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 | The OT Hub @theOThub Hello everyone! Welcome to tonight's #OTalk, hosted by the Hub Team and @TheOTShow! Question 1 coming up! https://t.co/EkO8aU1Bu7 |
 | Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @OTalk_: Who will be joining us and @theOThub for tonight’s #otalk? Just time to read the blog post. https://t.co/8EbMdpJazO |
 | sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk lurking tonight. Topic looks very interesting. |
 | The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: Hello everyone! Welcome to tonight's #OTalk, hosted by the Hub Team and @TheOTShow! Question 1 coming up! https://t.co/EkO8… |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: Hello everyone! Welcome to tonight's #OTalk, hosted by the Hub Team and @TheOTShow! Question 1 coming up! https://t.co/EkO8… |
 | Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Great to be connecting with everyone this evening #otalk |
 | Jo Preston @Joannajpreston I’m another lurker. Quite new to Twitter. Looking forward to learning something new tonight. #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu #otalk Good evening! Looking forward to tonight's topic. @IamAnOT17 |
 | Sarah Wood @sarahwoodOT I'm tuning in tonight. Had a read of the blog and tonight is a topic I'm very interested in, especially the last question! #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk🐦 Creating conditions for more collaborative innovation will be key to improved patient outcomes and future transformations (Innovation into Action, @NHSEngland 2015) Q1: How can shows & online platforms better support collaborative innovation & improved patient outcomes? |
 | Sazzle Willow @LadySarahW1 Ready for the latest #OTalk |
 | OTalk @OTalk_ RT @theOThub: Hello everyone! Welcome to tonight's #OTalk, hosted by the Hub Team and @TheOTShow! Question 1 coming up! https://t.co/EkO8… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @thisisnix @TheOTShow Hey there OT Nix! Welcome to the chat! #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: #OTalk🐦 Creating conditions for more collaborative innovation will be key to improved patient outcomes and future transformat… |
 | Jamie Grant @jamiegrantOT RT @theOThub: #OTalk🐦 Creating conditions for more collaborative innovation will be key to improved patient outcomes and future transformat… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @theOThub: #OTalk🐦 Creating conditions for more collaborative innovation will be key to improved patient outcomes and future transformat… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Great question, I'm sure our community have lots of ideas?! I think we could learn more service users online #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sarahwoodOT: I'm tuning in tonight. Had a read of the blog and tonight is a topic I'm very interested in, especially the last question!… |
 | LeonoraCoolhaas @LeonoraOT Good morning/evening #otalk I’m in #Australia , unable to join you as I’m getting ready for work. Have a great chat & congratulations |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: #OTalk🐦 Creating conditions for more collaborative innovation will be key to improved patient outcomes and future transformat… |
 | Toks Odutayo @TokunboTweetz @theOThub @NHSEngland Advertise and open invitations to service users? Maybe have device users as guest speakers? Getting real life patient stories. #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 We can connect directly with manufacturers and product designers at Shows #OTalk |
 | Carol Percy @DrCarolPercy RT @OTalk_: Few minutes til tonight's #otalk commences, grab a drink, get comfy and ready to tweet. It's @GillyGorry on the account tonight… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk i love going to the otshow. I come away with so many ideas and things that will benefit my service users. |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @TokunboTweetz: @theOThub @NHSEngland Advertise and open invitations to service users? Maybe have device users as guest speakers? Gettin… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @margaretOT360 @OTalk_ #otalk yes i agree, this is great. Especially when they can show you techniques etc |
| OTalk @OTalk_ I agree there's a great variety and the #otalk team will be there this year! Come find our stand! |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @TokunboTweetz: @theOThub @NHSEngland Advertise and open invitations to service users? Maybe have device users as guest speakers? Gettin… |
| Sarah Wood @sarahwoodOT @theOThub @NHSEngland The Trust I work for along with many other promote the use of Twitter to connect professionals as well as demonstrating our work to the public. This is a great opportunity to share ideas and best practice #otalk |
 | CelinaOTstudent @CelinaOTstudent #otalk Thought I could have a little look at whats going on tonight :) |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I have made some great connections and suggested how companies such as @SpringChickenCo have an OT advisor ##OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Events like @TheOTShow help disseminated information on latest products, care methods, etc. Online platforms/spaces, e.g. @theOThub (https://t.co/YKTQDMdpqn) and OT4OT allow conversations to continue remotely, around the world. Do you think this can translate to our care? #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @sherlynmelody: #otalk i love going to the otshow. I come away with so many ideas and things that will benefit my service users. https:/… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Welcome always great to have students on board #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Events like @TheOTShow help disseminated information on latest products, care methods, etc. Online platforms/spaces, e.g. @theOThub and OT4OT allow conversations to continue remotely, around the world. Do you think this can translate to our care? #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: Events like @TheOTShow help disseminated information on latest products, care methods, etc. Online platforms/spaces, e.g. @th… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Can we influence product design this way? #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @OTalk_: I agree there's a great variety and the #otalk team will be there this year! Come find our stand! https://t.co/h8PFBddzPH |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Great idea! @theOTshow is generally for professionals, rather than service users, but perhaps it could invite them in to get involved! #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: Events like @TheOTShow help disseminated information on latest products, care methods, etc. Online platforms/spaces, e.g. @th… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Yes, I worked with Phil Murgatroyd after the show, exploring his outcome measure #OTalk |
| Sarah Wood @sarahwoodOT @theOThub @NHSEngland Also keeping an eye out for other shows and conferences that are not OT specific. I went to the Alzheimer's conference last year and brought so many resources back I use #OTalk |
 | OT Nix @thisisnix @theOThub @NHSEngland [Q1] Being able to network and connect with each other.. to share passion & ideas about our profession is something I notice #OccupationalTherapists do very well 👍 Thankful we can do this with greater ease through shows, online, & any integrated meet ups/events! 💚🙌 #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I don’t understand why we don’t? #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes, we think social media is increasingly recognised in the workplace as a helpful tool to showcase our work to the public. Do you find employers are happy with social media use at work though? #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @thisisnix: @theOThub @NHSEngland [Q1] Being able to network and connect with each other.. to share passion & ideas about our profession… |
 | Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @NHSEngland Signposting individuals to self-help resources, reminding of the importance of self-care & being an active part of their own rehab is a key part of the role of an #OccupationalTherapist. Providing learning resources, in a printable format for patients is a good idea. #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @sherlynmelody @margaretOT360 @OTalk_ @TheOTShow one for 2019 perhaps? #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @thisisnix: @theOThub @NHSEngland [Q1] Being able to network and connect with each other.. to share passion & ideas about our profession… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @margaretOT360: Welcome always great to have students on board #OTalk https://t.co/rMkQdCH6zH |
 | Alice Wimberley @AliceE_OT2 @theOThub @NHSEngland Facebook groups can provide a platform to ask other occupational therapists and find information about specific areas. For example @MH4OT and @ot4ot #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @sarahwoodOT: @theOThub @NHSEngland Also keeping an eye out for other shows and conferences that are not OT specific. I went to the Alzh… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @margaretOT360 Perhaps @NaidexShow is more for the end user? The OT Show is more for #OccupationalTherapists specifically... #OTalk |
 | Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes. Our service @PTOTSLTDietAHPs positively promotes it #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland #otalk i always tweet whilst training&other events where i can show my employers how I'm being developed |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @AliceE_OT2: @theOThub @NHSEngland Facebook groups can provide a platform to ask other occupational therapists and find information abou… |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland It isn't considered the most professional format to communicate between professionals and service users. Especially for vulnerable groups. #OTalk |
 | Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli One thing that concerns me is that chats seem to be divided up along professional roles, w service users focusing on peer support chats & professionals focused on discipline-specific ones. Perhaps a purposefully organized combined approach would produce these results #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @NHSEngland Signposting individuals to self-help resources, reminding of the importance of self-care & being… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I have been an invited blogger for @RIG recruitment agency #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @_allisulli: One thing that concerns me is that chats seem to be divided up along professional roles, w service users focusing on peer s… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Worth the question #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @_allisulli: One thing that concerns me is that chats seem to be divided up along professional roles, w service users focusing on peer s… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @sherlynmelody: @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland #otalk i always tweet whilst training&other events where i can show my employers how… |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Between professionals is great though, especially during training events & when sharing CPD learning. Having shared hashtags is a good way to track input & engagement. Some people aren't keen to use technology, or don't have access outside of work. #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @NHSEngland Signposting individuals to self-help resources, reminding of the importance of self-care & being… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @AliceE_OT2: @theOThub @NHSEngland Facebook groups can provide a platform to ask other occupational therapists and find information abou… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @_allisulli Yes very good point. Integrating professionals and service users can be a challenge. Given each is using online platforms and events for different purposes... #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Any further thoughts before we move onto Question 2? #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @_allisulli A combination approach would be great. Difficult to achieve but think, but then some said #otalk wouldn't take off! |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: Great idea! @theOTshow is generally for professionals, rather than service users, but perhaps it could invite them in to get… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @NHSEngland Signposting individuals to self-help resources, reminding of the importance of self-care & being… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @theOThub: @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes, we think social media is increasingly recognised in the workplace as a helpful tool to showcase… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @shelleyamybeth @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes true. Social media is clearly more informal than an email. But it does reach far more people, far quicker... #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @NHSEngland Maybe writing up key learning and sharing on formats such as @theOThub Community Forum https://t.co/crST6q3Frb allow for greater engagement from OTs, as we can't all attend every conference or event? #OTalk |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Joannajpreston: I’m another lurker. Quite new to Twitter. Looking forward to learning something new tonight. #OTalk |
 | Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland At @WorcsHealthCare we have quite a lot of twitter users, and each Thursday the Trust account is taken over for the day by a different person or team to really promote the range of things going on in the Trust #OTalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @TokunboTweetz: @theOThub @NHSEngland Advertise and open invitations to service users? Maybe have device users as guest speakers? Gettin… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @LeonoraOT: Good morning/evening #otalk I’m in #Australia , unable to join you as I’m getting ready for work. Have a great chat & congra… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @sarahwoodOT: @theOThub @NHSEngland The Trust I work for along with many other promote the use of Twitter to connect professionals as we… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @CelinaOTstudent: #otalk Thought I could have a little look at whats going on tonight :) |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: @shelleyamybeth @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes true. Social media is clearly more informal than an email. But it does reach far… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @thisisnix: @theOThub @NHSEngland [Q1] Being able to network and connect with each other.. to share passion & ideas about our profession… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @AliceE_OT2: @theOThub @NHSEngland Facebook groups can provide a platform to ask other occupational therapists and find information abou… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland It isn't considered the most professional format to communicate between professional… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @_allisulli: One thing that concerns me is that chats seem to be divided up along professional roles, w service users focusing on peer s… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Between professionals is great though, especially during training events & when shar… |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli @theOThub This is why a combined forum may be helpful. A recent survey here in the US indicated that 85% of family members do not feel they were adequately supported w information & resources after the dx of SMI in a family member. We spend too much time preaching to the choir #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Yes, @ukotac is another great (regional) event for engaging with manufacturers and products #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Great idea! Could this weekly system be rolled out across other Trusts? #OTalk |
 | Abi @Abi21643842 BJOT has some great practice resources and elearning to support professional development. I think it is important to plan CPD time to explore such resources. Day to day we become so busy and forget #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub Only.....be honest with service users. If you don't know something, learn it, share it & write a reflection, they learn, you develop & this can be shared with your team to develop others too! #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub Only.....be honest with service users. If you don't know something, learn it, share it & write a reflection,… |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @Abi21643842: BJOT has some great practice resources and elearning to support professional development. I think it is important to plan… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @_allisulli: @theOThub This is why a combined forum may be helpful. A recent survey here in the US indicated that 85% of family members… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub Only.....be honest with service users. If you don't know something, learn it, share it & write a reflection,… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk🐦 Professional and geographic isolation QUESTION 2: What are your experiences of social isolation (at work) and how have you overcome them? |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Will look it out #OTalk https://t.co/nEbLCzduW1 |
 | Laura Alice @LauraAliceEv RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub @NHSEngland Signposting individuals to self-help resources, reminding of the importance of self-care & being… |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: #OTalk🐦 Professional and geographic isolation QUESTION 2: What are your experiences of social isolation (at work) and how ha… |
| Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @_allisulli @theOThub There must be relevant service user twitter chats going on. Maybe something as simple as doing the same topic one week and promoting joining in both could help people connect #OTalk |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli @OTalk_ It would have to be organized and promoted well ahead. But I think it could be really productive. I think #bpdchat has a mix of service users & professionals in a way that is admirable. I imagine @CarlDunnJr & @BPDFFS would agree that the chat advanced their skills as well #OTalk |
| Abi @Abi21643842 Youtube, Podcasts and NHS Athens are a great resource, there are online learning platforms along with research journals #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare I didn't know this, I work for @WorcsHealthCare https://t.co/9ybvFWVmsp am a Lead for @theOThub, volunteer for @backuptrust & fundraise for @QEHBCharity & @MAA_Charity I'd love to share my knowledge, how do I get involved? #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk i have found that working in social services surrounded by social workers, with no clinical supervision can lead to social isolation. |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I got all the OTs in the local area who were working in isolation in charities, independently, schools etc to come together as a role emerging educator group. We take it in turns to host and meet 4 times a year #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RIGHT, WE MUST MOVE ON! Time is flying by! #OTalk🐦 QUESTION 2: Professional and geographic isolation - What are your experiences of social isolation (at work) and how have you overcome them? https://t.co/4afJTo5XgW |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @shelleyamybeth: @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare I didn't know this, I work for @WorcsHealthCare https://t… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes, we think social media is increasingly recognised in the workplace as a helpful tool to showcase… |
 | OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS Hi colleagues, here for #OTalk and eager to strengthen the field of occupational therapy practice with people who have been displaced. |
 | LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub @NHSEngland I didn't really answer the question but I think if starts at a base level. Why don't we learn about the importance of the use of social media and networking using this method at uni for example? Sharing ideas leads to better patient outcomes! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @OT_KateT @_allisulli @theOThub We have tried, all chats are open to anyone, we do get the occasional service users, we would love more! #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub ❤️ YES! #OTalk |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub Joining inpt therapy team v physio heavy. Continued explanation of our role, leading by example, joint working. We now have more OT! #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @margaretOT360: We can connect directly with manufacturers and product designers at Shows #OTalk https://t.co/S4n2gDip9U |
| Abi @Abi21643842 @theOThub Being an OT in a generic role can be quite isolating. It has taken me some time to find OTs in other services for support, but worth doing to share learning and knowledge #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Clinical supervision is a prof requirement. Really challenging working alone professionally 😢 #OTalk |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub @OTalk_ @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland I tend to do it out of work time. However I know people who work for NHS trusts who actively encourage staff to post about the service whilst at work #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @margaretOT360: I got all the OTs in the local area who were working in isolation in charities, independently, schools etc to come toget… |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub 1/2 Working in community, covering a large geographic area can be lonely. But nothing compares to the isolation in my previous acute role. I am keen to welcome all new staff, knowing how challenging it can be to be a newly qualified in a new town. Creating a journal club...#OTalk |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli @OT_KateT @theOThub Yes. I just gave the example of #bpdchat. Combining forces for a planned chat with objectives for both service users & clinicians might achieve improve outcomes for both groups via goal attainment scaling #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @theOThub Online supervisor, #otalk and 4OT community. I actually think professional isolation is harder than geography, depending on reason for isolation. |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @shelleyamybeth: @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare I didn't know this, I work for @WorcsHealthCare https://t… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @sherlynmelody Yes, it seems rare to be in a big team of #OccupationalTherapists, especially in community settings. What coping mechanisms/tools do you use to connect with #OTs then? #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @theOThub: ❤️ YES! #OTalk https://t.co/XhQn059nhj |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @CommunityLD_OT: @theOThub @NHSEngland I didn't really answer the question but I think if starts at a base level. Why don't we learn abo… |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @sherlynmelody Can you buddy up with your local health OTs? #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @margaretOT360: I got all the OTs in the local area who were working in isolation in charities, independently, schools etc to come toget… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @theOThub: #OTalk https://t.co/DerIxJyDW3 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Abi21643842: BJOT has some great practice resources and elearning to support professional development. I think it is important to plan… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @theOThub: Great idea! Could this weekly system be rolled out across other Trusts? #OTalk https://t.co/Cfg17ezLdc |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @margaretOT360 Awesome idea! This should be rolled out nationwide!!! #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: @sherlynmelody Yes, it seems rare to be in a big team of #OccupationalTherapists, especially in community settings. What copi… |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS Often occupational therapists working with displaced people are the first OT to work within the organisation. A community of practice is important. #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @theOThub: #OTalk https://t.co/DerIxJyDW3 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @_allisulli: @theOThub This is why a combined forum may be helpful. A recent survey here in the US indicated that 85% of family members… |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub I'm quite fortunate in the fact that I work in a relatively big team in a large town. There are 5 OT's all with varying backgrounds and experiences and then all the other professionals so I've never felt isolated #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Totally agree, constantly justifying your role with no support #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @theOThub: @_allisulli Yes very good point. Integrating professionals and service users can be a challenge. Given each is using online p… |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @OTalk_ @theOThub Agreed #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @OTalk_ Yes agreed. So having a really good supervisor - online or by phone - must be key to fighting isolation #OTalk |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub That being said when I move to my new job I think things may be slightly different. I'll be in a big city with more teams spread wider. I'll have to ensure I make links with the other OT's across the county to ensure I'm not isolated! I like the comaradery and support! #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Easy and cheap to do #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @OT_KateT: @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland At @WorcsHealthCare we have quite a lot of twitter users, and each Thursday the Trust acco… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @theOThub #otalk I was given clinical supervision, which helped immensely |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: Great idea! Could this weekly system be rolled out across other Trusts? #OTalk https://t.co/Cfg17ezLdc |
| Abi @Abi21643842 @theOThub @sherlynmelody We had OT meetings to help create an OT process with an agreed standardised assessment that can be used throughout the recovery pathway. It was also a useful time to discuss ideas and support the practice development of others #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub 2/2...can be a good way to see other's interests and knowledge, to share new ideas & have social engagement. Creating a club; craft, book, pudding, etc can also help to meet others & share something you enjoy. Daily, having buddy-up systems or cuppa breaks create chat. #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I think it’s essential for sanity and CPD #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @_allisulli: @theOThub This is why a combined forum may be helpful. A recent survey here in the US indicated that 85% of family members… |
| Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare @backuptrust @QEHBCharity @MAA_Charity Every now and then they promote it in one of the comms emails. If I can find you on the global email tomorrow I'll send you the contact details! #OTalk |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare This was one of the trust's I was referring to when I said staff are actively encouraged to engage in social media. Someone I graduated with does a lot of social media through their account and it great for promoting what we do! #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @sherlynmelody: @theOThub #otalk I was given clinical supervision, which helped immensely |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @nicola_stirling #OTALK I have clinical supervision now which made ALL the difference. |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: @_allisulli Yes very good point. Integrating professionals and service users can be a challenge. Given each is using online p… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @nicola_stirling Yes agreed. Hub Director Jamie works in a Rapid Response service - very nurse-heavy. It's great to have a close-nit MDT, so long as professional identity and voice aren't diluted! #OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS Inspiration from #WorldOTDay and the example from #OTalk resulted in starting #OOFRASchat each month so OTs working with refugees and asylum seekers can access peers. |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare Conversely, my trust were not keen for staff to be involved even though we were actively pushing for it. A shame as we just wanted to promote the work we do! #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @Abi21643842: @theOThub Being an OT in a generic role can be quite isolating. It has taken me some time to find OTs in other services fo… |
 | Jade Hearson @JadeH_OT Looks like some great discussions on #OTalk tonight by the wonderful @theOThub team! Sorry I’m late to the discussion, enjoying catching up though! |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @sherlynmelody: @nicola_stirling #OTALK I have clinical supervision now which made ALL the difference. |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub Find ways to promote our profession within your service...comms team, MDT teaching opportunities, trust staff magazine? #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @Abi21643842 Very interesting insight! Have you managed to maintain your occupational focus? #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub @OTalk_ Having a good practice educator when studying is vital for development, having a good supervisor when working is essential! #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @CommunityLD_OT: @OT_KateT @theOThub @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland @WorcsHealthCare This was one of the trust's I was referring to when I sai… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: @shelleyamybeth @sarahwoodOT @NHSEngland Yes true. Social media is clearly more informal than an email. But it does reach far… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @OTalk_ #OTalk Question 2 |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT RT @theOThub: 🐦 TONIGHT WE TWEET! Why connect both in person and online? This week's #OTalk: “Bringing the OT community closer together” -… |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli @massmutual @NAMIMass some interesting ideas for reaching consumers of health care services and products. Have you tried to offer a guided twitter chat for improved interface between clinicians & clients? #OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS First #OOFRASchat is Monday 5 Nov on disability and displacement. Hopefully the space is valuable to build awareness, knowledge and connections. More info: https://t.co/2RwV4AG7PB #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @sarahwoodOT So would you say online platforms, forums, Facebook groups and Twitter chats helped you overcome the isolation of community OT? #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 100% #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @margaretOT360: 100% #OTalk https://t.co/aTmGK6ZhJg |
| Abi @Abi21643842 @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub Agree. I have found skyping old uni friends useful to discuss practice and strategies, and access support within your own OT community #OTalk |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli I gave a guest lecture on this topic to our first-year students last week! Learning how to communicate the distinct value of occupational therapy as a student will enhance your resume & research indicates that you will be more likely to do so as a professional #OTalk |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub So important! Language and how we describe our role so important. Always keep everything occupation focused. I know not always easy #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @sarahwoodOT @nicola_stirling #otalk yes I was beginning to feel like that. |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk QUESTION 3: The more information available to the healthcare industry, the better able clinicians are to make the best decisions when supporting service users (Sood, 2017). 🐦 Can problems arise (in study or in practice) from information overload? https://t.co/scOIrELMzA |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli #OTalk: Any opinions for me on this? |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @Abi21643842: @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub Agree. I have found skyping old uni friends useful to discuss practice and strategies, and acces… |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @_allisulli: I gave a guest lecture on this topic to our first-year students last week! Learning how to communicate the distinct value o… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @nicola_stirling: @theOThub So important! Language and how we describe our role so important. Always keep everything occupation focused.… |
| RebeccaPearsonOT @Rebecca86076044 @theOThub Sometimes it can feel overwhelming (especially as a student) to receive so much information all at once, but I believe it does allow us to become our own kind of OT and develop our skills and techniques in a way that lets our own personal values shine through #OTalk |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @sarahwoodOT @sherlynmelody Can we be more creative with supervision too...more practical sessions, joint working etc? #OTalk |
| Abi @Abi21643842 @theOThub Yes I think I have #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @Rebecca86076044: @theOThub Sometimes it can feel overwhelming (especially as a student) to receive so much information all at once, but… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 In my experience it’s essential to support your clinical work with government guidelines, NICE and relevant research etc. Informs your clinical reasoning and justifies role. That’s why it’s an essential skill to learn as a student. #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @Rebecca86076044: @theOThub Sometimes it can feel overwhelming (especially as a student) to receive so much information all at once, but… |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub Being online alot can sometimes feel intrusive? #OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS To get the most from a community of practice using social media we need to be brave. To put our interests 'out there' to accelerate learning. #OTalk #OOFRASchat |
| OT Nix @thisisnix @shelleyamybeth @theOThub Aww, lovely thoughts— and now I wanna come work with you too @shelleyamybeth! ☕️🎨📖💚 #OTalk 👏 #socialisolation #socialengagement 🤗#IdeasChangeLives 👍 |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk - Is information overload most experienced as a student/new #OccupationalTherapist? #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @thisisnix: @shelleyamybeth @theOThub Aww, lovely thoughts— and now I wanna come work with you too @shelleyamybeth! ☕️🎨📖💚 #OTalk 👏 #soci… |
| CelinaOTstudent @CelinaOTstudent #OTalk I've recently been in a lecture with other AHP's and the ones on my team did not know what OT's did. They are student Physios so a little worrying when people get them confused frequently...We should be working together and promoting their unique roles as standard I think |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Supervision needs to meet your needs and make a difference. Needs to be as person centred as we are with clients. #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @nicola_stirling In what way does being online feel intrusive? We're curious what you mean :) #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ This is we're good clinical reasoning comes into play, selecting the appropriate evidence from a mass of information is an art. #otalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @CelinaOTstudent: #OTalk I've recently been in a lecture with other AHP's and the ones on my team did not know what OT's did. They are s… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @sarahwoodOT Again, leaning on a colleague you get on well with - and a decent supervisor - must make information-overload less overwhelming! #OTalk |
| CelinaOTstudent @CelinaOTstudent @theOThub I am a first year student, and I am at times overwhelmed by the information yes #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @OTalk_: This is we're good clinical reasoning comes into play, selecting the appropriate evidence from a mass of information is an art.… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @OTalk_: This is we're good clinical reasoning comes into play, selecting the appropriate evidence from a mass of information is an art.… |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub As an anxious person, I have been overwhelmed a few times, but am finding my own ways to deal with it. I now write everything, keep a diary, save links for reading & watch equipment videos on @YouTube (@TheHydrantUK @PrismMedicalUK @GeberitUK @MangarInt among others) etc #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @shelleyamybeth: @theOThub As an anxious person, I have been overwhelmed a few times, but am finding my own ways to deal with it. I now… |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: #OTalk QUESTION 3: The more information available to the healthcare industry, the better able clinicians are to make the bes… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Yes be very picky about what you choose to support the things you do. #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: #OTalk QUESTION 3: The more information available to the healthcare industry, the better able clinicians are to make the bes… |
 | Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @theOThub Not sure - I would imagine that students in general are probably overloaded by needing info from a lot of different fields, but practising OTs might be overloaded with the amount of detailed, specialised info they need for their area #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @CelinaOTstudent Do you find prioritising a good dose of #selfcare and #leisure occupations help in these stressful times? #OTalk |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @theOThub I was spending too much time on twitter, useful but not fully switching off! Much better now, only you can find your right balance #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @margaretOT360: Yes be very picky about what you choose to support the things you do. #OTalk https://t.co/cOpVKzH5Ev |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @colourful_ot: @theOThub Not sure - I would imagine that students in general are probably overloaded by needing info from a lot of diffe… |
| Toks Odutayo @TokunboTweetz @theOThub YES! #OTalk |
 | Natalie Matchett OT @NatMatchOT RT @margaretOT360: 100% #OTalk https://t.co/aTmGK6ZhJg |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 ALWAYS 😊🎉🤸♀️ #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @Rebecca86076044: @theOThub Sometimes it can feel overwhelming (especially as a student) to receive so much information all at once, but… |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS @_allisulli Interesting, how would it work? Sounds like a good experiment. #OTalk Happy to learn what works for #OOFRASchat too. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Final 5 minutes for #otalk. ( Gone fast tonight) |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk QUESTION 4 (FINAL QUESTION): Public awareness of #OccupationalTherapy... (yes, that barrier!) 🐦 How can we work to become a profession that is better understood by the public and healthcare colleagues? https://t.co/wSu1TDAqvt |
| The OT Hub @theOThub Yes, finding #OcupationalBalance seems to be a fluctuating ability in life! #OTalk |
| RebeccaPearsonOT @Rebecca86076044 @theOThub I think exposure in the mainstream media would be very educational for the public for example a documentary similar to ‘Ambulance’ which looks at the day to day life of paramedics, OT’s deserve the same credit and public appreciation for the invaluable work we do #OTalk |
 | Cindy OT @OTDanceQueen Online platforms are a great way to collaborate with other clinicians on identifying current issues, discussing future research topics and sharing ideas on improving effective interventions that lead to improved patient outcomes. #OTalk |
| Sarah Wood @sarahwoodOT @theOThub There's been so much in the news lately of prescriptions for gardening by GPs etc. We need more OTs in primary care! #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk (FINAL QUESTION) |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @thisisnix @theOThub I haven't had chance to implement my ideas at present, due to lack of interest in 'change'...but I'm keen to continue. At @theOThub we're creating an online Journal Club...maybe we should start an online craft or bakery club? ha ha @jamiegrantOT...what do you think? #OTalk |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @OTalk_: This is we're good clinical reasoning comes into play, selecting the appropriate evidence from a mass of information is an art.… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I am arranging to meet lots of OTs face to face that I supervise from Skye and Dorset at the #OTShow #OTalk then we can multitask in one arena |
| The OT Hub @theOThub ❤️🧡💛💚💙 YES PLEASE! #OTalk |
| Nicola Stirling @nicola_stirling @OT_KateT @theOThub Ha, so true! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @Rebecca86076044 @theOThub I think you get taught the foundations of how to understand research and apply to practice, the experience helps build the cognitive library and strengthen understanding. #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub As a profession, we seem really great at sharing in collective celebration of the #ValueOfOT - but this doesn't always translate into the wider general public #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @colourful_ot @theOThub Yes....this! And, if you apply for a different role, you need to learn so much more specific to that post. So much to learn, all of the time. We've just got to pace ourselves....we're only human. #OTalk |
 | Joyce Latimer @JoyceInYork RT @theOThub: #OTalk QUESTION 4 (FINAL QUESTION): Public awareness of #OccupationalTherapy... (yes, that barrier!) 🐦 How can we work to… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Deliver, and make a difference so that people really notice, and remember the OT who............#OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS Supervisor and mentors help cut through information overload using 'just in time learning'. Peer chats like #OTalk or #OOFRASchat are perhaps broader and more opportunistic. |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @shelleyamybeth: @colourful_ot @theOThub Yes....this! And, if you apply for a different role, you need to learn so much more specific to… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Thanks so much for tonight's #otalk @theOThub it's been a great discussion. |
| The OT Hub @theOThub 100% #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: ❤️🧡💛💚💙 YES PLEASE! #OTalk https://t.co/7Qr5FeRr46 |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @OTalk_: Thanks so much for tonight's #otalk @theOThub it's been a great discussion. |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli Yes problems w info overload are numerous & significant: 1) what to do when data conflicts exist 2) generalizability 3) falsified data 4) research bias/vested interests 5) quality control 6) less sensitivity to outliers 7) market-driven decision making To name a few 😃 #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @OOFRAS: Supervisor and mentors help cut through information overload using 'just in time learning'. Peer chats like #OTalk or #OOFRASch… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @_allisulli: Yes problems w info overload are numerous & significant: 1) what to do when data conflicts exist 2) generalizability 3) f… |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub Absolutely as a student! However I do think people need to have a better understanding of their learning styles. This helped me greatly in managing being overloaded with information. I only tend to be overloaded if someone just talks at me as I don't learn that way #OTalk |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @Rebecca86076044 @theOThub Or a (well-researched) fictional programme like Call the Midwife! #OTalk |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @theOThub: #OTalk QUESTION 4 (FINAL QUESTION): Public awareness of #OccupationalTherapy... (yes, that barrier!) 🐦 How can we work to… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Have said this for over 10 years. We are trying to get placements in GP practice so they can experience the breadth and depth of our role #otalk not to mention how much we could save the #GP |
| Monica Iofciu_OT @MonicaIofciu RT @_allisulli: Yes problems w info overload are numerous & significant: 1) what to do when data conflicts exist 2) generalizability 3) f… |
| Sarah Wood @sarahwoodOT @theOThub Also I think it's important we use our occupational science language. People is my team regularly talk about clients 'occupational balance'. They have such a great understanding of our profession! 😁 #otalk |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli RT @OOFRAS: First #OOFRASchat is Monday 5 Nov on disability and displacement. Hopefully the space is valuable to build awareness, knowledge… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @OOFRAS: Supervisor and mentors help cut through information overload using 'just in time learning'. Peer chats like #OTalk or #OOFRASch… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 None @theRCOT #otalk |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot RT @sarahwoodOT: @theOThub Also I think it's important we use our occupational science language. People is my team regularly talk about cli… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #OTalk thanks for tonight. It has been great! |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @theOThub I tend to try and take a day a couple of days a month to do specific CPD work in which I'm planning on building my skills and learning new things about my field. But I'm learning everyday and I don't feel overloaded as such, as it's at a natural pace #OTalk |
| CelinaOTstudent @CelinaOTstudent @theOThub I find taking a step back and speaking to others on my course helps as they often feel the same way. This helps to put it into perspective. I also struggle as I am dyslexic, so the amount of reading I want to do (alot) is unrealistic if i wish to remain sane 🤣 #OTalk |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @nicola_stirling @theOThub I agree. Sometimes you're at work all day then you're online and almost seemingly constantly thinking about work. That's when you know you need to take a step back! #OTalk |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @sarahwoodOT @theOThub Like these repeated press releases? @Telegraph : https://t.co/fgjFgRTH9d & https://t.co/gt1sEg5VYb @GdnSocialCare : https://t.co/qOmY2WTxoC @BBCEngland : https://t.co/j6b7bpUYFT They leave me shouting "That's Occupational Therapy!!!!" #OTalk |
| OT Nix @thisisnix This is a strong statement & it’s one I agree with.. this has truth. Specialising is helping me to be a better #OccupationalTherapist & advocate OT profession more clearly to others now 💚 #OTalk |
| LD OT Laura @CommunityLD_OT @sarahwoodOT @theOThub I've thought this before, how do people not want to do our job?! #OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS When people see us 'walk the talk' that's the best kind of promotion! E.g. Global Day of Service for #WoldOTDay #OTalk #OOFRASchat https://t.co/PWQxvRGAJw |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @OTalk_ 🐦 THANK YOU to everyone who took part in #OTalk this evening! The OT Hub and @TheOTShow loved hosting (despite time flying by!) Tonight's chat is over, but do continue discussion - here/at https://t.co/YKTQDMdpqn - and in person, on 21st/22nd November! https://t.co/IPJ1rsppUl |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk FREE tickets to @TheOTShow can be found at https://t.co/dnXBbov6J2 |
| Shelley Faulkner OT @shelleyamybeth @theOThub We are so holistic, even when a role restricts us, we can still ask about things that other professionals may not have considered. I think this comes across a bit 'jack of all trades' to others, as they don't see the full value in our holistic approach. #ILOVEMYJOB #OTalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub #OTalk ...and finally, a cheeky plug: Check out https://t.co/alEXkhYUv6 - for 24/7 chat on all things #OccupationalTherapy! Thanks for all your tweets 😀 All the best, The OT Hub Team |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @CommunityLD_OT: @nicola_stirling @theOThub I agree. Sometimes you're at work all day then you're online and almost seemingly constantly… |
| CelinaOTstudent @CelinaOTstudent @thisisnix I genuinely believe this is why people are unsure about what OT's do? #otalk |
| The OT Hub @theOThub @CommunityLD_OT @nicola_stirling Definitely! Striking that balance can be so hard! #OTalk |
| OOFRAS Network @OOFRAS That's it #OTalk folks! If you know any occupational therapists interested in working with refugees, please invite to #OOFRASchat https://t.co/2RwV4AG7PB |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @shelleyamybeth: @sarahwoodOT @theOThub Like these repeated press releases? @Telegraph : https://t.co/fgjFgRTH9d & https://t.co/gt1sEg5V… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @CommunityLD_OT: @sarahwoodOT @theOThub I've thought this before, how do people not want to do our job?! #OTalk |
 | Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @margaretOT360: Have said this for over 10 years. We are trying to get placements in GP practice so they can experience the breadth and… |
| OT Nix @thisisnix Great idea @shelleyamybeth💡Indeed, do it and the #OTs will come! 💚😁 When a good idea comes along, we swoop in from everywhere online! 🦅🐥🦉🕊#OTalk @theOThub 👍🤓👍 |
 | Catriona Connell @POPPED_Project RT @thisisnix: This is a strong statement & it’s one I agree with.. this has truth. Specialising is helping me to be a better #Occupational… |
| Dr Allison Sullivan @_allisulli RT @theOThub: #OTalk ...and finally, a cheeky plug: Check out https://t.co/alEXkhYUv6 - for 24/7 chat on all things #OccupationalTherapy!… |
| Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @margaretOT360: Deliver, and make a difference so that people really notice, and remember the OT who............#OTalk https://t.co/JkOD… |
| Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @margaretOT360: I am arranging to meet lots of OTs face to face that I supervise from Skye and Dorset at the #OTShow #OTalk then we can… |
 | B2 @OTBrianNY RT @BillWongOT: As a social media influencer, I have to think strategically on how to promote our profession well. That is why I am thinkin… |
| Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @margaretOT360: Supervision needs to meet your needs and make a difference. Needs to be as person centred as we are with clients. #OTalk… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: #OTalk FREE tickets to @TheOTShow can be found at https://t.co/dnXBbov6J2 |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: @OTalk_ 🐦 THANK YOU to everyone who took part in #OTalk this evening! The OT Hub and @TheOTShow loved hosting (despite time f… |
| The OT Hub @theOThub RT @thisisnix: Great idea @shelleyamybeth💡Indeed, do it and the #OTs will come! 💚😁 When a good idea comes along, we swoop in from everywher… |
| The OT Show @TheOTShow RT @theOThub: #OTalk ...and finally, a cheeky plug: Check out https://t.co/alEXkhYUv6 - for 24/7 chat on all things #OccupationalTherapy!… |
| Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @margaretOT360: I got all the OTs in the local area who were working in isolation in charities, independently, schools etc to come toget… |
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