#OTalk Transcript

Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag. (). See #OTalk Influencers.

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The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk I have always been known for my fascination with toilets, the task and the products that assist us. Hence the discussion tonight
Klara @ensyster
Been a long time since I joined in for an #otalk!
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk First question, is going to the toilet more than just a transfer
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk where does the assessment start?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
Hello crew! #otalk
ed sum @musedneuroot
#OTalk a time for quiet contemplation... for me... a time when my cats come for a fuss https://t.co/5ALsmqVLPe
Chloe Woodley @chloewoodleyot
Hi #OTalk! I'll be multi tasking tonight whilst watching the first #GBBO 🎂🎂
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
Hi #OTalk looking forward to chatting with you all this evening.
OPEYEMI @francis_adewale
RT @Helen_OTUK: Hi #OTalk looking forward to chatting with you all this evening.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice Wherever you see the patient first. Sometimes their cognitive skills can tell a lot about their independence levels. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@ChloeWoodleyOT #OTalk can't do both, hoping that someone will join in :)
Carolyn the OT @ceeceeot
RT @theRCOT: #Otalk tonight is on the topic of “Assessing toileting” and is hosted by Kate Sheehan @theotservice https://t.co/JGpPUW8xvU
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice Wherever you see the patient first. Sometimes their cognitive skills can tell a lot about their independence…
Chloe Woodley @chloewoodleyot
@theotservice I'll probably more likely be lurking to be honest! #OTalk
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
@theotservice Definitely more than a transfer think - Posture/stability, independence with personal care #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Deborah30470136: @theotservice Definitely more than a transfer think - Posture/stability, independence with personal care #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice And when they walk and starting to do some stand -> sit and sit -> stand transfers, you can also get a sense. #otalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice most definitely! #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@Deborah30470136 #OTalk where does it start?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@ChloeWoodleyOT @theotservice Lurking is not a bad idea. Always a good place to get some working tips. #otalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 Recognising need to use the toilet #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice Right away if I am the evaluating therapist. We have to document and make goals if appropriate. #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
Evening folks #OTalk, not sure what has happened... support seems to be delayed... so jumping in now!
charlotte dunkley @charldunkley
@theotservice #OTalk yes definitely more than just a transfer it's personal hygiene, balance, cognition including the awareness of needs, sequencing etc
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
I agree with @BillWong it is when they first start to move, how do they transfer onto the toilet, for me the majority are hoisted #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 This is so important and often not assessed. Loss of thirst reflex has huge implications on using the toilet #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
Q1 #OTalk https://t.co/RK86cQbsgo
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT #OTalk is it a delicate subject in the US?
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @OTalk_: Q1 #OTalk https://t.co/RK86cQbsgo
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @CharlDunkley: @theotservice #OTalk yes definitely more than just a transfer it's personal hygiene, balance, cognition including t…
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice Right away if I am the evaluating therapist. We have to document and make goals if appropriate. #otalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@OTalk_ I should hope so #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
#OTalk (don't forget the #OTalk Colin!) https://t.co/S6hFPjEv9e
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice Well- if I see patients who can at least do stand pivot transfers in my setting, I will address it. #otalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 And acknowledging the impact of concerns about toileting on diet and fluid intake too #OTalk
Carolyn the OT @ceeceeot
@OTalk_ And transfers will vary culturally, e.g. squatting vs sitting #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
Is going to the toilet just about opening your bowels or passing urine? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 And of course we are dealing with almost 40 degrees heat right now in LA... patients need to drink lots of water! #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
RT @theotservice: Is going to the toilet just about opening your bowels or passing urine? #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 So true. Fluid intake should be discussed during the assessment #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice @pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 And of course we are dealing with almost 40 degrees heat right now in LA.…
Lynne Goodacre PhD @lynnegoodacre
Yes and also socialisation, not leaving the home etc #OTalk https://t.co/etWolUUNxo
CIAO Seminars @ciaoseminars
Thousands of people & animals are in desperate need of help from #HurricaneHarvey. #SLPeeps #OTalk #PTlife https://t.co/3JQ5m9u0BU
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk Second question, Do we need to physically observe the task
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 Identifying toileting habits, routine, values and cultural norms is also important #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @theotservice: #OTalk Second question, Do we need to physically observe the task
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @LynneGoodacre: Yes and also socialisation, not leaving the home etc #OTalk https://t.co/etWolUUNxo
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice There is a purpose to the activity, it so easy to get cause up in function dysfunction, assessment & intervention and miss the point #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 In my setting- an additional element will be what type of liquids patient might be able to tolerate. #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
Q2 #OTalk https://t.co/wYYEy7pZ8t
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @LynneGoodacre: Yes and also socialisation, not leaving the home etc #OTalk https://t.co/etWolUUNxo
The OT Service @theotservice
@colinpgjones So true but do we truly observe and analyse the task?#OTalk
Francesca Smart @fransmartot
Absolutely! can someone express their need if they require assistance? Are facilities adequate? https://t.co/HznOwcTFhD
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice I think it's better to be safe than to be sorry. I don't take word of mouth from nursing. I want to see for myself. #otalk
Chloe Woodley @chloewoodleyot
@CeeCeeOT @OTalk_ Also varies between generations - a patient on placement told me they didn't use the downstairs toilet, so stairs needed considering! #OTalk
Sabrena McCarley @sabrenamccarley
RT @ciaoseminars: Thousands of people & animals are in desperate need of help from #HurricaneHarvey. #SLPeeps #OTalk #PTlife https://t.co/3…
charlotte dunkley @charldunkley
@theotservice #OTalk no it's about the how do I get there, urgency, control, frequency, ability to carry out the transfer, is assistance needed
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice Do we need to? - no. Is it helpful? - yes. Should the patient have a choice? - essential #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT @Deborah30470136 So agree as a new OT I observed a lady standing on the toilet rim and squatting. Dangerous on a western toilet but culturally normal #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
#OTalk https://t.co/3DUrRQMCYw
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@ChloeWoodleyOT @CeeCeeOT @OTalk_ And in my setting there is another factor- are patients comfortable sharing toilets with other people they don't know? #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
@FranSmartOT Don't forget the # so people can see #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice From my experience people preference to politely talk about it & avoid the activity #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @CharlDunkley: @theotservice #OTalk no it's about the how do I get there, urgency, control, frequency, ability to carry out the tr…
The OT Service @theotservice
@CharlDunkley There is also period management. in some cases clients see sitting on the toilet as a escape. The meaning of a space very personal #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@colinpgjones Is that acceptable? #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice From my experience appropriate & careful observation (after consent of course) give a richer understanding 2 what the real issue is #OTalk
Zoë @ot_zoe
Joining the #otalk a bit late. Interested in the topic of toileting assessment after a placement in paediatrics recently
OTalk @otalk_
Sorry @OT_rach here for support. And a bit late, thanks @Helen_OTUK #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @CharlDunkley Or sometimes- one patient might need a raised toilet seat and another one doesn't. How can they get along? #otalk
Francesca Smart @fransmartot
The #changingplaces campaign focuses on toileting facilities for ppl requiring assistance. Any OTs involved? #OTalk @CP_Consortium @OTalk_ https://t.co/S3sgL4HLC1
Chloe Woodley @chloewoodleyot
Accessibility is huge as well, if someone can't use public toilets for any reasons, this impacts on other meaningful occupations #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice I think it's better to be safe than to be sorry. I don't take word of mouth from nursing. I want to see for m…
Rachel Corr @rachelcorrot
@theotservice This should be dependent on the individuals situation at the time, & obviously dignity, safety and choice should always be considered #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @ChloeWoodleyOT: Accessibility is huge as well, if someone can't use public toilets for any reasons, this impacts on other meaningful oc…
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice No ..... #OTalk but sometimes it's the best you can get ... so work around and problem solve and have to take a graded approach.
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
@colinpgjones @theotservice If the assessment is carried out at an appropriate time eg during personal care it may be acceptable #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@ChloeWoodleyOT And of course traveling too. How can people get in and out of toilets inside airplanes? #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@colinpgjones In my experience I have had some of my most informative discussions whilst in the bathroom #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@ChloeWoodleyOT Or- say if you are on a moving train. What would you do if you are someone with poor balance? #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@Deborah30470136 @colinpgjones So agree, also better in the persons own home where they feel empowered #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @Deborah30470136: @colinpgjones @theotservice If the assessment is carried out at an appropriate time eg during personal care it may be…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @colinpgjones: @theotservice No ..... #OTalk but sometimes it's the best you can get ... so work around and problem solve and have…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @RachelCorrOT: @theotservice This should be dependent on the individuals situation at the time, & obviously dignity, safety and ch…
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT @CharlDunkley Always a tough decision. Which brings us to toilet design and is it fit for purpose #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @colinpgjones: @theotservice No ..... #OTalk but sometimes it's the best you can get ... so work around and problem solve and have…
OTalk @otalk_
@Helen_OTUK @OT_rach #otalk https://t.co/4h6ohhcrWz
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @CharlDunkley Or sometimes in my setting, we have to coordinating with nursing about the toilet situations in these rooms. #otalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice Most people if you explain the rationale are accepting of you as the OT for being there in my experience #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk Third question Do we take into account dignity as part of our assessment
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@ot_zoe @ChloeWoodleyOT Or at airplanes- what if they are all full! #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
Question 3 #OTalk https://t.co/49ZEyMPQy4
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 Guess it still needs the OT 2 c the person.... not diagnosis... or what service can offer, otherwise @ home/random outcome the same #OTalk
Francesca Smart @fransmartot
@theotservice If patient is happy then yes, a lot of info can be gathered. V. Hard to assess if u can't see. Obv be mindful of respect & dignity. #OTalk
Ruva Mararike OT @otrcm_
RT @theRCOT: #Otalk tonight is on the topic of “Assessing toileting” and is hosted by Kate Sheehan @theotservice https://t.co/JGpPUW8xvU
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice For me it is such a sensitive topic, for that reason I don't think you can ignore the issue of dignity #OTalk
Carolyn the OT @ceeceeot
@theotservice Dignity must be taken into account throughout entire OT process as per COT/DoH guidelines #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@colinpgjones @Deborah30470136 The patient/client at the centre of the process at all times. Not service lead #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
Or of course there is instance like this too- https://t.co/97wSnM4tNA #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@OT_rach #OTalk https://t.co/qjFk4HuakV
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
Consent is always essential, therefore clients must understand why we want to assess #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice Yes- I think culture is also important to consider. #otalk
Rachel Corr @rachelcorrot
@theotservice I think it should be taken into account at all times, even just doing the smallest thing can be so important to the patient! #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @RachelCorrOT: @theotservice I think it should be taken into account at all times, even just doing the smallest thing can be so im…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @Deborah30470136: Consent is always essential, therefore clients must understand why we want to assess #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT For me dignity is so important. I would not want anyone having to assist me to go and use the toilet #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice #OTalk every time ... but ... that needs us as therapists to make the time to get to know what that is to our clients/patient.
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@OTalk_ #OTalk I personally don't, I think that we can work out when someone is having difficulty and assist if appropriate.
The OT Service @theotservice
@CeeCeeOT It may well be but often in practice it is lost or not given the importance it deserves #OTalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice I'm the same, would definitely affect my occupational performance #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice Yes- I think culture is also important to consider. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @RachelCorrOT: @theotservice I think it should be taken into account at all times, even just doing the smallest thing can be so im…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @pjmasonOT And of course there is a balance between that and safety. If someone is high fall risk, education is important. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @colinpgjones: @theotservice #OTalk every time ... but ... that needs us as therapists to make the time to get to know what that is to o…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@colinpgjones @theotservice This can be difficult if you are not a regular therapist for the patient... which is often in my setting. #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
#OTalk https://t.co/WDusb3Clgn
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT So true. Didn't even like my children in the room whilst I was using the loo #OTalk
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@OTalk_ #OTalk and I think it depends on what we are specifically looking for, cognitive/physical/transfers. Always respect and dignity first.
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @theotservice @pjmasonOT And of course there is a balance between that and safety. If someone is high fall risk, ed…
OTalk @otalk_
@NeuroOTsouth You need to us the # in all your tweets so others can see!! #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @BillWongOT: @colinpgjones @theotservice This can be difficult if you are not a regular therapist for the patient... which is often in m…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @Emm_OT: @OTalk_ #OTalk and I think it depends on what we are specifically looking for, cognitive/physical/transfers. Always…
Francesca Smart @fransmartot
@theotservice An educator once told me it can be easy to forget its normal for OT to see someone toilet but can be terrifying for patient #Otalk #respect
Lynne Goodacre PhD @lynnegoodacre
Agree totally & sometimes compromised by budgetary constraints in terms of what can/can't be provided #OTalk https://t.co/jGgXo2SvIf
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 #OTalk I agree... living that through sometimes for staff can be really hard especially when non OT managed or on job retired professionals
Danni Swaithe @neurootsouth
@theotservice Agree with all the above. It is important to observe, but if a person has capacity and declines, then we have to make a judgement #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @LynneGoodacre: Agree totally & sometimes compromised by budgetary constraints in terms of what can/can't be provided #OTalk https://t.c…
Ailsa Mulligan @ailsa_claire
Am I the only one who thanks to the bank holiday forgot it was Tuesday? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @colinpgjones: @theotservice @Deborah30470136 #OTalk I agree... living that through sometimes for staff can be really hard especia…
Lynne Goodacre PhD @lynnegoodacre
This was a massive prob. In rheumatology and a challenge to resolve well #OTAlk https://t.co/avK8gejX45
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@NeuroOTsouth @theotservice For someone with less than F standing balance, I am not comfortable closing the door when they are toileting #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@NeuroOTsouth Yes, it's about building rapport which can take time and there is not always the time for us to build it #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@BillWongOT @theotservice But surely if you are or not regular therapist making the care plan and therapy intervention person focused you can still achieve? #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT @NeuroOTsouth It's has to be about an appropriate risk assessment #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@colinpgjones @theotservice In our setting, we also have assistants too. Sometimes they come at various times of the day. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @NeuroOTsouth Yes- that is why I mentioned standing balance is one consideration. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT @colinpgjones Would the assistants be doing the assessment or just assisting with the modified task #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk Fourth question Is ‘toileting an acceptable term for use with adults?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @colinpgjones They would be assisting during the plan of care. #otalk
Danni Swaithe @neurootsouth
@theotservice Yes, and building that rapport& an understanding of why we want to observe usually leads to trust, and most people will then engage #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
#OTalk agree, but is there something there about us as therapists saying... we need more time? https://t.co/37v9EXdGQa
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT @colinpgjones So they would be following your rehab programme? #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
Question no 4 #OTalk https://t.co/3gBGAxMRTg
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@LynneGoodacre #OTalk sad but true...just bothers me as so often people don't reflect to see that bigger picture and realise they are part of that
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice If it's Chinese, we have words for #1 and #2. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice @colinpgjones Correct... as long as goals are present. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@Helen_OTUK I agree. We need to be assertive and explain our clinical reasoning to those that are restricting our time with our patients #OTalk
Ailsa Mulligan @ailsa_claire
I agree I'm lucky I have to time to build rapport in my service! That lack of rapport is what I struggled with as a student #OTalk https://t.co/ooRE4Mlol0
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@OTalk_ #OTalk I haven't used the term with pts, it's more in note writing. Although EPR doesn't recognise it as a word!
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @FranSmartOT: @theotservice An educator once told me it can be easy to forget its normal for OT to see someone toilet but can be…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @theotservice: @Helen_OTUK I agree. We need to be assertive and explain our clinical reasoning to those that are restricting our t…
The OT Service @theotservice
@FranSmartOT Oh I so agree. If it's your obsession like mine I have to stop and reflect sometimes rather than going for it #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
I do remember when I did my second TEDx... I did hint about toileting. #otalk
Simone Coetzee @simoneza
RT @LynneGoodacre: Agree totally & sometimes compromised by budgetary constraints in terms of what can/can't be provided #OTalk https://t.c…
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice Everyone has their own take on it I'm sure, but there are culturally neutral terms I'm sure #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT Confused here. Is that words for urine and feaces #otalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @FranSmartOT Yes we sometimes have to grade exposure to our assessments as well as using our activity grading skills. #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice Correct... we often refer that in the states. #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Ailsa_Claire: I agree I'm lucky I have to time to build rapport in my service! That lack of rapport is what I struggled with as a…
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@OTalk_ #OTalk. Totally, it's a very personal and vulnerable situation to be in for most people.
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT Some people have suggested it's a very childish term. #otalk and not appropriate for aldults
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice @BillWongOT #OTalk Valid point need 2 be person led not therapist dictated. But I think clear recommendations & planning as part of intervention is good
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Helen_OTUK: @theotservice @FranSmartOT Yes we sometimes have to grade exposure to our assessments as well as using our activity grading…
Danni Swaithe @neurootsouth
@theotservice I do catch myself using this term with colleagues,but never with a patient. I don't like it tbh #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@colinpgjones @theotservice But if you are in units with lots of dementia patients and/or other cognitive issues, you should make that choice for them. #otalk
Ailsa Mulligan @ailsa_claire
@FranSmartOT @theotservice Agree I am my sis carer so grew up talking bout BM's etc so need to remind myself others find these discussions odd #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT Arrh got it. Should we as OTs use the medical terms or local/cultural terms ? #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @pjmasonOT hmmm.... I am not sure I think it is a childish term? But, we should always try to term things as the individual would prefer #OTalk
Danni Swaithe @neurootsouth
@theotservice It reminds me of bad practice in nh years ago when I was a carer,& residents where 'toileted' only at set times :( #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@colinpgjones @theotservice In my place of work now, there are patients peeing on the gym floors! #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
@theotservice What term do people use? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice I think it depends. I would ask about if they have troubles going to toilet? If they say yes, I will ask them to expand. #otalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@OTalk_ @theotservice I use whatever the person I'm working with uses as I'm sure most occupational therapists do #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@NeuroOTsouth I am not sure if it is a generation thing. I have used it throughout my career but I am thinking I need to amend how I use it #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@musedNeuroOT @theotservice For toileting, I will ask if it's the big one or small one? #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@Helen_OTUK @pjmasonOT I think it needs more exploring as part of our professional terminology. #otalk
Zoë @ot_zoe
#otalk finding a shared language with the person, about 'going to the toilet', is important for shared understanding
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice #OTalk I kinda think it's relevant to the situation... sometimes you have to make a judgment call re the person you are talking to
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @NeuroOTsouth: @theotservice It reminds me of bad practice in nh years ago when I was a carer,& residents where 'toileted' only at set t…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
RT @Helen_OTUK: @theotservice @FranSmartOT Yes we sometimes have to grade exposure to our assessments as well as using our activity grading…
The OT Service @theotservice
@colinpgjones It comes back again to putting the individual at the centre of any assessment. Core OT practice and meeting out ethics #otalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice #OTalk it's a bit like the therapy we provide is tailored to the people we work with as does the terms we use.
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @pjmasonOT yes, I have never thought about the use of the specific word, but I always ask clients what terminology they use #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
Only 10 mins left!! #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @colinpgjones: @theotservice #OTalk it's a bit like the therapy we provide is tailored to the people we work with as does the terms we u…
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@OTalk_ @theotservice If your intervention/assessment is done in context i.e. When the patient actually needs the toilet it is much more helpful to all #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Helen_OTUK: @theotservice @pjmasonOT yes, I have never thought about the use of the specific word, but I always ask clients wha…
The OT Service @theotservice
#OTalk fifth question How can we influence designers to design toilets that meet our clients needs?
OTalk @otalk_
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Francesca Smart @fransmartot
@theotservice Depends on context & patient. Words like 'personal care' can be ambiguous so 'toileting'= straightforward but maybe too blunt 4 some #Otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@ot_lynne Definitely a skill OTs have in communicating in what ever terms is acceptable or understood by the people we are communicating with #otalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice designers need to consult wide and include occupational therapists in there design process. #OTalk
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
@theotservice Square toilet pans are the bane of my life when it comes to fitting a raised toilet seat! #otalk
Lynne Merrett @ot_lynne
@theotservice It's important to listen to what our patients say and echo this so they know we are listening including terminology where appropriate #OTalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice It's that fine balance between a toilet that meets the needs of the majority but also caters for individual specialised needs #OTalk
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@colinpgjones Your doing well Colin - #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@theotservice Talk to fab people like you #OTalk & also 2 manufacturers..... not buying rubbish products & come up with suggestions to existing products
The OT Service @theotservice
And who has a square bottom #otalk https://t.co/vUdfrSSvFZ
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @ot_lynne: @theotservice It's important to listen to what our patients say and echo this so they know we are listening includi…
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Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@Deborah30470136 @theotservice #OTalk I hear you but is the raised toilet seat the answer then.....
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@Deborah30470136 @theotservice lol.... raised toilet seats are the bane of my life! (not that I do many these days) #OTalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice @Helen_OTUK I don't believe a one for all approach works, respect for individual preferences is much more appropriate and promotes dignity #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT The was dry toilets are everywhere in Japan but seen as specialist in the U.K. Should we as OTs be campaigning to mainstream them #OTalk
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Last 5 mins any final thoughts! #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Helen_OTUK: @Deborah30470136 @theotservice lol.... raised toilet seats are the bane of my life! (not that I do many these days) #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@NeuroOTsouth @OTalk_ There are a whole plethora of terms which can be very regional, country based or cultural #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice In my setting, all we can do is educating nursing homes is to let nursing aware of patients who might need them. #otalk
Deborah Stevens @deborah30470136
@colinpgjones @theotservice I work in equipment services and the majority of prescribers misguidedly think it is the solution #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@BillWongOT So true and also to influence new nursing home being built to have the most appropriate products installed for that client group #OTalk
Francesca Smart @fransmartot
@theotservice Continue to shout about #ValueofOT & let the world know. We need to advocate that not only children need assistance/ changing in loos.#Otalk
OTalk @otalk_
#OTalk @NeuroOTsouth don't forget the # in every tweet, if you forget it, people will miss your tweet. #naughtystep https://t.co/yO6VroEQuS
Bill Wong, OTD, OTRL @billwongot
@theotservice And in some cases... portable ones where we can recycle (after cleaning). #otalk
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice But for starters you would need height adjustable, width adjustable and temperature adjustable #OTalk
charlotte dunkley @charldunkley
@Deborah30470136 @theotservice Limited other options available especially when on offer via NHS equipment stores #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @pjmasonOT In some ways I would say yes.... but that won't necessarily result in them being 'right' for people with differing needs. #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@Deborah30470136 @colinpgjones I find the biggest complaint about RTS for clients is that they rarely come with a lid #otalk
OTalk @otalk_
#OTalk times up!!! thanks @theotservice for hosting tonight great topic, I think we could chat about toilets for hours #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
@pjmasonOT Height and temperature can be done easily. Width is more difficult but possible. We need to engage with the product designers #otalk
The OT Service @theotservice
Gosh a hour has gone already. Thank you so much everyone #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @pjmasonOT or they need to engage us! #OTalk
Colin P G Jones @colinpgjones
@OTalk_ @theotservice #OTalk fab job Kate @theotservice
Zoë @ot_zoe
It was great to take part in #Otalk and think about toileting with other groups of service users and in other settings.
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@NeuroOTsouth That's ok that what I'm here for. #otalk
ed sum @musedneuroot
@theotservice @Deborah30470136 @colinpgjones Partners have complained that RTS can become messy when men use it #OTalk
Annie Matthews @annie_matt90
@OTalk_ People do much more than you'd think on the toilet #OTalk transfers are a small part of toileting.
The OT Service @theotservice
@musedNeuroOT @Deborah30470136 @colinpgjones Very true and very difficult to keep clean #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
Thanks for hosting #OTalk @theotservice and BIG thanks to @OT_rach
Philip Mason @pjmasonot
@theotservice Having flexibility to meet all and differing needs is vital. Go into any WC and there + will all be exactly the same, people aren't #OTalk
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@theotservice @pjmasonOT What are dry toilets? #OTalk
OTalk @otalk_
Thanks Kate was great - The transcript will be added to the blog in the next few days. #otalk night all!! https://t.co/LV4kmW1rkq
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@Emm_OT @theotservice @pjmasonOT should be wash and dry toilets.... typo I think. #OTalk
Lee Ann Hoffman @leeannhoffman2
RT @theotservice: And who has a square bottom #otalk https://t.co/vUdfrSSvFZ
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Helen_OTUK: Thanks for hosting #OTalk @theotservice and BIG thanks to @OT_rach
The OT Service @theotservice
@Helen_OTUK @Emm_OT @pjmasonOT Typing to quickly #OTalk
Helen OTUK @helen_otuk
@theotservice @Emm_OT @pjmasonOT Fingers not keeping up with the grey cells? #OTalk
The OT Service @theotservice
RT @Helen_OTUK: @theotservice @Emm_OT @pjmasonOT Fingers not keeping up with the grey cells? #OTalk
Emma Hall @emm_ot
@theotservice @pjmasonOT Aha I see 😁#OTalk

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