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Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @NikkiDanielsOT: Looking forward to tonight’s chat on face validity. Should be a great discussion and learning opportunity. Lurkers welc…
OTalk @OTalk_
Good evening all and welcome to tonight's #OTalk Research. It's @hooper_ek on the OTalk account tonight. Who is here? Do say hello even if you are lurking or multitasking!
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: 2 minute warning for tonight's #OTalk Research. Time to grab a cuppa and flex your fingers ready for the chat 😀
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @theRCOT: Tonight's #OTalk Research topic is: Face validity in outcome measures: what is it, why is it important and how do we evaluate…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @hooper_ek: So I know that there’s the small matter of the World Cup match for England tonight but do still join ⁦@alisonlaverfaw⁩ & I f…
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@OTalk_ @hooper_ek I’m here hello #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Me too #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Hi @hollyflintoff glad you can join us! #OTalk https://t.co/p362ITmKQz
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @OTalk_: Good evening all and welcome to tonight's #OTalk Research. It's @hooper_ek on the OTalk account tonight. Who is here? Do say he…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Hi I'm here tonight @hooper_ek #OTalk https://t.co/bKiblMV2xp
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Hello #OTalk - I’m Alison and I have been interested in assessment, outcome measures, the standardisation of tests and how we evaluate psychometric properties since the early 1990s. Really pleased we will be discussing face validity tonight
OTalk @OTalk_
Hi @LynneGoodacre good to have you with us #OTalk https://t.co/4yvvSkaLI9
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: Good evening all and welcome to tonight's #OTalk Research. It's @hooper_ek on the OTalk account tonight. Who is here? Do say he…
OTalk @OTalk_
Hi @preston_jenny #OTalk https://t.co/wGWMWxBjm3
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@OTalk_ @hooper_ek Hello! Enjoying the heatwave here #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk @otalk first question for our chat tonight: What do you understand by the term ‘face validity’? Do you have any definitions that you have found useful?
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@OTalk_ @preston_jenny Lurking from my bed tonight as not feeling to well #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
So tonight's #OTalk Research might be a gentle and quiet one given the football but I know that I'm looking forward to exploring the topic of face validity. We are joined by @alisonlaverfaw who is leading our talk tonight.
Beverley Turtle @bevsaturtle
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Lurking here tonight, outcome measurement is my jam!#OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Aw that’s not so good @julieannelowe1 hope you feel better soon #OTalk https://t.co/2SHvKXQ2H8
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk I feel like I should know this but I'm having trouble remembering the difference between face validity and construct validity? #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Question 1 from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/R3Flfp69Dw
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: So tonight's #OTalk Research might be a gentle and quiet one given the football but I know that I'm looking forward to explorin…
Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT
@OTalk_ @hooper_ek I’m here! Lurking and learning #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @bevsaturtle: @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Lurking here tonight, outcome measurement is my jam!#OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I guess I always go with does the measure actually measure what it’s meant to measure #OTalk
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Thank you... looking forward to an informed lurk, going to learn more #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Hello Alison, really interested in tonight’s talk. Thank you for agreeing to lead #OTalk https://t.co/HJMtVhXPbZ
OTalk @OTalk_
Great @bevsaturtle .... do feel free to post and join in rather than lurk :-) #OTalk https://t.co/MpYsWUYryh
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Hi here but it late #OTalk
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw If I’m honest I’m totally clueless-I attempted some research on it (no pun) but got lost #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk one of the challenges I have found with definitions of face validity is a lack of consistency regarding from whose perspective
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@alisonlaverfaw @otalk My understanding in very non research terms is that it does what it says on the tin.... #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
@colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @otalk #otalk @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ simple definition that it looks right
OTalk @OTalk_
@colourful_ot straight in there with a good question #OTalk Perhaps @alisonlaverfaw could give her opinion? https://t.co/OfAV2xfzGF
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk one of the challenges I have found with definitions of face validity is a lack of consistency regarding from who…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
The challenge is needing to look back through the literature to find this out from the initial research #OTAlk https://t.co/wAp7NBmSzN
OTalk @OTalk_
Thanks for joining us @dianecox61 we are just on Q1: What do you understand by the term ‘face validity’? Do you have any definitions that you have found useful? #OTalk https://t.co/Qe4Y7zxxiZ
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Yes, that's what I had in mind as well - "measures what it says it's measuring" - but I always forget what kind of validity that is! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 2007) from the perspective of the person undertaking the test
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 200…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Late to the party. #otalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 200…
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Whoops, got chatting to @GillyGorry and missed the start of #OTalk ...just catching up. Great topic this evening
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
It often feels as if face validity should be less complicated but in practice it doesn't feel like that #OTalk. https://t.co/XEtQb1qdcG
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @otalk To be fair I see the term validity and my brain panics and shouts quantitative research at me which still scares me a little #OTalk
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk one of the challenges I have found with definitions of face validity is a lack of consistency regarding from who…
OTalk @OTalk_
Definition of face validity from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/DERUhLmhc2
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
That last bit is the tricky bit I think @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/zqZ7DI7oZv
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 200…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 200…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @julieannelowe1: @colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @otalk To be fair I see the term validity and my brain panics and shouts quantitative res…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @julieannelowe1: @colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @otalk To be fair I see the term validity and my brain panics and shouts quantitative res…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Just breath..... it will be fine @julieannelowe1 #OTalk https://t.co/YHUOG9Ge7F
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@alisonlaverfaw Hello #OTalk sorry but I want to check: is the person “undertaking the test” the assessor or the assessed?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@julieannelowe1 @colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @otalk I feel the same way... since such as assessments are on subjective scales and norm scores. #otalk
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Face validity relates to whether a test subjectively seems to measure what it is intended to measure (Asher, 200…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Don’t forget #otalk @edenmarrison https://t.co/GWV0e2qaPZ
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Would that depend upon the test that you where looking at? #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Any wisdom on how to manage the subjectivity of it? @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/iRKdclnal0
OTalk @OTalk_
Could it be both? @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/ViAcKXrMs7
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@LynneGoodacre I just start recite credibility and trustworthiness to bring me back into my comfort zone and the panic goes away 😊#Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw I think it maybe good to occasionally have some team meetings to discuss scoring to see if others on team agrees. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre I just start recite credibility and trustworthiness to bring me back into my comfort zone and the panic…
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@celiabentleyOT @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Since the intro to research module that I did last year I feel like I understand the general concepts of reliability and validity but I find that the specific types of validity - criterion validity, face validity, etc. - just blur together for me #OTalk
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Yes, I would make that same assumption. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: @celiabentleyOT @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @otalk Since the intro to research module that I did last year I feel lik…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk That’s where definitions vary! Always the person undertaking the test ( the patient, service user or client) with an OT test - but so@e definitions include the tea administrator too
OTalk @OTalk_
It looks like the question of defining face validity has got our discussion hats on but we need to move on with the chat into Q2 if that's OK @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @OTalk_ @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw I think it maybe good to occasionally have some team meetings to discuss scoring to…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
It’s really interesting when you go back to the original paper to see how the questions were generated and by who #OTalk
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@OTalk_ @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Could the subjectivity be standardised? Is that a daft question? #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
This is why it's good that we can have Tweetchats like this @colourful_ot .... it's good to come from a place of questioning what we think we might know & what we feel confused about! #OTalk https://t.co/VR4f7EBGqQ
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Some definitions also include the perspectives of the therapist administering the test; family members observing the test administration; and/or other professionals who use the test results; or other people who might use the test results, e.g other MDT members #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk That’s where definitions vary! Always the person undertaking the test ( the patient, service user or client) wit…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Well the first phase of the development of outcomes tries to do that #OTalk https://t.co/rIQD11nToZ
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some definitions also include the perspectives of the therapist administering the test; family members observing the t…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some definitions also include the perspectives of the therapist administering the test; family members observing the t…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
2nd question Why is face validity important to study when developing or selecting occupational therapy assessments and outcome measures? #OTalk
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@OTalk_ @colourful_ot Robson’s real world research is still my go to “guru” book for explaining terminology #OTalk
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
RT @OTalk_: This is why it's good that we can have Tweetchats like this @colourful_ot .... it's good to come from a place of questioning wh…
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@OTalk_ Definitely! Also I find if there are things that I *do* understand and someone else isn't sure of, trying to explain it in a Tweet either solidifies that knowledge for me or makes me aware of what aspects of it I need to know more about #OTalk
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: 2nd question Why is face validity important to study when developing or selecting occupational therapy assessments and…
OTalk @OTalk_
It sounds like it's a complex process to unpick and define! @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/uTJu7geDIK
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@OTalk_ @colourful_ot I’m so confused this week.... more reading needed from me I think #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Good question @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/BJKr7BdOw2
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
When I started using outcomes the measures were developed on the basis of what health prof. Thought it was important to measure. They were often wrong #OTalk https://t.co/c3n6EDYb6v
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@alisonlaverfaw That’s useful to know #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
OK so now we have more of an idea about face validity here's Q2 from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/Bxotl8dJYE
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: When I started using outcomes the measures were developed on the basis of what health prof. Thought it was important to…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: @OTalk_ Definitely! Also I find if there are things that I *do* understand and someone else isn't sure of, trying to expl…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @julieannelowe1: @OTalk_ @colourful_ot Robson’s real world research is still my go to “guru” book for explaining terminology #OTalk
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
Sorry #OTalk https://t.co/siXaVqg5lP
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @colourful_ot: @OTalk_ Definitely! Also I find if there are things that I *do* understand and someone else isn't sure of, trying to expl…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
#otalk don’t be confused it more straight forward than it seems https://t.co/sV03tosUUs
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@julieannelowe1 @OTalk_ Thanks for the recommendation! I already have @trishgreenhalgh's How to Read a Paper on my research to-read list but I can always do with more #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: When I started using outcomes the measures were developed on the basis of what health prof. Thought it was important to…
OTalk @OTalk_
It's not a bad thing to be challenged on a hot Tuesday evening!! Good CPD :-) @hollyflintoff #OTalk https://t.co/560seTzn1Y
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Isn't that what makes it so interesting and important for us to understand? Dare I say it but perhaps we do sometimes administer assessments without thinking this through properly @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/PZlRpk4AFz
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: It's not a bad thing to be challenged on a hot Tuesday evening!! Good CPD :-) @hollyflintoff #OTalk https://t.co/560seTzn1Y
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ @hollyflintoff Nothing compared to Los Angeles though. I think we will be at around 40 Celsius by week’s end! #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Good comment @LynneGoodacre #OTalk https://t.co/coW3aIH4QF
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I would imagine it’s because you would need to know what u think u know before u use an assessment tool? Does that make sense? #otalk
Claire F @clairelfairy
RT @alisonlaverfaw: 2nd question Why is face validity important to study when developing or selecting occupational therapy assessments and…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: Isn't that what makes it so interesting and important for us to understand? Dare I say it but perhaps we do sometimes a…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@preston_jenny @alisonlaverfaw Or sometimes we do so much that we go on auto pilot! #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I wonder how often we are familiar with how a measure was developed in the first place, or do we just loook at the questions and decide if they look right or not? #OTalk
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@hollyflintoff @OTalk_ @colourful_ot #OTalk it is complicated but maybe helpful to think in terms of decision making? Part of how you choose how to assess & what measures you use? It is subjective because so many things could be considered
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@DrWMB OK so now I can not get those images out of my head. Thanks #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
One problem with standardised test is when people are experiencing stress during the assessment, they may not perform to the best of their ability. Do we really understand if our clients find OT tests stressful? #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Good point Lynne #otalk https://t.co/TNcQROs7YF
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
@BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw That’s also very true #OTalk
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Outcome measures are interesting, as a clinican I was asked to use them to prove my own worth, as an academic I encourage thier use to help develop evidence. I suppose it depends on why and what you are measuring @#OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@hollyflintoff @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw For sure- sure every patient in my setting might be assessed with one assessment. But then I think about what else might be appropriate during their plan of care (given I can keep track of their progress). #otalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@alisonlaverfaw I feel like this is my go-to answer to at least one #OTalk question per week but... client-centredness? If the assessment isn't measuring what the client/participant/person being assessed thinks it should be, we won't have the right priorities #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Outcome measures are interesting, as a clinican I was asked to use them to prove my own…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: One problem with standardised test is when people are experiencing stress during the assessment, they may not perform t…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Outcome measures are interesting, as a clinican I was asked to use them to prove my own…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Makes perfect sense to me @hollyflintoff #OTalk https://t.co/bjAkB7B4hA
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
3rd question When selecting an outcome measure for research how could you consider face validity?#OTalk
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Yes like a multi-pronged attack-as it were #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw And another one could be- how well do the patients really fit certain scoring criteria? #otalk
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@Helen_OTUK Sorry I’ve moved on to Harry Potter when he first gets measured for a wand: all sorts of strange measurements, funny because they lack face validity #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @LynneGoodacre: When I started using outcomes the measures were developed on the basis of what health prof. Thought it was important to…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@hollyflintoff @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Yeah- unfortunately for me is not always a given because I get my workplaces change so much! #otalk
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@LynneGoodacre Or at times are they foisted on us from a management perspective? #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
This is a really good point. It's sometimes good to be on the 'receiving end' of a test in order to experience how it feels to complete it! @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/ERsBXFXNwI
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
This is often a rationale for using non standardised assessment @DrWMB sometimes decisions need to be made if we are to collect reliable data #OTalk https://t.co/fsDKC8fPHF
Rach_OT @RachelOT7
RT @LynneGoodacre: I wonder how often we are familiar with how a measure was developed in the first place, or do we just loook at the quest…
OTalk @OTalk_
Q3 from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/y8Z50XaEgf
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OTalk_: This is a really good point. It's sometimes good to be on the 'receiving end' of a test in order to experience how it feels to…
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Outcome measures are interesting, as a clinican I was asked to use them to prove my own…
Rach_OT @RachelOT7
RT @LynneGoodacre: I guess I always go with does the measure actually measure what it’s meant to measure #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
I totally agree @LynneGoodacre. That was one of the best things about completing my PhD, I really got to grips with the preferred assessment in a way that I had never considered fully in clinical practice @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/c6rbYDgFHx
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@alisonlaverfaw Resonated with non standardised assements too... it can be perceived as a power issue with the ‘uniforms’ holding the knowledge and therefore the power rather than collaborative #OTalk
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@DrWMB Nope, sorry you lost me at Harry Potter... I have no reference point, Andy Warhol in the other hand. #OTalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ @hollyflintoff True, though in this part of the world we're not set up for heat the way LA would be (e.g. nobody has air conditioning!) so we have a harder time even at a lower temperature! (I notice the same difference between 30C here and 40C where my relatives live in Spain :P ) #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @colourful_ot: @alisonlaverfaw I feel like this is my go-to answer to at least one #OTalk question per week but... client-centredness? I…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I had that experience with the COPM and the Allen Cognitive Level screen. The ACLS exposed some of my “weaknesses”... lol! #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @hollyflintoff @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw For sure- sure every patient in my setting might be assessed with one assessment. Bu…
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @OTalk_: Q3 from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/y8Z50XaEgf
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Outcome measures are interesting, as a clinican I was asked to use them to prove my own…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Does it measure what you are trying to assess with the population and relevant health condition #otalk @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ https://t.co/OQd3Lxz1g1
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Isn't that the danger @BillWongOT that we use assessments determined by the setting and not by the client's needs @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/hPmuSb964B
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
RT @colourful_ot: @alisonlaverfaw I feel like this is my go-to answer to at least one #OTalk question per week but... client-centredness? I…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
But do you think we do the same in routine practice #OTalk https://t.co/PDrnX35E17
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk some of the general health questionnaires are so general, it’s difficult to answer. Other more specific tests are stressful if the implications are not discussed?
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @DrWMB: @Helen_OTUK Sorry I’ve moved on to Harry Potter when he first gets measured for a wand: all sorts of strange measurements, funny…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @alisonlaverfaw: One problem with standardised test is when people are experiencing stress during the assessment, they may not perform t…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: This is a really good point. It's sometimes good to be on the 'receiving end' of a test in order to experience how it feels to…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: This is often a rationale for using non standardised assessment @DrWMB sometimes decisions need to be made if we are to…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: I totally agree @LynneGoodacre. That was one of the best things about completing my PhD, I really got to grips with the…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I had that experience with the COPM and the Allen Cognitive Level screen. The ACLS exposed some of…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Great points Wendy @DrWMB #otalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/1uvEijmb4N
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Just joined the discussion #OTalk - I can see the point of using standardised assessments in research, but in ordinary clinical practice you need assessments and outcomes to relate far more to the individual than standardisation often allow.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@preston_jenny @alisonlaverfaw Classic case will be peds for sure. We look at age and what skills we might want to assess. Then we think about the assessment. #otalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Totally accept that some assessments are stressful but skilled therapists should be able to help with this and talking about the outcome is more about the therapist than the test #OTAlk https://t.co/UazQziPsbd
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Not routinely in my experience @LynneGoodacre but definitely something we need to encourage @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/YmeR7c1zVi
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
I conducted my first face validity study around 1991 when I was undertaking a project to develop, standardise and evaluate the psychometric properties of an assessment, the Structured Observational Test of Function (SOTOF), #OTalk found little guidance on method in literature
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: Isn't that the danger @BillWongOT that we use assessments determined by the setting and not by the client's needs @aliso
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @DrWMB: @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk some of the general health questionnaires are so general, it’s difficult to answer. Other more sp…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @shirleypearceot: @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Just joined the discussion #OTalk - I can see the point of using standardised assessments in res…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@DrWMB @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I once had a 500+ question personality test during my neurological testing. That is overwhelming when they throw one test after another... and this test is only one of them! #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: Totally accept that some assessments are stressful but skilled therapists should be able to help with this and talking a…
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw Thanks. I’m remembering some of the cognitive & perceptual tests I used in practice: I’m not sure it was that easy to explain #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @preston_jenny: Isn't that the danger @BillWongOT that we use assessments determined by the setting and not by the client's needs @aliso
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Also if the correct assessment is being used and the client understands the rationale for this then it helps eliminate some of the stress @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/7zfvgloaGo
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I conducted my first face validity study around 1991 when I was undertaking a project to develop, standardise and evalu…
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I have a different relationship with the Sensory Profile than other assessments because it's one that I completed myself with an OT when I was dealing with anxiety so I feel like I know it from the other side! #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: I conducted my first face validity study around 1991 when I was undertaking a project to develop, standardise and evalu…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: Not routinely in my experience @LynneGoodacre but definitely something we need to encourage @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
It’s hard to find standard assessments that ask every question we want to ask but that doesn’t mean we can use them as a component of assessment and ask other questions #OTAlk https://t.co/SQNgb6hEhm
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @shirleypearceot: @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Just joined the discussion #OTalk - I can see the point of using standardised assessments in res…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
In addition to stress, feeling an assessments irrelevant or boring or contrived can impact a person’s performance on the assessment and this then can make the results less reliable - it can also impact our rapport and therapeutic relationship #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
@chrisbowdenOT @alisonlaverfaw Don't forget the #OTalk @chrisbowdenOT
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @DrWMB @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I once had a 500+ question personality test during my neurological testing. That is overwhel…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @DrWMB: @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw Thanks. I’m remembering some of the cognitive & perceptual tests I used in practice: I’m not sure it…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Do you think we have made much progress since then @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/yJMYRcaxck
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Love this comment @preston_jenny sums up the issue for me in practice and research #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/A9zs9x2jAy
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I’m doing repeated measures in the drug trial I’m on. They are so familiar now. I grit my teeth. Don’t like the questions but believe in the trial! #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Question 4: #OTalk Have you ever undertaken research to evaluate the face validity of an assessment or outcome measure? How did you do this?
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
When I was developing an outcome we conducted a lot of qual research with clients first over many months to make sure we were asking questions important to them #OTalk and refining them down with client input
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw The ACLS was hard for me already when the OT did it on me. In the administrator position, my poor praxis made it even harder! #otalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LynneGoodacre: When I was developing an outcome we conducted a lot of qual research with clients first over many months to make sure we…
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@preston_jenny @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Hmm... There maybe something in that, how do we as clinicians 'really get to grips' without doing a PhD? Or does it require PhD study too achieve this? If so how can the clinician access? Post grad modules? #OTalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB The placement I just finished showed me the pros and cons of standardised testing - they were very useful in terms of presenting clear scores and percentiles to parents but there also seemed to be so many situations where the assessment didn't show the true picture #OTalk
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@LynneGoodacre Agree - we shouldn't get so standardised that we can't see what's most important to the individual #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
@preston_jenny #OTalk Unfortunately not! when writing about validity for my text book I found there was still a lack of face validity studies published, not just in occupational therapy but also wider allied health assessment literature
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Question 4: #OTalk Have you ever undertaken research to evaluate the face validity of an assessment or outcome measure…
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw That’s a really good point but hard for the novice therapist.. I vividly remember explaining (probably very badly) as a new basic grade that Home assessments where not tests, with my elderly client asking me , how is it not when my discharge relies on it? #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: @preston_jenny #OTalk Unfortunately not! when writing about validity for my text book I found there was still a lack of…
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@alisonlaverfaw Maybe one problem is with one-off use? Face validity could change with familiarity & time to understand why the test is needed? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Helen_OTUK @preston_jenny @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw Good question- I think we need flexible options for clinicians. Not everyone have means and/or desires to go for doctorates. #otalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Good point @Helen_OTUK #OTalk https://t.co/WLtJxqvVHh
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Don’t need a PhD but do need to get curious about how we’re the questions in this outcome developed. It will all e in the early literature #OTalk https://t.co/EExud3Tobh
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @DrWMB: @alisonlaverfaw Maybe one problem is with one-off use? Face validity could change with familiarity & time to understand why the…
OTalk @OTalk_
Q4 from @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/JBvRXyYBsF
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@Els_OT @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Quite #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw I see that with the trails making test. Familiarity with the assessment- patient might remember where each dot is! Hence faster completion time! #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Not at all @Helen_OTUK it doesn't require a PhD, it just gave me the luxury of having time to really understand the assessment before I used it. Do we always read the chapters on the development of the tool ... I wonder 🤔#OTalk https://t.co/nBwqAFwQrk
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
TopTip... #OTalk https://t.co/RcjhFKbA4p
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LynneGoodacre: Don’t need a PhD but do need to get curious about how we’re the questions in this outcome developed. It will all e in th…
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw That’s a really good point but hard for the novice therapist.. I vividly remember explai…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LynneGoodacre: Don’t need a PhD but do need to get curious about how we’re the questions in this outcome developed. It will all e in th…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Is this a plea for more research in this area? @alisonlaverfaw #Otalk https://t.co/CCHrWITkr1
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@Els_OT @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre Yes so true & not often considered. When you look closely very few are truly standardised. #OTalk
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
@Helen_OTUK Sorry about misspelling football getting a bit tense! It will be in the early literature #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Are you multitasking tonight @LynneGoodacre ?! #OTalk https://t.co/Az9R6PGjSf
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw But the fact they keep doing it means face validity is good? #OTalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw I suppose that's where face validity overlaps with other things like test-retest reliability #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @dianecox61: Love this comment @preston_jenny sums up the issue for me in practice and research #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/A9zs…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Me too but can’t watch so upstairs to listen #OTalk https://t.co/QkXJmv7QPV
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Working in the memory clinic I noticed that some patients would gradually perform better and better in MMSE & MOCA over time while their abilities at home and in our therapeutic group activities steadily declined. #OTalk
Eden Marrison @edenmarrison94
@alisonlaverfaw I am currently undertaking a MRes doing a face validity study on the SOTOF with patients with neurological deficit. I am using a semi-structured interview to establish their perceptions / feelings about completing the test #OTalk
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
@preston_jenny Yes, I think that it what I was leaning to, 'luxury of time' which is what made me think maybe Post grad modules, courses, action groups, study group... Way to 'make time'. #OTalk
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw It interests me in relation to participatory research, especially for scoping out a problem or issue. But I’ve never done it. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @colourful_ot: @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB The placement I just finished showed me the pros and cons of standardised testing…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw That’s a really good point but hard for the novice therapist.. I vividly remember explai…
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Sorry I'm going off at a tangent - that's more about test-retest than face validity. #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw I see that with the trails making test. Familiarity with the assessment- patient might remember wher…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @DrWMB: @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw It interests me in relation to participatory research, especially for scoping out a problem or issue. Bu…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @edenmarrison94: @alisonlaverfaw I am currently undertaking a MRes doing a face validity study on the SOTOF with patients with neurologi…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Is there football on tonight ... only kidding, it's not being screened here in Scotland!! #Otalk https://t.co/6W3NedNPwm
OTalk @OTalk_
This is interesting @shirleypearceot Perhaps demonstrates the value of functional assessment? #OTalk https://t.co/izwTHQTiZz
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
@colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB So is it about being able to contextualise the results to see the whole picture? #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Isn't that a whole different aspect of validity and learned responses? #Otalk https://t.co/SSJeoaFPH6
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
I haven’t but it was done in rheumatology and led to the development of several PROMS which were much more client focused and emphasised the importance of assessing fatigue as well as pain #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
We have used qualitative methods such as semi structured interviews with clients after they have undertaken an assessment and asked about their experience of the assessment, what they thought the purpose was #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @shirleypearceot: @BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Working in the memory clinic I noticed that some patients would gradually perform b…
OTalk @OTalk_
We are within our last 10 minutes of chat now #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: We have used qualitative methods such as semi structured interviews with clients after they have undertaken an assessme…
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @LynneGoodacre: I haven’t but it was done in rheumatology and led to the development of several PROMS which were much more client focuse…
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw That’s a really good point but hard for the novice therapist.. I vividly remember explai…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
https://t.co/TMCYnP3KNJ info on test retest reliability, and validity, etc. #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
A good model to follow highlighted here by @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/R2JCL76zp7
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Interesting so if face validity was established in the initial development & then such qual work says something different which is right #OTalk https://t.co/HqVab2D1S7
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Last question: What methodologies can be used to explore and evaluate face validity? #OTalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Yes - that was actually some of the feedback that I got from my educator, that I need to improve my clinical reasoning to bring together the assessment results and all the other info I have in order to make the right decisions in practice #OTalk
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@OTalk_ It's hard to distinguish between the appropriateness of the test for the situation/person and whether it really tested what we were told it would do... #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
RT @BillWongOT: https://t.co/TMCYnP3KNJ info on test retest reliability, and validity, etc. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @DrWMB Now that there is app version of the trails making test. Perhaps it maybe a good idea to see if randomization of dots can help erase this type of concern... though that can be another study in itself. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
#OTalk https://t.co/NURYbjB2sw
OTalk @OTalk_
Last question from @alisonlaverfaw for our final 5 minutes of chat #OTalk https://t.co/RvxBdIrkYE
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @shirleypearceot: @OTalk_ It's hard to distinguish between the appropriateness of the test for the situation/person and whether it reall…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
This is an interesting approach @alisonlaverfaw was this as part of a research study or in practice? #Otalk https://t.co/4UBkNeBJ7F
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@julieannelowe1 @colourful_ot @alisonlaverfaw @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Yes probably - standardised tests need to be put in the context of the individual person/circumstances or the measures are just meaningless stats #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @preston_jenny: This is an interesting approach @alisonlaverfaw was this as part of a research study or in practice? #Otalk https://t.co…
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot But I guess it’s important not to use those test results in isolation? #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: Interesting so if face validity was established in the initial development & then such qual work says something differen…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB I think it is good to know all the possible ones that might work for the setting than you are in. Then you can pick and choose rather than going off by suggestions from colleagues. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk The COSMIN checklist manual (Mokkink et al., 2012: 31) stated that no standards were developed for assessing face validity because ‘face validity requires a subjective judgement’ - there is a lack of agreed standards for face validity studies
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@DrWMB @BillWongOT @alisonlaverfaw But too often that's exactly what happens when boxes have to be ticked #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot For sure. I don’t think I use that test only. Sometimes I also like to use my own gadgets (but by no means standardized assessments) to try to confirm my clinical reasonings. #otalk
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@alisonlaverfaw I can’t help thinking collaborative approaches would help, to draw conclusions from subjective views & build consensus #OTalk
Pam Watkins @PWtherapist
RT @julieannelowe1: @LynneGoodacre @alisonlaverfaw That’s a really good point but hard for the novice therapist.. I vividly remember explai…
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Of course I know that in theory, but I think it's easier when you're inexperienced to look at the standardised scores than to notice some of the more subtle things that you might need to observe or consider - it's an area where I'm still developing #OTalk
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@BillWongOT @colourful_ot @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB That would have been good but I was the most junior member of the team (the only Band 5) so I had to do as I was told - at least to start with #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@shirleypearceot @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Or in the case with the MBI- it is picking the most appropriate number for each particular item. Sometimes that can be guess work, though! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Of course I know that in theory, but I think it's…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @DrWMB: @alisonlaverfaw I can’t help thinking collaborative approaches would help, to draw conclusions from subjective views & build con…
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @DrWMB: @Els_OT @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre Yes so true & not often considered. When you look closely very few are truly standardise…
Shirley Pearce @shirleypearceot
@BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Like triangulation of results #OTalk
OTalk @OTalk_
Time is eluding us now folks. Any final thoughts before we close the chat? @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@shirleypearceot @colourful_ot @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB I think placements experiences (and now social media) can help anyone find out what assessments are appropriate to use in our respective settings. #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
That’s really interesting, has this work been published as I’d be keen to look at this for my own service? @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/0SWPhYkdR8
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@alisonlaverfaw That seems a cop out to me. It must be possible to demonstrate the processes that led the researchers to agree the test was worth designing & did what they meant it to? #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
#OTalk When seeking feedback from clients on their experience of a test it is preferable to have the client interviewed by a different therapist than the one who undertook the assessment as some clients find it difficult to provide negative feedback to the OT who has done test
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
@shirleypearceot @BillWongOT @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Yeah, that was my experience too; to be fair I never asked about using other assessments, but there were definitely a few assessments that we used every day and the only variation tended to be leaving out one of the assessments if we felt it wasn't relevant to the child #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
Thanks @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ @hooper_ek great #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@shirleypearceot @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw I have converted my iPad into a mini cognition assessment gadget. I sometimes would try out different games to see if they fit my work setting. #otalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @DrWMB: @alisonlaverfaw I can’t help thinking collaborative approaches would help, to draw conclusions from subjective views & build con…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Be curious and keeping asking are we asking the right questions in what we are assessing #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @colourful_ot: @julieannelowe1 @alisonlaverfaw @shirleypearceot @LynneGoodacre @DrWMB Of course I know that in theory, but I think it's…
Wendy Bryant @DrWMB
@OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Thanks I found this interesting to think about. Highlights importance of thoughtful practice and research #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @shirleypearceot: @BillWongOT @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw Like triangulation of results #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: Time is eluding us now folks. Any final thoughts before we close the chat? @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: That’s really interesting, has this work been published as I’d be keen to look at this for my own service? @alisonlaverf
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @preston_jenny: This is an interesting approach @alisonlaverfaw was this as part of a research study or in practice? #Otalk https://t.co…
Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre
Thanks @alisonlaverfaw good to think again about this important issue #OTalk
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk When seeking feedback from clients on their experience of a test it is preferable to have the client interviewed…
Elspeth LD OT @Els_OT
RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk When seeking feedback from clients on their experience of a test it is preferable to have the client interviewed…
OTalk @OTalk_
Thank you to @alisonlaverfaw for leading a stimulating chat tonight. The transcript will be posted in a few days. Thank you to all who have contributed this evening #OTalk
Carolina Cordero @colourful_ot
RT @LynneGoodacre: Be curious and keeping asking are we asking the right questions in what we are assessing #OTalk
Helen OTUK @Helen_OTUK
#OTalk thanks @alisonlaverfaw great topic. Lots to consider. Great job keeping us in order @hooper_ek off for a walk now it is cooler.
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Extremely thought provoking as always, thank you @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/Z1zTtZE0qX
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @dianecox61: Thanks @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ @hooper_ek great #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @BillWongOT: @shirleypearceot @DrWMB @alisonlaverfaw I have converted my iPad into a mini cognition assessment gadget. I sometimes would…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: Be curious and keeping asking are we asking the right questions in what we are assessing #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @DrWMB: @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Thanks I found this interesting to think about. Highlights importance of thoughtful practice and researc…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @LynneGoodacre: Thanks @alisonlaverfaw good to think again about this important issue #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @OTalk_: Thank you to @alisonlaverfaw for leading a stimulating chat tonight. The transcript will be posted in a few days. Thank you to…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @Helen_OTUK: #OTalk thanks @alisonlaverfaw great topic. Lots to consider. Great job keeping us in order @hooper_ek off for a walk now it…
OTalk @OTalk_
Good night all @hooper_ek signing off the @OTalk account now. Hope to chat with you all again soon!! #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thanks @alisonlaverfaw I’ll go take a look right now #OTalk https://t.co/ks2g0Vjl1x
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
Thanks @alisonlaverfaw , sorry I got a bit distracted with the ⚽️! Some great food for thought #OTalk https://t.co/es2ueCR0I2
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: Extremely thought provoking as always, thank you @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/Z1zTtZE0qX
Julie-Anne Lowe @julieannelowe1
RT @LynneGoodacre: Be curious and keeping asking are we asking the right questions in what we are assessing #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Some example questions to ask clients about OT assessments. What did you think this assessment was for? Were these assessment tasks things you would normally do?’ Did you mind being asked to do the assessment tasks?’#OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: Thanks @alisonlaverfaw I’ll go take a look right now #OTalk https://t.co/ks2g0Vjl1x
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @julieannelowe1: Thanks @alisonlaverfaw , sorry I got a bit distracted with the ⚽️! Some great food for thought #OTalk https://t.co/es2u…
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RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some example questions to ask clients about OT assessments. What did you think this assessment was for? Were these asse…
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
Thanks @alisonlaverfaw I need to do some reading over reserve again!! But thank u for your time tonight #otalk
Beverley Turtle @bevsaturtle
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some example questions to ask clients about OT assessments. What did you think this assessment was for? Were these asse…
Beverley Turtle @bevsaturtle
RT @LynneGoodacre: Be curious and keeping asking are we asking the right questions in what we are assessing #OTalk
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
@preston_jenny #OTalk Reference Laver-Fawcett A J, Brain L, Brodie C, Cardy L, Manaton L (2016) The Face Validity and Clinical Utility of the Activity Card Sort – United Kingdom (ACS-UK). British Journal of Occupational Therapy, 79(8) 492–504. doi:10.1177/0308022616629167.
Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some example questions to ask clients about OT assessments. What did you think this assessment was for? Were these asse…
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Now you are making me lazy! Much appreciated, thank you @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/ay608lQ95e
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RT @alisonlaverfaw: @preston_jenny #OTalk Reference Laver-Fawcett A J, Brain L, Brodie C, Cardy L, Manaton L (2016) The Face Validity and C…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
Some references that may be useful #OTalk Asher I.E. (2007) Occupational Therapy Assessment Tools: An annotated index. 3rd ed. Bethesda, American Occupational Therapy Association.
Clarissa @GeekyOT
Just finished evaluating our new modern #boardgames group. Great feedback! Excited to present it at #TheOTShow in November. #OTalk #OccupationalTherapy #mentalhealth #forensic @RCOT_MH https://t.co/yJ3XWY2qRL
Holly Flintoff @hollyflintoff
RT @alisonlaverfaw: Some references that may be useful #OTalk Asher I.E. (2007) Occupational Therapy Assessment Tools: An annotated index.…
Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw
RT @preston_jenny: Now you are making me lazy! Much appreciated, thank you @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/ay608lQ95e
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thanks @dianecox61, I’ll do that right now @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk https://t.co/vudGn8MpPk
Sarah Mercer @pd2ot
RT @GeekyOT: Just finished evaluating our new modern #boardgames group. Great feedback! Excited to present it at #TheOTShow in November. #O
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RT @GeekyOT: Just finished evaluating our new modern #boardgames group. Great feedback! Excited to present it at #TheOTShow in November. #O
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