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Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
Hi everyone, hope you're all well! Who's joining tonight? #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
Happy Tuesday!! Ready for #OTalk whilst watching #BGT 🙂😊 https://t.co/oakRweuMeA
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @kerri_schOT: Happy Tuesday!! Ready for #OTalk whilst watching #BGT 🙂😊 https://t.co/oakRweuMeA
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ looking forward to hearing your thoughts! I find it really interesting #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
RT @kerri_schOT: Happy Tuesday!! Ready for #OTalk whilst watching #BGT 🙂😊 https://t.co/oakRweuMeA
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
Say hi even if you're just lurking :) #OTalk
Elle Russell, MS, OTR/L @elleOT2019
@OTalk_ @GillyGorry @erinnnnn14 I'm here and ready #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@erinnnnn14 Me too! I'm avoiding unpacking, chilling with #OTalk & painting my nails💅🏻💆🏼
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ I know! And that's only for individuals known to their local authority #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Hello folks! #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
So tonight's topic is *drum roll please* is .....#OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
about the considerations we have in practice regarding paid work for individuals with a learning disability #otalk (sorry ran out of space!)
Michele Morgan OTMAEd @MicheleMorganOT
@erinnnnn14 hi there! #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
I guess we will start with the first question of the night #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
Evening all! How's it going? #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
#OTalk https://t.co/s5cjSG7G98
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @BillWongOT: Hello folks! #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @erinnnnn14: So tonight's topic is *drum roll please* is .....#OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
#OTalk No I haven't this is all new to me :) https://t.co/8XbjBFSQiA
Michele Morgan OTMAEd @MicheleMorganOT
@erinnnnn14 we run a 4 week summer program focused 100% on job skill development in manufacturing setting. It works!! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
No- but in the US... I am aware of a program called the College Internship program. #otalk https://t.co/BSUEB8JhKM
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 looking forward to it 👍🏼🙋🏼 #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT Is that a national programme? what does it entail? #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy Me too Jo! I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts :) #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 I did work in low secure LD. Vocational skills and placements internally/externally high on agenda #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 Yes- in select locations. #otalk https://t.co/1JAYoL4iz3
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ Do you get much support from community work placements? or is it mainly voluntary work? #OTalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @erinnnnn14: about the considerations we have in practice regarding paid work for individuals with a learning disability #otalk (sorry r…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT Oh this is great to hear! Was there much in the way of paid placements or was it mostly voluntary? #OTalk
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RT @erinnnnn14: @Claire_OT_ Do you get much support from community work placements? or is it mainly voluntary work? #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 Yes- in select locations. #otalk https://t.co/1JAYoL4iz3
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RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 I did work in low secure LD. Vocational skills and placements internally/externally high on agenda #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT A link I will definitely check out. Thanks Bill! #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 We didn't have any one on a paid placement at that point, in LD, but a few MH pt's had just started going out to work #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 Yeah- the founder of the program knows Temple Grandin. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 We didn't have any one on a paid placement at that point, in LD, but a few MH pt's had just started going out to…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 Yeah- the founder of the program knows Temple Grandin. #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 We had an internal coffee bar, shop, IT room, allotments with animals, etc. Good place to learn vocational skills. #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT I LOVE Temple Gradin. She is inspirational #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 We had an internal coffee bar, shop, IT room, allotments with animals, etc. Good place to learn vocational skill…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT Wow so there are a lot of opportunities for individuals to gain practical skills #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 I heard her speak 7 years ago. Had my chances since then, but no time. #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT I've always found it hard to get paid employment placements. Volunteer much easier depends on support required #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT I feel she is such an important advocate for many things #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@OTalk_ @Lauren_OT I think this leads nicely into question 2...#OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Yes definitely, customer service, stock taking, ordering etc. In the shop alone, very good opportunities. #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 We had an internal coffee bar, shop, IT room, allotments with animals, etc. Good place to learn vocational skill…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
2. What do you feel are the differences in terms of paid and voluntary work aside from monetary gain? #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @Lauren_OT Wow so there are a lot of opportunities for individuals to gain practical skills #OTalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @erinnnnn14: @BillWongOT I feel she is such an important advocate for many things #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 I was lucky to hear Steven Shore speak a couple months ago at AOTA too. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT I've heard work placements are reducing (even voluntary) so getting paid work is v. difficult #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@OTalk_ @erinnnnn14 One of the other OTs was doing an IPS pilot / project which was going very well in the MH stream #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 If it is from charity perspective, it is how well you fit into overall budget from program perspective. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 i think sometimes people might feel more secure in paid work, also more important/respected if they hold a paid position #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ Do you feel both provide this or is there more potential with paid work? #otalk
SarahBarkerOT @smb1607
@erinnnnn14 I guess for many it's the difference between whether or not it feels like a 'real' job #otalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 I think both can be variable. My voluntary role has CPD, supervision, team meetings, events and more. Work I'm largely on my own! #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT @OTalk_ Was this recently, Lauren? How was it received? #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Self esteem and confidence, battling stigma /discrimination, feeling more productive, feeling like you're giving something to society #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT budgeting/resource seems to be a key consideration #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 If it is from charity perspective, it is how well you fit into overall budget from program perspective. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @kerri_schOT: @erinnnnn14 i think sometimes people might feel more secure in paid work, also more important/respected if they hold a pai…
SarahBarkerOT @smb1607
@erinnnnn14 Self-esteem, being able to say they're employed, often feels more valued by society than voluntary role #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
In my exper outcome can b different. Volunteer - giving back, learning skills. Paid - sense of value, productive #otalk https://t.co/lcPUr8Mvm6
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 I know because I failed to get into a brand new charity for that reason. #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ It was about 18 months ago, not 100 per cent sure, don't know ins and outs but I know there was a few in paid work from it. #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@kerri_schOT And a greater sense of independence and pride in abilities #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @OTalk_: In my exper outcome can b different. Volunteer - giving back, learning skills. Paid - sense of value, productive…
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 Self esteem and confidence, battling stigma /discrimination, feeling more productive, feeling like you'…
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ They had also just opened up the 'job club' that was ran to LD pt's. #OTalk
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RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ They had also just opened up the 'job club' that was ran to LD pt's. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 At that time, I felt the charity was still in its infancy and needed a fair bit of time to establish itself. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT @OTalk_ It's great to see that the outcomes were positive. I wonder how much the OTs in MH had to liaise with local businesses #OTalk
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RT @erinnnnn14: @kerri_schOT And a greater sense of independence and pride in abilities #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
RT @erinnnnn14: @kerri_schOT And a greater sense of independence and pride in abilities #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ It's great to see that the outcomes were positive. I wonder how much the OTs in MH had to liaise…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ A sense of belonging....cracking out Wilcock! <3 #OTalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @erinnnnn14: @Claire_OT_ A sense of belonging....cracking out Wilcock! <3 #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @kerri_schOT And a greater sense of independence and pride in abilities #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT @OTalk_ What does 'job club' include Lauren? #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 definitely.. sense of belonging as well #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 Self esteem and confidence, battling stigma /discrimination, feeling more productive, feeling like you'…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT I think this is true. time is also something to consider and to help implent a programme #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@OTalk_ I think both can be the other way too! I give back with work but my voluteer work gives me great value. I think it varies #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ Thinking about work, pro's and con's of work, writing CV's, applications etc. Interview skills. #OTalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
I've seen some great supported employment services, job club sounds like a great idea. #otalk how do OTs get involved in services like this https://t.co/TkLbes27OX
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 agree with all of these, think self-esteem is a massive factor #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
Time for another question leading on from this...#OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
3. What are the advantages/disadvantages of supporting individual with LD to gain paid employment as opposed to voluntary employment? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @OTalk_ I think both can be the other way too! I give back with work but my voluteer work gives me great value. I think…
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ We also would have competencies to ax and pt's to self ax half way and at the end of their vocational placement internally #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ We also would have competencies to ax and pt's to self ax half way and at the end of their voca…
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ Useful skills for volunteering too! You often need a CV and references for that now too :) #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ We would then discuss and write a report and pt would get copy and certificate for personal file to use in future #OTalk
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good question. #otalk https://t.co/jP8wLuPoY2
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ We also would have competencies to ax and pt's to self ax half way and at the end of their voca…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 From my perspective now, financial independence is helping me with leisure exploration... such as golf and traveling. #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ I'm trying to remember now but I think we had just started to standardise stuff too, so offering recognised qualifications #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ these are such good skills to work on & often overlooked i think #otalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 Financial gain? .. It's the main difference as far as I can see. In most other scenarios the skills and opportunites are similar #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @OTalk_: I've seen some great supported employment services, job club sounds like a great idea. #otalk how do OTs get involv…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ There is a lot of work before even starting at the workplace to consider for sure #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
@erinnnnn14 is consideration given to the services users benefits and how working will impact these ? #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT I miss whilst training and being a poor student! I love to travel #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ I'm trying to remember now but I think we had just started to standardise stuff too, so offerin…
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@erinnnnn14 Confidence, self-esteem, communication, team working, patience ☺️ #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ Definitely! often the more you plan the better the outcome too #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 For me, I am now on the fence of WFOT next year given how expensive it potentially is. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT @OTalk_ I think this is important. Qualifications seem to be a pre-requisite to work #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @kerri_schOT: @Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ these are such good skills to work on & often overlooked i think #otalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@erinnnnn14 I think they can be gained from voluntary work because a lot of the time the focus is on giving back and helping others #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Potentially tougher competition at app and interview stages and more 'hoops' to jump through to get into a role when paid?! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Definitely all of the above... patience is a work in progress. No carryover when playing golf... lol! #otalk https://t.co/TdhHKjvsnJ
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ I think this is important. Qualifications seem to be a pre-requisite to work #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@kerri_schOT @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ I agree completely! I would love these skills to be offered in schools (there wasn't any when I was there!) #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ And in our field, of course we need our own qualifications! #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Having own income is a great feeling and gives sense of achievement - advantage. #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@BillWongOT I'm pretty sure there is more carrying over in a golfing occupation than first thinking about ☺️ #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson @erinnnnn14 Or in my quest to become an OT as a student... internships! #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ 100%! they are basic life skills that everyone needs to learn #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @kerri_schOT @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ I agree completely! I would love these skills to be offered in schools (there wasn'…
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 Yes I did shadowing & volunteering similarly but in role emerging areas not traditional OT posts, for instance in homeless shelters #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy Really interesting. As there are a lot of similarities between both expect payment. But is money a large aspect of work? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson I say no carryover because I sometimes struggle at the common adage- one shot at a time! I think 2-3 shots in ahead sometimes. 😛 #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson I also can have my meltdowns at the golf course as a result of lack of patience. 😛 #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Potentially more flexibility with voluntary work?! #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
I think this is really important. Will the considerations for the service user be outweighed by the benefits? #OTalk https://t.co/jEvg0bcjrw
Lauren @Lauren_OT
RT @erinnnnn14: 3. What are the advantages/disadvantages of supporting individual with LD to gain paid employment as opposed to voluntary e…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT Is this a positive or negative for the individual? #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @jessica_swilson: @erinnnnn14 Confidence, self-esteem, communication, team working, patience ☺️ #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 For a lot of people ££ is the main reason to work. I'm beginning to realise how lucky I am to love my job! #OTalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 Potentially tougher competition at app and interview stages and more 'hoops' to jump through to get int…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Money management is key. I am glad my parents made me financially responsible for mortgage of our second home! #otalk https://t.co/Pgr82wKpyR
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Depends on the individual! #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ I agree thinking of my own experiences! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 I have an OT friend with ASD. She definitely is trying her mix of paid work and her true passions in volunteering. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT And this can be a very stressful and lengthly process #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@BillWongOT i agree money management is essential! wow big responsibility #otalk
Sally P-H @s_v_p_h
Late to the conversation, will try and catch up #dissertation #topic #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 Having own income is a great feeling and gives sense of achievement - advantage. #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @BillWongOT: Money management is key. I am glad my parents made me financially responsible for mortgage of our second home!…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@kerri_schOT I will take that interest rate over student loans... lol! #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @kerri_schOT: @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT @OTalk_ 100%! they are basic life skills that everyone needs to learn #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@BillWongOT haha good point!! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@kerri_schOT 3% is better than 7 or 8%... that adds up! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT I agree- that is why I value stability at my job rather than chasing top dollar at another. #otalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@BillWongOT Ah but your patience is being developed I bet it's a lot better than when you started? My golf experience is limited to crazy golf #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
4.if we consider the impact for the individual-What are the considerations for the service/setting when accessing paid work for pts? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson Haha- I play full golf course almost every week! #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@Lauren_OT @erinnnnn14 true, some people may enjoy the flexibility & others may want more structure than volunteering can provide #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT I agree- that is why I value stability at my job rather than chasing top dollar at another. #otalk
Anna Duxbury @clinpsy_anna
@erinnnnn14 Less than 6% of people diagnosed with LD are in full time employment. Many more want employment. We need a culture change to increase #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson Some holes for me are just beasts. Recently I played a 580 yard hole. That was long torture! #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @Lauren_OT: @erinnnnn14 Potentially tougher competition at app and interview stages and more 'hoops' to jump through to get int…
#OTalk @OTalk_
@erinnnnn14 I mean financial benefits. some services users will lose in other areas if paid. they need to have all options #otalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT Priorities are important. Is stability worth more than a few extra £$ or is flexible hours most iportant?! Everyones different. #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy I talk to friends and we say that work provides money to live and if you enjoy it (even part of it) you're so very lucky <3 #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT In my case is flexible time off. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT @Lauren_OT completely! #otalk
Rosie Marsh @RosemaryMarsh
@erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 I think for me becasue disability makes 'work' so challenging I will only put the effort in for something meaningful. Make sense? #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
All so true! #OTalk https://t.co/aMNrU47JNp
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT And that is also why I proceed my romantic relationships with caution. I might not want to lose a job that fits me well. #otalk
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ive found this a big barrier for many #otalk https://t.co/u7VRlZ4VID
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @erinnnnn14 I think for me becasue disability makes 'work' so challenging I will only put the effort in for somethi…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @RosemaryMarsh: @erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued…
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@clinpsy_anna @erinnnnn14 I completely agree #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy It does. You need to weigh up what is in the best interests for someone and inline with postive risk taking too. what is the impact #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT Yes! Flexible hours and free-reign for fatigue and pain flare management are super important for me in both work & volunteering #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@RosemaryMarsh @erinnnnn14 To a point- I am working 50 hours or more a week at my job. #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
try to remember the tag to ensure it comes up in the feed. thanks #otalk :) https://t.co/jUxdtG3Ldw
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @RosemaryMarsh: @erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued…
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @erinnnnn14 I think for me becasue disability makes 'work' so challenging I will only put the effort in for somethi…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @RosemaryMarsh: @erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued…
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @erinnnnn14: @Lauren_OT And this can be a very stressful and lengthly process #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT Priorities are important. Is stability worth more than a few extra £$ or is flex…
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 Exactly! That can be a challenge in it-self as outcomes aren't always predictable #OTalk
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question 4 #otalk https://t.co/YT1ypGVhIM
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@margaretOT360 @JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT Say if I date someone long distance, then it may have to be- do I want to keep my career where it is now, or go for the dream girl? #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@OTalk_ Do we feel that these barriers need addressing from top (government) and then filtered down through policy and support? #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT Yes! Flexible hours and free-reign for fatigue and pain flare management are sup…
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
Often voluntary work helps all the pre vocational developments. Then both of you identify areas for development #otalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/XqhwaSuYhz
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 My top answer- their strengths and limitations. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT @RosemaryMarsh Wow! What's an average working week in the states, Bill? #OTalk
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@erinnnnn14 risk assessments, reasonable adjustments, support, guidelines, activity analysis. I've done step by step instructions for some #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ @OTalk_ I think pressure placed on individuals is a huge consideration #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 My second answer is- what supports might be in place if the individuals get the jobs. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @OTalk_: @erinnnnn14 risk assessments, reasonable adjustments, support, guidelines, activity analysis. I've done step by ste…
Sally P-H @s_v_p_h
Especially when its not known if the job will work out. It's a good argument for OT in preperation of employment - developing skills #OTalk https://t.co/4IK4dn9ieX
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @RosemaryMarsh Theoretically, I work more than full time. 35 is for my job. #otalk
Anna Duxbury @clinpsy_anna
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ This is a massive problem. Our welfare system needs to change to meet needs of people with LD in accessing employment #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
There is also no uk government support for this. So person could slow down service eg sandwich making and be bullied #otalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/K2Zq3UdUxD
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@S_V_P_H This is true. I think money (unfortunately in some respects) talks volumes #OTalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@erinnnnn14 Time / resources of Staff. Risk ax and management. Time of day. #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 Unfortunately I think the main issue might often be 'What's available right now' :/ #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT @RosemaryMarsh Is it true there is an expectation to work more in the states? I've heard you guys work longgg hours! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @RosemaryMarsh I often get texts or calls on Fridays asking me whether I am interested to work weekends for overtime. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @clinpsy_anna: @erinnnnn14 Less than 6% of people diagnosed with LD are in full time employment. Many more want employment. We nee…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy Is there something in 'managing the unknown' as a skill to support and teach with service users? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @RosemaryMarsh That will be yes/no. In my job, I got asked a lot because the DOR's often take advantage of my flexibility. #otalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
It has to be in legislation from benefits to support for organisation or it won't happen #otalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/J0v8n19285
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
RT @erinnnnn14: @OTalk_ Do we feel that these barriers need addressing from top (government) and then filtered down through policy and supp…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@margaretOT360 So voluntary work with a lead into paid work #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 And the question to follow should be- how well do they fit? #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 My second answer is- what supports might be in place if the individuals get the jobs. #otalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
RT @clinpsy_anna: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ This is a massive problem. Our welfare system needs to change to meet needs of people with LD i…
#OTalk @OTalk_
RT @RosemaryMarsh: @erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued…
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 @RosemaryMarsh I often work weekends / evenings and just have weekdays off instead. As long as I get a rest day at some point it doesn't matter when #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@BillWongOT Support is key. We can be that support #OTalk
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RT @JBOccyTherapy: @erinnnnn14 I think for me becasue disability makes 'work' so challenging I will only put the effort in for somethi…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 @RosemaryMarsh Recently I worked 20 days in a row. #rough #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
We were very concscious not to set someone up to fail, we had a guy who wanted to do a plumbing course #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
RT @erinnnnn14: @margaretOT360 So voluntary work with a lead into paid work #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
For most people it's the way I n to paid employment these days #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/YgsQGiCrcT
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RT @margaretOT360: There is also no uk government support for this. So person could slow down service eg sandwich making and be bullie…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@S_V_P_H Exactly.The unknown can mean that financial support could be put on hold and the delayed if needed again. Could put pt in tough place #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lauren_OT: We were very concscious not to set someone up to fail, we had a guy who wanted to do a plumbing course #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @margaretOT360: For most people it's the way I n to paid employment these days #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/YgsQGiCrcT
Sally P-H @s_v_p_h
Also, additional training requirements for those with LD, additional to 'mainstream' requirements unfortunately #OTalk https://t.co/DF2m5jPAvH
Lauren @Lauren_OT
But we knew that would be very difficult for him. So was about pitching his abilities alongside his needs/wants for employment #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 Absolutely! It's a topic that often comes up with my service-users. How to continue managing chronic symptons when work roles change #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lauren_OT But sometimes failure can be used to eliminate what factors might not fit. #otalk
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try to remember the tag :) #OTalk https://t.co/5lZrubTcSh
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lauren_OT My failed attempt at private practice at least told me that I am more suited for a paycheck to paycheck job. #otalk
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RT @clinpsy_anna: @erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ This is a massive problem. Our welfare system needs to change to meet needs of people with LD i…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT This is a huge consideration. The jobs market (as we are told a lot) is limited already #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@OTalk_ Ooooops sorry! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @erinnnnn14 Absolutely! It's a topic that often comes up with my service-users. How to continue managing chronic sy…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lauren_OT: But we knew that would be very difficult for him. So was about pitching his abilities alongside his needs/wants for employme…
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
How about plumbers mate..?#OTalk https://t.co/fbO2FMD0kD
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @JBOccyTherapy As they say, beggars can't be choosers. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@margaretOT360 It was definitely for me.I worked in the arts for a number of years and without voluntary work(degree or not) you'd not be considered #otalk
Lauren @Lauren_OT
@BillWongOT But we have a duty of care. And given his performance in other occupations, from our ax we knew that it wouldn't be a good idea #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT This is such an important point. I think knowing your patients and supporting their because of that is a big part of the process #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @JBOccyTherapy Like when I initially started at nursing homes, I made myself fit in working in the job. #otalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 @BillWongOT Yep!! It's also a challenge for employers..How do you make 'reasonable adjustment' Support needed for both service users & providers #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@jessica_swilson @OTalk_ I completely agree #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
No one is shortlisted for an ot course without voluntary work. #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/r3SfKrofRz
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 True- I am glad my building manager adjusts to my needs. They are not many, but enough. #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
got distracted from #otalk to chat about #PLLEndGame .. oops 🙈@jessica_swilson
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Lauren_OT @BillWongOT It's best interests and positive risk being weighed up #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 Like for example, on the days I have to guest lectures, I have to change work site for the day. #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @JBOccyTherapy: @erinnnnn14 @BillWongOT Yep!! It's also a challenge for employers..How do you make 'reasonable adjustment' Support…
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
5 minutes left everyone...any parting thoughts? what's the biggest consideration do we feel? #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@kerri_schOT Oooopsies! I was reading & trying to keep up too😇🙈 you did a fab job @erinnnnn14 #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
final five minutes #OTalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
RT @kerri_schOT: got distracted from #otalk to chat about #PLLEndGame .. oops 🙈@jessica_swilson
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 I think the person with LD at the end of the day is the expert of these situations. #otalk
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RT @erinnnnn14: @Lauren_OT @BillWongOT It's best interests and positive risk being weighed up #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@jessica_swilson @kerri_schOT Thanks :) I kept missing so many tweets! lots to read. it's so great #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @OTalk_: final five minutes #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 Use our holistic qualities to understand our service users' needs! #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @jessica_swilson: @kerri_schOT Oooopsies! I was reading & trying to keep up too😇🙈 you did a fab job @erinnnnn14 #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
So important! #OTalk https://t.co/aH0quTYc4e
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
Legislation at the top. Voluntary work at the bottom and hopefully meet in paid work in some capacity #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/yX1VyCkJnM
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @Lauren_OT For someone like me... a T-diagram works best! #otalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 Use our holistic qualities to understand our service users' needs! #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
We can keep our fingers crossed and do our best in the meantime :) #OTalk https://t.co/Jn9XcWS7Pn
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
RT @erinnnnn14: So important! #OTalk https://t.co/aH0quTYc4e
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 @jessica_swilson such an interesting topic that I don't have much experience in.. definitely feeling better educated, thank you 👍🏼😊 #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @margaretOT360: Legislation at the top. Voluntary work at the bottom and hopefully meet in paid work in some capacity #OTalk…
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@erinnnnn14 I was just typing this @BillWongOT #otalk 100% agree!
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RT @erinnnnn14: 5 minutes left everyone...any parting thoughts? what's the biggest consideration do we feel? #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
Just to let you all know @theRCOT LD specialist section is meeting on Thursday. They're looking for anything members want discussing #otalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @BillWongOT: @erinnnnn14 Use our holistic qualities to understand our service users' needs! #otalk
#OTalk @OTalk_
me too #OTalk https://t.co/RChm66WFbM
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@Claire_OT_ Thanks for joining Claire! So interesting to speak with everyone and get all of your thoughts #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
An awareness and lobbying is vital, especially when we know the people concerned #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/eZyQfpjfSt
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@jessica_swilson @erinnnnn14 Haha! I have NOT lost my quick fingers. #otalk
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@kerri_schOT @erinnnnn14 I don't have a vast amount of experience but I'm looking forward to developing my knowledge/experience in the future #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @margaretOT360: An awareness and lobbying is vital, especially when we know the people concerned #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/eZyQ…
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
RT @jessica_swilson: @kerri_schOT @erinnnnn14 I don't have a vast amount of experience but I'm looking forward to developing my knowledg…
Nabachwa LL (she/her) #BlackLivesMatter ✊🏾❤️💚 @NabachwaOT
@BillWongOT @RosemaryMarsh @erinnnnn14 I agree with Bill, to a point. In my experience-volunteering = valuable opp's for work experience, responsibility, networking... 1/2 #OTalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@BillWongOT @erinnnnn14 Very true. Often situation for OT's tho. "I know this doesn't work but what's the alternative" or "how do you impliment XYZ" #OTalk
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@erinnnnn14 thanks for a great discussion. good job hosting! sorry I was late. #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @theRCOT Oh this is really interesting! How do we let them know? #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@OTalk_ Thank you for being a great support! Loved hosting another #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
RT @OTalk_: @erinnnnn14 thanks for a great discussion. good job hosting! sorry I was late. #OTalk
Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360
@erinnnnn14 @Claire_OT_ That was great Erin, well done for keeping it going forward. #otalk @margaretOT360
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JBOccyTherapy @erinnnnn14 I think in my situation b4 entering nursing homes as work, my OT would have said, "you got to take the plunge, or you won't make $." #otalk
JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy
@erinnnnn14 @theRCOT A friend of mine asked me to do a shout out. It's on their facebook page :) #OTalk https://t.co/FKVrGBMrT5
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ Well done! #otalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
Thanks for joining everyone and for such great ideas and thoughts! Till next time...#OTalk https://t.co/faWwmTNR9F
Sally P-H @s_v_p_h
They are, yet they are potentially entering a new environment of which they are not experienced in... they need our expertise of that #OTalk https://t.co/sPkk8LmpVN
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@JBOccyTherapy @theRCOT Thanks for the link, Jo! Will be checking it our for sure #OTalk
Erin H @erinnnn14_OT
@OTalk_ I will get my thinking cap back out and on :D #otalk
Ellen OT @ellram_OT
RT @RosemaryMarsh: @erinnnnn14 From personal experience voluntary work =more fun less stress. Paid work=sense of responsibility feel valued…
Nabachwa LL (she/her) #BlackLivesMatter ✊🏾❤️💚 @NabachwaOT
@BillWongOT @RosemaryMarsh @erinnnnn14 ... paid work=valuable opp's for work experience, responsibility, independence. Both can be fun/stressful. That's the challenge! 2/2 #OTalk
Ellen OT @ellram_OT
RT @clinpsy_anna: @erinnnnn14 Less than 6% of people diagnosed with LD are in full time employment. Many more want employment. We nee…
Jess Wilson💙💚 @jessica_wOT
@erinnnnn14 @OTalk_ You did great honey, I'd love to host one one day soon if I can think of an interesting topic! #OTalk
Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT
@erinnnnn14 such a good topic!! #otalk
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