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![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Hello everyone and welcome to tonight's #Otalk Research. @preston_jenny is here on the account tonight and delighted to be welcoming @LoganPip for her first ever Twitter chat. Who else is joining us tonight, please say hello. |
@LynneGoodacre Hi everyone if you’re joining #OTalk research tonight pls ignore all posts about AI and chat bots they are nothing to do with us. So pls. Don’t click on the links | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Some housekeeping rules for tonight: 1. Please use #OTalk to allow us to capture the discussions 2. Remember code of conduct 3. Have fun |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Welcome on board @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/fqve0yWp2K |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Great to have everyone joining us tonight #OTalk Research. Are we good to go with the first question @LoganPip? |
@LynneGoodacre Can you tell us what CAIP is [REDACTED USER] #otalk https://t.co/XcmYTzqBUx | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT Sorry I am late. 😄 #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre Here’s the 1st questions #otalk https://t.co/HIKqFTc2Ul | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Just a gentle reminder to use #OTalk in all your Tweets please, thank you 👍 |
![]() | daphne @djdpix Hello #OTalk joining the chat tonight. It's been a long while. Interested in raising profile of OT through research. Current work in MH |
@LynneGoodacre A few buffering probs tonight #OTalk so Q1 was has anyone thought of applying for NIHR clinical academic funding | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Just to remind everyone our first question is “ Have you applied r thought about applying for a personal award or project grant to NIHR? #OTalk |
![]() | daphne @djdpix @LoganPip Hi. I have been looking at these opps for some time. Do you have to have research experience to go for pre doc fellowship #OTalk |
@LynneGoodacre Which were you thinking of [REDACTED USER] #Otalk https://t.co/wiR4lR9P6b | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre Seems like I am going to be mostly lurking and retweeting today... since the topic is more UK based. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Pip if you can use #OTalk please instead of @OTalk, we all make this wee mistake. https://t.co/hVZ6HAAy6r |
@LynneGoodacre What would you like to know [REDACTED USER] #otalk https://t.co/O0ccBRh5or | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] @LynneGoodacre True- probably just those thoughts... and in US we have NIH funding in terms of research $. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ [REDACTED USER] And we're they successful? #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] Isn’t it for everything we WANT to do in OT? #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre Would you be interested #OTAlk. https://t.co/90AeNJXtC1 | |
@LoganPip I need a 16 year old to help #OTalk | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip In the US... I have learned to never say never for these things. A good few friends have their clinical doctorates... and then to go to pursue a PhD in something a few years later. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ That's a good point. @LoganPip are they available for all four UK countries #OTalk https://t.co/9r6yELCAfT |
@LynneGoodacre Great to be thinking about it now as many people leave it too late to do the preparation work #OTAlk. A common mistake is not leaving enough time https://t.co/rp0ueDc12h | |
@LynneGoodacre So [REDACTED USER] not everyone will understand the acronyms can you explain PCAF #otalk https://t.co/Acfj9F62V6 | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Any learning so far you could share with us [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/8kSGa2nUt6 |
![]() | daphne @djdpix @LynneGoodacre @LoganPip also is it possible to do masters simultaneously? Or indeed expected?#OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ So is this something you might think about now [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/1u5unQ16dM |
@LynneGoodacre Not really these are personal awards. The research must have a direct impact of patient care but no specific priorities. The focus on you are your potential to become a lead Research is as important as the project #Otalk https://t.co/dY3v74LIfb | |
@LoganPip The new PCAF scheme from the NIHR, closing date in April is a good way to get started before the PhD. #OTalk | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ @LoganPip are we ready for question 2 #OTalk Research? |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Not really these are personal awards. The research must have a direct impact of patient care but no specific priorities.… |
@LynneGoodacre They are not to be scared of. And there is a lot of support from NIHR and also RCOT in completing them #OTalk https://t.co/WkYTazmNb9 | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ So how can we make this easier [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/RPaE5LHO84 |
@LoganPip The applications are now two stages for the doctorate, so not as bad.... but you will need help. #OTalk | |
@LynneGoodacre That would place you well to get everything looking really good #OTalk the costing, your trust sign up, supervisors etc https://t.co/xG8sZwuwDy | |
@smileyfacehalo #Otalk hi , late to the party!..... Are there any post doc opportunities with nihr funding, and how apply? | |
@LoganPip why do we think that far more physio's compared to OTs apply for these NIHR awards. #OTalk | |
![]() | daphne @djdpix [REDACTED USER] what area do you work in? #OTalk |
@LynneGoodacre NIHR are no longer funding Masters in research it changed this year and has been replaced with Pre Doctoral awards #Otalk https://t.co/Qb6JOWoMLh | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Fantastic [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/2ToIAdUVEd |
@LynneGoodacre The focus is on a personal training programme at the end of which you have prepared your PhD, some will be taught but it may include other things as well #OTalk https://t.co/5CBK3io5eo | |
@LynneGoodacre The NIHR awards do not specify conditions or projects. The big difference she is that they are personal awards so are funding you #Otalk https://t.co/sZNiwEp2ZM | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Question 2: Compared to other AHPs, occupational therapists are least likely to apply for NIHR research funding. Why do you think this is? @LoganPip #OTalk Research |
![]() | daphne @djdpix [REDACTED USER] @_becsut @LynneGoodacre it's good if you can get your workplace on board #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] @LynneGoodacre I think you can only look at what you have the ability to do at the time. In the US, I really would have wanted a research doctorate. But my grades didn’t cooperate. 😂 #otalk |
@LoganPip We get a lot of physios and dieticians applying for the intern and doctoral awards, I wonder why not OTs? #OTalk | |
@LynneGoodacre A great way to start [REDACTED USER] and will help you connect with potential supervisors, do some pilot/prep work as well #OTalk https://t.co/DKfE5DfGDm | |
@LynneGoodacre Last year they ran 2 workshops, one to provide general information about the ICA awards and the other focused specifically in those submitting an application to help with the process. They were advertised by RCOT #Otalk https://t.co/XI1IXBs2sP | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] I think in the US- we do have a good number, but not significantly more in terms of people I know. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ This is excellent [REDACTED USER]. What advice would you give to others to help them share in this success @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/NkfHaB284b |
@LoganPip The NIHR have an advocates page with OTs in different places who can help with the forms. #OTalk and yes the Research Design Services are very keen on supporting OTs | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] @OTalk_ @LoganPip And in my kind of workplace in US... time is something you got to find on your own! #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre The great thing about NIHR funding is that it does pay backfill for your salary. One of the few funding schemes that does #OTAlk https://t.co/gINfaFXirn | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ I'm sure lots of our participants will want to take you up on this offer @pixiegirlie @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/GwCgk1dJBm |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @robbrooks_uk @OTalk_ @LoganPip This is a global problem I think. We need to be proactive in identify potential scientists and researchers and mentor them. #otalk |
@LoganPip internships are perfect, some are for pre masters and some pre doctorate and there even some for post docs, usually about 40 days worth of funding. #OTalk | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Good pointb@Louisepenny87, we are coming on to this! @LoganPip #OTalk Research https://t.co/6wyRLx3Iqw |
@LynneGoodacre Here’s the link to all the info about the ICA scheme https://t.co/9vsKpJ1I34 somewhere in there is information for managers as well for those of you wanting to talk to managers about applying, read it first #OTalk | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ @ozcboss @LoganPip @kithanga So is this a process issue #OTalk Research |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @robbrooks_uk @OTalk_ @LoganPip I think it has to start at student level. Instructors have to do a good job in talent spotting and nurture them. #otalk |
@LoganPip yes, How can I as the lead NIHR advocate and a Prof help OTs to believe in themselves and come forward for funding like the other AHPs do? #OTalk | |
@LoganPip yes OT research and OT researchers are limited compared to other AHPs. Not sure why? #OTalk | |
@LynneGoodacre Sometimes applicants don’t get the support from their Trust to complete the form, it’s not just about academics and people tend to forget this. You need support from your manager, Trust R&D and finance as well #OTalk https://t.co/pU5NFc1ON2 | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] @pixiegirle @OTalk_ @LoganPip And some areas qualitative research can generate more meaningful data than quantitative. #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre We have started a Facebook group for OTs doing doctorates and so far over 30 role models have signed up and we also now have a lot of post docs. So we have role models but maybe they aren’t visible enough? #Otalk https://t.co/alqY8WztsX | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Sometimes applicants don’t get the support from their Trust to complete the form, it’s not just about academics and peop… |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LoganPip In US, I know post doc salary are puny compare to clinical job. #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre Yes agree totally re resilience. But then people are applying for several hundreds of thousands of pounds #OTalk https://t.co/YgYfBCOycT | |
@LoganPip Niina is one of the NIHR advocates I mentioned to try and help OTs get involved. #OTalk I think the undergraduate training contains quite a bit of research now, but for some reason OTs seem less able to say they want to do a PhD than the PT's | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Leading into our final question: How can @LoganPip and other professors encourage occupational therapists to believe in themselves like the other AHPs and come forward to apply for NIHR funding & fellowship #OTalk Research |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LoganPip And I think getting a foot in the door in academia sometimes can be a daunting first step. #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] @LoganPip [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] In US case, we will also need massive loan forgiveness! #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Yes agree totally re resilience. But then people are applying for several hundreds of thousands of pounds #OTalk https:/… |
@LynneGoodacre I would say all research is important, qual is no more important than quant or mixed methods surely? We need to feel more confident in using quant and RCTs #OTalk https://t.co/9fBsnfoxmH | |
@LoganPip Most Unis will be offering intern schemes, we had three advertised at Notts Uni and only 8 people applied. Not sure if any were OT's. #OTalk | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LynneGoodacre: I would say all research is important, qual is no more important than quant or mixed methods surely? We need to feel mor… |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @LynneGoodacre I probably belong to a rare breed who does! But I am stuck in where I am in a sense and it’s hard to move from a steady decent paycheck and a job that fits my professional needs! #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: Most Unis will be offering intern schemes, we had three advertised at Notts Uni and only 8 people applied. Not sure if any w… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: Niina is one of the NIHR advocates I mentioned to try and help OTs get involved. #OTalk I think the undergraduate training co… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: yes OT research and OT researchers are limited compared to other AHPs. Not sure why? #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] I think I live in the wrong country practicing OT... lol! #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: yes, How can I as the lead NIHR advocate and a Prof help OTs to believe in themselves and come forward for funding like the o… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: internships are perfect, some are for pre masters and some pre doctorate and there even some for post docs, usually about 40… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: The NIHR have an advocates page with OTs in different places who can help with the forms. #OTalk and yes the Research Design… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: We get a lot of physios and dieticians applying for the intern and doctoral awards, I wonder why not OTs? #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: why do we think that far more physio's compared to OTs apply for these NIHR awards. #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: The applications are now two stages for the doctorate, so not as bad.... but you will need help. #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] But in all seriousness... maybe we should partner up with statistics/mathematics departments in our unis? #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: The new PCAF scheme from the NIHR, closing date in April is a good way to get started before the PhD. #OTalk |
@LynneGoodacre There are Trusts that support AHP research as well [REDACTED USER] #otalk ask @preston_jenny https://t.co/RxGAUpwx5u | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @ozcboss @LynneGoodacre Funny you say that... because that is essentially the same with applications to TED/TEDx talks... on a related note. #otalk |
@LynneGoodacre This is important to remember if you’re thinking of applying. Peeps often put off by thinking 100s will app”y and I don’t stand a chance. You do! #otalk https://t.co/NFWZaMQaGV | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] Or something like- we should get interns from these departments... and have them teach us research methods along the way and we will just teach them about what we do in OT. Think of it like a cultural exchange program. 😛 #otalk |
@LoganPip yes RCOT did some writing days, but maybe we need more online help as people fill in the forms. getting examples always helps. #OTalk people do share their forms when asked | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: This is important to remember if you’re thinking of applying. Peeps often put off by thinking 100s will app”y and I don’… |
@LoganPip yes apply, we never get as many applications as you would expect, but get help, #OTalk | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] But we can use part of the funding to create internships for their students. That can be a win-win. #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] I think if you are a research OT practitioner, maybe you should look at my conference travel blueprint annually and then tinker it a bit... lol! #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] And with me... the contentment of being a therapist and what I already have on my massive plate in OT are what stops me. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Last 5 minutes already, how time flies. Any last minute insights before we sign off #OTalk @LoganPip |
@LynneGoodacre I have a videoconference account if you want to organise a one off virtual meet up I'd be happy to host it for free #OTAlk https://t.co/adBvYg82sc | |
@LoganPip Closing date for doctoral awards is in April, would love to see a few OT applications sent in. #OTalk | |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: I have a videoconference account if you want to organise a one off virtual meet up I'd be happy to host it for free #OTA… |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ @LoganPip Since it is a US based advice... I will say if you are interested in research as a student, know the opportunities around you in your country and get mentors. #otalk |
@LoganPip Thank you for mine as well. #OTalk | |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] [REDACTED USER] I do settle in my setting pretty quickly... probably after 6 months. I got a rapid learning curve early by locumming. Now I just have to deal with nuances in the setting occasionally as well as adjustments to change of workplaces. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ So there we have it, another great #OTalk Research, learning and sharing together. Enormous thanks to @LoganPip, you survived!! Look forward to welcoming you back for another chat. Thanks everyone for your contributions tonight. |
![]() | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: There are Trusts that support AHP research as well [REDACTED USER] #otalk ask @preston_jenny https://t.co/RxGAUpwx5u |
![]() | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LoganPip: Closing date for doctoral awards is in April, would love to see a few OT applications sent in. #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LoganPip: yes apply, we never get as many applications as you would expect, but get help, #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LoganPip: yes RCOT did some writing days, but maybe we need more online help as people fill in the forms. getting examples always helps… |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: Closing date for doctoral awards is in April, would love to see a few OT applications sent in. #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: yes apply, we never get as many applications as you would expect, but get help, #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LoganPip: yes RCOT did some writing days, but maybe we need more online help as people fill in the forms. getting examples always helps… |
![]() | Nancy.Clark @NancyCCCU RT @LynneGoodacre: Compared to other AHPs OTs are the least likely to apply for NIHR funding. Why do you think this is? Join us to explore… |
