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Jade @JadeH_OT
Ran in from the garden (its a mammoth task) just in time for #OTalk !
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Hi all, @GeekyOT on the account tonight. welcome to this weeks #otalk hosted by @colourful_ot! Who’s out there? Say hi even if you’re lurking
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@MarieAskew_OT @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi Marie, welcome! If you do have anything you want to add, please use the #otalk hashtag so everyone can see your tweets
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@eveleenpower @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi there, welcome! #otalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@OTalk_ @GeekyOT @colourful_ot #otalk Thank you!
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The first rule of #otalk: always use the hashtag, or you’ll end up on @GeekyOT’s naughty step (There’s only one ‘T’ in OTalk)
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@JHedgesStearn Glad you made it!! How’s your garden faring in this heat? #otalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@OTalk_ It clearly feels the same way I do in this heat, wilting 🤭but I've made way for a new bird bath, so I'm rather chuffed! Are you enjoying the weather? #OTalk
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@JHedgesStearn @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Brilliant! Welcome to #otalk :) don’t forget to include the hashtag in your tweets so everyone can see them
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Hello gang! #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Hi everyone! So my first question for this evening's chat is just to get a general idea of what sort of background everybody has in this area and what people's initial thoughts are #OTalk https://t.co/8j18aFKEyA
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@Janice_tige @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi Janice, good to have you here! Please use the #otalk hashtag so everyone can see your contributions:)
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@joannasmithOT @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hellooo 👋 #otalk
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@eveleenpower @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi eveleen, welcome! #otalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Hi everyone! Lurking from South Africa but will try to join in as I’m passionate about #play as an occupation #OTalk https://t.co/YWUKSX1iZW
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Q1 Do you have experience of setting therapy goals or measuring outcomes relating to children’s participation in play? #OTalk
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@BillWongOT Hi Bill! It’s great to have you here #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot When I was in my first job, I definitely had seen a goal like that in the school setting portion of it. #otalk
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@JHedgesStearn Wilting is a great description - matches how I feel perfectly (but sorry about your garden!) #otalk
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RT @colourful_ot: Hi everyone! So my first question for this evening's chat is just to get a general idea of what sort of background everyb…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JHedgesStearn @OTalk_ Weather here in Los Angeles is pretty close to 40 today. #otalk
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@LelanieBrewer Lekker to have you here :) welcome #otalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Have used GAS lite to measure specific #play goals set by the children I worked with #OTalk https://t.co/T6aidlMGji
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RT @colourful_ot: Q1 Do you have experience of setting therapy goals or measuring outcomes relating to children’s participation in play? #O
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
@OTalk_ Baie dankie/thank you very much #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@colourful_ot I have had a placement which worked with adults and children with LD and physical disabilities to encourage play, however haven't had much experience on measuring outcomes in a standardised sense.. for something so subjective I'd be interested to hear people's experiences! #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ @JHedgesStearn My parents’ house garden also had some suffering from our own heat wave a few weeks ago. We had blackout for almost 24 hours. 5 koi’s at the pond passed away as a result. Was quite a labor to dig them out. #otalk
Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83
@OTalk_ @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi I’m Lucy a newly qualified OT working in older adult mental health community 😊 #OTalk 👋🏻
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JHedgesStearn: @colourful_ot I have had a placement which worked with adults and children with LD and physical disabilities to encourag…
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT I'm very interested in school-based practice; it's not really a setting for OT in Ireland yet (except in specialised schools) but they're bringing in a pilot scheme to see how therapy services can be provided in schools so hopefully we'll see more of it in future #OTalk
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@Lucygordon83 @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Welcome, Lucy! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot In US, it is popular. We often have some licensing exam questions for school based practice. #otalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ I honestly don't know how I'd handle 30, let alone 40! However, I bet it is beautiful. My first move would be to invest in aircon! #Otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@LelanieBrewer Awesome! I actually have a later question planned about how involved children are in the goal-setting process so you're way ahead of me :P #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ I'm so sorry to hear that! The weather this Summer is quite something.. #Otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT To be honest I'm not sure why we don't have it here! The pilot project sounds very promising, at least https://t.co/jE1KddHLcZ #OTalk
Khalilah R. Johnson, PhD, OTR/L @OccScienceBae
@OTalk_ @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Here and lurking 😆 #OTalk
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@OccScienceBae @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Glad to have you here with us :) feel free to join in if the moment takes you! #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot I think it can help lots of children to help them be more engaged in their environments more positively. #otalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Children (like adults) are experts at knowing what they like & want to do 😀#play #Otalk https://t.co/kviyD5EIKb
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LelanieBrewer: Children (like adults) are experts at knowing what they like & want to do 😀#play #Otalk https://t.co/kviyD5EIKb
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Next question! Something I was wondering about after I read a paper on play in paediatric occupational therapy recently (see this week's blog post) #OTalk https://t.co/yvfmUMxwu0
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Q2 Do other occupations such as schoolwork and ADLs tend to take priority over play occupations in paediatric practice, and why? #OTalk
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RT @colourful_ot: Next question! Something I was wondering about after I read a paper on play in paediatric occupational therapy recently (…
Sophie Roberts @sophierobertsOT
@OTalk_ @GeekyOT @colourful_ot Hi! 👋I'm Sophie - a community Paediatric Occupational Therapist, working in a disabled children's team in Social Care in Cornwall💚 #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@LelanieBrewer Totally agree! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot In school based in US, handwriting is pretty common. Some school based OT’s will attend workshops on Handwriting Without Tears program. #otalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
I think it does sometimes but actually it is all interlinked e.g. think of dressing up #play for example - you need functional ADL skills for this kind of play #OTalk https://t.co/Aq6BeL9AYU
Cara Lawrence @caralawrence
@colourful_ot Not a paediatric OT but when I was at school all extra stuff for my handwriting always were in the fun lessons that I enjoyed. So important to include fun things #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT Yes, on the placement I just finished (primary care, clinic-based) handwriting was the number one priority! Very important skill but I wonder how meaningful it is to the children themselves? #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@colourful_ot Again talking from my previous placement, I found quite the opposite, play was very much prioritised as was ADLs - after all, 'play is the childs work' and they learn so much from play! This was working in a school for children with complex needs #Otalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot #otalk this might be naïve and is certainly not based on any thing other than a thught in my head but I wondered if its the case that play is less tangible than other 'skills' and is a complex learning process rather than a skill as such- its hard to think where to begin?!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot I think it depends on each child. In US, until age 14 at minimum, plans are basically collaboration between parents, therapists, and/or school staff. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JHedgesStearn: @colourful_ot Again talking from my previous placement, I found quite the opposite, play was very much prioritised as wa…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JHedgesStearn @colourful_ot At clinic based setting, sometimes I also see feeding being addressed, especially for picky eaters. #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@JHedgesStearn Very interesting! While preparing for this chat I was wondering how people's experiences in different settings/with different populations could vary; my paeds experience was mostly with children who had difficulty with handwriting and coordination #OTalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@colourful_ot Bit late for #OTalk tonight! I’m a newly qualified occupational therapist working in children’s integrated therapies, I have have used GAS, mainly when setting goals in relation to participation in activities of daily living rather than play
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@mollharrisOT @colourful_ot Better late than never! :) glad you could join us #otalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@MarieAskew_OT @colourful_ot You're so right!I think faciltate/encourage play and promote parents to facilitate. Research supports co-occupation and attachment through play and also enabling healthy risk (which often children w/ disabilities may be protected from comp to other children) to develop #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JHedgesStearn: @MarieAskew_OT @colourful_ot You're so right!I think faciltate/encourage play and promote parents to facilitate. Researc…
Jade @JadeH_OT
@MarieAskew_OT @colourful_ot How do I fit everything into such a small word count haha! Sorry if that made no sense, I cut it down a hundred times! #Otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@MarieAskew_OT That's a good point! Kind of ties in with my next question - how do we determine whether a child is "good at" playing or quantify how much difficulty they have with it? Really complex! #OTalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@colourful_ot @BillWongOT In my current service handwriting and fine motor skills appear to be the biggest priority to parents but not to all children! #OTalk
Sammy Randall @SammyRandallOT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ Sometimes.Maybe because play can be supported by other professionals other than OT, whereas other ADL areas not? #OTalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Third question! Assessments have already come up in the discussion - looking forward to hearing more about what people think #OTalk https://t.co/eXO4EHKtp3
Charlotte Betteridge @CharlOTte_Paeds
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ I work on an acute paeds oncology unit and we definitely prioritise play and meaningful activities, all based around patient led goal setting, even if it is getting to the local paperchase shop 🙌 #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@colourful_ot This was something that was talked about at Uni, however the children I worked with had more complex needs, and alongside play looked at specialist seating/equipment to promote engagement with peers and engage in classroom activities that were meaningful to them #Otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Q3 Can children’s play be accurately assessed using play assessments (e.g. the Play Observation Scale) and should these be more widely used? #OTalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@JHedgesStearn @colourful_ot #otalk Thanks! I can see how encouraging attachment through play/enabling healthy risk would support laying the foundations for further play development
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@mollharrisOT @colourful_ot I think it is important to parents because many may view being mainstreamed is an important goal for their kids to accomplish. Kids- may not see it that way. #otalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@BillWongOT @colourful_ot Yes! We did alot of this actually, alongside Speech and Language Team. Do you work closely with them? #Otalk
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
For me it’s about #play being meaningful, interesting and enjoyable to the child. If we get that right we’ve nailed it and that would count as success for the child regardless of the activity #OTalk https://t.co/vDZvsQ7wtI
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RT @colourful_ot: Third question! Assessments have already come up in the discussion - looking forward to hearing more about what people th…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot Since recess is an important time of day for children in school, I will say yes... and that can be a natural setting for observations and assessments. #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
RT @LelanieBrewer: For me it’s about #play being meaningful, interesting and enjoyable to the child. If we get that right we’ve nailed it a…
Jade @JadeH_OT
@MarieAskew_OT @colourful_ot Also great for developing personality, discovering likes/dislikes, choice, phsyical development and socialisation (the list goes on and on)! Why we should all play :) #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JHedgesStearn @colourful_ot Not any more because I work with the elderly. But I have seen that addressed a few times in my placement and my first job. #otalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@BillWongOT @colourful_ot I see! Do you promote play within the elderly? #Otalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@BillWongOT @colourful_ot Yes that’s very true, many parents view them as important to develop and meet milestones #OTalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot #otalk I haven't seen this assessment yet but I wondered how areas like imaginative play can be assessed and quantified?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @mollharrisOT: @BillWongOT @colourful_ot Yes that’s very true, many parents view them as important to develop and meet milestones #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@mollharrisOT @colourful_ot And in retrospect, I feel that if I were in specialized school as a kiddo, I don’t think I will be talking to you guys today. #otalk
Molly Harris @mollharrisOT
@colourful_ot I’ve not heard of that before but am interested to learn more about it! #OTalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@SammyRandallOT @OTalk_ I hadn't considered that! What other professionals are involved in play? (I can only think of play therapists right now but I'm sure there's more) #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JHedgesStearn @colourful_ot Well- sometimes, but that is the job of activities directors in my setting in US. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @SammyRandallOT @OTalk_ In US, speech therapist does help sometimes. #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@mollharrisOT Came across it in a book about OT and play - never seen it used in practice but thought the idea of an Ax. specific to play was intriguing #OTalk https://t.co/DwkG0CqT9V
Charlotte Betteridge @CharlOTte_Paeds
RT @LelanieBrewer: For me it’s about #play being meaningful, interesting and enjoyable to the child. If we get that right we’ve nailed it a…
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot #otalk and also how is a child's satisfaction with their play measured (particularly very young or cognitively challenged children)? I think play has quite a symbolic element to it- what we see on the outside may not be reflective of the creativity and learning going on inside?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @mollharrisOT https://t.co/529NSQERbf This is a preschool play scale for children. #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@MarieAskew_OT Yes, that's something that I wonder about too - I also think when measuring children's participation in play that we need to be careful not to be too strict about what the "right" type of play is, e.g. some children are happier playing alone and that's ok #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@colourful_ot @SammyRandallOT @OTalk_ Physiotherapists too! #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@JHedgesStearn @colourful_ot I don’t think so because we still have PE in secondary school... and play is often still important there. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @MarieAskew_OT: @colourful_ot #otalk and also how is a child's satisfaction with their play measured (particularly very young or cogniti…
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @mollharrisOT Thanks! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @MarieAskew_OT Or when I was young... sometimes NOT playing is better. But then you have to find out the reasons why in terms of lack of engagement. #otalk
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Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @MarieAskew_OT Yeah, important to look at what the child's getting out of the play (or not) rather than just what can be observed from the outside #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@MarieAskew_OT @colourful_ot Great point! #Otalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot #otalk not sure if 'symbolic' was the word I was looking for!
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Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot @MarieAskew_OT And also underlying factors. Is it because of social anxiety? Is it because of being bullied in the past? Is it because of sensory environment at playground? #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Last #OTalk question for the night! https://t.co/qjpvHmNzMJ
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: @BillWongOT @MarieAskew_OT Yeah, important to look at what the child's getting out of the play (or not) rather than just…
Sammy Randall @SammyRandallOT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also play is something that changes as you grow - dressing, eating etc is less changeable across the lifespan #otalk
Sammy Randall @SammyRandallOT
RT @SammyRandallOT: @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also play is something that changes as you grow - dressing, eating etc is less changeable across…
Jade @JadeH_OT
RT @SammyRandallOT: @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also play is something that changes as you grow - dressing, eating etc is less changeable across…
Debra Hughes @Debraj_OT
@OTalk_ i have had trouble with my internet, i will try and catch up when it lets me lol #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @SammyRandallOT: @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also play is something that changes as you grow - dressing, eating etc is less changeable across…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot If the children are able to communicate, absolutely! I think they can tell you honestly about how they felt and perceived. #otalk
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@Debraj_OT Sorry to hear that! Feel free to add to the chat later, we grab the transcript after 24hrs #otalk
Sammy Randall @SammyRandallOT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also raises the Q about making sure we are demonstrating a unique skill set that differs from other disciplines #otalk
Debra Hughes @Debraj_OT
@OTalk_ thank you, i will its intermittent and annoying lol #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @SammyRandallOT: @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also raises the Q about making sure we are demonstrating a unique skill set that differs from oth…
Sammy Randall @SammyRandallOT
RT @SammyRandallOT: @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Also raises the Q about making sure we are demonstrating a unique skill set that differs from oth…
Lelanie @LelanieBrewer
Definitely! Children choose goals meaningful to them, not what others think they should do and we should respect that #OTalk https://t.co/PU0UVM2LUt
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LelanieBrewer: Definitely! Children choose goals meaningful to them, not what others think they should do and we should respect that #O
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
My own context for that last question is that my most recent placement was in a setting where children weren't very involved in the process of setting goals for intervention, and it made me curious about how it would change things if they were #OTalk
Jade @JadeH_OT
@SammyRandallOT @colourful_ot @OTalk_ And why its so important to measure outcomes for services to demonstrate how occupational therapy is integral within the MDT for play #Otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LelanieBrewer I know I wrote in an upcoming AOTA book on autism about conversations between my mom and I about baseball and golf. I highlighted that sometimes it may not be the child’s abilities to play, it can be the parents’ abilities and knowledge to facilitate play, too. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @JHedgesStearn: @SammyRandallOT @colourful_ot @OTalk_ And why its so important to measure outcomes for services to demonstrate how occup…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @colourful_ot: My own context for that last question is that my most recent placement was in a setting where children weren't very invol…
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot #otalk Hi Carolina, I'm not sure if the last question is showing up on @OTalk_ ?
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RT @colourful_ot: Last #OTalk question for the night! https://t.co/qjpvHmNzMJ
Jade @JadeH_OT
@colourful_ot Its an interesting one, I can't imagine many (some may) children wanting to improving their ability to carry out productive/self-care occupations, for example. To remain client-centered/holistic we must consider. However, services being stretched, it isnt always priority #Otalk
Gee @GBronxCicc
RT @colourful_ot: Last #OTalk question for the night! https://t.co/qjpvHmNzMJ
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@OTalk_ @colourful_ot #otalk no worries!
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@colourful_ot And sometimes reflecting on my own experiences, parents should make attempts to help facilitate play, not deter play. Like when I attempted to play catch with my dad in US, me having to nibble the ball to him did me no favors to inspire confidence. #otalk
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That’s officially the end of tonight’s #otalk but please do continue the conversations - we grab the transcript after 24 hours. Massive thank you to @colourful_ot for hosting and to everyone who joined in
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@BillWongOT @LelanieBrewer Definitely! I think people's assumptions about people with autism make a difference to how they can participate in play, too (thinking of this article I read the other day: https://t.co/7zzRCT35bS) #OTalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
Thanks everyone for taking part tonight! I had a great time hosting and have a lot to reflect on now! #OTalk https://t.co/uKGarDK9Fl
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@OTalk_ Thank you for supporting! 😁 #OTalk
Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark
RT @LelanieBrewer: Definitely! Children choose goals meaningful to them, not what others think they should do and we should respect that #O
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
RT @JHedgesStearn: @colourful_ot Its an interesting one, I can't imagine many (some may) children wanting to improving their ability to car…
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@OTalk_ @colourful_ot #otalk @colourful_ot Thank you Carolina- interesting topic that definitely could do with more research around it!
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@MarieAskew_OT @OTalk_ Definitely! This is the article that sparked my interest when I read it on placement, if you want to take a look: https://t.co/3aH9FlFTDr #OTalk
Marie Askew @MarieAskew_OT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ #otalk thank you- will certainly have a read :)
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