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OTalk @OTalk_
Tonights #otalk will be starting shortly hosted by @MulryMary please tweet and let us know you're online, even if lurking! It's @GillyGorry on the account tonight. Please keep your code of ethics and professional conduct in mind and respect the views of others.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Hi peeps! #otalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@OTalk_ @MulryMary @GillyGorry Multi-tasking tonight between #OTalk and writing an essay! Looking forward to the topic - definitely something I'm keen to learn more about as a student.
Gemma P @gemOT18
@OTalk_ @MulryMary @GillyGorry I’ll be lurking & hope to contribute too #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary So you are talking about placements, I presume? #otalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@MulryMary What do you mean by alternative practice models? #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@BillWongOT @MulryMary I’ve never had experience of this before but can see its benefits for students #OTalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@OTalk_ @MulryMary @GillyGorry #otalk I'm here and very intersted in this one as its the topic of my MSc Advanced OT practice dissertation. Looking forward to hearing everyones views and experiences.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I once was in a placement with 3 OT’s sharing the load. #otalk
Gilly- does- Doing @GillyGorry
@MulryMary As a student I was supervised long are 2:1 and found it helped me feel more confident and less reliant on an educator. My buddy felt the opposite though, so I guess it depends on the student, educator and setting. #otalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary Hi everyone :), sorry Mary, what are the 3:1 and 2:1 models? #otalk
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RT @JayneSeagrave: @OTalk_ @MulryMary @GillyGorry #otalk I'm here and very intersted in this one as its the topic of my MSc Advanced OT pra…
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First question. #otalk https://t.co/2CvZxYLGqh
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I think having a variety of perspectives was great. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@GillyGorry @MulryMary Good point! Completely depends on students & their interests in the placement area of work #OTalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@MulryMary Have only ever experienced the traditional 1:1 - thinking about it, it has both pros and cons. Pros - educator dedicated time to student, continuity, confidence after meet and greet. Cons - experience and advice from 1 OT, in some settings may only see allocated clients #OTalk
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@clairefarrantot @MulryMary @GillyGorry Glad to have you lurking! Enjoy the family visit #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @beckycooper___: @MulryMary Have only ever experienced the traditional 1:1 - thinking about it, it has both pros and cons. Pros - educat…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gemOT18: @GillyGorry @MulryMary Good point! Completely depends on students & their interests in the placement area of work #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@beckycooper___ @MulryMary Yes- like in the setting I am in now, it is hard to get more than 1 perspective due to small caseload. #otalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
I was lucky enough to be given the opportunity to complete a contemporary placement, I worked alongside another student and we had long arm supervision from our practice educator. It worked really well as we were able to support each other! #OTalk https://t.co/ECCElAC2oY
Gilly- does- Doing @GillyGorry
@MulryMary For me it's very much like PBL, students are often resistant & it can be a challenge, but it can build resilience and independent critical thinking (when done right) for some it can knock confidence. How do we balance this? #otalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@BillWongOT @MulryMary That's what I was thinking - I had not particularly thought about practice models before as I have only experienced 1:1 so going to find tonight's chat particularly interesting now! #OTalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
#OTalk having major buffer face. Internet delaying replies so I'm going to have to sit this one out! Sorry.... The frustration is too much!
Gilly- does- Doing @GillyGorry
@BillWongOT I also had a placement where several OTs supported me through the placement and that was also great, enhanced learning because of the different perspectives and ways of mentoring #otalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@OTalk_ I'm a practice placement facilitator and some of our educators take 2 students (or more) but many still resist the idea. Those that do really see the benefits peer learning has to offer though #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @GillyGorry: @BillWongOT I also had a placement where several OTs supported me through the placement and that was also great, enhanced l…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@KimWillisOT Technological is great when it works but all too disheartening 😩when it goes wrong. Catch up with it afterwards I guess?! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JayneSeagrave: @OTalk_ I'm a practice placement facilitator and some of our educators take 2 students (or more) but many still resist t…
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary I recently had a first year student on a 7 week placement. Staffing was not great, so I found it difficult to give the student the full support that I would have liked. The thought of 2:1/3:1 when I think back to my recent experience, seems too much to manage 2 be honest. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ I want to take on more- but I think it would be counterproductive for me take on 2. #otalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@gemOT18 Seems OK atm, I may lurk as allowed and attempt participation! #OTalk
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Do you find educators are reluctant to take on more than one student? Do they get work place support to do this and keep up with work? #otalk https://t.co/MDockSFu4w
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ And then if there are placements going beyond 1 week- it won’t suit my personal schedule and it will make my other OT staff mad even if I was able. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@JayneSeagrave @OTalk_ Long time no see Jayne! I agree I probably would be resistant as to me it feels so new... would be happy to try it with the right support in my trust. Getting some ideas hopefully from tonight’s #OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary Also - the paperwork alone!! Don't get me wrong, I love having students, but it's challenging when there is a risk of not meeting all my red clinical priorities #otalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@GillyGorry @BillWongOT I agree, being on a 2:1 model encourages you to utilise the support of other occupational therapists and wider MDT, which was a great experience for me! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ I am not reluctant... just that the caseload I have was not allowing me to. #otalk
Amie Jayne @Amie_OT
@OTalk_ Just got back from my graduation, lurking late tonight because I would love to hear more about being an educator #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@otramblings @MulryMary It might be but in my area of work we have difficulties with hot desking, remote working and lack of IT equipment for students. Trying to think how we manage this? #OTalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@OTalk_ Our department takes multiple students and it has proved good peer support for the students. However students more likely to have more than one educator than a single educator having more than one student. #OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary @OTalk_ The tricky thing is, every student is different and may need a different approach from the PE. It may work well with the students who just 'get it' but it's the ones who need additional support and guidance. They may lose out with this kind of model #otalk
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RT @otramblings: @MulryMary Also - the paperwork alone!! Don't get me wrong, I love having students, but it's challenging when there is a r…
Lisa Brady @LisaMarcella_
@OTalk_ As a student I'd struggle with sharing a placement with other students, I think it would add to the pressure and it would be very difficult to avoid making comparisons with the performance of your peers. My experiences have also been that educators are busy enough! #otalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@Lucygordon83 @GillyGorry @BillWongOT Yes! Great for helping newer OTs get involved in education and support staff too. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@clairefarrantot @MulryMary @OTalk_ I think they were cohesive for the most part. But in my setting... I know my working style is a little different from my OTA. So it was a dynamic my students got to see. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@KimWillisOT @OTalk_ I agree this is more common for educators to share a student rather than one educator with 2 or more students #OTalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@LisaMarcella_ @OTalk_ Students we have within department mention good peer support having other colleagues around #OTalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@MulryMary Increased peer support in alternative models? I guess there could also be difficulties - if one student was having problems with the placement, the other student may find they are having less time with their educator as compared? #OTalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@OTalk_ I have met some fantastic educators who take on several students at a time and have demonstrated the benefits of this.... it would be wonderful to see more research into the benefits of this! And this may encourage more educators to take on more than one student 😊 #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary I think everyone has to be on the same page. If not, then the students will have a confusing experience. #otalk
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Question 2: #otalk https://t.co/eOffUQ4hSx
LD Occupational Therapist @CommunityLD_OT
@JayneSeagrave @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Having two at once is a scary thought! I'd like it if there were two people on placement but with me and another practice educator! #Otalk
Claire Farrant @clairefarrantot
@BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ That’s good, I shared a student a couple of years ago and made sure that we worked well together and whilst we worked differently we had a high level of respect for each other #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of desk space & community working ie needing to drive to visits. Benefits would be trying a new way of working, students supporting each other #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @OTalk_ For me, I want to, but my personal schedule made it difficult to take a student beyond a week! #otalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
RT @LisaMarcella_: @OTalk_ As a student I'd struggle with sharing a placement with other students, I think it would add to the pressure and…
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@otramblings @OTalk_ @MulryMary I agree there is student placement paperwork and then supervision time which could be time consuming, but it is really important for both the student and the educator so this could be a potential barrier #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gemOT18: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of de…
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@LisaMarcella_ @OTalk_ I think this is a really honest opinion and I feel the same! It would be very difficulty to not compare yourself to fellow students and worry that you may not be performing as well as you should be! I think there are definite benefits but cons shouldn't be understated #OTalk
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RT @gemOT18: @MulryMary Just said this but challenges are: practically having the right IT resources and managing agile working, lack of de…
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@CommunityLD_OT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ So 2:2? Some of our teams do this and it works great, especially were we work 7 day shift pattern or part time. And a lot less scary! #otalk
Amie Jayne @Amie_OT
@MulryMary I've never personally experienced these models but had peers who found 2:1 role emerging placements worked well because of the peer support #OTalk
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RT @clairefarrantot: @BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ That’s good, I shared a student a couple of years ago and made sure that we worked well…
Amie Jayne @Amie_OT
@MulryMary I would say the challenges would be the possibility of additional pressure placed on the educator for having multiple students #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @otramblings @OTalk_ @MulryMary And in my setting, it does hamstrung my building manager’s abilities to staff people for OT help. After all, she realize it is not fair for the student to bounce around at moments’ notice. #otalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I agree peer support is invaluable when working with other students and one educator. It would be helpful to set up a peer support and supervision groups for students on these placements! #OTalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@MulryMary Absolutely! But it may even be that one student flourishes in that placement setting and the other does not potentially creating negative relationships when discussing progress/grades/etc. Difficult to say without personal experience #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lucygordon83: @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I agree peer support is invaluable when working with other students and one educator. It…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @gemOT18 @MulryMary In my setting, it will be good for OT’s to bounce ideas around with one another whenever they have a chance to meet. #otalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary When I was on a 2:1 model on placement, myself and the other student shared car journeys and used this time for verbal reflections which was fantastic #OTalk
Amie Jayne @Amie_OT
@JayneSeagrave @CommunityLD_OT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Ive had multiple educators on placement due to part time working hours etc, I've felt it helped learning from two viewpoints :) #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lucygordon83: @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary When I was on a 2:1 model on placement, myself and the other student shared car journeys…
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For me this probably replicates the work place. Different people have different needs but we have to find a way to work together. Could be a challenge if both students have issues and only one educator, possibly more from the educators perspective? #otalk https://t.co/mES9VxmvxB
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @beckycooper___: @MulryMary Absolutely! But it may even be that one student flourishes in that placement setting and the other does not…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Amie_OT: @MulryMary I would say the challenges would be the possibility of additional pressure placed on the educator for having multip…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Amie_OT: @MulryMary I've never personally experienced these models but had peers who found 2:1 role emerging placements worked well bec…
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@LisaMarcella_ @OTalk_ I agree I felt this before on one of my placements. Although for me it depended on the educator, setting and the other student! Couldn’t have got thought my contemporary placement without a fellow student who was a great support! #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I remember being a newly qualified OT and gave a lift to a student and we had lots of informal supervision’s which helped both of us. But it was an informal arrangement which maybe was more comfortable #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OTalk_: For me this probably replicates the work place. Different people have different needs but we have to find a way to work togethe…
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
RT @Lucygordon83: @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I agree peer support is invaluable when working with other students and one educator. It…
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@Lucygordon83 @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @MulryMary We recently had an educator do 4:1 (I know!) and we did this. Me and another Practice placement facilitator did extra group supervision sessions for the 4 students which gave the educator time for her paperwork. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @gemOT18: @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary I remember being a newly qualified OT and gave a lift to a student and we had lots of inf…
Gemma P @gemOT18
@JayneSeagrave @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary Well that educator is a hero! #OTalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@Amie_OT @MulryMary This model definitely worked well for my role emerging contempt placement with @CathyARoberts peer support was essential! #otalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary Pros: peer support, addresses the issue of too many students and not enough placements. Cons: paperwork time, supervision time (students will still need separate times to address their own needs), Students will also need to be shadowed to carry out Ax/interv individually #otalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@OTalk_ Definitely one of the many benefits of a workplace to have differing opinions/ways of working/ideas to work together, just thinking of the possible feelings of either student and how this could effect their placement going forward? Would be difficult to not compare selves #OTalk
Lisa Brady @LisaMarcella_
@beckycooper___ @OTalk_ I think it would truly jeapordise progress for students with additional needs who already compare themselves and need extra support from educators too. I couldn't have gotten through my last placement without a lot of support! #otalk
Kate Tudor @OT_KateT
@gemOT18 @KimWillisOT @OTalk_ I think that's got a lot to do with educators struggling to let go of the idea that a student needs to be 'with' a named person every day. Being part time has helped me see the benefit of giving students more responsibility to fill and use their own time #OTalk
Amie Jayne @Amie_OT
@gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary On placements i always valued working with the newly qualified band 5 occupational therapists as i learnt so much from them and it felt less daunting at times than talking to my educator #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @otramblings: @MulryMary Pros: peer support, addresses the issue of too many students and not enough placements. Cons: paperwork time, s…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @beckycooper___: @OTalk_ Definitely one of the many benefits of a workplace to have differing opinions/ways of working/ideas to work tog…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LisaMarcella_: @beckycooper___ @OTalk_ I think it would truly jeapordise progress for students with additional needs who already compar…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OT_KateT: @gemOT18 @KimWillisOT @OTalk_ I think that's got a lot to do with educators struggling to let go of the idea that a student n…
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
RT @LisaMarcella_: @beckycooper___ @OTalk_ I think it would truly jeapordise progress for students with additional needs who already compar…
Maureen Shiells @MMShiells
@mollharrisOT @LisaMarcella_ @OTalk_ Hello from me for the first time this evening! Learning is evolving, pressures on the workplace which you have identified means that we all need to think about solutions and new ways of learning. There are loads of tools to help #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@otramblings @MulryMary In my setting, we actually had an article that having students doesn’t have too much impact on overall productivity. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Amie_OT: @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @BillWongOT @MulryMary On placements i always valued working with the newly qualified band 5 occupation…
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@LisaMarcella_ @beckycooper___ @OTalk_ Yes this is a good point!It could potentially put more pressure on another student when it comes to discussing grades. My experience having another student there was brilliant I gained a different perspective&learnt a lot about myself as a team player&had the peer support #OTalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
@MulryMary Helps the university find placements but cones with issues #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
https://t.co/SSvwHIifXM here is the AJOT article on placement students and productivity. #otalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@BillWongOT @MulryMary Sorry to sound so negative but having students is a lot of work. I like to be person centred and I like to get to know my students and support as they need. I find it would be so difficult to do this with 2:1/3:1 models. #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@otramblings @MulryMary Also I am the only OT in an MDT so plenty of opportunity for finding out about other professions for students... I wonder in a team with more OTs if having more students is easier? #OTalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
#otalk Agreed. All placements ought to be a team approach, and probably are but people dont realise it. To have more students, eds need to give them their caseload too, not try and keep up with 'normal' caseload on top of having the students. https://t.co/p7MmqNHaqy
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
Wasn't easy but at least I tried #OTalk https://t.co/0vFPkZckW2
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@otramblings @MulryMary You should write a comment to the article I just shared. #otalk
Sara Rogers @SaraOT1980
@JayneSeagrave @BillWongOT @OTalk_ I had 2 educators on my final placement and found it so useful. In fact the whole team ended up supporting me throughout. It was great to be able to learn from team members with different areas of knowledge. #OTalk
Marie Band @MJBan1971
RT @Lucygordon83: I was lucky enough to be given the opportunity to complete a contemporary placement, I worked alongside another student a…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary @otramblings And I know for me, I just planned my first placement student’s experience in 20-30 minutes only! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @SaraOT1980: @JayneSeagrave @BillWongOT @OTalk_ I had 2 educators on my final placement and found it so useful. In fact the whole team e…
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
This works well if you both have planned annual leave #Otalk https://t.co/VlQSkeEU0G
Minh Tran @otramblings
@BillWongOT @MulryMary Is it on your twitter page? I missed it! Would love to read!! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@otramblings @MulryMary Check the hashtag. I just shared it after your reply. #otalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
RT @BillWongOT: https://t.co/SSvwHIifXM here is the AJOT article on placement students and productivity. #otalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
We often share induction training sessions to make efficient use of our time when several OT students start around the same time #Otalk @TheRetreatYork https://t.co/3a1W9a0WDk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@MulryMary @OTalk_ Clear guidelines and expectations and efficient support from universities for educators and students! #otalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
#otalk pleased I managed to login tonight 😊
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @mollharrisOT: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Clear guidelines and expectations and efficient support from universities for educators and students!…
Lisa Brady @LisaMarcella_
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I think a stronger role of the link lecturer/ visiting tutor from the university would be needed to fill some gaps that the educator may not be able to provide support wise #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@mollharrisOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ Well- all I had to go on when planning for my student was my past experiences. I think such were good foundations to build from too. #otalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
I find a pre-placement visit helps with planning #Otalk https://t.co/K9DzNwvzhE
Claire Farrant @clairefarrantot
@gemOT18 @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @MulryMary I hated being watched so for me as a student I always felt less pressure and therefore performed better when working with other (often more jnr) therapists. I try to give my students that opportunity now #OTalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@JoyceInYork @TheRetreatYork Our placement co-ordinator does the same in our trust which is v helpful. Also organises other training & peer support #OTalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@JoyceInYork Definitely! I think a pre placement visit is essential! #otalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
RT @gemOT18: @JoyceInYork @TheRetreatYork Our placement co-ordinator does the same in our trust which is v helpful. Also organises other tr…
Maureen Shiells @MMShiells
@JayneSeagrave Another view; not everyone has the right skill set to be a practice educator, but everyone can make a contribution. Perhaps those less skilled people can take an extra patient or two and lighten the caseload for the educator? #otalk
Becky Cooper @beckycooper___
@MulryMary @OTalk_ Ongoing link work with universities, ensuring there are clear boundaries with time allocated to each student, equal experiences and opportunities and encouragement of peer support #OTalk
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RT @mollharrisOT: @JoyceInYork Definitely! I think a pre placement visit is essential! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@clairefarrantot @gemOT18 @Lucygordon83 @MulryMary I felt the same way. But I have to convince myself that I need to be braver... especially since that there is an immense shortage for placements. #otalk
Claire Farrant @clairefarrantot
@MulryMary @OTalk_ The support of the rest of the team (MDT not just OTs) to work with students when you need to spend 1:1 time or are off. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @beckycooper___: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Ongoing link work with universities, ensuring there are clear boundaries with time allocated to each…
Teresa rushton @teresa_rushton
@MulryMary @OTalk_ We have provided additional support from the university for students and educators and evaluate the experiences from the student and educator perspective to improve practice where possible #OTalk @CovUniOT
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@beckycooper___ @MulryMary @OTalk_ Since I go to so many conferences, my odds of meeting academic placement educators are very high. So I use those opportunities to debrief when I see them. #otalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I think uni's could cover how to facilitate peer learning models during new educator courses and students the same in their prep for practice lectures. That way it will become embeded as a 'normal' option in the way 1:1 is now. #otalk
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@MulryMary I think clear expectations, boundaries and guidance for students and educators would be essential. Also students/ educators with additional needs would need a more bespoke approach? #otalk
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Last 10 minutes or so for #otalk @MulryMary
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 students #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@beckycooper___ @MulryMary @OTalk_ And our profession is so small, sometimes I work with academic placement educators on multiple levels- not just placements, but also association work. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @otramblings: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 student…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JayneSeagrave @MulryMary @OTalk_ In the US, we have such options. But sometimes taking a day off just to attend such workshops might not be feasible. #otalk
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RT @otramblings: @MulryMary @OTalk_ Revise paperwork, support from workplace, PE forums to share their ideas/tips to manage 2:1/3:1 student…
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT Yes this is very true! When I went to my pre placement meeting I met my educator and the other student and we set clear expectations and discussed any worries we had! #OTalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
RT @clairefarrantot: @gemOT18 @BillWongOT @Lucygordon83 @MulryMary I hated being watched so for me as a student I always felt less pressure…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Lucygordon83: @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT Yes this is very true! When I went to my pre placement meeting I met my educator and the othe…
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
RT @Lucygordon83: @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT Yes this is very true! When I went to my pre placement meeting I met my educator and the othe…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT For me, I email my student as soon as I receive his/her contact info. #otalk
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Good question. I would, but I would want support from the Uni and within my organisation to ensure a good experience all round. #otalk https://t.co/LFYDw7dYW7
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MulryMary @OTalk_ If I could, I would. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT I agree contact beforehand is so important, even a phone call or email is good if a visit isn’t possible #OTalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@otramblings @BillWongOT @MulryMary @OTalk_ Pre placement meetings to set expectations and reassure all involved, regular supervisions (one to one and group), peer support sessions and tutorials for students #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @otramblings @MulryMary @OTalk_ I want to... but sometimes that is hard if student lives a good ways away from me. So email/phone call before the placement will have to do. #otalk
Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork
@OTalk_ Might reduce the feeling of competition between students and enable training opportunities from the more experienced student #Otalk but a challenge to keep track
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Lucygordon83 @JoyceInYork @mollharrisOT Amongst the many hats I am also wearing... lol! #otalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@MulryMary @OTalk_ Would have benefits having different levels, like a 'buddy' system. Could this prepare final year students to work towards becoming an educator when qualified? #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I have to be honest I’m not sure I would be able to have students of different levels of their training- too many variables! But students if same level of training is more feasible #OTalk
Teresa rushton @teresa_rushton
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I think this offers great opportunities for peer teaching too #OTalk @CovUniOT
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Wowzers that hour went so fast! Don't worry if continue to chat, we won't get the transcript until tomorrow. Great chat @MulryMary . #otalk
Kim Willis @KimWillisOT
@gemOT18 @MulryMary @OTalk_ I agree! #OTalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
What i find interesting is that there is a lot of research that supports the use of 2:1 and 3:1 models from early 2000's, and yet 1:1 is still predominant and many eds dont realise peer models are an option. #otalk
Gemma P @gemOT18
@OTalk_ @MulryMary This chat has encouraged me to keep an open mind and further the future of practice placements #OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary @OTalk_ I would consider supporting students of various levels - I agree with Jayne. Benefits for final/2nd year would be through concept of learning better through teaching and benefit for 1st year would be 'less scary' learning/asking qus from student rather than PE. #otalk
Dawn Scull @DawnScull
@mollharrisOT @OTalk_ @JoyceInYork Agree absolutely #OTalk
Minh Tran @otramblings
@MulryMary Thanks for hosting! Really useful topic and has definitely challenged my views for the better! #OTalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
What a fantastic #OTalk tonight @MulryMary really enjoyed hearing about everyone’s experiences and advice about the 2:1, 3:1 and even 4:1 model of practice placement! Although I am newly qualified this is something I will definitely consider in the future when I have students! ✨ https://t.co/Da5MdhJThN
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
@gemOT18 @OTalk_ @MulryMary That's great Gem. 😊 #otalk
Jayne Seagrave @JayneSeagrave
Great #otalk tonight, so useful to see everyones perspectives 😀
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