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FOX Rehabilitation @FOXRehab
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OTalk @OTalk_
Evening all welcome to tonight’s #OTalk hosted @dianecox61 & @alisonlaverfaw with @OT_rach here for support on the @OTalk_ account. I’ll just do a few house keeping tweets before we get started. Say hello, if your here! https://t.co/9cquG0B4cD
OTalk @OTalk_
Don't forget to include #OTalk in all your responses, there are a lot of questions tonight I may miss retweeting some of the tweets without the # https://t.co/0iShruFKj1
Gemma P @gemOT18
@OTalk_ Haven’t joined in for ages but will try to keep up #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
If your joining in tonight’s #OTalk Just a little reminder about the 'House Rules' https://t.co/k63DBdOASM
OTalk @OTalk_
If you get lost or need a helping had just tweet me, that’s what I’m here for #OTalk https://t.co/72knzgaoq2
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw @OT_rach Hello 👋 #Otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Evening all welcome to tonight’s #OTalk hosted @dianecox61 & @alisonlaverfaw with @OT_rach here for support on the @OTalk_ acco…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Welcome everyone to this #OTalk Question 1. What standardised assessments do your use – why do you choose to use this / these assessments? @OTalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw @OT_rach #otalk howdy everyone. 👋🏾
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: 5 min warning before tonight’s #otalk starts, get your laptops, phones, or whatever you use to join in ready!! https://t.co/U0…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: Evening all welcome to tonight’s #OTalk hosted @dianecox61 & @alisonlaverfaw with @OT_rach here for support on the @OTalk_ acco…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
First Q up #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: Don't forget to include #OTalk in all your responses, there are a lot of questions tonight I may miss retweeting some of the tw…
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 1 #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk I work as a social care occupational therapist in adult care services. I don’t use standardised assessments.
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Great to have you involved tonight @gemOT18 looking forward to hearing your views
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@gemOT18 @OTalk_ Me neither! Back because I'm doing return to practice updating! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: If you get lost or need a helping had just tweet me, that’s what I’m here for #OTalk https://t.co/72knzgaoq2
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw @OT_rach #otalk hello
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Hello @sherlynmelody
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
What area of practice do you plan to work in? #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I work in forensic mental health health. I use MOHO assessments, Adult sensory history, AMPS and mostly recently learned to use Claudia Allen. Hoping to go on ESI training soon. #otalk
Sazzle Willow @LadySarahW1
Looking forward to the #OTalk tonight @OTalk_
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Q1 Great to have to here tonight #OTalk hoping we can look at the assessments you could use @alisonlaverfaw
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Current return to practice placement is in inpatient acute mental health - using MOHOST among less structured stuff. #OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
RT @OTalk_: First up is the announcement of our #RCOT2019 meet up! Are you arriving in Birmingham on the Sunday evening? Why not join the #…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I use MOHO including MOHOST and OSA the chosen model for our trust I don’t use with every pt just where it’s clinically indicated #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @SarahInnes16: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWon
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I've only come across anything based in OT models being used in mental health, never physical - is this a general thing? #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw @OT_rach Hello, made it after too long an absence! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Have you used standardized assessments in other areas of practice? Have you ever considered AUSTOMs or COPM in adult care?
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
I work in Traumatic Brain Injury use a variety of outcome measures #Otalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk do these require training and can they only be used in mental health settings?
Sazzle Willow @LadySarahW1
@OTalk_ #OTalk we use MoHO based assessments mostly the MoHost
Minh Tran @otramblings
#OTalk hi all! Hope you are well! Bae says hello, and is being very helpful in the garden :) 🐰 https://t.co/gzMEx3PN2Y
Rachel Booth @OT_rach
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork With my trust we use #MOHOST #Allens #VDTmoca any others but these are the main ones used in acute and rehab services I manage #OTalk
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #OTalk Q1. In adult intellectual disability team we use a variety of evidence based Assessments incl AMPS, MOHOST, REIS, FIM&FAM, SENSORY PROFILE, DMAT, OSA, OCAIRS, & will be using MOHOexplor very soon. We have a v small number of inhouse tools to Ax money, time, rd skills
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@rebelraising @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk good question, I’m thinking the same!
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk many responding to Q1 MOHOST, AMPS, OSA, any other? @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk less structured things like..?
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
What do you find useful about these assessments? #OTalk @OTalk when did you do your Assessment of Motor Process Skills training? did your employer pay for you to train?
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk I haven't been successful at job interviews yet since graduating, but some placements I was on didn't use standardised assessment, some did a d one used adapted ones
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Welcome #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@otramblings O he is lovely #therapyrabbit #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@sherlynmelody @rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I had a placement at uni in older adult physical which used MOHOST too but not everyone in the service liked it #otalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@alisonlaverfaw Mental health, preferably adults - I've worked in non-specific roles in dementia for most of the time since I graduated, but "drifted" from OT. Now I want to refocus, get my registration and get on! #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@caralawrence #otalk what sort of things are you using? Could they be applied in the community do you think?
Minh Tran @otramblings
I’m currently working in Neurosurgery and we use the Westmead PTA. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk @OTalk no I have known COPM used in a physical health setting for example
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk I would love to be trained in AMPS but lack of easy access funding #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @caralawrence: I work in Traumatic Brain Injury use a variety of outcome measures #Otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: What do you find useful about these assessments? #OTalk @OTalk when did you do your Assessment of Motor Process Skills…
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@otramblings Awww bae, is adorable. I’d love a rabbit or anything furry for that matter #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I only use modified Barthel index and functional reach test at my setting. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I find the same that not everyone is always on board saying it’s time consuming not seeing the bigger picture of outcomes for pt and OT impact #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
So the measures we do in assessment are MPAI-4, Glasgow outcome scale, ebiq client relative, Carter strain, HADs and eq5d. We use a variety of others where appropriate #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk @OTalk no I have known COPM used in a physical health setting for example https://t.co/oTT93s9Rgd
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Functional assessments, with a cognitive/ mental/ motor framework for recording. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I think trainings for such (or SIPT back in the day) are expensive. You need to be a dedicated therapist to go for such trainings. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk not at all they can both be used in a wide range of settings, for people of different ages and with a wide range of diagnoses. COPM used in both mental and physical health settings, AUSTOMs probably more in physical health settings - both could be used in the community
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk great responses to Q1 we are moving on to Q2 @alisonlaverfaw MOHOST, COPM, AMPS, HADs, Barthel, AUSTOMS, ......
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@sherlynmelody I have just tweeted what I use! I am in the community for TBI. Some of the measures are brain injury related #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk Question 2. How often do you use standardised assessments in practice? @OTalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk not at all they can both be used in a wide range of settings, for people of different ages and with a wide range…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Question 2. How often do you use standardised assessments in practice? @OTalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork We use the Wheelchair Outcomes Assessment Tool in one of our services https://t.co/Tfr4hsfPOY - is person centred and consistent to administer and use by different OTs #OTalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
I work in oncology and use the Fatigue Impact Scale, Clinical Frailty Scale and Aus-TOMs. They are sensitive to the issues I observe in my assessments #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk And knowing that it’s the right assessment for your clinical area without trying it first. In the (long) past people have been trained and not used this making it difficult to make a positive argument for finding now #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @jenny_welford: I work in oncology and use the Fatigue Impact Scale, Clinical Frailty Scale and Aus-TOMs. They are sensitive to the issu…
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 2 #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #OTalk we currently only have 1 trained therapist using Vdtmoca. All just started using the adult sensory history too. A couple of us have trained to use the sensory matrix as part of sensory intellegence
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @rebelraising: @alisonlaverfaw Mental health, preferably adults - I've worked in non-specific roles in dementia for most of the time sin…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @SarahInnes16: @sherlynmelody @rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @t
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork When working alongside community (social care) OTs, their roles required assessments that were generalist, same as social workers. Standardised but not OT focussed. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @dianecox61: Welcome #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/hkDlWntGGv
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@sherlynmelody @rebelraising @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork We do use the CMOP but not consistently! #Otalk I know in the past MOHO has been used! #otalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@alisonlaverfaw #otalk never heard of the AUSTOMs.
Matt Birrell OT @BirrellOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yes, I have worked in an intermediate care setting where the assessment was not stardardised but was based on CMOP-E and then we used COPM to measure outcomes 👍🏼 #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Which ones did you see adapted and what adaptations did they make? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork At evaluation and roughly every month... if patient is appropriate to show potential for improvement. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gemOT18: @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk And knowing that it’s the right assessment for your clinical area without trying it first.…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@caralawrence #otalk I’ll find your tweet. It’s moving pretty quickly 😬
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yes- finding a good match is key. You need the right type of setting and patients. #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@sherlynmelody Haa haa nature of #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
So how long a test administration makes a standardized test too time consuming do you think? What if they take approximately 30 Minutes?
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@uk_james @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk that sounds interesting 👍🏾 wheelchair outcome 😉
Rachel Booth @OT_rach
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I used some sort of standardbred assessment with every assessment I carry out. With acute services I sometimes don’t get to repeat these to use as an outcome measure. But in rehab, we have alittle more time. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BillWongOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergoste
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yes- finding a good match is key. You need the right type of setting and patients. #otalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork It’s free via the link - versions for adults and children. I think it can be used for wider than Wheelchair Services, have taken it and used for Technology Enabled Care interventions, trialling at the moment. The domains are wide and I think equally applicable #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Or for my case- I don’t do the Allen Cognitive Level Screen because I have praxis issues and I don’t feel confident in using it with patients. #otalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Routinely in practice. We use certain assessments for all patients at baseline and review and others as clinically appropriate. Our service has a standard expected for every patient which is audited. I guess this means everyone uses them where they see value or not. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk and I know we are supposed to stay away from jargon as we give service users a copy of the assessment. So they have to be service user friendly.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork And if the assessments are time consuming, that can be discouraging for therapists who work in settings where productivity is king. #otalk
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@alisonlaverfaw #otalk used AMPS in paediatric setting, MOCA in older people to look at cognition, MOHOST in mental health setting and adapted OCAIRS, but could never find out how it was adapted
Sazzle Willow @LadySarahW1
#OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@caralawrence #otalk right 🤦🏾‍♀️
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @rebelraising: @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjots
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk Q2 A2, most of the work we do involves standardised assessments. We value being clear about clinical rational and demonstrating how we applied evidence base when coming to our conclusion for treatment and intervention. Its not uncommon to be asked to complete court reports
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LesleyHawkins5: @alisonlaverfaw #otalk used AMPS in paediatric setting, MOCA in older people to look at cognition, MOHOST in mental hea…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk so here’s Question 3. If you are using standardized assessments are these occasionally used or do you use standardised assessments routinely/regularly in your practice? Why or why not? @OTalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@sherlynmelody It’s fun I promise #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw I think it’s more that OT’s don’t feel confident to use the assessment tools and it takes time to learn how to use them. With the right time and practice I agree that 30mins is perfect 👍 I try to encourage time and space for OTs to learn this #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@sherlynmelody @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Is there a distinction to be drawn between the Ax and the recording of it? I am a HUGE fan of using normal human language when writing about patients/ clients, generally! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @rebelraising: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWon
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
I find the Fatigue Impact Scale encourages men in particular to recognise that fatigue impacts upon their emotional wellbeing. They can see the score in front of them and this triggers discussion that can be difficult for them to initiate #oncology #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#otalk good point Bill Confidence often comes when you are more familar with the assessment @alisonlaverfaw
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
#otalk #answer2 I’m not sure if there is a place in the community for standardised assessments, to an extent. I’ve had limited exposure to assessments. What are other adult care services OT’s using? Where applicable??
Alex Scott @alexxjscott
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Rarely. I work in the inpatient setting (front door A&E) so not always appropriate or necessary. On my community placement I used COPM which I found SO helpful!#OTalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #OTalk yes this is a problem especially when you work in an integrated team with one assessment. A SW won’t use an OT Ax. However we have shoehorned Bartel in(I know it’s old, but it works) as an outcome measure. Social care is moving to a more conversation type assessment.
James Lampert @uk_james
@sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork takes the approach of person identifying top 5 outcomes, creating 5 related goals and then followed up after provision 3-6 months later to see if difference was made. Used as part of the initial assessment conversion, strength based approach #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergostep
Matt Birrell OT @BirrellOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Currently working in social services - not at all. Our assessments are very much guided by the Care Act, Disabled Facilities Grants and Moving & Handling needs.#OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @gemOT18 Sometimes insurances plays a role, sometimes the patients play a role, too. For example, if a patient is bed ridden and is totally dependent, no point of doing a modified barthel on him/her. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergostep
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Current placement: MOHOST on initial Ax, and then functional Ax reporting for each significant session, and AMPS where indicated for teasing out specific issues. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk so was this a decision amongst a team of OTs in the Trust? Was it because of the evidence base for these assessments? https://t.co/i0G5Q0qeYm
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 3 #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OT_rach: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Question 3 #OTalk https://t.co/E8IrOJFA45
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @jenny_welford: I find the Fatigue Impact Scale encourages men in particular to recognise that fatigue impacts upon their emotional wel…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turn
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @rebelraising: @sherlynmelody @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjots
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk great to hear that you have so many potential assessments to choose from, how do you decide which is pertinent for a specific client in your setting?
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork OSA #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @dianecox61: #OTalk many responding to Q1 MOHOST, AMPS, OSA, any other? @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alexxjscott: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergost
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Question 2 #otalk https://t.co/S0QtIplN5C
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @ClaireBellNYPOT: @rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Question 3 #OTalk https://t.co/E8IrOJFA45
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork And it’s Cara who has met you at various places hello! #otalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 Routinely now as current service supports this. A past service I worked in only funded certain assessments #otalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
Q3. We use the westmead for all TBI patients. It is part of their pathway #otalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
One thing that bugs me (sorry) is when services tweak standardised assessment tools. This stops them from being standardised! Either use them, being aware of their weaknesses or don't. The perfect tool doesn't exist #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk @OTalk these are fantastic responses. Hard to keep up - I look forward to reading the transcript. I think it’s time to move onto the next question ....
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw That’s exactly what it was. Chosen by OTs within the trust across a range of MH settings (adult, older people, forensic, inpatient and community). chosen because of its evidence based research #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw One thing I find in my setting is- whether standardized assessments are used at all are dependent on- staffing, patients, and types of insurance. Staffing is one because sometimes there may not be consistent therapist at the building. Hence, they may not be aware. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk Question 4. Did you go on any training to learn to administer any of the standardised assessment you use – what test was the training for and what did the training comprise? @OTalk @_ROTOS_@dianecox61
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk @OTalk these are fantastic responses. Hard to keep up - I look forward to reading the transcript. I think it’s t…
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@ClaireBellNYPOT @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I remember on a student placement doing a mapping of social care standard Ax onto CMOP as a presentation - huge representation of physical envt, very little of occupation, values and motivation. #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Question 4. Did you go on any training to learn to administer any of the standardised assessment you use – what…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jenny_welford: One thing that bugs me (sorry) is when services tweak standardised assessment tools. This stops them from being standard…
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 4 #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s all so quick tonight! 😳 Sign of a great and relevant topic though #OTalk
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #otalk Q3 A3 ours are routinely used and built into our service pathways for each element of work we might do with our clients so that each clinician is clear about what tool to and when. There is obviously some flexibily depending on the individual needs of each client
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@ClaireBellNYPOT @rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk im thinking I could apply bits of standardised assessments to improve clinical reasoning, evidence based practice as well as making it more client centred and then sharing the outcomes with the service user and documenting it in my assessment. If I have the time 🤞🏾
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork In my social care setting currently we're using MOTOM as outcome measure as well as moca for cognitive assessments. #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @BillWongOT @gemOT18 @OTalk_ where WATCH tool used in Hull Wheelchair Service, everyone offered the opportunity to engage, but not everyone does, so dependent on the client #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw And insurance plays a role too because I know the assessments I do are only required for Medicare part A patients. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk Shhhh I don’t think I have always I have read the manual and discussed in supervision. Many don’t require! #otalk
carol duff @carolfish32
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork In our trust we try to have a tool kit of MOHO assessments and then more specific assessments such as Adult sensory history, Allen’s cognitive screen to guide specific work #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk Only for ones which held a specific license like AMPS 5 day course which had calibration requirements. Other assessments have been in-house training or own CPD #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #otalk Q3 A3 ours are routinely us…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @SarahInnes16: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 Routinely now as current servic…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Hey 👋 @caralawrence we always bump into each other! #joyofOT #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @alisonlaverfaw @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @BillWongOT @gemOT18 @OTalk_ where WATCH tool used in Hull Wheelchair Ser…
Marie Baistow @Mrsbaistow
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Welcome everyone to this #OTalk Question 1. What standardised assessments do your use – why do you choose to use this /…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Question 4 #otalk https://t.co/0AHVjFTfZ3
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw And patients play a role because sometimes doing consistent assessments on a patient that has little or no potential to improve on the assessments can end up biting me in the end. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @gemOT18: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s all so quick tonight! 😳 Sign of a great and relevant topic though #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@uk_james @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk 3-6months oh that’s a long time for me to hold a case 😬 luckily for me im not a wheelchair prescriber. I think I’d sink with work 🤦🏾‍♀️
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk @OTalk AUSTOMs can be used after doing a range of other assessments to set a baseline once the treatment goals have been agreed. It’s therapist rated, has 12 scales and you use those scales that are relevant. The website is here: https://t.co/qqHJZ8SkDB
OTalk @OTalk_
Don’t forget the hashtag #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk @OTalk AUSTOMs can be used after doing a range of other assessments to set a baseline once the treatment goals h…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @ciderwithsophie: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @er
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk #otalk Q4 A4 all staff are trained in AMPs some trained in MOHOST, 1trained in vdtmoca, some trained in sensory matrix but the variety of skill and knowkedge in the team is cascaded throughout the team so that all clinicians feel confident is using the tools
OTalk @OTalk_
Remember there is only 1 T in the Hashtag #OTalk You pronounce it O Talk. Not OT Talk!!!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @sherlynmelody: @ClaireBellNYPOT @rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #otalk Q3 A3 ours are routinely us…
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk Q4: We did a video conf with the researchers / developers at Bangor Uni then rolled out via in-house training programme for https://t.co/Tfr4hsfPOY #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Don’t forget the hashtag!!!! #OTalk https://t.co/qp17jL2vdP
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Not familiar with that one? Who developed it and where can you get it from? Is it free to use or has a cost? @OTalk #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@OTalk_ #otalk that could be a plan 🤔 never used any assessments.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
@sherlynmelody @ClaireBellNYPOT @rebelraising @gemOT18 @SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork If you only take parts of a standardised assessment its no longer standardised, and difficult to repeat though #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk We went over the COPM at uni but so far I’ve not seen any used on my 2 placements #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Remember there is only 1 T in the Hashtag #OTalk You pronounce it O Talk. Not OT Talk!!!
Matt Birrell OT @BirrellOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk The only one I have received training for is AMPS. 5 days of quite intensive training and needed to pass calibration afterwards. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
This is a very challenging problem when employers pay for assessment training and then the assessment isn’t used. Why do you think this happens? @OTalk #OTalk
Jamie Cardell @OTJme
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork In my setting I often use a combination of assessments consisting of non- standardised and standardised. A combination of both helps to build a better picture :) #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork We’ve put an administrative review process in place so Therapist doesn’t need to hold the case open. Person asked to rescore 5 questions. If needs not met then case reopened for review #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
RT @OTalk_: Remember there is only 1 T in the Hashtag #OTalk You pronounce it O Talk. Not OT Talk!!!
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #OTalk Hello all. I work with adults with LD. I use AMPS or MOHOST.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk
Sarah-Jane @0909cavendish
#OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Tiny world #otalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@ciderwithsophie @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk gosh, it’s the first I’m hearing about some of these assessments. I need to get me a student!! So they can teach me a thing or two. Feeling obsolete 🤦🏾‍♀️
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@alisonlaverfaw Because they dont fit most of the time #OTALK
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s new. All on the link, developed by Bangor Uni in association with NHS England. Free to use. #OTalk
carol duff @carolfish32
@dianecox61 I get carried away with the comment and forget #OTalk thanks@dianecox61
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
Q4. Yes I attended a PTA training run by the Consultant Neuropsychologist. We also carry out NAB (Neuro-behavioural battery), which also requires training for competency. I am not trained to do this one yet but maybe one day soon! #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
When I was a Manager in the NHS I made a business case and we got funding to have the OTs in the Memory Clinic all trained on the AMPS @OTalk #OTalk doing a detailed Test Critique of the evidence base of an assessment can help support a business case.
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergoste
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Depends when I need to! Helpful at start and finish! But finish always seems hard to do #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @uk_james: @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk I did it on my own... only went to a workshop on how functional reach test is supposed to work at a conference. #otalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@sherlynmelody #OTalk social care use a strength based assessment approach to empower the person this is moving towards conversational type practice. They know themselves best. The important part I feel is to show the worth of #OT and more so the progress to the person in an outcome measure.
OTalk @OTalk_
Oh dear you don’t want to get on @OT_rach naughty step!!! #otalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Oh yeah students and newly qualified staff are great for giving you new insights! #OTalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #OTalk When assessing LD, psychology do WAIS and I always do AMPS.
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk It's frustrating as a student, isn't it? I was really lucky to have a MOHOSTy first placement, but it's so hard to consolidate knowledge when it's all informal and in the heads of the practitioners! #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: When I was a Manager in the NHS I made a business case and we got funding to have the OTs in the Memory Clinic all trai…
Jamie Cardell @OTJme
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 Routinely. I think we’re extremely fortunate to be able to use them. standardised assessments allow me to gain a baseline of a service user’s abilities. From these assessments I’m then able to ensure my interventions and goals are person centred. #otalk
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Don’t forget the hashtag!!!! #OTalk https://t.co/qp17jL2vdP
OTalk @OTalk_
We are halfway through the hour! #OTalk https://t.co/POrJTXhp3j
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk In the past my experience is that it hasn’t been prioritised for staff to have the time to actually apply it in practice. So need encouragement to not just send people on training but to commit to using it in practice #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTJme: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 Routinely. I think we’re extremely for…
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Question 4 #otalk https://t.co/0AHVjFTfZ3
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
Q4 #otalk I’ve never had any training for the administering of standardised assessments. But it would be good too, I think? Maybe 🤷🏾‍♀️
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk My concern about AMPs is it’s expensive and you can have such through put of staff! How did you manage this? #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@gemOT18 @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Employer paid as service values this as gold standard for evaluation of motor and process skills. Really helps me with improved activity analysis skills and goal setting in a more specific way. Great for evidencing intervention #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Oh my 30 mins left #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @uk_james: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Q4: We did a video conf with the researchers / developers at Bangor Uni then rolled out via in-house t…
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
Do you guys have autonomy over the standardised assessment tools you use or does your service have to OK it first? #OTalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #OTalk When doing skills ax I use AMPS. When observing task not in AMPS manual I use MOHOST. Still use AMPS language in other reports.
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
This is why I think Face validity studies where we ask people what is is like to do an assessment is so important. Can our service users understand what the assessment is for? Is it relevant to them? #OTalk here is an example of a Face validity study https://t.co/COhWz6ftfy
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Definitely. Currently living vicariously through my peers’ experiences with standardised assessments. Would help to have practice using them though. With clients or just practice. Either way. #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@gemOT18 @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I’m grateful to have had employer support. Amps should be part of OT Training #otalk
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
#otalk im really keen to hear from people using standarised ADL assessments (outside of AMPS). What do people use? Also keen to hear if anyone uses any std Axs for environmental issues when challenging behaviour is the focus? I know a team developing the SHEA but any others?
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk No formal training here. Purely in house/informal training or self-taught via manuals etc prior to administering any standardised measures in practice #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@Georgia_Fair @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 Do you find they compliment each other #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@sherlynmelody When I was in OT school, assessments were introduced. I got to see some in action during placements (for pediatrics ones) #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: This is why I think Face validity studies where we ask people what is is like to do an assessment is so important. Can…
James Lampert @uk_james
@dianecox61 Just just thinking “where did the last half hour go?!” #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@jenny_welford When I was working in a non-specific role (as a dementia link worker) we qualified OTs were told not to use OT standardised Ax! So while we had lots of autonomy generally, there were frustrating boundaries. #OTalk #roleemerging
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk #otalk sometimes it’s just wrong timing. I did a lot of training when I 1st started but I could not apply it as I was not in the position to use it. The opportunity is not there/your allocations may not require the training. It’s like 1st aid training never used it!!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@SarahInnes16 @gemOT18 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I think if my nursing home ever can take MOT or entry level OTD students in the US (they will be there for 12 weeks), I will definitely ask them to do in-service on what other assessments can be used. #otalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Hopefully you'll get a placement where you get to see it all in action later on! (Seems like adult mental health is the place to find 'em all....) #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
MOCA seems popular these days and it is one my @YSJOT students report seeing on placement. We had a few sessions on critically appraising assessments in a module last week and MOCA was one they appraised. Here is the website for anyone interested: https://t.co/MYGQDaME6q
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #OTalk WAIS is culturally specific. AMPS adds functional evidence. Psychology & OT have agreed on outcomes.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @rebelraising: @jenny_welford When I was working in a non-specific role (as a dementia link worker) we qualified OTs were told not to us…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @jenny_welford: Do you guys have autonomy over the standardised assessment tools you use or does your service have to OK it first? #OTalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@rebelraising That's interesting. I'm always curious to know! Are you still in dementia? #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@uk_james @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork #otalk 👍🏾 that sounds good!
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @OTJme: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @N
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @Georgia_Fair: @caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #OTalk WAIS is cu…
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@spicer_booth @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Because i think it’s such a valuable assessment tool to which enhances ability to improve and measure changes patients function #Otalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@alisonlaverfaw #OTalk driven by the wider service direction in social care and in integrated teams also sadly the computer system. I am working on it though, l would like to use OT standardised Ax or outcome measures in social care before I retire. COPM or Mayers I feel fits well. @cjk_chris
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork In clinical practice I have used the BeeryVMI, Mov ABC, MVPT, and Bruininks regularly along with either the SPM or the Sensory profile. The tool I choose depends on patient concerns. #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@rebelraising @jenny_welford I never get why you can’t use profession specific outcomes if appropriate that’s why it’s generic the skills can be used so why not be allowed to use the skills you have #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LelanieBrewer: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWo
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@jenny_welford No, I'm currently doing return to practice placements in adult MH. (And working-for-pay in a sort-of-unrelated field) #OTalk
Jamie Cardell @OTJme
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk #OTalk I participated in a few conferences and workshops to help build my confidence when using these assessments. I also read a variety of articles to find out how reliable these assessments are in practice and also to build on my knowledge. I couldn’t be without S.assessments
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LelanieBrewer: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWo
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk we are about to discuss a question that has been on returning loop in my head for most of my career: Why aren’t…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk Practice is so important. We have developed two training role plays for the Structured Observational Test of Function #SOTOF, one for administering the test with someone with a stroke and the other for someone with dementia.
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @alisonlaverfaw: This is why I think Face validity studies where we ask people what is is like to do an assessment is so important. Can…
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@alisonlaverfaw @YSJOT #otalk we also looked at MOCA in an optional module I took at uni
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@alisonlaverfaw @YSJOT As an MDT, we use the MOCA routinely in practice; both in Memory Clinic and more broadly in CMHT (older adults) #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Practice is so important. We have developed two training role plays for the Structured Observational Test of Fun…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@jenny_welford @rebelraising We can use other assessments depending if we’ve had training but as MOHO was chosen as trust model that is usually the one to go for. I also use PAL ax in dementia but not sure it’s standardised? I need to check #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@caralawrence @jenny_welford Honestly, I think it's partly because our non-OT-background boss didn't know how to manage us while we used them, but also partly about trying to create a coherent professional identity for link workers. #OTalk
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yep :) got my fingers crossed 🤞🏻 I’ve heard a fair bit about the MOHOST from peers who’ve been on MH placements. Would like to have an idea about assessments first, before using them with clients. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk several people mentioned using modifications of tests which feeds into Question 5. Do you make modifications to standardised assessments? If yes, is this to the instructions, to the materials, you use a portion of the assessment, or administer it but don’t use the scoring
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @Lizzie_OT: @alisonlaverfaw @YSJOT As an MDT, we use the MOCA routinely in practice; both in Memory Clinic and more broadly in CMHT (old…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk several people mentioned using modifications of tests which feeds into Question 5. Do you make modifications to…
Edward Duncan @easduncan
#OTalk just joining. Excuse self cite, but think this is relevant. Complex and multi level reasons that staff don’t use standardised assessments https://t.co/FyodM1SpMU
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I am also trained in the Sensory Integration and Praxis tests and have used this more in the private setting. Costs and time is a big consideration when choosing assessments along client concerns/needs #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@ClaireBellNYPOT @alisonlaverfaw @cjk_chris I used to use COPM years ago, routinely when I worked in NZ community services. Nice and simple. Think we used it for a while too at turn of the century at @Kent_cc for a while #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LelanieBrewer: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWo
Matt Birrell OT @BirrellOT
@ClaireBellNYPOT @alisonlaverfaw @cjk_chris I can echo this. And sadly culture too.... because “thats not how we do things here”. Its difficult to make change in a stubborn resistant environment. #OTalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk #OTalk Attending training for AMPS & ESI. Regularly use AMPS, have never used ESI. Perhaps because I work closely with SLT.
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@rebelraising @jenny_welford There is some logic there! And definitely feel we should just do things for the sake of it just to say I am an OT but where appropriate it makes sense #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw Yes I used #SOTOF a while ago but as it took me time I haven’t used it again... I pledge to use it and practice until I’m confident in it 👍#OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 5 #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Welcome @SuzyorkOT #OTalk fast paced tonight!
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork I work in community paeds, we use a range of different standardised assessments including Movement ABC-2, Beery VMI, Sensory Processing Measure, and non-standardised clinical obs #OTalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yes this is such a problem nowadays, personally I feel like the assessment became more of a hindrance because of specific validity conditions needed. #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
RT @easduncan: #OTalk just joining. Excuse self cite, but think this is relevant. Complex and multi level reasons that staff don’t use stan…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BirrellOT: @ClaireBellNYPOT @alisonlaverfaw @cjk_chris I can echo this. And sadly culture too.... because “thats not how we do things h…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
It is helpful when a test manual provides information on how to report and interpret scores not just record or calculate scores. We also need to be able to explain what the results are for different audiences: the client, a family carer, our MDT colleagues, to a GP #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw I think only modification I will make is if I have to translate what I want patients to do in Chinese. #otalk
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#OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Question 5 #OTalk https://t.co/MprC24nlCS
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Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @mollharrisOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turner @BillWon
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@Georgia_Fair #otalk. Id be interested to hear aboit how you and psychology have agreed on how to implement this. AMPS is very time consuming so have been reluctant to adopt it as a joint diagnostic process in LD. Could i DM you?
SuzyorkOT @SuzyorkOT
Yikes then forgot my #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @gemOT18: @alisonlaverfaw I think it’s more that OT’s don’t feel confident to use the assessment tools and it takes time to learn how to…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: It is helpful when a test manual provides information on how to report and interpret scores not just record or calculat…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@jenny_welford @rebelraising Forgot to say about MOHO being on our notes system which is also why we use it. When will be the day that all hospitals & community & social care on one system?! I’m being naive I know! #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@ciderwithsophie @alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s the way of the world! People move in quickly and that’s is a worry with AMPs for me. #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
Way too long for any of my clients in LD
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
I used to ask to take assessments home and practiced on my flat mates when I was a novice OT and felt I needed lots of practice. #OTalk @OTalk students report practicing on their supervisor ‘ clinical educator or other students when on placement.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I used to ask to take assessments home and practiced on my flat mates when I was a novice OT and felt I needed lots of…
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
@alisonlaverfaw I’ve done all of the above. A lot of tests for children are standardised to be administered in English & I’ve worked in a school for deaf children and multicultural settings where I’ve needed to use interpreters #OTalk
Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark
So sorry to be missing this #Otalk (I'm taking a break from putting up a curtain rail at my daughter's flat). Just to say that I know several organisations that are beginning to look at their #moho data - just wish more was published. Can't wait to follow the chat. Sue x
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@caralawrence @rebelraising We can be #OTs without standardised tools. Controversial but oh so true! Our ability to have in depth conversations about function and to provide intervention based on those conversations = the most important thing always #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I used to ask to take assessments home and practiced on my flat mates when I was a novice OT and felt I needed lots of…
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk #OTalk Also use Spiral Adult Sensory History. No ASH training, read manual. Have completed other sensory training.
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @jenny_welford @rebelraising Isn’t that was Systmone was meant to be. How is it recorded on the system? Is there templates? #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @jenny_welford: @caralawrence @rebelraising We can be #OTs without standardised tools. Controversial but oh so true! Our ability to have…
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I think this is where universities need to be a bit more up to date with What's going on in settings & preparing students for this #OTalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@gemOT18 @rebelraising Oh God, I wish I knew!!! #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@alisonlaverfaw I'd never insist on standardised conditions if it distressed the patient - I've had an older man so upset by ACE-III feeling "like school" that he started shaking. Asked some qus informally, didn't score, got valuable info. #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw I like observational assessments like the VQ in mental health as it helps me to track changes in engagement. This can be done after the appointment taking maybe 10-15 mins. Took a while to get the hang of though #otalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
I also think client self rating is valuable #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
I find #COPM really useful in practice and as a research tool too. Lots of underpinning evidence base, client centered and I like that it considers importance and satisfaction - not just performance #OTalk here is the COPM website for those interested https://t.co/fYwgFnpe0V
Minh Tran @otramblings
Lol yes I did modify a Moca because I accidentally gave the bloody answer ie the abstract bike to train so I just did one on a Rose to a daisy. I sometimes replace the ‘count backwards from 100 by 7’with spell ‘WORLD’ backwards because maths isn’t their forte #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I find #COPM really useful in practice and as a research tool too. Lots of underpinning evidence base, client centered…
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@jenny_welford @caralawrence @rebelraising #otalk that’s true. I just think sometimes I want to feel like an OT and not a social worker 🤭
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk One of my supervisees asked me to go out on a visit with her when she was going to use a standardised assessment for the first time, building it into a conversational assessment. Good opportunity to refelect, for her to get feedback and I learnt too in a real envt #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk One of my supervisees asked me to go out on a visit with her when she was going to use a standardised…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @margaretOT360: I also think client self rating is valuable #otalk https://t.co/2OvgKct6wv
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @margaretOT360: I also think client self rating is valuable #otalk https://t.co/2OvgKct6wv
OTalk @OTalk_
SMSing forget that hashtag @margaretOT360 otherwise you end up on the naughty step!!! #otalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
#Otalk surely students would pick up the latest assessments during 1000 clinical practice?
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Just to add I’ve always supplemented ‘bottom up’ assessments with clinical observations either in the home or school environment to not lose focus on #occupation #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LelanieBrewer: @alisonlaverfaw I’ve done all of the above. A lot of tests for children are standardised to be administered in English &…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@caralawrence @jenny_welford @rebelraising We use RIO at the mo and can directly input MOHO ax there. I believe systmone does have templates u can add #OTalk
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@jenny_welford @BillWongOT @caralawrence @rebelraising I do agree with this! I also think we would struggle to show the value of OT without any standardised tools #otalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
RT @rebelraising: @alisonlaverfaw I'd never insist on standardised conditions if it distressed the patient - I've had an older man so upset…
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Hi otalkers, sorry for late arrival... using standardised assessments as intended is very important AND being able to explain what the results mean clearly to patient, family and other healthcare professionals. #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@jenny_welford @rebelraising I agree with this but I am not sure commissioners would always when deciding to fund services. Mixed method approach to practice we need some quantitive data and quantitative evidence when treating but that doesn’t always work #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
So we have heard some people don’t use standardized tests and about some challenges (funding, confidence, needing to practice) here is #OTalk Question 6. What are the barriers to implementing standardised assessments in practice? @OTalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: So we have heard some people don’t use standardized tests and about some challenges (funding, confidence, needing to pr…
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@ciderwithsophie @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk #otalk yes that’s true. I read about assessments at uni, never really applied any on placement. Then ended up working without any standardised Ax so it all disappears 😳
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw #otalk some Axs can take a significant amount of time to do and even longer to analyse afterwards. If the client cant tolerate the time to complete we may do several smaller sessions until we get everything we need. We dont have Ax to discharge timescale, so able to do this
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@jenny_welford @caralawrence As I try to rebuild my OT professional identity, I'm finding the structure of standardised Ax really useful for calibrating my own practice - being confident that I'm OTing well when I'm freestyling is a bit further on for me yet! #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
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OTalk @OTalk_
Question 6 #OTalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
I couldn’t agree more @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
#otalk 😱!
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @caralawrence: @jenny_welford @rebelraising I agree with this but I am not sure commissioners would always when deciding to fund service…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @MaryBirken: Hi otalkers, sorry for late arrival... using standardised assessments as intended is very important AND being able to expl…
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@rebelraising @alisonlaverfaw #otalk I used MOHOST in an acute MH placement, but informally, so knew the questions and write it up after else patient wouldn't have stayed engaged and also using activity as as distraction to be able to talk to patient so couldn't formally do MOHOST as well
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
@MaryBirken Great to have you with us @MaryBirken #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork In my setting in particular- staffing! When you don’t have consistent therapists coming in on a regular basis, follow through on using standardized assessments will suffer. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BillWongOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork In my setting in particular- staffing! When you don’t have consistent thera…
OTalk @OTalk_
@margaretOT360 😉☺️ #otalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk Time and access to resources. I am SIPT trained but don’t have access to a kit.
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@rebelraising @jenny_welford I also like standardised assessments when they agree with my hypothesis or show improvement! But we need to make sure we share with our patients. #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
#otalk love it, as they make the decisions and identify differences in their own priorities
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@margaretOT360 #otalk depends where they are though I guess?
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Very good point: use of standardised assessments consistently enables us to demonstrate role of OT #otalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@margaretOT360 I mean more, if lots of students are saying there is a lack of use of standardised assessments in settings, and they're getting anxious about this, shouldn't this be addressed more/unpicked/address expectations in uni? #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @Georgia_Fair: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk Time and access to resources. I am SIPT trained but do…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Doctors seem to favor the Barthel. I was facilitating a focus group on a Stroke in-patient ward last year and it was mentioned by their Consultant as being familiar so all the MDT understood what the scores mean #OTalk see https://t.co/3WJBodj2eG
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Doctors seem to favor the Barthel. I was facilitating a focus group on a Stroke in-patient ward last year and it was me…
James Lampert @uk_james
@caralawrence @jenny_welford @rebelraising I don’t think any commissioner would object to a service that collects outcomes information. Sometimes they don’t know that it can be done or how to do it... that’s where service providers need to take the lead. Good results reflect well on them and we show good jobs done #OTalk
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk Q6 A6 difficulties can be finding the right tool for the right person. It can be difficult finding something suitable for our ID population group. Weve had some moho versions adapted formally with moho but these are not without problems too!!
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@SarahInnes16 @jenny_welford @BillWongOT @caralawrence @rebelraising #otalk it’s almost like it reinforces what you were saying....right?
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @caralawrence @jenny_welford @rebelraising I don’t think any commissioner would object to a service that collects outcomes in…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork And on another note about staffing- rehab departments in my setting care more about having the treatment hours needs met. So doing standardized assessments on patients are more like secondary at best. #otalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@alisonlaverfaw Sometimes I use aspects of standardised ax in a non-standardised approach when suitable, e.g. activities in Movement ABC-2 to assess aiming and catching skills, though the child may have developmental delay which makes standardised scoring inappropriate #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@NottshcOt @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork I see that one too. That was what I mentioned earlier in the discussion. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Good to hear that. Do you use it as an initial assessment or also retest to evaluate outcomes #OTalk @OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@LesleyHawkins5 @alisonlaverfaw MOHOST is good, I think because you don't make it the patient/ client's business to engage with your Ax, they can just engage in the occupation and structuring the observation of it is your concern. Which - is the point of working with occupation, isn't it? #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @alisonlaverfaw One thing I find in my setting is- whether standardized assessments are used at all are dependent on- staff…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk Q6 A6 difficulties can be finding the right tool for the…
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork I agree here. Continuity of care applies to assessments and outcome measures just as much as knowing a client & consistency #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@uk_james @caralawrence @jenny_welford Ooh, I think a commissioner's idea of a job well done and an OT's might not always be the same! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Having trouble keeping up!!! 😀 #OTalk
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk it is refreshing however to see that RCOT have listed a huge amount of varied Axs available to OTs under their SNOMED guides @theRCOT Great to refer to to check if somethings out there that you may not have known about
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@uk_james @jenny_welford @rebelraising Definitely. And as the experts in the area we need to know what shows that outcome best! Instead of something which wouldn’t show the change. #otalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
#otalk why? Can be adapted the symbols or pictures for people who can’t read or cognitive issues
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Don't forget the #OTalk @LAURA59455619
Matt Birrell OT @BirrellOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork I think one of the issues in (social services) is that we see such a range of clients & conditions that it would be difficult to find an assessment to meet all needs. We could use several assessments, but it would then be difficult to compare outcomes across the service #OTalk
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@ciderwithsophie @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Oops #OTalk 👆🏻
Sara Rogers @SaraOT1980
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergosteph @Niall_Turner @BillWongOT @carolfish32 @JoyceInYork Generally use standardised Ax for cognition but non-standardised Ax for functional tasks. I’m in a sub-acute community hospital #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk it is refreshing however to see that RCOT have listed a h…
Sarah Innes @SarahInnes16
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk For initial assessment and retest. We do have the luxury of time as long term inpatient setting. I think it would be challenging to retest in higher patient turnover settings #otalk
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@dianecox61 Getting carried away haha #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
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Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BillWongOT: @alisonlaverfaw One thing I find in my setting is- whether standardized assessments are used at all are dependent on- staff…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
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LD Occupational Therapist @CommunityLD_OT
@jenny_welford @caralawrence @rebelraising Absolutely! I rarely use standardised assessments. The way we think, assess, observe is what makes us OT's as well as our person centred, holistic approach. #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@rebelraising @uk_james @jenny_welford Maybe more OTs need to become commissioners #OTalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
@mollharrisOT @alisonlaverfaw I’ve done the same @mollharrisOT It still a useful observation to make to inform clinical practice #OTalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@caralawrence @dianecox61 @rebelraising Yes, I'm talking on an individual, patient contact basis. Commissioners seldom have the first clue about the breadth of our role and in the instances where that is true, standardised assessment tools don't help at all #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
So we are into our last 10 minutes of this #OTalk chat - last question: Question 7. What factors support you to use standardised assessments regularly in your practice? @OTalk @dianecox61 @james_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Having trouble keeping up!!! 😀 #OTalk https://t.co/vkF5f1iWcq
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork And it is also hard if you are a patient and the rehab company changes during your plan of care! You have to get used to new staff and their routines! #otalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@alisonlaverfaw #OTalk and social workers. Have to admit ours isn’t used in a standardised way. Morphed into a social care support plan. But at least we measure the impact and progress of reablement... baby steps
OTalk @OTalk_
Yes you don’t want to be on @OT_rach naughty step, so remember that hashtag- if it’s not in the tweet it doesn’t get on the transcript. #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BirrellOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork I think one of the issues in (social services) is that we see su…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @uk_james: @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @_ROTOS_ @dianecox61 @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Niall_Turn
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
#otalk Q1 A1 Volitional questionnaire is also an excellent tool
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BirrellOT @MaryBirken That will be if I am consistently stationed at a nursing home rather than traveling all over the place! #otalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@caralawrence @rebelraising @uk_james YES!!! And lots more education from the very top via @theRCOT #preach #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
We just posted last Q #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@alisonlaverfaw @YSJOT I’ve seen MOCAs done when I was working as a TA. Used a lot in Stroke, along with the Oxford Cognitive Screen at my last Trust. Some debate about MOCAs validity among therapists I worked with. #OTalk
Alex Scott @alexxjscott
@alisonlaverfaw Absolutely. When I used it the client had several areas to work on so we used COPM to find and order those more important to her. Client centred practice 💚 #otalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
RT @CommunityLD_OT: @jenny_welford @caralawrence @rebelraising Absolutely! I rarely use standardised assessments. The way we think, assess,…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: So we are into our last 10 minutes of this #OTalk chat - last question: Question 7. What factors support you to use st…
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 7 #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@BillWongOT @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork Bill I'm always fascinated by how the structure and funding you operate within makes your answers so different to many UK-based folks! #OTalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@NottshcOt @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk Have you seen MOHO Explor? I have had training for this but not used it yet.
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Absolutely @MaryBirken #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@alisonlaverfaw Barthel is interesting when looking at scale impact of a service. I saw some consolidated Barthel data recently but it didn’t tell me much at that level, generally that people were a bit more indep after having an intermediate care intervention post discharge. No surprise #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
I am delivering training this week to about 25 OTs in TEWV on the Activity Card Sort - ACS-UK. We have also been doing a study to look at how #ACSUK and #SOTOF are being implemented into practice in two Trusts @OTalk #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken Being able to show clients how they have changed/ improved esp with the OSA- it’s how they have scored themselves and they’ve found it uplifting when I show them #OTalk
Rachel Reece OT @RRenable
@MaryBirken I agree! It’s so important that our patients/ families understand why and what we’ve assessed! Not just that we’ve conducted an assessment with language that distances our therapeutic relationship #involvemeinmycare #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I am delivering training this week to about 25 OTs in TEWV on the Activity Card Sort - ACS-UK. We have also been doing…
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Q6. The barriers I hear about from clinicians are lack of time to search suitable measures and time to practice...but this investment is worth it & ethically best for people using our services. #otalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@margaretOT360 #otalk think I mis understood your tweet. I thought you meant the student should be able to cover the ax’s within the 1000 hours of practice placement 🤦🏾‍♀️
Occupational Therapy @NottshcOt
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken #OTalk Q7 A7 our service is lucky in having a professional lead OT that has complete direction of what tools should be used across the team
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork Recently, I went to a nursing home when my company took over the contract on its first day. The staff had to share a gait belt and a pulse oxymeter. We had no other equipment other than the parallel bars provided. We had to borrow a FWW. #otalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@SarahInnes16 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @sherlynmelody @uk_james @BillWongOT @gemOT18 #otalk that’s the snag funding specific Ax licences for a minority’s workforce in a non health setting.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @gemOT18: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken Being able to show clients how th…
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@jenny_welford @dianecox61 @rebelraising I quite like outcome measures but definitely think they could be easily reported on wrong. I have found outcome measures can be really helpful for patients to see improvements and help with discussion for further goals #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
RT @gemOT18: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken Being able to show clients how th…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
My students were surprised there wasn’t more evidence of psychometric studies when they appraised it last week. #OTalk
Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360
RT @RRenable: @MaryBirken I agree! It’s so important that our patients/ families understand why and what we’ve assessed! Not just that we’v…
OTalk @OTalk_
Only five mins remaining!! Any final thoughts? #otalk https://t.co/i5bRQiC1if
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Only five mins remaining!! Any final thoughts? #otalk https://t.co/i5bRQiC1if
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
Love this! Standardised assessment tools have a place, of course. I use them! But I feel strongly that they should only evidence what we already know from conversation and holistic assessment #OTalk
ᏕᏂᏋᏒLᎩᏁ 💚💚 @sherlynmelody
@BirrellOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #otalk yes that is very true!
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: My students were surprised there wasn’t more evidence of psychometric studies when they appraised it last week. #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@spicer_booth @uk_james @jenny_welford @rebelraising Oooo I have not heard of this! #OTalk thanks for sharing
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@NottshcOt @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BirrellOT @MaryBirken In my setting... even if that happens, no consistent follow through if some other therapists will come in and help out at the facilities! And it will be doubly hard if they come on weekends! #otalk
Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken Using standardised assessments and outcome measures in practice enables us to able clearly articulate the #ValueOfOT to service users, MDT colleagues, and commissioners, as well as potentially contributing to the evidence base for the profession #OTalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@sherlynmelody @jenny_welford @caralawrence @rebelraising Ahh this is an interesting topic!! What about a standardised assessment would make u feel less like a social worker?!being able to say you're using an ot standardised assessment?personally, it sounds deeper than that! #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken Their being a normal part of the setting's work, I think - taking the time to work with a tool that's not supported in the setting would be (has been) really hard. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
I think some OTs don’t have time to read the whole manual - but the administration and scoring sections are key. Some tests are very straightforward though #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@caralawrence @rebelraising @jenny_welford Yeah, there are a few out there. I did it for 10 years and then last year went back into provider services, it taught me a lot and now valuable to help guide commissioners #workingtogether #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @alisonlaverfaw: My students were surprised there wasn’t more evidence of psychometric studies when they appraised it last week. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BirrellOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergostep
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @BirrellOT: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @KerryEdwardsOT @ergostep
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@caralawrence @gemOT18 @jenny_welford @rebelraising #otalk @YHCareRecord
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@rebelraising @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork Well- we will have changes soon in October. So more unique answers coming after that... lol! 😂 #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @uk_james: @caralawrence @rebelraising @jenny_welford Yeah, there are a few out there. I did it for 10 years and then last year went bac…
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@rebelraising @jenny_welford @caralawrence I think this is an interesting point, I think students transitioning to newly qualified practitioners cling on to the idea of a standardised assessment for that reason, but what else can we do to support that feeling when no standardisation in place? #Otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@alisonlaverfaw You were meant to read the whole manual 🤫. I also find the internet is an excellent resource for help! YouTube and love some OT podcasts #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@rebelraising @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @JoyceInYork But I would occasionally come across the pond to visit UK based occupational therapy practitioners and students. #otalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@Lizzie_OT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken #Otalk @cjk_chris @CaraNimmo this is why an OT standardised assessment is my wish....
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
@sandra_kirkwood @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Don't forget #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Agree! #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@ciderwithsophie @rebelraising @jenny_welford Time and confidence #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @caralawrence: @alisonlaverfaw You were meant to read the whole manual 🤫. I also find the internet is an excellent resource for help! Yo…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@spicer_booth @SarahInnes16 @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Def worth a shot! I guess it’s not just funding for me but my team too but will look into this #OTalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@LelanieBrewer @alisonlaverfaw Yes definitely, just using a few of those activities in non standardised manner can provide really good clin obs and target a variety of different skills #OTalk
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken #OTalk I am lucky, I have autonomy to choose ax. Trust have paid for my training. Practice increases speed and confidence in using ax.
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@rebelraising @uk_james @jenny_welford @MathesonMichael That is amazing! #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Here are 3 assessments relevant to many settings: 1) interview based self report client centered = Canadian Occupational Performance Measure; 2) OT scored, good for measuring outcomes = AUSTOMs; 3) if you struggle to find the right assessment use Goal Attaintment Scaling #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@ClaireBellNYPOT @caralawrence @gemOT18 @jenny_welford @rebelraising @YHCareRecord Funny, I was looking at the YH Care Record just before this. What kind of social care data feeds in and do intermediate care and social care OTs have view access? #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @caralawrence: @ciderwithsophie @rebelraising @jenny_welford Time and confidence #otalk
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw Cara I’d love it if you could share any OT podcasts you know of? I’m a bit of a podcast fiend :) #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Thanks for that information
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Here are 3 assessments relevant to many settings: 1) interview based self report client centered = Canadian Occupationa…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
What is it harder at the finish? #OTalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@caralawrence @rebelraising @jenny_welford Exactly, with the right balance of practical training, supervision, induction, alongside their own reflection and cpd, these skills should be bloomed #OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@ciderwithsophie @jenny_welford @caralawrence Encouraging OTness (what is that?!) in portfolio development and reflective practice, perhaps? #OTalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Counting down to host tonight’s #OTalk with @dianecox61 in 2 hours time. Who is planning to join us? Do you think OTs…
OTalk @OTalk_
@sandra_kirkwood @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw Because your account is private Sandra, people that you don’t follow will not see your tweet, and your comments will not be seen on the transcript. #otalk and you need to include the hashtag in all tweets.
Georgia Fair @Georgia_Fair
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken #OTalk As the trust is getting hotter on measuring outcomes, I am increasingly using standardized ax. Demonstrate value of OT.
OTalk @OTalk_
Wow that went fast, the hours is up, can we please thank @dianecox61 and @alisonlaverfaw for a great chat tonight! #OTalk https://t.co/3W1hOX0cME
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ In my setting- use of assessments have to start from the top of management. Not the immediate top of management (director of rehab), but building managers and beyond in terms using standardized assessments. #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
How did it get to 9pm? #OTalk - we'll be on for while longer answering to your responses. Thank you all for a fantastic chat from @alisonlaverfaw & me @dianecox61
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
I would be interested to hear if OTs in MH use AusTom-MH? #otalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@uk_james @caralawrence @rebelraising Commissioning is a bit of a hot potato for me, as I work in oncology. Unless you're extending lives, the money tree is dry. Loads of community specialist palliative OTs are losing their titles and are now rapid response. It's so sad and standardised tools just don't help #OTalk
Claire Bell @ClaireBellNYPOT
@NottshcOt @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork @theRCOT However #snomed doesn’t include social care input. You only get half the picture. #otalk
James Lampert @uk_james
RT @OTalk_: Wow that went fast, the hours is up, can we please thank @dianecox61 and @alisonlaverfaw for a great chat tonight! #OTalk htt…
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@alisonlaverfaw Often it can be on the telephone! So some couldn’t be completed on it! So that might be where choosing measure that can be done over phone #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Get a student on pleacement to research potential assessments suitable for the setting, appraise the evidence base for a couple and then present about the assessments to the team #OTalk @OTalk great learning for the student and useful for the team too!
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Thank you @OT_rach @OTalk_ #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw Great to be part of #OTalk again tonight, thanks everyone!
Gemma P @gemOT18
@LAURA59455619 @caralawrence @alisonlaverfaw Oh me too me too recommendations please! #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Get a student on pleacement to research potential assessments suitable for the setting, appraise the evidence base for…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ Like for example, make it a company policy to use certain assessments (as long as the patients are appropriate candidates). Lower level will be directors of rehab have to ensure staff are following through. #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@spicer_booth @uk_james @jenny_welford @rebelraising It’s all in the language #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Ok that’s me, @OT_rach logging off! The transcript from tonight’s chat will be added to the blog soon. #OTalk https://t.co/GoH0fhaqEL
Lauren @OTLaurenC
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw When you realise you've missed #otalk 🤦🏼‍♀️
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@uk_james @caralawrence @rebelraising Ohhhh, I think I need all of your knowledge please @uk_james :) #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @MaryBirken: Agree! #otalk https://t.co/Im2v8zA54w
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@rebelraising @jenny_welford @caralawrence Hahaha love that word (not sure it is one though 🤔 well coined!). I feel like people often think that stops once u have a job, but that's actually the time to apply everything and keep using it to develop in particular needs. Gone off topic but the rcot pillars help #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Yes, modification can reduce a test’s validity and / or reliability and we don’t know the impact of the change unless we repeat the psychometric studies on the modified version #OTalk @OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@jenny_welford @caralawrence @rebelraising Ha, haven’t worked out quite yet how to do a download but feel free to ask anything anytime! #OTalk #SharingIsCaring
Gemma P @gemOT18
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw What a whirlwind of exciting chat though 🙌😊☝️thanks all #OTalk
Rachel Booth @OT_rach
RT @dianecox61: Thank you @OT_rach @OTalk_ #OTalk https://t.co/D30e2wwNTw
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @OTalk_: Ok that’s me, @OT_rach logging off! The transcript from tonight’s chat will be added to the blog soon. #OTalk https://t.co/GoH…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Yes, modification can reduce a test’s validity and / or reliability and we don’t know the impact of the change unless w…
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@rebelraising @ciderwithsophie @caralawrence I love a bit of OTness. It is definitely a word on my planet :) #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk thanks to everyone who has participated tonight - it’s going to be a very interesting and useful transcript. Any key messages you would like to end with? Any ideas from others that you might follow up on? @OTalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@ciderwithsophie @jenny_welford @caralawrence Have we had an #OTalk on retaining professional identity when practicing outside specific OT jobs? I would love to talk about totally failing to do that! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @ciderwithsophie: @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @_ROTOS_ @COTECEurope @enOThe1 @YSJOT @Yorksjotsociety @theRCOT @Ker
Lauren @OTLaurenC
RT @NottshcOt: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork #OTalk it is refreshing however to see that RCOT have listed a h…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@spicer_booth @SarahInnes16 @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I had meant to apply for that but day job has got in the way... I must refocus on this #OTalk thanks everyone for ideas and useful chat 🙌
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw My favourite podcast which helps me with work and life is @GuiltFemPod I like On The air and glass half full. They latter are American and OT related but really interesting #otalk there was an otalk on them a whole back
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk thanks to everyone who has participated tonight - it’s going to be a very interesting and useful transcript. Any…
Lesley Hawkins @LesleyHawkins5
@OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk thanks.
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@rebelraising @jenny_welford @caralawrence Funnily enough I just looked this up today, there was one in November 2018 but specifically mh focus, maybe we should do one more general (irony not lost on me!), or specifically physical/social care/social worker/nurse? #OTALK
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Oh No! Welcome in the 11th hour! You can always catch up on the transcript - https://t.co/njUJ2HwTkl there will be lots to read it was a very #OTalk engaging chat tonight #OTalk @OTalk
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@rebelraising @ciderwithsophie @caralawrence I'm sure you're much better at retaining your professional identity than you think. OT will be flowing through your veins! #OTalk
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@rebelraising @jenny_welford @caralawrence I do hope universities cover this topic though- ie generic working.anyone know? (Sorry gone completely off topic 🙊) #OTalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@gemOT18 @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @GuiltFemPod So jealous I wanted to go but it passed me buy! I love it! Think it has changed my practice and my life #otalk
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@ciderwithsophie @jenny_welford @caralawrence I would be up for doing some prep work/ writing on my experience for that, perhaps? #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Oh No! Welcome in the 11th hour! You can always catch up on the transcript - https://t.co/njUJ2HwTkl there will be lots…
Lauren @OTLaurenC
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @BillWongOT @JoyceInYork Sorry late to party!!! But just incase, does anyone have any recommendations for assessment tools for older people with physical disabilities/health problems? #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
It was a pleasure - so much fun to host with a colleague @dianecox61 - If you are interested in hosting an #OTalk but feeling a bit daunted I recommend finding a colleague to host with you
Sophie is my name. @ciderwithsophie
@jenny_welford @rebelraising @caralawrence Exactly, I agree!! Its about the reframing and reminding though! #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: It was a pleasure - so much fun to host with a colleague @dianecox61 - If you are interested in hosting an #OTalk but f…
Kate Joester @rebelraising
@jenny_welford @ciderwithsophie @caralawrence It's all coming back to me quicker than I'd thought, actually :) #OTalk
James Lampert @uk_james
@ClaireBellNYPOT @caralawrence @gemOT18 @jenny_welford @rebelraising @YHCareRecord Now that’s a challenge! Nationally (one of my services is the NY Assistive Technology Service). Just ask as with NYCC HWBB on Fri and opps for sharing data into it I think if there’s appetite to try something new out #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Yes, I agree #OTalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I am delivering training this week to about 25 OTs in TEWV on the Activity Card Sort - ACS-UK. We have also been doing…
Hayley Samantha OT @hsbannister
@OTDebs and @JessicaMN_OT are going to aim to publish ours this year! The full therapeutic programme is developed on MOHOST outcomes and it really is fabulous! @MOHOspark @Mersey_Care
Jenny Welford OT @jenny_welford
@uk_james @ClaireBellNYPOT @caralawrence @gemOT18 @rebelraising @YHCareRecord I mean, I have no idea what you just said, but it sounds very knowledgable :) #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk @OTalk well that is @dianecox61 and I signing of for this chat. Many thanks to everyone who participated tonight
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @caralawrence: @alisonlaverfaw You were meant to read the whole manual 🤫. I also find the internet is an excellent resource for help! Yo…
Kate Joester @rebelraising
Off to walk the dog, thanks #OTalkers! Also do I have the nicest #OTalk view? (Ignore the diggers) https://t.co/uji5tviEiL
James Lampert @uk_james
@ClaireBellNYPOT Thanks! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @caralawrence: @gemOT18 @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw My favourite podcast which helps me with work and life is @GuiltFemPod I like On…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @Georgia_Fair: @alisonlaverfaw @otalk @dianecox61 @James_uk @JoyceInYork @BillWongOT @BirrellOT @MaryBirken #OTalk As the trust is getti…
Sue Mesa @sue_mesa
@ciderwithsophie @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s a tricky one as unis need to strike the balance between teaching what they know is used in practice whilst also introducing students to tools that are congruent with contemporary theory and have the best evidence base - so that they are preparing OT’s for the future #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @sue_mesa: @ciderwithsophie @LAURA59455619 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk It’s a tricky one as unis need to strike the balance between teaching…
Laura Student OT @LAURA59455619
@ciderwithsophie @rebelraising @jenny_welford @caralawrence Had not heard of the RCOT pillars of practice. Quick google & it looks like a great resource. Could be perfect for 3rd years progressing on to their first OT roles :) #OTalk
Lauren @OTLaurenC
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk Already on it @alisonlaverfaw it looks great #otalk
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@LAURA59455619 @ciderwithsophie @rebelraising @jenny_welford I think it’s great for looking at development #OTalk
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