! https://t.co/x5f8wJz6AI
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @mcgarveynic: @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk I started with my R and I dept in the trust I worked for, just asked if I could meet t…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @willchegwidden: @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 If you are in the UK the @theRCOT R&D bulletin is a great place to start #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @MaryBirken: @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 R&D dept webpage for trust will have current studies going on in trust..they usually have news…
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
#otalk
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
I wouldn’t be joining in on #OTalk tonight if i didn’t believe in research. I do and am doing a post grad course right now on research but still am struggling to sell it at work. Any advice? https://t.co/o7tr58FQHi
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Absolutely! https://t.co/qiEeogGjBC
OTalk @OTalk_
A great way to get started @mcgarveynic #OTalk https://t.co/KxD8TpOacv
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @KimBellOT @AvrilDrummond1 I was never a mathematician either but get really excited now by stars when they relate to my own work and I can understand what they mean. It needs to be real for me too. https://t.co/E4z2lNHVo2
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
Sorry i'm very late - what have i missed? #otalk
Nic @mcgarveynic
@AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk support for sure, as others have said. Plus training and time
NosWhyNot? @noswhynot
RT @akwyz: Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse htt…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @KimWillisOT: @AvrilDrummond1 Support from someone more confident with statistics? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@AvrilDrummond1 For certain things like FIM score differences, I think it will be better with a lot more people... since that will be more robust with bigger sample size. #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Also check out resources in offer from @NIHR & start talking to people involved in research from other professions #OTAlk also check out Council for allied health professionals Research network https://t.co/JCNYMNMXdg
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @mcgarveynic: @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk support for sure, as others have said. Plus training and time
OTalk @OTalk_
Totally agree @willchegwidden It's a great resource #OTalk https://t.co/2Et1lQ5TEr
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Having quants methods core part of OT training. Reading OT rct papers to learn how to understand, critique & interpret results #OTalk https://t.co/bRfQV2ebOL
Jeannine vd Linden @kameraad52
RT @akwyz: Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse htt…
Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman
ooo good to think about! maybe depends on the nature of your enquiry and what you are trying to find out/seeking to then impact, rather than always one being better than the other #OTalk https://t.co/vDiwidk8JY
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
@AvrilDrummond1 I think striking the balance between protecting your IP and being open to collaborating with new and junior partners to share experiences . Open access is a great thing sharing knowledge not holding cards close to your chest #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 Get your name added to the @theRCOT R&D Bulletin too as it is very useful. https://t.co/eZxfnfjk5R
Rosemary Musachio @rosemusachio
RT @akwyz: Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse htt…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. I was pants at maths at school. I really didn't get it. I'm not a world expert now but I really enjoy stats in my own research. As you say- it has meaning https://t.co/v7Nt2YZcWp
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @carspring27 @AvrilDrummond1 Get your name added to the @theRCOT R&D Bulletin too as it is very useful. https://t…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @willchegwidden: @AvrilDrummond1 I think striking the balance between protecting your IP and being open to collaborating with new and ju…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @EllenChisman: ooo good to think about! maybe depends on the nature of your enquiry and what you are trying to find out/seeking to then…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. I was pants at maths at school. I really didn't get it. I'm not a world expert now but I really enjoy stats in…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @MaryBirken: Having quants methods core part of OT training. Reading OT rct papers to learn how to understand, critique & interpret resu…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@SensationalOT For a big RCT, I think you need a few researchers who share same vision for the research and generally agree on the design of it. So collaboration is key... aside from just our workplaces. #otalk
Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1
Q3 Need to develop research culture from within NHS with the development of more clinical academic posts to forge stronger links with academics in university settings. #otalk
Nic @mcgarveynic
@preston_jenny @KimBellOT @AvrilDrummond1 I like stars 🌟 too ☺️ #OTalk personally I prefer them to stats! 👍🏼
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
I can understand day to day research not prioritised but other professions do both as standard & we need to adopt this too. #clinicalacademicOTs #otalk https://t.co/NGQOp4VJgr
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@AvrilDrummond1 Being part of a team with experience in RCTing - can't do them on your own #otalk
Kathleen N-Cassidy @KNthakomwa
@AvrilDrummond1 Knowledge + confidence + experience . +imight feel alien to some people+ feel miss out on rich contextual factors with quant #OTalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonOT
@AvrilDrummond1 Frequency - making research (all kinds) more common place, usual and prioritised. Ingraining research into everyday clinical practice I feel would help to normalise as well as add to the professions pool of knowledge #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Thank you for your honesty here @SensationalOT ... it can be a hard and lonely path at times, but very important to connect with like-minded people who can support you (like the #OTalk Research community!) #OTalk https://t.co/f6YcSEqunl
Stephy'Ren Nana @stephyren
@MaryBirken There needs to be a lot more input in teaching about quality research from an onset #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: Thank you for your honesty here @SensationalOT ... it can be a hard and lonely path at times, but very important to connect wit…
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
I am hoping that taking a post grad course about research will be a good start. Also going to keep an eye out for what is going on with the senita trial about ASI starting this year #OTalk https://t.co/Ub0yV4To2Q
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @willchegwidden: @AvrilDrummond1 I think striking the balance between protecting your IP and being open to collaborating with new and ju…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @POPPED_Project: @AvrilDrummond1 Being part of a team with experience in RCTing - can't do them on your own #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: Having quants methods core part of OT training. Reading OT rct papers to learn how to understand, critique & interpret resu…
David R. Pollard @davidpollardirl
RT @akwyz: Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse htt…
MOTION Research @MOT1ON_Research
@OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 As part of the working groups within @MOT1ON_Research we are developing a network for members - as part of this we will be exploring different methods for use for economic evaluation within effectiveness studies of MH OT interventions, inc randomised controlled trials #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @BillWongOT: @SensationalOT For a big RCT, I think you need a few researchers who share same vision for the research and generally agree…
Dr. Dorrie Cooper @sittingpretty61
RT @akwyz: Very few Minnesotans living with disabilities run for office. That may be changing - #axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse htt…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. So everyone- Q4. have YOU been involved in conducting an RCT? How did you get involved?
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Exactly...we need to push 4 clinical academic posts..I'd love one! #otalk https://t.co/lTlq2iNmBX
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken I think a semester or academic term at it is not enough. It will be helpful if we provide more incentives for people to submit research at present them at conferences. #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk . That's just fab!! https://t.co/N6k92cTPWx
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @MOT1ON_Research: @OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 As part of the working groups within @MOT1ON_Research we are developing a network for members…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @SensationalOT: I am hoping that taking a post grad course about research will be a good start. Also going to keep an eye out for what…
Philip Mason @pjmasonOT
@PaulaOtter1 Amen #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken And here is an outside the box idea- the lead researcher of a major RCT in OT should receive free RCOT (or the conference of his/her home country) conference registration for life! 😆 #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Here you are @carspring27 :-) #OTalk https://t.co/VwdqGKYdT2
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: Here you are @carspring27 :-) #OTalk https://t.co/VwdqGKYdT2
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
YES! How big is big enough? Especially in populations that are already small? #OTalk https://t.co/U6KslDrFfn
Innovative Research Across the Life Course @covuni_ciral
RT @mcgarveynic: Hi, looking toward to the discussion. I’ve just started an MRes with the @NIHR_trainees @CovUni_CIRAL, qual study mind you…
OTalk @OTalk_
Time is truly flying this evening ... here's Q4 from @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk https://t.co/DqIDM4uNOw
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken But if it’s my kind of workplace, then we need to be willing to go extra mile to do such! #otalk
Kathleen N-Cassidy @KNthakomwa
@AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk working with other OT'S with experience or working interprofessionally with other disciplines. Training +experience. .
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: Time is truly flying this evening ... here's Q4 from @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk https://t.co/DqIDM4uNOw
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the world. Well worth fighting for. https://t.co/fuGtk0e0m2
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk . That's just fab!! https://t.co/N6k92cTPWx
Stephy'Ren Nana @stephyren
@KimBellOT @AvrilDrummond1 I think in today’s society OT need to showcase their worth in tangible figures due to the economy pressures. Hence it is worth perusing qualitative research #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @preston_jenny: @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the worl…
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
Not been involved but still love the RCTs out of USC in well elderly- showing that just good OT and having meaningful occupations saves money https://t.co/FoWg322Q6G #OTalk
Orla @orlatheot
RT @preston_jenny: @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the worl…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Totally agree BUT we also need to work with what we have now as well. How can we do this within th scope of current practice. #Otalk otherwise we go down path of no research unless we have clinical academic posts https://t.co/wU0w9Dbx5F
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 I’ve been involved in several feasibility and pilot studies. Building up to the RCT. https://t.co/FpgV7xZxzT
OTalk @OTalk_
Don't forget the #OTalk @Tori_Doll_ https://t.co/XOV3C71X5f
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken Yup- and they just need to send article on peer reviewed journal to OT association bodies as proof! I think that is a good small token gesture to reward hard work! #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
I agree.. more scholarships to present research at conferences 😆 #otalk https://t.co/qSCls5Eou4
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@AvrilDrummond1 Not yet, but i've been tailing the generous team members at the @WarwickCTU to see whats involved - and think about challenges in my setting for future reference #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. Are they your own studies? https://t.co/hxk3nC7tcX
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
Sadly no. So its my mission to follow all the yes folk and get them to mentor me... forewarned is forearmed 😉#OTalk https://t.co/vhFDVmHzhb
Carol @carspring27
@PaulaOtter1 I would love a clinical academic post...how on earth do you get one of these? #OTalk
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #OTalk. I was pants at maths at school. I really didn't get it. I'm not a world expert now but I really enjoy stats in…
Tori OT @Tori_Doll_
@OTalk_ Ooops! I'm a #OTalk novice 🙈
Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden
@preston_jenny @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 Yes more clinical academic posts please!!! #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. I'm speaking at Warwick univ tomorrow- on rehab research!! https://t.co/ajGqwoLlaU
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@LynneGoodacre Encouraging forward thinking managers to include time and resource for research within clinical contracts even if not a formal clinical academic post #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MaryBirken And here is another idea- I think major OT researchers should get Association memberships in its own category... and their rates should be WAY cheaper than the practitioners’ one. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
I like your style @SensationalOT #OTalk https://t.co/xhXf17T2l9
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#OTalk. And attack is everything! https://t.co/DbViKzBI3z
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @POPPED_Project: @LynneGoodacre Encouraging forward thinking managers to include time and resource for research within clinical contract…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: Totally agree BUT we also need to work with what we have now as well. How can we do this within th scope of current prac…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
😂😂@mcgarveynic #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thank you for noticing my wee spelling mistake 👍. I did notice but thought it was too hard to go back and correct. I’m with you on the stars versus stats all the way. https://t.co/GvldkvUHoC
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @KNthakomwa: @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk working with other OT'S with experience or working interprofessionally with other disciplines. Tra…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. sounds like a topic for another day! https://t.co/6Gawou8SwB
Nic @mcgarveynic
@AvrilDrummond1 @POPPED_Project @WarwickCTU #OTalk, I’m in Coventry, are you speaking at the uni there at any point??
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@AvrilDrummond1 I know - i'm planning to come and 👋 #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
I've been a collaborator on rct when in practice, an OT intervention was included, OTs I supervised delivered it. Huge insight into project management and following protocol! #otalk https://t.co/MhuHv3zcdZ
OTalk @OTalk_
As @LynneGoodacre said earlier a great way to get involved in an RCT is to deliver the intervention on a current one. Find out what's out there via your R&D dept or the NIHR #OTalk https://t.co/DqIDM4uNOw
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. just what we want to hear! https://t.co/lrTv1PTmoH
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
And one thing I wish I have- be invited to be an adjunct and just help with quantitative research only. But now I can’t because I am going to become even more of a workaholic. #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: As @LynneGoodacre said earlier a great way to get involved in an RCT is to deliver the intervention on a current one. Find out…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Part of research collaborations but the original research ideas were all generated within occupational therapy practice. https://t.co/hIEkiUe4i6
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MaryBirken: I've been a collaborator on rct when in practice, an OT intervention was included, OTs I supervised delivered it. Huge insi…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @willchegwidden: @preston_jenny @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 Yes more clinical academic posts please!!! #otalk
LPT Research Team @lptresearch
RT @preston_jenny: @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the worl…
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@mcgarveynic @AvrilDrummond1 @WarwickCTU Oh hello!! We know each other by email but not yet in the real world! come along tomorrow, Warwick uni's in coventry after all - not far away #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. I will if you ask me! https://t.co/967e4OvYx3
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Part of research collaborations but the original research ideas were all generated within occupat…
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. So many ways of getting involved.....! https://t.co/b5UUKjHfup
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
I've run several.feasibility studies & building up to rct now....wish I had rct experience pre-phd- more job opportunities there at that level! #otalk https://t.co/MhuHv3zcdZ
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @preston_jenny: 😂😂@mcgarveynic #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thank you for noticing my wee spelling mistake 👍. I did notice but thought it was…
SusanCorr @SusanCorr1
RT @PaulaOtter1: Q3 Need to develop research culture from within NHS with the development of more clinical academic posts to forge stronger…
OTalk @OTalk_
Some great conversations and connections. Time is running out. Final thoughts anyone? #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. This is important point. But doesn't mean we shouldn't us this methodology! https://t.co/S3VLenAVqP
Nic @mcgarveynic
@POPPED_Project @AvrilDrummond1 @WarwickCTU #OTalk yes I realised it was you! Small world of research OT’s!! Can you email the deets pls??
Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1
Out trust has been very forward thinking with development of 2 new posts. Started in October 2017... will attempt to write up for OT news at some point soon to share the experience so far as I think people will be interested #OTalk https://t.co/7dQerdwnfk
Nic @mcgarveynic
@AvrilDrummond1 @POPPED_Project @WarwickCTU #OTalk 😂 you’re on!! 👍🏼
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. Last question! What are the benefits of being involved in running an RCT? personally or professionally?
Therese Lebedis @therese_jackson
@AvrilDrummond1 I'm late to the party ....Q4 Good opportunity when able to be a site for multi centre RCTs - offers OTs the to get involved with well designed trials and gain experience #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ If we are talking about behind the scenes for any RCT’s we want to do, then we got to network and find potential collaborators! Conference is a good way to do that. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
We'll look forward to reading about it #OTalk https://t.co/hyaExssOju
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
For anyone unfamiliar with the work of @NIHR here’s the link to their website so much to explore there. https://t.co/6xBhPfmLia #OTalk
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
@BillWongOT @MaryBirken Doesn’t this tip the scale away from clinicians who aren’t as well resourced or funded? Don’t major researchers often end up as keynote speakers? 🤔 I have been fortunate enough to do a poster but had to self fund and found it really tough. #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Absolutely! #OTalk https://t.co/DJgAH4pdCP
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. Did you bring a bottle? another great way to get involved. https://t.co/J95MZj9j3J
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @therese_jackson: @AvrilDrummond1 I'm late to the party ....Q4 Good opportunity when able to be a site for multi centre RCTs - offers OT…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ Also, if we want to do RCT’s, make sure we have good relationships with universities that have biostatisticians! These biostatisticians need to know what we do, and we need to know what biostatisticians want. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any final thoughts on the benefits as we draw tonight's chat to a close? #OTalk https://t.co/EioIvmlJJO
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @OTalk_: Any final thoughts on the benefits as we draw tonight's chat to a close? #OTalk https://t.co/EioIvmlJJO
OTalk @OTalk_
Thanks @LynneGoodacre #OTalk https://t.co/0WZqvY4FVL
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @willchegwidden: @preston_jenny @PaulaOtter1 @AvrilDrummond1 Yes more clinical academic posts please!!! #otalk
Theresa Travis @s9tmt
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Part of research collaborations but the original research ideas were all generated within occupat…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: For anyone unfamiliar with the work of @NIHR here’s the link to their website so much to explore there. https://t.co/6xB…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@SensationalOT @MaryBirken I think this depends. But you do have a point. Florence Clark has done quite a bit of keynotes! #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Sorry to have missed tonight’s #OTalk will catch up now @AvrilDrummond1
Therese Lebedis @therese_jackson
@AvrilDrummond1 Great way to learn how t interpret other research and apply appropriately to practice #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K
OTalk @OTalk_
Wowee what a whirlwind of a chat tonight. I thought there might be fisty-cuffs at one point between qual and quant but we pressed on through nicely! Thanks to @AvrilDrummond1 for leading us through tonight's #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#otalk Nothing you don't already know! https://t.co/LdLphcsS55
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @LynneGoodacre: Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Thanks so much @AvrilDrummond1 for a fab talk and @hooper_ek for keeping us all on topic etc #OTalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: For anyone unfamiliar with the work of @NIHR here’s the link to their website so much to explore there. https://t.co/6xB…
OTalk @OTalk_
Don't forget that the transcript will be posted in a couple of days #OTalk
Libby Callaway @libby_callaway
Thanks for sharing @LynneGoodacre #OTalk https://t.co/mA7OBr9KBJ
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk Thanks all for fab questions and comments. RCTs really are important in OT. Not more important- just important! https://t.co/AfYLSu6bXe
Stephy'Ren Nana @stephyren
@pjmasonOT @AvrilDrummond1 In my experience most OTs are not keen in partaking in qualitative research processes. It is hard enough trying to get them to volunteer as participants in research #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Also, if anyone out there would like to host one of our monthly #OTalk Research chats please let us know!
Beverley Turtle @bevsaturtle
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #Otalk Thanks all for fab questions and comments. RCTs really are important in OT. Not more important- just important!…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: @AvrilDrummond1 #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 I think perhaps the nature of the research questions that occupational therapists…
Kim Bell @kimbellot
@OTalk_ @AvrilDrummond1 Thanks for #otalk, great procrastination tonight but... now back to my annotated bibliography
Christopher McMillan @ceektechnology
RT @akwyz: We Need to Build Accessibility Into Our Digital Workplaces -#axschat #a11y #WeScNs #OTalk #benurse https://t.co/8mHnmIxN9k
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@OTalk_ I should set an alarm for #otalk research so i don't rock up 40 mins late and miss the debate.
Therese Lebedis @therese_jackson
@OTalk_ look forward to reading it #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
#OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thanks for a really interesting chat tonight. I’m always fascinated by the different perceptions. Some new resources to check out too thanks to @LynneGoodacre #CPD
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. Thanks so much to @OTalk_ for the opportunity to do this. And lovely Emma! @hooper_ek https://t.co/HJFFYxhHTf
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LynneGoodacre: I’m wondering if more people are stepping into quant via mixed methods studies now? #OTalk
Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT
Thanks #OTalk- gotta love a good MOOC! It’s where I met most of my neuro pals 😁 @excitableape @neuroMOOC @voswis @DecisionNeuro https://t.co/GUort8aKhF
OTalk @OTalk_
Thank you all and Goodnight! @hooper_ek signing off for the evening! #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @OTalk_: Also, if anyone out there would like to host one of our monthly #OTalk Research chats please let us know!
Stephy'Ren Nana @stephyren
@AvrilDrummond1 @AvrilDrummond1 thanks for hosting the #OTalk I enjoyed it
Bethan Mair Edwards @pixiegirle
@POPPED_Project @OTalk_ I arrived 65 minutes late 😂😂 #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @AvrilDrummond1: #Otalk Thanks all for fab questions and comments. RCTs really are important in OT. Not more important- just important!…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Using the MRC Framework we often don’t have the earlier knowledge re feasibility, piloting etc to…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @MaryBirken: Describing the intervention in detail and what outcomes to measure can be challenge #otalk https://t.co/A3YgRvtxs8
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@LynneGoodacre @NIHR it's @OfficialNIHR - the other now is human resources northern ireland 😂 #otalk
Carolynne White OT @Carolynne_OT
@AvrilDrummond1 For me, being involved in an RCT helped me understand how evidence is produced and guided by researcher’s assumptions. So many benefits were not captured by outcome measures chosen. #OTalk #mixedmethods
Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project
@pixiegirle @OTalk_ Ach. best laid plans !! #otalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 Thanks for a really interesting chat tonight. I’m always fascinated by the different perceptions…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk @AvrilDrummond1 @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @POPPED_Project: @LynneGoodacre @NIHR it's @OfficialNIHR - the other now is human resources northern ireland 😂 #otalk
Kathleen N-Cassidy @KNthakomwa
@AvrilDrummond1 I think it would help justify our role to commissioners .. would be good for measuring outcomes too. developing confidence +skills #OTalk
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
RT @Carolynne_OT: @AvrilDrummond1 For me, being involved in an RCT helped me understand how evidence is produced and guided by researcher’…
Carolynne White OT @Carolynne_OT
RT @KimBellOT: OTs always want to find out why and numbers only tell a small part of the story. Lives are more complex and can't often be n…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LynneGoodacre: Also check out resources in offer from @NIHR & start talking to people involved in research from other professions #OTAl
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @LynneGoodacre: Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K
Avril Drummond @AvrilDrummond1
#Otalk. and from me. Thanks all for such great input! https://t.co/TE5DvgQPjl
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Love this - me too, stats are a necessary part of research depending on the question you are trying to answer #OTalk https://t.co/mUWluiXhXP
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BillWongOT: @SensationalOT For a big RCT, I think you need a few researchers who share same vision for the research and generally agree…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @PaulaOtter1: Q3 Need to develop research culture from within NHS with the development of more clinical academic posts to forge stronger…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @pjmasonOT: @AvrilDrummond1 Frequency - making research (all kinds) more common place, usual and prioritised. Ingraining research into e…
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