#OTalk Transcript
Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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 | #OTalk @OTalk_ Evening all! It’s [REDACTED USER] on the @OTalk account for tonight’s #OTalk Research. Say hi if you’re in the Twittersphere this evening with us! #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ You’ll have to bear with me this evening if I lag behind … my computer is on a total tortoise crawl!! #OTalk |
| @LynneGoodacre Hi everyone I’m here hoping you’re all in fine fettle #OTalk | |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Remember as always the usual rules apply …. Respect each other, remember your code of conduct and don’t forget the # #OTalk |
| @LynneGoodacre Hope it’s going well [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/oZq412CcNF | |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Oh, and have fun! #OTalk |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT Hello folks! #otalk |
 | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Hi #OTalk I’m here too, trying to catch up on emails at the same time tonight. |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ It’s great to have [REDACTED USER] hosting tonight’s chat on RCTs. Avril, would you like to post your first question for us please and we'll go down the rabbit hole of RCTs? #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Lots of multitasking going on as ever this evening! #OTalk https://t.co/mQF51XDqn2 |
 | Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1 Hello, lurking in between taxi runs with kids. New to research with a clinical academic fellowship supported by NHS trust and university #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk here's Avril's first question folks https://t.co/MOESYE1C2P |
| @LynneGoodacre Here’s a risk 1 st question #OTAlk https://t.co/fq2uxwJU8n | |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny [REDACTED USER] #OTalk [REDACTED USER] I think perhaps the nature of the research questions that occupational therapists ask often lend themselves more to qualitative methodologies. |
 | grainne carley @gra_carley More likely to focus on qual, I think, & it's because may be considered more person centred, drawing out on client experiences & giving voice to these #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ I think certain subjects- numbers don’t tell whole story! Autism for example... I prefer qualitative over qualitative. #otalk |
| Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1 Q1 I think when new to research qualitative seems much more achievable, especially with no funding and if completing on your own whilst continuing to work as a clinician #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ And for others like rehab setting- mixed study might be better. Like Berg fall scale coupled with follow up interviews with elderly. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ I like that train of thought [REDACTED USER] ... is there a sensae that qual research is a precursor to quant maybe? #OTalk https://t.co/RC2wpdAuJL |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @PaulaOtter1: Q1 I think when new to research qualitative seems much more achievable, especially with no funding and if completing on yo… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gra_carley: More likely to focus on qual, I think, & it's because may be considered more person centred, drawing out on client experien… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @PaulaOtter1 @PaulaOtter1 #OTalk This is really interesting and a common mis-perception in my view. Good quality qualitative research is just as hard as quantitative as I experienced with the help of [REDACTED USER] |
| @LynneGoodacre I’m wondering if more people are stepping into quant via mixed methods studies now? #OTalk | |
 | Orla @orlatheot [REDACTED USER] From my masters cohort, we have 1 quantitative paper and the rest are qualitative (few are doing systematic reviews). I think it appeals to #OccupationalTherapy as you can collect rich data about the topic and the context. The whys instead of the what and how. #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ But can numbers sometimes tell a powerful story too @KimBellOT ? #OTalk https://t.co/H5RyhxuFmM |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @KimBellOT And some assessments we have- they might not be too sensitive to minor improvements. Modified Barthel Index is a good example. #otalk |
| Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1 @preston_jenny [REDACTED USER] Agree it seems just as hard... But for me seems an easier staring point. I can relate much easier to case study methodology and don't feel quite as overwhelmed. #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk https://t.co/XOV3C71X5f |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @orlatheot [REDACTED USER] @orlatheot [REDACTED USER] #OTalk But surely the what and how are also important if we are to advance our knowledge and practice. |
| @LynneGoodacre Perhaps also the skills for qual research are aligned closely to the clinical skills we feel comfortable with, active listening, powerful questions, etc #OTalk | |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I heard a lot of my former classmates fear stats. But I also think what we are trying to research on... numbers don’t completely capture whole story. #otalk |
| @LynneGoodacre I'd second that as well #OTalk https://t.co/50Sv6OnPRm | |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] Also, what is the clinical significance of 1 point reduction on a 10 point scale regards to pain? Sometimes that might be statistically significant, but not clinically significant. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] Some of the subjects we research on- they are not conducive to RCT format. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Moving on in the discussion folks, here's Q2 from [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/2fhESKA9le |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @EllenChisman Me would be a no... lol! Might be because I am from state background. I just need to dust off rust! #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Most measures would indicate a clinically significant change in addition to a statistically significant one #OTalk https://t.co/thTh7sz3pM |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @KimWillisOT [REDACTED USER] Well- I had to use R and SAS when I was in undergrad doing my stats major. That was a lot more daunting than minitab and SPSS. #otalk |
| grainne carley @gra_carley RCTs seem to require more clients, more resources for research, withholding or delay of treatment..also v little RCTs in OT lit historically #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Using the MRC Framework we often don’t have the earlier knowledge re feasibility, piloting etc to allow us to progress to RCT. We need to get more comfortable with the earlier stages and see them as valid stepping stones. https://t.co/7Z3fsHPpXx |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I second that. I think that was why many OT lecturers hope that I turn out to be a quantitative researcher. As things turned out though... it was not what they planned! #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gra_carley: RCTs seem to require more clients, more resources for research, withholding or delay of treatment..also v little RCTs in OT… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Thsts where working as part of a research team can really help to pull on each other’s knowledge and skills. None of us can do this all on our own. https://t.co/ekMVGxJBL5 |
| Orla @orlatheot @preston_jenny [REDACTED USER] True! But I think the in-depth picture qualitative brings appeals to the students I've talked to in my experience #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Thsts where working as part of a research team can really help to pull on each other’s knowledge… |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Recognising the value of the stepping stones & pressing on towards the RCT goal. It's definitely a long-haul experience isn't it @preston_jenny ? #OTalk https://t.co/nUscnHwatR |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @preston_jenny [REDACTED USER] And we also got to pool data so that there can be a more robust study. Also, we should create niches for biostatisticians! They just need to be educated about why we do what we do. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @KimBellOT [REDACTED USER] I prefer SPSS or minitab over SAS any day! #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ It definitely needs a team approach, would you agree [REDACTED USER] ? #OTalk https://t.co/doWxysL0Hs |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the right people so it is no different in research. I have collaborations with clinical colleagues and academic colleagues who have similar interests. https://t.co/6FBzACwaB4 |
| @LynneGoodacre Also looking out for those jobs when they are advertised #OTalk, https://t.co/0BUAKqwQMC | |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I understand very clearly... but I think it was because of my background. I inquired about why we don’t as first. But as I found out topics of research, I was often like, “Well, that can be be done... but probably be extremely difficult.” Or “No way that will be an RCT.” #otalk |
| @LynneGoodacre Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR | |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk [REDACTED USER] @carspring27 Good point!! As occupational therapists we are good at making connections with the… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ I agree @LynneGoodacre - that is how I got involved in the mysterious world of quantitative research :-) #OTalk https://t.co/WFZI2EqUGD |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I disagree. I think they have a place in our profession. I think we need to collaborate more so that we can gather a great enough sample on topics that can be done via RCT. #otalk |
| @LynneGoodacre There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual studies could raise questions about this. I say this as a qual research #OTalk https://t.co/YBZdWMCKek | |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: Delivering an intervention on someone else’s RCT is a great way to get experience #OTalk https://t.co/5Ts1YomfLR |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Moving on from the challenges, here's Q3 from [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/n91XfyqSsK |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] A good example will be something like including yoga as part of OT treatment for a patient group vs. control and measure its effects. Then we pool together enough people for a RCT study. #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual stud… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: There has been a lot of mention of depth & qual research but the small size and cross sectional design of many qual stud… |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk https://t.co/RmbQsvmGV4 |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I probably am part of a minority- I am confident, but I wear too many hats at the moment! #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ A great way to get started [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/KxD8TpOacv |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk @KimBellOT [REDACTED USER] I was never a mathematician either but get really excited now by stars when they relate to my own work and I can understand what they mean. It needs to be real for me too. https://t.co/E4z2lNHVo2 |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] For certain things like FIM score differences, I think it will be better with a lot more people... since that will be more robust with bigger sample size. #otalk |
| @LynneGoodacre Also check out resources in offer from @NIHR & start talking to people involved in research from other professions #OTAlk also check out Council for allied health professionals Research network https://t.co/JCNYMNMXdg | |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Totally agree [REDACTED USER] It's a great resource #OTalk https://t.co/2Et1lQ5TEr |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk @carspring27 [REDACTED USER] Get your name added to the [REDACTED USER] R&D Bulletin too as it is very useful. https://t.co/eZxfnfjk5R |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] For a big RCT, I think you need a few researchers who share same vision for the research and generally agree on the design of it. So collaboration is key... aside from just our workplaces. #otalk |
| Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1 Q3 Need to develop research culture from within NHS with the development of more clinical academic posts to forge stronger links with academics in university settings. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Thank you for your honesty here [REDACTED USER] ... it can be a hard and lonely path at times, but very important to connect with like-minded people who can support you (like the #OTalk Research community!) #OTalk https://t.co/f6YcSEqunl |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @BillWongOT: [REDACTED USER] For a big RCT, I think you need a few researchers who share same vision for the research and generally agree… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I think a semester or academic term at it is not enough. It will be helpful if we provide more incentives for people to submit research at present them at conferences. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] And here is an outside the box idea- the lead researcher of a major RCT in OT should receive free RCOT (or the conference of his/her home country) conference registration for life! 😆 #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Here you are @carspring27 :-) #OTalk https://t.co/VwdqGKYdT2 |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Time is truly flying this evening ... here's Q4 from [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/DqIDM4uNOw |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] But if it’s my kind of workplace, then we need to be willing to go extra mile to do such! #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @PaulaOtter1 [REDACTED USER] #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the world. Well worth fighting for. https://t.co/fuGtk0e0m2 |
| Orla @orlatheot RT @preston_jenny: @PaulaOtter1 [REDACTED USER] #OTalk They are amazing! I have a clinical academic post and wouldn’t swap it for the worl… |
| @LynneGoodacre Totally agree BUT we also need to work with what we have now as well. How can we do this within th scope of current practice. #Otalk otherwise we go down path of no research unless we have clinical academic posts https://t.co/wU0w9Dbx5F | |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] I’ve been involved in several feasibility and pilot studies. Building up to the RCT. https://t.co/FpgV7xZxzT |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Don't forget the #OTalk [REDACTED USER] https://t.co/XOV3C71X5f |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] Yup- and they just need to send article on peer reviewed journal to OT association bodies as proof! I think that is a good small token gesture to reward hard work! #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] And here is another idea- I think major OT researchers should get Association memberships in its own category... and their rates should be WAY cheaper than the practitioners’ one. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ I like your style [REDACTED USER] #OTalk https://t.co/xhXf17T2l9 |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Totally agree BUT we also need to work with what we have now as well. How can we do this within th scope of current prac… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny 😂😂[REDACTED USER] #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Thank you for noticing my wee spelling mistake 👍. I did notice but thought it was too hard to go back and correct. I’m with you on the stars versus stats all the way. https://t.co/GvldkvUHoC |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ As @LynneGoodacre said earlier a great way to get involved in an RCT is to deliver the intervention on a current one. Find out what's out there via your R&D dept or the NIHR #OTalk https://t.co/DqIDM4uNOw |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT And one thing I wish I have- be invited to be an adjunct and just help with quantitative research only. But now I can’t because I am going to become even more of a workaholic. #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Part of research collaborations but the original research ideas were all generated within occupational therapy practice. https://t.co/hIEkiUe4i6 |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Part of research collaborations but the original research ideas were all generated within occupat… |
 | Susan Corr💙 @SusanCorr1 RT @PaulaOtter1: Q3 Need to develop research culture from within NHS with the development of more clinical academic posts to forge stronger… |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Some great conversations and connections. Time is running out. Final thoughts anyone? #OTalk |
| Paula Otter @PaulaOtter1 Out trust has been very forward thinking with development of 2 new posts. Started in October 2017... will attempt to write up for OT news at some point soon to share the experience so far as I think people will be interested #OTalk https://t.co/7dQerdwnfk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ If we are talking about behind the scenes for any RCT’s we want to do, then we got to network and find potential collaborators! Conference is a good way to do that. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ We'll look forward to reading about it #OTalk https://t.co/hyaExssOju |
| @LynneGoodacre For anyone unfamiliar with the work of @NIHR here’s the link to their website so much to explore there. https://t.co/6xBhPfmLia #OTalk | |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Absolutely! #OTalk https://t.co/DJgAH4pdCP |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Also, if we want to do RCT’s, make sure we have good relationships with universities that have biostatisticians! These biostatisticians need to know what we do, and we need to know what biostatisticians want. #otalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Any final thoughts on the benefits as we draw tonight's chat to a close? #OTalk https://t.co/EioIvmlJJO |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Thanks @LynneGoodacre #OTalk https://t.co/0WZqvY4FVL |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: For anyone unfamiliar with the work of @NIHR here’s the link to their website so much to explore there. https://t.co/6xB… |
| @LynneGoodacre Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K | |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] I think this depends. But you do have a point. Florence Clark has done quite a bit of keynotes! #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Wowee what a whirlwind of a chat tonight. I thought there might be fisty-cuffs at one point between qual and quant but we pressed on through nicely! Thanks to [REDACTED USER] for leading us through tonight's #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: Also this free MOOC has just started but you can still join #OTAlk https://t.co/4Mwqkl7B5K |
| @LynneGoodacre Thanks so much [REDACTED USER] for a fab talk and [REDACTED USER] for keeping us all on topic etc #OTalk | |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Don't forget that the transcript will be posted in a couple of days #OTalk |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Also, if anyone out there would like to host one of our monthly #OTalk Research chats please let us know! |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk [REDACTED USER] Thanks for a really interesting chat tonight. I’m always fascinated by the different perceptions. Some new resources to check out too thanks to @LynneGoodacre #CPD |
| #OTalk @OTalk_ Thank you all and Goodnight! [REDACTED USER] signing off for the evening! #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @OTalk_: Also, if anyone out there would like to host one of our monthly #OTalk Research chats please let us know! |
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