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![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Hello everyone, welcome to tonight’s #OTalk @preston_jenny on the account tonight welcoming @DuncsOT and all our contributors. |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ So who else is joining us tonight, please say hello and let us know you are there #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Back to normal time now... yay! #otalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT Hello everyone - looking forward to my first #OTalk as host rather than lurker! |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Hi @preston_jenny and @DuncsOT Happy #OTWeek2017! #OTalk https://t.co/wP0HHHSKnb |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman I too am hoping to join you #OTalk |
![]() | Lisa Forrest OT 🌈 @LisaForrestOT RT @DuncsOT: Hello everyone - looking forward to my first #OTalk as host rather than lurker! |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Trying to remember to join in on a Tuesday evening! #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @SensationalOT Last week was weird. Nobody was aware of the time change situation until that day. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Three simple rules and no naughty step tonight! 1. Please use #OTalk, 2. Remember code of conduct and most of all 3. Have fun!! |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy Evening #OTalk and happy #OTWeek2017 to you all! :D Hows everyone doing? |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek I’m always forgetting the #OTalk 🙄 https://t.co/Oj9HTsFiwK |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @BillWongOT And here it was Halloween 👻- trick or treating won 😕#OTalk |
![]() | Lisa Forrest OT 🌈 @LisaForrestOT Evening everyone and happy OT Week @DrEmmaGreen_OT #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @OTalk_: Don’t forget to join us later tonight for #OTalk Research at 8.00 pm https://t.co/Qpjh1BUmI3 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ You’re not alone @hooper_ek, I’ve just done it myself, big oops #OTalk https://t.co/S3qLmOdD1F |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #OTalk Here's a question to start using off: How joined up do you think your evaluation is? |
![]() | melanie faulkner @melf74 Hi. I'm lurking!! #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Welcome colleagues from GCU #OTalk https://t.co/QqfdrT2y4A |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Reminder or alarm works best. #otalk |
![]() | Ana Pires @anapire77988177 @OTalk_ I'm in #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Bet it won’t last long @melf74, that’s how we all start #OTalk https://t.co/PXpJxiP3KR |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 Watching #HolbyCity whilst lurking for #OTalk (waiting for #OccupationalTherapy to be mentioned in view of #OTWeek2017) |
![]() | Debra Hughes @Debraj_OT sitting ready #otalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @BillWongOT @OTalk_ The problem is less organisational & more children’s needs-based! Here now 😊 #OTalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Google Calendar recurring weekly event with a 15minute before notification. Laptop & synced to my phone. All about beating #brainfog #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ So for our first question of the night “how joined up do you think your evaluation is?” #OTalk https://t.co/AaX21mntOk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @AbiEdwards7 @OTalk_ Make your tweets public please for the hour so that people can see if you want to contribute. #otalk |
![]() | Jane Street 🌈💙 🌻🕊 🇺🇦😷She/her @JaneStRetCP RT @lottie01: Watching #HolbyCity whilst lurking for #OTalk (waiting for #OccupationalTherapy to be mentioned in view of #OTWeek2017) |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek In clinical practice i found it tended to be reactive rather than proactive .... not necessarily ‘joined up’ #OTalk https://t.co/o1fhej3gpt |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy About as joined up as the rest of my life (not very!) It makes sense to me but probably nobody else! Good job I work independently! #OTalk https://t.co/SL8NSiLiZU |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Can you tell us a bit more about that @hooper_ek #OTalk https://t.co/HV6hMyqJOy |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads Evening everyone! Looking forward to tonight's talk, though confess I've one eye on this and one eye on some work I'm finishing up #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @NorwoodThreads: Evening everyone! Looking forward to tonight's talk, though confess I've one eye on this and one eye on some work I'm finishing up #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @hooper_ek Can you give an example please #OTalk |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT #OTalk -not joined up enough for research! @DrLucyJMiller helpfully suggested though that it largely entails having good questions to answer https://t.co/md1ZWXwbYY |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Jt12Truman: @hooper_ek Can you give an example please #OTalk |
![]() | RCOT_PLD @RCOT_PLD RT @OTalk_: So who else is joining us tonight, please say hello and let us know you are there #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @hooper_ek I second that. In my setting- it’s often s/p fall, change in condition, or s/p discharge from acute care hospital. #otalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk evaluation in practice is possibly more reflective and quick rather than critically annalysed |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @DuncsOT What do you mean joined up Duncan? #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @hooper_ek Very rarely we do get cases where patient is motivated to improve, as those are long term care patients in my setting. #otalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Thanks Emma - maybe a common experience? Evaluation in reaction to demands of context rather than linked to theory? #Otalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Usually if some evaluative evidence was needed we’d go digging back for it to meet the present demands rather than being proactive #OTalk https://t.co/rqme3IHO1R |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: @DuncsOT What do you mean joined up Duncan? #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lottie01: #OTalk evaluation in practice is possibly more reflective and quick rather than critically annalysed |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @DuncsOT: @hooper_ek Thanks Emma - maybe a common experience? Evaluation in reaction to demands of context rather than linked to theory? #Otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hooper_ek: Usually if some evaluative evidence was needed we’d go digging back for it to meet the present demands rather than being proactive #OTalk https://t.co/rqme3IHO1R |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Yep indeed .... #OTalk https://t.co/T8k1ZbcwfK |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @hooper_ek Thanks Emma - maybe a common experience? Evaluation in reaction to demands of context rather than linked to theory? #Otalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @POPPED_Project Does it link to what you expect to see come from practice or what you want to know about, or does it feel piecemeal and unplanned? #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Interested in your comment not joined us enough for research @SensationalOT #OTalk can you tell more |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk I think we overlook our basic evaluations in acute settings like if our approach is working... We evaluate and change tac if needed |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @POPPED_Project Does it link to what you expect to see come from practice or what you want to know about, or does it feel piecemeal and unplanned? #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @hooper_ek: Yep indeed .... #OTalk https://t.co/T8k1ZbcwfK |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: Interested in your comment not joined us enough for research @SensationalOT #OTalk can you tell more |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lottie01: #OTalk I think we overlook our basic evaluations in acute settings like if our approach is working... We evaluate and change tac if needed |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @hooper_ek Yes my experience too wish I had been more proactive to demonstrate #valueofOT #OTalk |
![]() | Philip Mason @pjmasonOT @DuncsOT #OTalk Sorry. Do you mean joined up to day to day clinical practice, outcomes, reflection or something else? |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @lottie01: #OTalk I think we overlook our basic evaluations in acute settings like if our approach is working... We evaluate and change tac if needed |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Jt12Truman: @hooper_ek Yes my experience too wish I had been more proactive to demonstrate #valueofOT #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @DuncsOT: @POPPED_Project Does it link to what you expect to see come from practice or what you want to know about, or does it feel piecemeal and unplanned? #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Sure - so does that mean that you look to evaluate what other people think it important rather than what makes sense as an OT? #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @pjmasonOT: @DuncsOT #OTalk Sorry. Do you mean joined up to day to day clinical practice, outcomes, reflection or something else? |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @DuncsOT Like 2 think so. Though can think of examples of big projects that are poorly consulted on and measure stragnge things... #otalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Never too late to start though #OTalk https://t.co/Nh0vCE3BRb |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @hooper_ek Sure - so does that mean that you look to evaluate what other people think it important rather than what makes sense as an OT? #OTalk |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT It would be difficult to produce anything more than a single case study from my work because we don't think thematically #OTalk https://t.co/eitqfBL1zA |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: @DuncsOT Like 2 think so. Though can think of examples of big projects that are poorly consulted on and measure stragnge things... #otalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Here you go @pjmasonOT #OTalk https://t.co/m6z3IcEbOC |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @lottie01 @OTalk_ And don’t always record those evaluations systematically #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell RT @DuncsOT: @POPPED_Project Does it link to what you expect to see come from practice or what you want to know about, or does it feel piecemeal and unplanned? #OTalk |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @hooper_ek Ours is reactive too - but in that we're now using an outcome measure to show our value, rather than to evaulate our input per se #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @SensationalOT: It would be difficult to produce anything more than a single case study from my work because we don't think thematically #OTalk https://t.co/eitqfBL1zA |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @LynneGoodacre The only time I have ever produced research, it involved new thinking about ax and outcome measures in a totally new way #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @NorwoodThreads: @hooper_ek Ours is reactive too - but in that we're now using an outcome measure to show our value, rather than to evaulate our input per se #otalk |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @hooper_ek Though this might help in a proactive sense in the long-run, if anyone has/makes time to look at the data! #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @SensationalOT: @LynneGoodacre The only time I have ever produced research, it involved new thinking about ax and outcome measures in a totally new way #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #Otalk Following up on @hooper_ek 2.Do you measure/count what matters from ur prof perspective/the perspectives of the people you work with |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ we are very much 1:1 focused rather than in research as assumr population focused so we minimise importance & recognition of Eval #otalk |
![]() | Philip Mason @pjmasonOT @DuncsOT it’s a core part of the Occupational Therapy process so essential but it’s probably more undertaken implicitly rather than explicitly #OTalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @NorwoodThreads @hooper_ek Really important point. So easy to collect data you think will be useful only to never get the chance to review it....#OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Do you think this is a challenge in practice @NorwoodThreads #OTalk https://t.co/tcQxxlaLd1 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: #Otalk Following up on @hooper_ek 2.Do you measure/count what matters from ur prof perspective/the perspectives of the people you work with |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @LynneGoodacre I think it would be amazing to improve work in ways that allowed excellent research from meaningful assessment #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @TerriG20: @NorwoodThreads @hooper_ek Really important point. So easy to collect data you think will be useful only to never get the chance to review it....#OTalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek It can be a big challenge to take the space to evaluate outcomes but if we don’t do that it’s hard to evidence #ValueofOT #OTalk https://t.co/bdfR3UhurQ |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @pjmasonOT: @DuncsOT it’s a core part of the Occupational Therapy process so essential but it’s probably more undertaken implicitly rather than explicitly #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk Q2... not systematically but again more reflectively in practice as the professional and patient perspective influences work |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @DuncsOT @hooper_ek For some patients I have, time being able sitting in w/c is meaningful to increase interaction with environment. #otalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell can evaluate many things: single case change, to service outcomes, to processes, to patient experience to... all need different prep #otalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy I don't measure. With most of my practice it's more qualitative/subjective thoughts and reflections than numbers and stats. #OTalk https://t.co/xLLnITcLv4 |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre A sense that we weren’t measuring what mattered to clients was the question that got me into research & informed my PhD #OTalk https://t.co/k4BdiKD5Cy |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Stimulating discussion #OTalk, are we ready to move to the next question @DuncsOT |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @SensationalOT: @LynneGoodacre I think it would be amazing to improve work in ways that allowed excellent research from meaningful assessment #OTalk |
![]() | Philip Mason @pjmasonOT @DuncsOT By me, I hasten to add #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @JBOccyTherapy: I don't measure. With most of my practice it's more qualitative/subjective thoughts and reflections than numbers and stats. #OTalk https://t.co/xLLnITcLv4 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hooper_ek: It can be a big challenge to take the space to evaluate outcomes but if we don’t do that it’s hard to evidence #ValueofOT #OTalk https://t.co/bdfR3UhurQ |
![]() | RCOT Wales Region @RCOTWalesRegion RT @OTalk_: So who else is joining us tonight, please say hello and let us know you are there #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: can evaluate many things: can evaluate many things: single case change, to service outcomes, to processes, to patient experience to... all need different prep #otalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @lottie01 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ you can evaluate your input/outcomes in single cases - evaluation doesn't need to be a service wide /research project #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @JBOccyTherapy: I don't measure. With most of my practice it's more qualitative/subjective thoughts and reflections than numbers and stats. #OTalk https://t.co/xLLnITcLv4 |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell RT @DuncsOT: #Otalk Following up on @hooper_ek 2.Do you measure/count what matters from ur prof perspective/the perspectives of the people you work with |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: A sense that we weren’t measuring what mattered to clients was the question that got me into research & informed my PhD #OTalk https://t.co/k4BdiKD5Cy |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @OTalk_ Yes! I'm from a research background so highly value evaluation but need to be creative/share ideas how to balance with clinical work #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @OTalk_ Sure - 3.What questions about your practice do you want to ask or investigate? #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @POPPED_Project: @lottie01 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ you can evaluate your input/outcomes in single cases - evaluation doesn't need to be a service wide /research project #otalk |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Don't forget the commissioners @DuncsOT! They often have their own targets for assessment /outcome measures #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @DuncsOT @hooper_ek I am ashamed to admit I have measured what our service managers think is important to maintain a service rather than clients #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @POPPED_Project: @lottie01 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ you can evaluate your input/outcomes in single cases - evaluation doesn't need to be a service wide /research project #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @OTalk_ Sure - 3.What questions about your practice do you want to ask or investigate? #OTalk |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @hooper_ek Absolutely agree! #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 @POPPED_Project @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Exactly my point... We totally underestimate how much we already evaluate (how else do you make a clinical decision) #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Definitely how we are value for money #otalk https://t.co/bfdlJCagp2 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Now this is an interesting question @DuncsOT #OTalk. Looking forward to the responses. https://t.co/HAXXK4TT3C |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: Definitely how we are value for money #otalk https://t.co/bfdlJCagp2 |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @SensationalOT @hooper_ek absolutely, maybe we can use evaluation to change the direction of that conversation, people and their outcomes as well as target? #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lottie01: @POPPED_Project @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Exactly my point... We totally underestimate how much we already evaluate (how else do you make a clinical decision) #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Jt12Truman: @DuncsOT @hooper_ek I am ashamed to admit I have measured what our service managers think is important to maintain a service rather than clients #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @SensationalOT: @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Don't forget the commissioners @DuncsOT! They often have their own targets for assessment /outcome measures #OTalk |
![]() | Venthan Mailoo @VenthanMailoo @Jt12Truman @hooper_ek How can evaluation be proactive rather than re-active? Can something that has not happened yet or been done be evaluated? @OTalk_ #OTalk |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett As a student on my 3rd placement, getting ready to make decisions of my own, my favourite question is - why?? Why this, why that? #OTalk https://t.co/F83Ngdisln |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @DuncsOT @OTalk_ This is what led me into research the desire to understand what difference OT and services could make #valueofOT #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @SensationalOT @hooper_ek absolutely, maybe we can use evaluation to change the direction of that conversation, people and their outcomes as well as target? #OTalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek That’s not unusual ... why do you think it’s a challenge to come from the SU’s perspective? It’s so powerful when we do that instead #OTalk https://t.co/FRw1FgRAtq |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @margaretOT360 How long term are we willing to assess? In children's services our cost savings won't be noticed for years or decades #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @lottie01 @TerriG20 @OTalk_ Definitely, or decide to discharge/end intervention #otalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @margaretOT360 Nice thought! Everyone knows want money is but lots of thoughts around what value is! #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @ChloeVincett: As a student on my 3rd placement, getting ready to make decisions of my own, my favourite question is - why?? Why this, why that? #OTalk https://t.co/F83Ngdisln |
![]() | Philip Mason @pjmasonOT @DuncsOT @OTalk_ Big one for me is about the significance of my own bias. Am I driving this? Is my interpretation and passion blinding me? #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Jt12Truman: @DuncsOT @OTalk_ This is what led me into research the desire to understand what difference OT and services could make #valueofOT #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Love a why question... keeps me on my toes and always thinking (my philosophy is if I cant say why I shouldn't be doing this) #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @SensationalOT: @margaretOT360 How long term are we willing to assess? In children's services our cost savings won't be noticed for years or decades #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hooper_ek: That’s not unusual ... why do you think it’s a challenge to come from the SU’s perspective? It’s so powerful when we do that instead #OTalk https://t.co/FRw1FgRAtq |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @VenthanMailoo @Jt12Truman @hooper_ek @OTalk_ is this about having a hypothesis before you start, and routine outcome monitoring #otalk ? |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @pjmasonOT: @DuncsOT @OTalk_ Big one for me is about the significance of my own bias. Am I driving this? Is my interpretation and passion blinding me? #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk I'd like to know how we can prove that quality is better than quantity (not just about the finances commissioners) |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @Jt12Truman @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek But without the service you can’t begin to meet clients needs - sometimes a strategic approach is necessary! #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @SensationalOT @hooper_ek Shared targets and values would probably help here #OTalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy I constantly ask myself if I can do better, how I can give my clients more value for ££. How I can be more flexible & client-centred #OTalk https://t.co/n3schAG1e7 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Liking this philosophy @lottie01 #OTalk https://t.co/X4TEdyU94E |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Great question to keep asking forever.. #otalk https://t.co/vrOEGtBnm1 |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @ChloeVincett Why is always good question to ask. If you don’t ask, your future supervisors might. #otalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @NiamhKinsella: @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @SensationalOT @hooper_ek Shared targets and values would probably help here #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @JBOccyTherapy: I constantly ask myself if I can do better, how I can give my clients more value for ££. How I can be more flexible & client-centred #OTalk https://t.co/n3schAG1e7 |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek No. I mean making sure we’re measuring what’s important to our SU’s rather than letting the system be the tail that wags the dog #OTalk https://t.co/RQPOUNUce9 |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett @lottie01 It's surprising how many times you get "it's what we've always done" it's sometimes great as a student being able to stir things up #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @VenthanMailoo @Jt12Truman @hooper_ek @OTalk_ I think some settings are just reactive, period. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Anyone like to help @lottie01 with this question @DuncsOT #OTalk https://t.co/IYbeXy9UEF |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #Otalk lots of ideas about value for £. without good evolution linked to OT someone else might decide what our value is |
![]() | grainne carley @gra_carley with e-systems access, it is much easier to measure results - e.g. MOHOST baseline & as outcome & the system does d work pulling data #otalk |
![]() | Dr Michelle Perryman-Fox 🦊 @Symbolic_Life RT @LynneGoodacre: A sense that we weren’t measuring what mattered to clients was the question that got me into research & informed my PhD #OTalk https://t.co/k4BdiKD5Cy |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @ChloeVincett: @lottie01 It's surprising how many times you get "it's what we've always done" it's sometimes great as a student being able to stir things up #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @JBOccyTherapy: I constantly ask myself if I can do better, how I can give my clients more value for ££. How I can be more flexible & client-centred #OTalk https://t.co/n3schAG1e7 |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy It's always good to ask what the occupation is. What Occupation are we enabling or what Occupation are we using for therapy #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @JBOccyTherapy: I constantly ask myself if I can do better, how I can give my clients more value for ££. How I can be more flexible & client-centred #OTalk https://t.co/n3schAG1e7 |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @SensationalOT @hooper_ek We should be able to demonstrate shared values at least? #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: #Otalk lots of ideas about value for £. without good evolution linked to OT someone else might decide what our value is |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @gra_carley: with e-systems access, it is much easier to measure results - e.g. MOHOST baseline & as outcome & the system does d work pulling data #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @JBOccyTherapy: It's always good to ask what the occupation is. What Occupation are we enabling or what Occupation are we using for therapy #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @JBOccyTherapy: It's always good to ask what the occupation is. What Occupation are we enabling or what Occupation are we using for therapy #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @OTalk_ @lottie01 @DuncsOT If we can put words to the value judgements that we make is everyday practice we could start to do this #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @DuncsOT: #Otalk lots of ideas about value for £. without good evolution linked to OT someone else might decide what our value is |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @gra_carley Absolutely - routine outcome monitoring becomes so much more efficient when its accessible this way #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @OTalk_: Anyone like to help @lottie01 with this question @DuncsOT #OTalk https://t.co/IYbeXy9UEF |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @JBOccyTherapy In my setting, sometimes it might be what can we do to maximize quality of life. #otalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell RT @JBOccyTherapy: It's always good to ask what the occupation is. What Occupation are we enabling or what Occupation are we using for therapy #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @NiamhKinsella: @OTalk_ @lottie01 @DuncsOT If we can put words to the value judgements that we make is everyday practice we could start to do this #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: @gra_carley Absolutely - routine outcome monitoring becomes so much more efficient when its accessible this way #otalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre A colleague did her PhD on how clients use outcome information when it is shared. Really interesting area to explore #OTalk https://t.co/u5OFzfKYVd |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Challenging this kind of thinking is a student’s raisin d’etre @ChloeVincett keep it up! Great question #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @POPPED_Project: @gra_carley Absolutely - routine outcome monitoring becomes so much more efficient when its accessible this way #otalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett I encourage students to keep asking why until the answer makes sense - “because we’ve always done it that way” doesn’t count! #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @TerriG20: @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Challenging this kind of thinking is a student’s raisin d’etre @ChloeVincett keep it up! Great question #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @TerriG20: @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Challenging this kind of thinking is a student’s raisin d’etre @ChloeVincett keep it up! Great question #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @TerriG20: @lottie01 @ChloeVincett I encourage students to keep asking why until the answer makes sense - “because we’ve always done it that way” doesn’t count! #OTalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT Quality of life is often intrinsically linked to occupations isn't it? #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @POPPED_Project @VenthanMailoo @hooper_ek @OTalk_ I wanted to be proactive in deciding what I felt was imp to evaluate for client benefit rather than reacting to others #OTalk |
![]() | grainne carley @gra_carley RT @LynneGoodacre: A colleague did her PhD on how clients use outcome information when it is shared. Really interesting area to explore #OTalk https://t.co/u5OFzfKYVd |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @JBOccyTherapy But for bed ridden patients, they are totally dependent on others for ADL’s. #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Needs to work both ways, info to commissioners and different info to service users. Different reason for selling #otalk https://t.co/Z5HIjVJAWK |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Sounds really interesting @LynneGoodacre, is there a reference to this work so that we can read it @DuncsOT #OTalk https://t.co/BDd30bNw9t |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek RT @LynneGoodacre: A colleague did her PhD on how clients use outcome information when it is shared. Really interesting area to explore #OTalk https://t.co/u5OFzfKYVd |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Jt12Truman: @POPPED_Project @VenthanMailoo @hooper_ek @OTalk_ I wanted to be proactive in deciding what I felt was imp to evaluate for client benefit rather than reacting to others #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @TerriG20: @lottie01 @ChloeVincett I encourage students to keep asking why until the answer makes sense - “because we’ve always done it that way” doesn’t count! #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @BillWongOT @JBOccyTherapy Thanks Bill. QoL an interesting one - a common bottom line regardless of, if it's captured well. Maybe too medical at times? #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @k_tedjo @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Absolutely no benefit comes from closing a service #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT Not all bed bound people are fully dependent and even then could find something that provides quality #otalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett With my practice educator hat on - i love this question. Especially if i don't know the answer. Challenges us all to stay on our toes #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @JBOccyTherapy: @BillWongOT Quality of life is often intrinsically linked to occupations isn't it? #OTalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT ADL's aren't the only occupations though. There are so many occupations you can do while in bed / horizontal even if you need help #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett With my practice educator hat on - i love this question. Especially if i don't know the answer. Challenges us all to stay on our toes #otalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Yes do you think we’re proactive enough with commissioners?! #OTalk @margaretOT360 https://t.co/yfuGDeQGy5 |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre @OTalk_ @DuncsOT Just completed her viva successfully so papers yet to follow #OTalk was from a PT perspective but some interesting insights |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @Jt12Truman @k_tedjo @DuncsOT @hooper_ek unless its harming patients? important our evaluation captures adverse events #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Time is whizzing by @DuncsOT, are we ready for our next question #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Assistive technology can be invaluable for increasing independence and reducing staff costs #otalk https://t.co/x3lNiKF4WU |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett RT @TerriG20: @lottie01 @ChloeVincett I encourage students to keep asking why until the answer makes sense - “because we’ve always done it that way” doesn’t count! #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Will keep an eye out for that @LynneGoodacre, sounds so interesting #OTalk https://t.co/31gahDoS85 |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT We did darts and boules so SUs wanted to stand & the same SUs who didn’t want to do rehab would come to play games- HA! #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @Jt12Truman @VenthanMailoo @hooper_ek @OTalk_ what we are aiming to change, should be what we evaluate. And we should be aiming to change what makes a clients life better #otalk |
![]() | grainne carley @gra_carley @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT Today in OT class we discussed twiddle mitts & concluded it is a purposeful occupation - can be done horizontal & many other ways #OTalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @lottie01 @BillWongOT Even if you're 100% dependent on others for ADLs you can still have choice & control over how you're helped with those occupations #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @POPPED_Project: @Jt12Truman @VenthanMailoo @hooper_ek @OTalk_ what we are aiming to change, should be what we evaluate. And we should be aiming to change what makes a clients life better #otalk |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett RT @lottie01: @ChloeVincett Love a why question... keeps me on my toes and always thinking (my philosophy is if I cant say why I shouldn't be doing this) #otalk |
![]() | Ana Pires @anapire77988177 @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I'm trying to involve families and clients on the process as much as I can. It is not always easy but I'm trying to do it #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #Otalk What would need to happen to make your routine evaluation more valuable…to you, your service and the people you work with? |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @gra_carley: @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT Today in OT class we discussed twiddle mitts & concluded it is a purposeful occupation - can be done horizontal & many other ways #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Not at all. Unless we target them in their language we cant deliver the best practice to our clients #otalk https://t.co/cEysVG0QJf |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @margaretOT360: Assistive technology can be invaluable for increasing independence and reducing staff costs #otalk https://t.co/x3lNiKF4WU |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @Incy72 @OTalk_ @margaretOT360 We just went paperless, I can’t find files that are older than 5 yrs 🙇🏼♀️Which is a shame because my hunch is we did some great work #OTalk |
![]() | Jackie Pottle @JackiePottleOT @JBOccyTherapy @margaretOT360 @BillWongOT #otalk quality of life for palliative patients involves normality and control -key areas that OT helps with -research provides evidence |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Agree @POPPED_Project! #OTalk That’s more of a joined up approach! https://t.co/Bb1YrATje0 |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @gra_carley @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT what on earth is a twiddle mitt??!?!? #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Good question @DuncsOT #OTalk https://t.co/113a7kMxTY |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT RT @hooper_ek: Agree @POPPED_Project! #OTalk That’s more of a joined up approach! https://t.co/Bb1YrATje0 |
![]() | Ana Pires @anapire77988177 @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I would love to get more ideias about outcome measures and goal setting with clients if someone is willing to share #otalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Keep going with that approach @AnaPire77988177 #OTalk https://t.co/qDRLN2RsE8 |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: Not at all. Unless we target them in their language we cant deliver the best practice to our clients #otalk https://t.co/cEysVG0QJf |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT I really enjoy working on goals with patients that *aren't* ADLs - often so much more meaningful for patient (and OT!) #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 A mit you can twiddle with 😀#otalk https://t.co/Vl12l4RFJF |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @DuncsOT Calling caregivers for info if applicable. #otalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @DuncsOT Embedding routine outcome monitoring that includes our occupation-focused measures #otalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @gra_carley @BillWongOT The internet can be used hands-free & horizontal. That gives access to LOADS of resources (social, productivity, leisure, work). #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @AnaPire77988177: @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I would love to get more ideias about outcome measures and goal setting with clients if someone is willing to share #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @POPPED_Project: @DuncsOT Embedding routine outcome monitoring that includes our occupation-focused measures #otalk |
![]() | Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8 @OTalk_ #OTalk lurking this evening after a long day on placement |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Time to get feedback from service users, they are are best advocates and clearly 'get' what we do #otalk https://t.co/Wd2crpZS16 |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT @AnaPire77988177 @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I think asking the client and involving their family/carers makes it much more meaningful, realistic and practical #otalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @DuncsOT Mass data collection systems (NCRS,CareNotes etc) to be customisable to collect & analyse what frontline therapists want/need #OTalk |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT @DuncsOT @POPPED_Project Because I am new to research, my attempts often include discussion about my learning about selecting the right outcome measure 🤦🏼♀️ #OTalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @POPPED_Project @DuncsOT I think that’s a more eloquent way of expressing what I meant! #OTalk |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT RT @margaretOT360: Time to get feedback from service users, they are are best advocates and clearly 'get' what we do #otalk https://t.co/Wd2crpZS16 |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @NorwoodThreads @BillWongOT YES!! I often focus on non ADLs first, once clients are feeling good about that you can work on boring stuff like bathing & dressing #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @TerriG20: @DuncsOT Mass data collection systems (NCRS,CareNotes etc) to be customisable to collect & analyse what frontline therapists want/need #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @ellram_OT: @AnaPire77988177 @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I think asking the client and involving their family/carers makes it much more meaningful, realistic and practical #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: Time to get feedback from service users, they are are best advocates and clearly 'get' what we do #otalk https://t.co/Wd2crpZS16 |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @ellram_OT: @AnaPire77988177 @DuncsOT @OTalk_ @hooper_ek I think asking the client and involving their family/carers makes it much more meaningful, realistic and practical #otalk |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @POPPED_Project @gra_carley @JBOccyTherapy @BillWongOT https://t.co/YQawOFlgOM #OTalk |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT @margaretOT360 I agree...all about client centred practice #otalk |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT Co-creation of vision of what practice looks like and exploration of that in action #OTalk |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett At @Uni_of_Essex we have practiced pitching group ideas to "commissioners" really interesting to consider what they'd want to hear #OTalk https://t.co/ulYhB9pI5E |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @ellram_OT: @margaretOT360 I agree...all about client centred practice #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @NiamhKinsella: @DuncsOT Co-creation of vision of what practice looks like and exploration of that in action #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #otalk My experiences for embedding eval to make it meaningful.. IT in place, a little duplication as possible, balance between practical.. |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @NiamhKinsella: @DuncsOT Co-creation of vision of what practice looks like and exploration of that in action #OTalk |
![]() | Terri Grant 💙 @TerriG20 @margaretOT360 @OTalk_ Maybe need to focus on translating what our SUs say into commissioners language? #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 100% if they are not on board ther are no commissions and no OT simple as #otalk https://t.co/aVnN1jjesK |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett @yasmine_OT maybe this is the key to our current placement? #OTalk https://t.co/9jIaG3LNCw |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #otalk ...application/burden and capturing the things that are useful to OTs and their services |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek We could generate enough ideas for a whole #OTalk on that @AnaPire77988177! I’m involved in goal setting in a dementia study & it’s great! https://t.co/pRALdkzdcK |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @ellram_OT: @margaretOT360 I agree...all about client centred practice #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @TerriG20: @DuncsOT Mass data collection systems (NCRS,CareNotes etc) to be customisable to collect & analyse what frontline therapists want/need #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @TerriG20: @margaretOT360 @OTalk_ Maybe need to focus on translating what our SUs say into commissioners language? #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @SensationalOT @DuncsOT Same here - and then i get confused by the twenty million measures that are only slightly different `#otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Only ten minutes remaining, be sure to make your points everyone before we finish up #OTalk @DuncsOT |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Also co-creation of outcome measures #OTalk ie ensuring clients are central to any process of development and validation https://t.co/iUV86V6KSa |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hooper_ek: We could generate enough ideas for a whole #OTalk on that @AnaPire77988177! I’m involved in goal setting in a dementia study & it’s great! https://t.co/pRALdkzdcK |
![]() | Michelle Keefe @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek As a student I hear conflicting views of client goals as outcome measures #OTalk |
![]() | #HelloMyNameIs Laura @laurareidOT @POPPED_Project @OTalk_ @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Currently got a 3rd year student + I also love being asked why, helps me verbalise and justify my clinical reasoning and processes #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @hooper_ek: We could generate enough ideas for a whole #OTalk on that @AnaPire77988177! I’m involved in goal setting in a dementia study & it’s great! https://t.co/pRALdkzdcK |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT a nice insight - evaluation of the how of OT as well as the outcome - both inform each other #OTalk https://t.co/iyijgQVYNB |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Maybe we need to add goal setting to our list of topics after February 2018 #OTalk https://t.co/IJZWQbjsf8 |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman RT @TerriG20: @margaretOT360 @OTalk_ Maybe need to focus on translating what our SUs say into commissioners language? #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk I think acute hospital are ADL focused because once you can safely do the basics you get them out and this is (1/2) |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @laurareidOT: @POPPED_Project @OTalk_ @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Currently got a 3rd year student + I also love being asked why, helps me verbalise and justify my clinical reasoning and processes #OTalk |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Great idea! Like Dragons Den? #OTalk @ChloeVincett https://t.co/HPK1ZuhFVA |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: Also co-creation of outcome measures #OTalk ie ensuring clients are central to any process of development and validation https://t.co/iUV86V6KSa |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella RT @DuncsOT: a nice insight - evaluation of the how of OT as well as the outcome - both inform each other #OTalk https://t.co/iyijgQVYNB |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT Cant have one without the other #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @lottie01: #OTalk I think acute hospital are ADL focused because once you can safely do the basics you get them out and this is (1/2) |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: a nice insight - evaluation of the how of OT as well as the outcome - both inform each other #OTalk https://t.co/iyijgQVYNB |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @laurareidOT: @POPPED_Project @OTalk_ @TerriG20 @lottie01 @ChloeVincett Currently got a 3rd year student + I also love being asked why, helps me verbalise and justify my clinical reasoning and processes #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk (2/3) where people feel value is lost as we don't address meaning BUT how can you |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @JBOccyTherapy wow. making one would be an occupation (a challenging one for me) but is twiddling an occupation? debate #otalk https://t.co/lcCydjOWnD |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk bake a cake if can't get out of bed... If your stuck in bed what else can someone do to #LiveNotExist (3/3) |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek Sometimes we face that in clinical setting- like 10 inches on functional reach test... since it indicates low risk for falls. #otalk |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett @laurareidOT @POPPED_Project @OTalk_ @TerriG20 @lottie01 Yes I feel slightly leech like, pulling out peoples reasoning but it's really the only way to learn! #wearethankful #OTalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 #OTalk evaluation is a key aspect of our work and how we make sense of what we do to explain our purpose and intervention |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Does this give a distorted view of OT in other areas? #otalk https://t.co/SmzgPKWUkW |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek That's a shame. I think it's important to focus on client goals, as well as having theoretical outcomes measures. If you do not focus on client goals, you may end up wih a client that is not interested or willing to take part in therapy #otalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #otalk a "final" question - is the information you collect from practice more useful to you and your practice than formal research? |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @ChloeVincett @Uni_of_Essex Like to know more about this Chloe #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell my twitter feed keeps falling asleep. I\m sure it used to just update itself without needing refresh #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Five minutes remaining, that was quick, as always #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @ellram_OT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek ooh have you got an account with extra characters? #otalk |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT @lottie01 Good point raised #LiveNotExist #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @ellram_OT: @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek That's a shame. I think it's important to focus on client goals, as well as having theoretical outcomes measures. If you do not focus on client goals, you may end up wih a client that is not interested or willing to take part in therapy #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 No but a mechanism to manage before or after an activity to regulate #otalk https://t.co/1BEazKKM8U |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Final thought provoking question for the night @DuncsOT #OTalk https://t.co/QwcnQJBcmz |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: Does this give a distorted view of OT in other areas? #otalk https://t.co/SmzgPKWUkW |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @lottie01: #OTalk evaluation is a key aspect of our work and how we make sense of what we do to explain our purpose and intervention |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @ellram_OT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek is goal attainment the outcome, rather than an outcome measure. Or maybe its all semantics? #otalk |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT @POPPED_Project @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek I didn't realise I did haha not sure how I managed all those characters #otalk |
![]() | Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8 @DuncsOT Info from practice might be saying ‘yes’ but research in a wider context might provide good evidence to suggest a different way #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Mine too @POPPED_Project maybe something in the air tonight..... #OTalk https://t.co/l6Wir9RyMj |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @ellram_OT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek In my setting, sometimes having previous evals on file is a trap for being lazy. #otalk |
![]() | grainne carley @gra_carley @POPPED_Project Same problem here! Maybe it didn't get enough caffeine today #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @ellram_OT @MichelleKeefe1 @AnaPire77988177 @OTalk_ @DuncsOT @hooper_ek although goal attainment scales have problems of reliability/validity for research nerds #otalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 @margaretOT360 Yes. It's because a lot is finance driven and discharges equate to money saving hy reduced bed blocking. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ I was wondering that too!! #OTalk https://t.co/vwkAh5Icfs |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @POPPED_Project Granny's craft group makes fidget blankets for dementia care homes. Buckles, buttons & zips sewn in #HandTherapy & Dressing practice #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT Why can information collected in practice not be considered formal? #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 It's a bit chicken and egg I find #otalk https://t.co/yxyL5qJf90 |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Approaches like COPM facilitate goal setting & outcome measurement & can be highly motivating for our SU’s #OTalk https://t.co/mnq8mTvLxT |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT #OTalk Exactly! So your practice and the evaluation of it could be equally useful to others. The value comes from the method used |
![]() | grainne carley @gra_carley Info from research needs to be enhanced with info from practice & adapted to your SUs & setting #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @DuncsOT: #OTalk Exactly! So your practice and the evaluation of it could be equally useful to others. The value comes from the method used |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: #OTalk Exactly! So your practice and the evaluation of it could be equally useful to others. The value comes from the method used |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy @lottie01 @margaretOT360 One of the reasons I love independent practice. No NHS Politics or budget constrains. It's pure OT. #OTalk |
![]() | Ana Pires @anapire77988177 @DuncsOT Easy way to collect data and make it easy to analyse and show progress to others. Involve client and caregivers into goal setting. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hooper_ek: Approaches like COPM facilitate goal setting & outcome measurement & can be highly motivating for our SU’s #OTalk https://t.co/mnq8mTvLxT |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @LynneGoodacre like the REQOL from sheffield - although is it much different from WHOQOL? #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @samjfordham @DuncsOT For us in the US, sometimes productivity is the biggest enemy. #otalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 If you are not focusing on client goals is it OT? #otalk https://t.co/3Jvsfszrma |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett @Jt12Truman @Uni_of_Essex @Jt12Truman We had 4 experience days in which we participated in weaving, cardboard art, wildlife photography & creative writing #OTalk |
![]() | Dr Niamh Kinsella @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT And the philosophical and theoretical principles underpinning it of course #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @NiamhKinsella: @DuncsOT Why can information collected in practice not be considered formal? #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @ChloeVincett: @Jt12Truman @Uni_of_Essex @Jt12Truman We had 4 experience days in which we participated in weaving, cardboard art, wildlife photography & creative writing #OTalk |
![]() | Sophie Maynard @SophieMaynard8 @DuncsOT Unfortunately in some services this is already happening & the skills we can provide are restricted due to “cost effectiveness” #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 Me too! #otalk if they don't like it they won't have it. #otalk https://t.co/M2oC7rJ63e |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @gra_carley I keep forgetting refresh thinking its quiet - must be decaffeinated myself #otalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @SophieMaynard8: @DuncsOT Unfortunately in some services this is already happening & the skills we can provide are restricted due to “cost effectiveness” #OTalk |
![]() | Chloe Vincett @ChloeVincett @Jt12Truman @Uni_of_Essex We then had to justify how & why we would use them with different populations. Including evidence, costings, session layout #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @samjfordham #OTalk Tx Sam - I think good eval as a type of research can be a powerful way of creating space. practice occupation show the results |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @SophieMaynard8 @DuncsOT Or in US, that would be things like therapy cap or number of Medicare days. #otalk |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Not familiar with it but true wco-production of item generation in development ensures SU priorities are integral to outcome measure #OTalk https://t.co/3YGQZVZStP |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ One last thing, remember to complete your reflective log after tonight’s talk https://t.co/daNin21Bap #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @samjfordham #OTalk Tx Sam - I think good eval as a type of research can be a powerful way of creating space. practice occupation show the results |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @samjfordham @DuncsOT And on the business side, if u are not productive, u are costing company $. But if you are very productive, hard to get things done. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @ChloeVincett: @Jt12Truman @Uni_of_Essex We then had to justify how & why we would use them with different populations. Including evidence, costings, session layout #OTalk |
![]() | Jackie Pottle @JackiePottleOT @OTalk_ @DuncsOT #otalk info from best practise has to be evaluated and then shared by research is best way to do that and then we can help more patients |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @NiamhKinsella: @DuncsOT And the philosophical and theoretical principles underpinning it of course #OTalk |
![]() | Margaret Spencer MA @margaretOT360 RT @OTalk_: One last thing, remember to complete your reflective log after tonight’s talk https://t.co/daNin21Bap #OTalk |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @samjfordham @DuncsOT I am not a fan of over 90% productivity because sometimes that means cutting corners to get things done for the day. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: Not familiar with it but true wco-production of item generation in development ensures SU priorities are integral to outcome measure #OTalk https://t.co/3YGQZVZStP |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT #otalk https://t.co/WkrLAHyJYn |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @JackiePottleOT: @OTalk_ @DuncsOT #otalk info from best practise has to be evaluated and then shared by research is best way to do that and then we can help more patients |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @LynneGoodacre 'REcovery and Quality Of Life' for mental health. getting its stats sorted & looking good. wish everyone would just agreee on 1 tho! #otalk |
![]() | JBOT - Jo Southall @JBOccyTherapy I feel like I got massively off track there so I've got some catching up to do. Thanks folks, great chat as always! #otalk |
![]() | Maggie Ruth Morton @SensationalOT Thanks all, happy #OTweek17 - see some of you at #cypf17? #OTalk https://t.co/dja6OtBAKU |
![]() | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Gosh the hour has gone quickly! Thanks @DuncsOT and @preston_jenny ... need to check my oven now (it’s drying oranges for Christmas!!)#otalk |
![]() | Lottie @lottie01 RT @OTalk_: One last thing, remember to complete your reflective log after tonight’s talk https://t.co/daNin21Bap #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @ChloeVincett @Uni_of_Essex Thank you will link with you outside if #OTalk to learn more |
![]() | David S. McGuire, OTR/L @davidsmcguire RT @margaretOT360: Assistive technology can be invaluable for increasing independence and reducing staff costs #otalk https://t.co/x3lNiKF4WU |
![]() | Dr Catriona Connell #OneOfUsAllOfUs @DrCConnell @NiamhKinsella @DuncsOT we're biased raters if we are also providing the treatment being evaluated #otalk |
![]() | Ellen OT @ellram_OT RT @OTalk_: One last thing, remember to complete your reflective log after tonight’s talk https://t.co/daNin21Bap #OTalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ Tweets are definitely going a bit strange tonight. Huge thanks to @DuncsOT for facilitating a very interesting discussion tonight #OTalk |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @samjfordham #Otalk maybe but your change a system from within. I think OT eval can refocus ideas of what therapy is and can achieve |
![]() | Dr Lynne Goodacre 💙 @LynneGoodacre Thanks @DuncsOT hope you enjoyed yourself, lots of things to reflect on #OTalk thanks also @preston_jenny |
![]() | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @samjfordham @DuncsOT And as someone who bounces around often for my work, it’s confusing and hard to provide consistent care to patients. #otalk |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @samjfordham #Otalk maybe but your change a system from within. I think OT eval can refocus ideas of what therapy is and can achieve |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: Thanks @DuncsOT hope you enjoyed yourself, lots of things to reflect on #OTalk thanks also @preston_jenny |
![]() | Duncan Pentland @DuncsOT @OTalk_ Thanks everyone and #OTalk full on but fascinating!!! |
![]() | #OTalk @OTalk_ RT @DuncsOT: @OTalk_ Thanks everyone and #OTalk full on but fascinating!!! |
![]() | Louise 💙 @NorwoodThreads @samjfordham @DuncsOT Agree- OT would (and does) thrive outside medical model of #NHS. Helpful to understand that model to communicate in our MDTs though 🙂 #OTalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @OTalk_ @DuncsOT Thank you thought provoking good to hear challenges, new perspectives, challenge self and reflect on what I would do differently #otalk |
![]() | Juliette Truman @Jt12Truman @NorwoodThreads @samjfordham @DuncsOT Yes many of our REP highlight #valueofOT and our unique perspective but if we are to survive in new arenas evaluation is key #OTalk |

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