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 | Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIlRTP @alisonlaverfaw will ask the questions, I'm going to try and keep up the chat & replies |
 | Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @dianecox61: #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIl… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @dianecox61: @elle9891 @joanne_inman @MaryBirken @AlexThompsonOT @MH4OT @RCOT_MH Join in with #OTalk tonight it may be discussed @OTalk_… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @dianecox61: 2nd day of cowriting - having think and walk before we start - very productful day yesterday @alisonlaverfaw - looking forw… |
 | OTalk @OTalk_ RT @dianecox61: #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIl… |
 | Pauline Beirne @NatLeadAHPCYP RT @dianecox61: #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIl… |
 | Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @dianecox61: #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIl… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Great to see you'll be joining us #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk time get your cup of tea 15 mins to go @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Was just getting the 15 minute warning ready but @dianecox61 is way ahead of us! 😁 Who's planning to join us tonight? #OTalk |
 | Tai Frater @tai_the_ot RT @dianecox61: #OTalk 1 hour to go before tonight's @OTalk_ still time to read the blog and think about the questions https://t.co/raUDMIl… |
 | OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OTalk_: Was just getting the 15 minute warning ready but @dianecox61 is way ahead of us! 😁 Who's planning to join us tonight? #OTalk ht… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Hi @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw just getting ready with Q1 #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ This is @colourful_ot here on the #OTalk account for tonight's chat (two weeks in a row!), looking forward to hearing from @alisonlaverfaw and @dianecox61 on assessments! |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Usual reminders for anyone looking to take part: don't be afraid to join in the conversation (though lurkers are also welcome!), use the #OTalk hashtag to make sure everyone following the chat can see what you've said, and keep professional standards for communication in mind 🙂 |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Hello everyone, welcome to #OTalk tonight, our first question is: What are we looking for in an assessment? |
 | Aideen Carroll @AideenKa @OTalk_ @dianecox61 #OTalk Hello. |
 | sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #OTalk I'm here hello everybody 👋🏾 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: Hello everyone, welcome to #OTalk tonight, our first question is: What are we looking for in an assessment? |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Welcome #OTalk |
 | Rachael @RachaelD_OT Evening all 👋🏻 #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ @colourful_ot @dianecox61 Welcome to the @OTalk chat tonight on assessment #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q1: a nice easy one would be nice, but assessment of humans never are, requiring complex skills and knowledge. One that enables us to consider how, when and where oh and very much why, more next tweet….#OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #OTalk information relating to...Risk, function, strengths, weakness... |
 | Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Hi everyone looking forward to tonight’s #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q1: a nice easy one would be nice, but assessment of humans never are, requiring complex skill… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q1: a nice easy one would be nice, but assessment of humans never are, requiring complex skill… |
 | Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk hi joining in for the first time in ages! When completing ax I’m looking for functional abilities and deficiencies to enable a plan |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk hi joining in for the first time in ages! When completing ax I’m looking for functional ab… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q1: to be sure it will gather the most accurate information about the person, their occupations within their environment #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sherlynmelody: #OTalk information relating to...Risk, function, strengths, weakness... https://t.co/fW9X1CqRt0 |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Looking to gain a picture of the person I am working with #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ The complexity makes assessment a challenge, I think OTs are often on the ‘holy grail‘ for the perfect one size fits all assessment, but in reality I think we need a toolkit of assessments for different purposes #OTalk @dianecox61 @OTalk_ @YSJOT |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Welcome gald you are joining us @Otalk @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk |
 | Lindsay Rook @LindsayOTPICU RT @alisonlaverfaw: @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ The complexity makes assessment a challenge, I think OTs are often on the ‘holy grail‘ for the… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I am looking for strengths, and most importantly what is the priority for the person #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT agreed, being prepared for an eclectic approach I think, humans don't fit in a box #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #OTalk activity analysis, the components of... |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Absolutely #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Point well made @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ #OTalk |
 | Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @alisonlaverfaw I think it's a bit of horses for courses - pick the assessment to gather the information you need. #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @margaretOT360 yes #OTalk person centred all the way!! Meaningful activities! |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @sherlynmelody @OTalk_ yes indeed @sherlynmelody and allows for assessment of family/carers - whoever else is involved in the person in their environments #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @emmaspellmanOT: agreed, being prepared for an eclectic approach I think, humans don't fit in a box #OTalk https://t.co/kWhj9nexcI |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @dianecox61: Point well made @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ #OTalk https://t.co/zbwIjFNAiO |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk hi joining in for the first time in ages! When completing ax I’m looking for functional ab… |
| Lindsay Rook @LindsayOTPICU @alisonlaverfaw For me, a great OT assessment indicates current functional ability/skills/motivation and can be repeated/used as an outcome measure to indicate change. #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @sherlynmelody: @margaretOT360 yes #OTalk person centred all the way!! Meaningful activities! |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk hi joining in for the first time in ages! When completing ax I’m looking for functional ab… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Great point - needs a focus a the persons needs #OTalk @OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @dianecox61 @OTalk_ blushing now, can't help but be passionate about importance of assessment tho, underpin our reasoning etc #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 A baseline measurement is essential to measure change #OTalk |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @LindsayOTPICU @alisonlaverfaw yes the baseline measure #otalk |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q1: a nice easy one would be nice, but assessment of humans never are, requiring complex skill… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk sensitivity to the desired and expected level of change is critical. If we use outcome measures that are not sensitive enough we run the risk of not picking up clinically or statistically significant changes -which could mean we are not showing the benefit of intervention |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk sensitivity to the desired and expected level of change is critical. If we use outcome measures that are not sen… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_KateT: @alisonlaverfaw I think it's a bit of horses for courses - pick the assessment to gather the information you need. #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: I am looking for strengths, and most importantly what is the priority for the person #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OT_KateT: @alisonlaverfaw I think it's a bit of horses for courses - pick the assessment to gather the information you need. #OTalk |
| Rachael @RachaelD_OT @alisonlaverfaw Flexibility... The ability to tailor the assessment to meet an individual’s needs rather than trying to make the individual fit the assessment. It needs to be person-centred #OTalk |
 | OTLovingLife @carspring27 @OTalk_ evening all...for an initial assessment I want to get a sense of the individuals voice and what occupations are valued by them...now and in the past and what they and their families want for the future #otalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @RachaelD_OT: @alisonlaverfaw Flexibility... The ability to tailor the assessment to meet an individual’s needs rather than trying to ma… |
 | RCOT_PLD @RCOT_PLD RT @RachaelD_OT: @alisonlaverfaw Flexibility... The ability to tailor the assessment to meet an individual’s needs rather than trying to ma… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 #OTalk Lovely to hear the person centred approach coming through with everyone’s answers |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Q2 A clear purpose; need to think why using it and needs to know its reliable and valid #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk |
 | Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @alisonlaverfaw Something that's important in my setting (acute MH) is that the assessment can be communicated effectively to the MDT whilst still maintaining an occupational focus - it's a tricky balance! #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Can you tell what you mean by dynamic assessments? @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw So important to have an accurate baseline for setting negotiated goals with the person, selecting the appropriate intervention and then to be able to evaluate change #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @margaretOT360: #OTalk Lovely to hear the person centred approach coming through with everyone’s answers https://t.co/Hjh7UY7Y75 |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: So important to have an accurate baseline for setting negotiated goals with the person, selecting the appropriate inter… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @dianecox61: Q2 A clear purpose; need to think why using it and needs to know its reliable and valid #OTalk https://t.co/Sg0Zj8eLNV |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT Q2: elements of observation of that person & their engagement with occupations; some element of rating I think whether standardised or non inc the person rating themselves where possible #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @dianecox61: Q2 A clear purpose; need to think why using it and needs to know its reliable and valid #OTalk https://t.co/Sg0Zj8eLNV |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RachaelD_OT: @alisonlaverfaw Flexibility... The ability to tailor the assessment to meet an individual’s needs rather than trying to ma… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @alisonlaverfaw: So important to have an accurate baseline for setting negotiated goals with the person, selecting the appropriate inter… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OccupationalFox: @alisonlaverfaw Something that's important in my setting (acute MH) is that the assessment can be communicated effecti… |
| Lindsay Rook @LindsayOTPICU @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ First and foremost it has to work for that individual in terms of their ability to engage in assessment. I work in acute MH and PICU so utilise a range of assessment tools for people at different stages of recovery. #OTalk |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox RT @carspring27: @OTalk_ evening all...for an initial assessment I want to get a sense of the individuals voice and what occupations are va… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 That's a great reply, #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @dianecox61: Q2 A clear purpose; need to think why using it and needs to know its reliable and valid #OTalk https://t.co/Sg0Zj8eLNV |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk it needs to involve the person, e.g. Copm. Tasks chosen by them. Taking into account barriers/facilitators |
 | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk for me assessments are about providing data to inform intervention plans, measure change, and provide evidence for the individual to help explain their situation. |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I really value self rating where possible. This can be done in so many ways that are not numerical #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LindsayOTPICU: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ First and foremost it has to work for that individual in terms of their ability to engage in ass… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: Q2: elements of observation of that person & their engagement with occupations; some element of rating I think whether… |
 | Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Sorry for being slightly late to the party. Been determined to catch an #OTalk for a few weeks now. I completely agree with comments so far. For me it’s a client centred method of gaining a persons occupational story from their perspective, really valuing their narrative. |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @dianecox61: That's a great reply, #OTalk https://t.co/1pM2uxU6ul |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 Q.2. What does an assessment need to have? Depends on the purpose of the assessment! I use an assessment to assist with activity analysis of previous work roles to help plan vocational rehab...cognitive assessments help to lead future cognitive rehab plans....#OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OccupationalFox: @alisonlaverfaw Something that's important in my setting (acute MH) is that the assessment can be communicated effecti… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 @OccupationalFox @alisonlaverfaw Yes communication key #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk Dynamic assessment uses an interactive procedure to observe and measure changes in a person’s behaviour or function that occur in response to mediation strategies, cues, feedback or task conditions - useful references see work by Haywood & Lidz, 2007; Toglia & Cermak, 2009 |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @LindsayOTPICU: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ First and foremost it has to work for that individual in terms of their ability to engage in ass… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk good outcome measure so we can see how effective it was. |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Yes me too #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Dynamic assessment uses an interactive procedure to observe and measure changes in a person’s behaviour or funct… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q2: the person’s informed consent also – relevance to them/their family/ carers if they are observing #OTalk |
 | IamAnOT @IamAnOT19 Tuesday evenings are when I’m a Scout Leader with @WarksScouts ⚜️Tonight we’re chatting about Scout Week, where we’ll promote our troupes & what we do. 🏕🔥 What am I missing on #OTalk ? |
 | Vicki Malcolm @vickiellenOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Something which is both an assessment and an intervention, by encouraging a client to reflect on their skills and motivation with a growth mindset. Personal fave is OCAIRS #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @emmaspellmanOT: Q2: elements of observation of that person & their engagement with occupations; some element of rating I think whether… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @carspring27: Q.2. What does an assessment need to have? Depends on the purpose of the assessment! I use an assessment to assist with… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sherlynmelody: #otalk it needs to involve the person, e.g. Copm. Tasks chosen by them. Taking into account barriers/facilitators https:… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Self-report assessments have really increased in recent years especially with the development of Patient Reported Outcome Measures (PROMS) and Patient Reported Experience Measures (PREMS) #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @vickiellenOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Something which is both an assessment and an intervention, by encouraging a client to reflect on… |
 | K-OT @kalessandram RT @OTalk_: This week we will be chatting all things assessment #OTalk https://t.co/m61Sy0TzLZ |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @margaretOT360 me too @margaretOT360 making our time with service users person centred #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @margaretOT360: I really value self rating where possible. This can be done in so many ways that are not numerical #OTalk https://t.co/R… |
 | Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark #otalk Hi all. So sorry I'm late and will need to dip in and out - family taking precedence tonight. |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Dynamic assessment uses an interactive procedure to observe and measure changes in a person’s behaviour or funct… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Yes one tool does not necessarily work for all people #OTalk @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @carspring27: Q.2. What does an assessment need to have? Depends on the purpose of the assessment! I use an assessment to assist with… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: Self-report assessments have really increased in recent years especially with the development of Patient Reported Outco… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @dianecox61: Yes one tool does not necessarily work for all people #OTalk @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/CbYFXVSWgR |
 | Odeth Richardson @OdethRichardson Need to ensure it covers what matters to the person #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw an assessment must have relevance, be suitable for administration to the person, provide data that is accurate and reliable and most of all be acceptable to the individual. |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT This is really interesting and something we were discussing last week - the interrelationship between assessment and intervention - any assessment has to have elements of meaning, purpose and value to clients, what are your thoughts? #OTalk |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @dianecox61 #otalk I work in post acute and my assessment are very basic and functional and often require support from extended family and Carer’s. I need to compare current and baseline function to inform POC |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q2: other considerations are cost of test (ex senior leader head flipped back on for a mo there); how much time it will take; our expertise and does it fit with our philosophy/theoretical perspective #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @sherlynmelody: #otalk it needs to involve the person, e.g. Copm. Tasks chosen by them. Taking into account barriers/facilitators https:… |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout @emmaspellmanOT @margaretOT360 And so add value to the interaction? #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @vickiellenOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Something which is both an assessment and an intervention, by encouraging a client to reflect on… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 1st rule of occupational therapy #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @vickiellenOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Something which is both an assessment and an intervention, by encouraging a client to reflect on… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @AliciaRidout: @emmaspellmanOT @margaretOT360 And so add value to the interaction? #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw Also the stroke efficacy scale I find really helpful to get the patients views and to show them when they improve #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk so here is the 3rd question: we have generated a lot of ideas of what we are looking for and what an assessment needs, so often we can’t find a test that delivers everything so what is the most IMPORTANT feature an assessment or measure has to have? |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alilou250969: @dianecox61 #otalk I work in post acute and my assessment are very basic and functional and often require support from ex… |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @vickiellenOT @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw #otalk absolutely reflect in practice all the time |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk so here is the 3rd question: we have generated a lot of ideas of what we are looking for and what an assessment… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @IamAnOT19 @WarksScouts Assessments! We've been talking so far about what we look for in an ax., with people highlighting things like the importance of person-centredness, a focus on function, and sensitivity to change, but also acknowledging that we need different tools for different situations #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is a good point. Students ask this quite a lot that - the philosophy and gold standard of OT can be challenging to achieve with these things you are discussing here Emma #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q2: other considerations are cost of test (ex senior leader head flipped back on for a mo there… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OTalk_: @IamAnOT19 @WarksScouts Assessments! We've been talking so far about what we look for in an ax., with people highlighting thing… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @OTalk_: @IamAnOT19 @WarksScouts Assessments! We've been talking so far about what we look for in an ax., with people highlighting thing… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk so here is the 3rd question: we have generated a lot of ideas of what we are looking for and what an assessment… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Exactly! #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @VikkiBarryOT: @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is a good point. Students ask this quite a lot that - the philosophy and gol… |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @OTalk_ @IamAnOT19 @WarksScouts #otalk also need to be aware of what our setting and service is offering |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #OTalk something that will enable client engagement, i think. Even if its something like using AMPS. That is a really cool Ax, i felt. |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q2: other considerations are cost of test (ex senior leader head flipped back on for a mo there… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alilou250969: @vickiellenOT @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw #otalk absolutely reflect in practice all the time |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk really interesting point @edenmarrison94 and I have been conducting a study related to #SOTOF and we held a focus group with the MDT on a stroke rehabilitation ward to find out what information from the SOTOF is useful & how they find it best to have this communicated |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk really interesting point @edenmarrison94 and I have been conducting a study related to #SOTOF and we held a focu… |
 | Pippa Simkins @PippaSimkins @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk...I am really struggling to do OT focused assessments in CMHT as unfortunately the Care Co-ordinator role dominates. I miss that about previous roles as the assessment process is much more generalised. |
 | Minh Tran @otramblings Hi sorry we are late!! 🐰 #otalk https://t.co/vllH6snduB |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OdethRichardson: Need to ensure it covers what matters to the person #OTalk https://t.co/YXGxu3R9kc |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @VikkiBarryOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ oh I hear you @VikkiBarryOT so important to effectively reason the needs / benefits to patient & service to those holding the purse strings - go occupational therapy power! #OTalk |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @mershy73 @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I feel like I'm still working it out to be honest! One method I've used when I'm doing a MOHOST and fed back in ward round is that I've always made sure I take the scoring into ward round as I feel it's a good visual to present the findings quickly #OTalk |
 | kerriephipps @kerriephipps1 RT @carspring27: Q.2. What does an assessment need to have? Depends on the purpose of the assessment! I use an assessment to assist with… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody How cuuute #otalk, hello lil wabbit. |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw How much choice is there realistically? Do services or electronic systems influence choice?? #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Yes self rating changes can do this as well #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @margaretOT360: 1st rule of occupational therapy #OTalk https://t.co/D9zViOBi5S |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk Proxy report assessments that gather information from family, carers, other staff, teachers etc.can be so valuable. It is also important to think about carers own needs, e.g. using measures like the Carers Strain Assessment |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @AliciaRidout: @emmaspellmanOT @margaretOT360 And so add value to the interaction? #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @VikkiBarryOT: @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is a good point. Students ask this quite a lot that - the philosophy and gol… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Q3: Great question - my background is in mental health so for me it is an assessment that enables and promotes therapeutic relationships as this in itself allows for the most precise and valuable assessment possible #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Proxy report assessments that gather information from family, carers, other staff, teachers etc.can be so valuab… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @VikkiBarryOT: Q3: Great question - my background is in mental health so for me it is an assessment that enables and promotes therapeuti… |
 | Ruva Mararike @OTRCM_ @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q2: A strong evidence base. It also needs to be tailored to meet an Individual’s needs by being relevant and culturally relevant for them. #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @otramblings Never too late for a furry friend to join us! #OTalk https://t.co/rpfh1VARq9 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: Q3: Great question - my background is in mental health so for me it is an assessment that enables and promotes therapeuti… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q3: so many important features but some person centred outcomes surely, at least plan of action so we can target person’s occupations in their environments #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw I think it is about demonstrating occupational re - engagement and the persons views about how this has improved their life #otalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @PippaSimkins @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk maybe we might need to chat more about this Pippa. I found being a care coordinator opened lots of opportunities for occupationally focused work. DM me if you want to chat further |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sherlynmelody: #OTalk something that will enable client engagement, i think. Even if its something like using AMPS. That is a really co… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q3: so many important features but some person centred outcomes surely, at least plan of action… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @emmaspellmanOT: @VikkiBarryOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ oh I hear you @VikkiBarryOT so important to effectively reason the needs / benefi… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk that’s what can be so useful about a dynamic assessment you can find out what mediation can be helpful, e.g. reducing the activity demand, using a verbal prompt, the need for physical cues. The information can help us to pitch the intervention at the ‘Just right’ level |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Yes agree it can be difficult - but there are measures and assessments we can evidence and use #OTalk @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Next question: What was the most useful tip you have for thinking about which assessment tool to use? #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @carspring27: @alisonlaverfaw I think it is about demonstrating occupational re - engagement and the persons views about how this has im… |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw This is something I've come upon as a newly qualified OT, I don't have much choice re assessments, it's very limited in terms of what standardised or evidence based assessments are available #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Yes - most certainly @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny For me it has to be reliability #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw otherwise what is the point if the data has no real meaning. |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk i assess people in their homes, mainly looking at their function. They know what they want help with. |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk for me personally, an important feature would be a section to record the initial Ax (baseline) with additional sections to record reviews/re-assessments |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @carspring27: @alisonlaverfaw I think it is about demonstrating occupational re - engagement and the persons views about how this has im… |
| Rachael @RachaelD_OT @alisonlaverfaw The assessment needs to capture what the individual feels they need/want... The assessment belongs to them, not me #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @otramblings: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk for me personally, an important feature would be a section to record the initial Ax (baseli… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @VikkiBarryOT @OTalk_ Q3: this in itself should lead to great therapeutic relationship & us ultimately being able to describe the person functional deficits; provide a baseline for interventions and evaluate our effectiveness #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Something that captures breadth and depth so a productive intervention can be developed #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: For me it has to be reliability #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw otherwise what is the point if the data has no real meaning. http… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Yes - I agree. Having assessments that do this are very important in my OT assessment toolkit #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Q4 - #OTalk acceptability and usability in the setting |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: Next question: What was the most useful tip you have for thinking about which assessment tool to use? #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: Yes - I agree. Having assessments that do this are very important in my OT assessment toolkit #OTalk https://t.co/3viDj… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @alisonlaverfaw @VikkiBarryOT #otalk that sounds good! Dynamic assessments 👍🏾 |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk the assessment needs to allow for a person centred plan |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk that’s what can be so useful about a dynamic assessment you can find out what mediation can be helpful, e.g. red… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT My most useful tip would be selecting an assessment that is the most suitable and reliable for the needs of the individual - on occasions this might not even become clear until doing the assessment itself #OTalk |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @OccupationalFox: @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw This is something I've come upon as a newly qualified OT, I don't have much choice re as… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 100% #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw An assessment tool needs to demonstrate what occupational disruption has occurred and what occupational Interventions can be utilised to restore balance #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk - yes all in one place @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw |
 | Hayley Green @HG1OT @alisonlaverfaw Ultimately you need to capture the client’s lives experience of participation in meaningful adl and the existence of barriers to this I believe #otalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @MOHOspark: #otalk Hi all. So sorry I'm late and will need to dip in and out - family taking precedence tonight. |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk can i say i am my best tool?? I do not use a standardised ax, just observations and listening to my service user. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: My most useful tip would be selecting an assessment that is the most suitable and reliable for the needs of the individua… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @dianecox61: Q4 - #OTalk acceptability and usability in the setting https://t.co/hb1ItAYRMP |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw Like this summary #OTalk |
| Odeth Richardson @OdethRichardson Agree the need to consider the environment. Enabling the engagement of the individual is also key. #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @VikkiBarryOT: This is really interesting and something we were discussing last week - the interrelationship between assessment and inte… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sherlynmelody: #otalk can i say i am my best tool?? I do not use a standardised ax, just observations and listening to my service user.… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk - absolutely: Top on my list are validity (does it measure what intends to) and reliability (both test-retest and inter-rather Reliability) - without these how do we know we are really assessing what we intend in a consistent way |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @HG1OT: @alisonlaverfaw Ultimately you need to capture the client’s lives experience of participation in meaningful adl and the existenc… |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk ask yourself will my client engage, will the assessment mean something to the client |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @carspring27: @alisonlaverfaw An assessment tool needs to demonstrate what occupational disruption has occurred and what occupational In… |
 | Alexandra Gaston @agaston4 RT @carspring27: @alisonlaverfaw An assessment tool needs to demonstrate what occupational disruption has occurred and what occupational In… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny What do you need to know? That’s my answer by the way not a rhetorical question 😂. #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Indeed @Preston_jenny, brilliant ! I'm feeling Deming (2000) now - the importance of gathering and measuring - make improvements visible to patients and us, monitor them, use a shared language with them - their stories - our expertise #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 30mins in already how do #OTalk go so fast. |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @sherlynmelody @OTalk_ #otalk therapeutic use of self |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @HG1OT: @alisonlaverfaw Ultimately you need to capture the client’s lives experience of participation in meaningful adl and the existenc… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @dianecox61: Q4 - #OTalk acceptability and usability in the setting https://t.co/hb1ItAYRMP |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @HG1OT: @alisonlaverfaw Ultimately you need to capture the client’s lives experience of participation in meaningful adl and the existenc… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @carspring27: @alisonlaverfaw An assessment tool needs to demonstrate what occupational disruption has occurred and what occupational In… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw But we do need to be careful that the flexibility is intended - OTs can be inclined to modify and ‘tweak’ assessments but then the standardisation is impacted and we can no longer be sure the assessment is valid and reliable #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Excellent point #Otalk @OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @sherlynmelody You can completely say you are your best tool - we are fundamental in assessment and therapeutic relationships hence gaining narrative about occupational circumstances, however does this make difficult in terms of relatability? #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OdethRichardson: Agree the need to consider the environment. Enabling the engagement of the individual is also key. #OTalk https://t.co… |
 | Michelle Gersh @mershy73 @margaretOT360 I agree. Self rating is really illuminating. It’s a tricky one to use with people who have low self esteem or reduced insight as self ratings wouldn’t necessarily always be accurate. #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: Yes - I agree. Having assessments that do this are very important in my OT assessment toolkit #OTalk https://t.co/3viDj… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: But we do need to be careful that the flexibility is intended - OTs can be inclined to modify and ‘tweak’ assessments b… |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ What assessments do you use that do this? Interested to learn more about them to help promote the value of OT! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk ask yourself will my client engage, will the assessment mean something to the client |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk ask yourself will my client engage, will the assessment mean something to the client |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: What do you need to know? That’s my answer by the way not a rhetorical question 😂. #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk i knew there was a name for it 😉 thanks @alilou250969 |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Yes yes yes @emmaspellmanOT #OTalk |
 | Kirsty @Kirsty_OT #OTalk Q3. Outcomes need to be personal and meaningful to the person. Giving them a chance to measure/score their own progress promotes #wellbeing and gives a sense of empowerment and control. #occupationaltherapy @OTalk_ |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk ask yourself will my client engage, will the assessment mean something to the client |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Indeed @Preston_jenny, brilliant ! I'm feeling Deming (2000) now - the importanc… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Next question 5. If learning /when you were learning about assessment and measures what would or did you want and need to know? #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @preston_jenny: What do you need to know? That’s my answer by the way not a rhetorical question 😂. #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw https://t.co/… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Yes I totally agree #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @emmaspellmanOT: @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw Indeed @Preston_jenny, brilliant ! I'm feeling Deming (2000) now - the importanc… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: Next question 5. If learning /when you were learning about assessment and measures what would or did you want and need… |
| Rachael @RachaelD_OT @alisonlaverfaw Personally, that’s why I prefer to begin with a non-standardised assessment. I use that to gather information and to begin to develop a therapeutic relationship. This often then paves the way for the use of standardised assessments/measures #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @alisonlaverfaw: Next question 5. If learning /when you were learning about assessment and measures what would or did you want and need… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: Next question 5. If learning /when you were learning about assessment and measures what would or did you want and need… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw Useful tips? I think go back to what is causing the occupational issue- what assessment tool will measure the person’s impairments and will allow us to monitor progress #OTalk |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox @mershy73 @margaretOT360 I come across this a lot, self rating can be empowering to help set goals for some but also a barrier for other people who don't believe in their ability to change or lack motivation due to mental health issues #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT I wanted to know which assessment to select and why. This is often what our students ask too. How do you know this? What influences your choice and how do you ensure it is client centred? #Otalk |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @Kirsty_OT: #OTalk Q3. Outcomes need to be personal and meaningful to the person. Giving them a chance to measure/score their own progre… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OccupationalFox: @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw This is something I've come upon as a newly qualified OT, I don't have much choice re as… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw Useful tips? I think go back to what is causing the occupational issue- what assessment tool will measu… |
 | Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83 RT @sherlynmelody: #otalk can i say i am my best tool?? I do not use a standardised ax, just observations and listening to my service user.… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Completely agree! #OTalk |
| Pippa Simkins @PippaSimkins @OccupationalFox @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk.., I tend to use MOHO assessments as my baseline in previous roles in MH (MOhost more often than not as covers most of the domains). Then link that back to the care plan. The OT priority checklist is a good quick screen... |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw My thoughts exactly #OTalk |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw #otalk hmm my tip would be, when Unsure then do more than one Ax that will look at the same thing. Ie when looking at potential cognition impairments, I would use paper based Ax (ie Moca) + functional Ax to test cognition differently to give me more information |
| Lucy gordon @Lucygordon83 RT @RachaelD_OT: @alisonlaverfaw The assessment needs to capture what the individual feels they need/want... The assessment belongs to them… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw For measuring change I like AusTOMS as it can be used across a wide range of settings with different client groups. Goal Attaintment Scaling (GAS) can be useful #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q5: I wish I'd had more practical experience as a student #OTalk, I remember the feeling of my heart in my mouth when I 'hit the ground running' as newly qualified and I'd not had much experience of assessments, certainly standardised ones. #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: I wanted to know which assessment to select and why. This is often what our students ask too. How do you know this? What… |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @PippaSimkins: @OccupationalFox @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk.., I tend to use MOHO assessments as my baseline in previous… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q5: I wish I'd had more practical experience as a student #OTalk, I remember the feeling of my… |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout RT @alisonlaverfaw: For measuring change I like AusTOMS as it can be used across a wide range of settings with different client groups. Goa… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk If we are looking at person centred care & care act, we are there to document their narrative and fit interventions around that 🙋🏾 |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 WE need to be clear that if we change the toll its no longer valid in that setting #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: For measuring change I like AusTOMS as it can be used across a wide range of settings with different client groups. Goa… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is so true - students need and want opportunities to practically carry out assessments #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: For measuring change I like AusTOMS as it can be used across a wide range of settings with different client groups. Goa… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: But we do need to be careful that the flexibility is intended - OTs can be inclined to modify and ‘tweak’ assessments b… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk - absolutely: Top on my list are validity (does it measure what intends to) and reliability (both test-retest an… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk really interesting point @edenmarrison94 and I have been conducting a study related to #SOTOF and we held a focu… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @sherlynmelody Completely 👍 #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 That’s a whole solution focused debate to have #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: Self-report assessments have really increased in recent years especially with the development of Patient Reported Outco… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Dynamic assessment uses an interactive procedure to observe and measure changes in a person’s behaviour or funct… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: So important to have an accurate baseline for setting negotiated goals with the person, selecting the appropriate inter… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk I agree that it is important to build rapport with the person, and that informal interviews and observations can be very valuable, but is this enough for the commissioners of your service? How do you demonstrate reliably that outcomes have been achieved? |
 | Lelanie @LelanieBrewer I completely agree #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw Useful tips? I think go back to what is causing the occupational issue- what assessment tool will measu… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk ha ha tell me about it, i hit the ground face first...i was the female version of Homer Simpson 🤦🏾♀️ |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I agree that it is important to build rapport with the person, and that informal interviews and observations can… |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @OccupationalFox @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk our initial Ax allows us to record what the person did previously and then what they are doing now after our Ax, the O-log allows this, West mead PTA etc |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @VikkiBarryOT: @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is so true - students need and want opportunities to practically carry out a… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @VikkiBarryOT: @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ This is so true - students need and want opportunities to practically carry out a… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @emmaspellmanOT: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Q5: I wish I'd had more practical experience as a student #OTalk, I remember the feeling of my… |
| Pippa Simkins @PippaSimkins @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Yes so true. My recommendation for that is work in lots of different settings after qualification and then you get an experience of using all types of assessment. #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I’m always interested in knowing about the test, how it has been validated and with which client groups. Then for me it is about properly knowing how to administer, score and interpret results #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT That is just what my comments were below. We of course need to ensure this and therapeutic self is fundamental but the reality is measurable outcomes are what is needed in the workplace of occupational therapy today #OTalk |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @VikkiBarryOT @OTalk_ #otalk good use of supervision and peer support but also be aware what your setting supports |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw No its not enough! And we need to demo how valuable our work is so measuring is part of this....#OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: I’m always interested in knowing about the test, how it has been validated and with which client groups. Then for me it… |
| Kathryn Fox @OccupationalFox I agree, more practical experience, knowing the basics and how to use the assessment effectively would be useful in training, its something that I've learnt on the job rather than been taught for the most part #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw Somewhere there must be a balance between demonstrating outcomes for commissioners of services and having that quality of interaction with people that truly demonstrates patient centred care. #otalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Definitely agree with this @Kirstie_OT #OTalk |
| Lelanie @LelanieBrewer Absolutely agree @dianecox61 #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk I start with considering why am I assessing so the purpose (descriptive, discriminative, predictive or evaluative - or a combination of purposes). Then what do I want to assess (ICF can be useful for framing this - e.g. participation?). |
| Aideen Carroll @AideenKa @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk I agree @emmaspellmanOT. I feel I have little experience carrying out standardised assessments and I'm a student. I know the theory behind them but have little experience using them in practice. |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk - absolutely: Top on my list are validity (does it measure what intends to) and reliability (both test-retest an… |
 | Iain Stringer Works @IainWorks @PippaSimkins @OccupationalFox @otramblings @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ I use the MOHOST (profile and/or single observation) too for neuro/physical conditions, along with COPM #OTalk Both incorporate occupation-focused wants/needs/priorities |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @preston_jenny: I’m always interested in knowing about the test, how it has been validated and with which client groups. Then for me it… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @PippaSimkins @VikkiBarryOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ That is great advice @pippaSimkins rotational posts are good for this I think - observe/get experience doing different assessment #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OccupationalFox: I agree, more practical experience, knowing the basics and how to use the assessment effectively would be useful in tr… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @PippaSimkins: @VikkiBarryOT @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ Yes so true. My recommendation for that is work in lots of differen… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @AideenKa: @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk I agree @emmaspellmanOT. I feel I have little experience carrying out standard… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Great starting point for students #Otalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk I recommend Asher’s Annotated index of OT assessment tools (4th edition) published by AOTA to my students. They report this is very useful - contains brief critiques of lots of standardised assessment |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I recommend Asher’s Annotated index of OT assessment tools (4th edition) published by AOTA to my students. They… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I recommend Asher’s Annotated index of OT assessment tools (4th edition) published by AOTA to my students. They… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk I can see where they need the support. I prescribe lots of equipment, minor major adapts. i revisit and they say "its much better" ✅ |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Feedback from clients and photographic evidence of change #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 @OccupationalFox Good point - often you need time to understand the variety of tools and assessments to know what might be useful in the setting or to dhow the persons needs and change #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I start with considering why am I assessing so the purpose (descriptive, discriminative, predictive or evaluativ… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ 10 minutes to go for tonight's chat! Hasn't the hour flown by? 😀 #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OccupationalFox those of us in academia need to note that and take action - increase occupational therapy assessment practice not leave it to placement. We have done this recently at my workplace #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @LelanieBrewer: Absolutely agree @dianecox61 #OTalk https://t.co/eukXFN68RT |
 | Austin Claffey @austinclaffey @alisonlaverfaw How to apply the findings! #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 That’s why identifying what the clients wants to change is crucial #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @OccupationalFox I went for training to use BADS within my PhD. What a difference it made to my confidence in the use of the assessment and in the interpretation of the results #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #Otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @austinclaffey: @alisonlaverfaw How to apply the findings! #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I recommend Asher’s Annotated index of OT assessment tools (4th edition) published by AOTA to my students. They… |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk totally ditto! |
| Rachael @RachaelD_OT @alisonlaverfaw Should the commissioners be at the forefront of our minds? Do we run the risk of using standardised assessments and measures for statistics, rather than because that’s what best for the individual? It’s tricky #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OTalk_: 10 minutes to go for tonight's chat! Hasn't the hour flown by? 😀 #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I recommend Asher’s Annotated index of OT assessment tools (4th edition) published by AOTA to my students. They… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @margaretOT360: Feedback from clients and photographic evidence of change #OTalk https://t.co/joWVfsH7tB |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk Commissioners like repeat assessment ratings & goal attainment scoring, but they respond to narratives too, so don't rule out satisfaction surveys as outcome measures. We also need to pull assessment information together into clear formulations that explains the goal focus |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw #otalk i guess i could ask how do u feel about doin somethin b4 equipment, then how do you feel about it after |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @austinclaffey: @alisonlaverfaw How to apply the findings! #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 I think is a valuable debate. #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MOHOspark: @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk Commissioners like repeat assessment ratings & goal attainment scoring, but they respond… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Most definitely - not only is the practical side of administration important but also the reflection, discussion, evaluation and learning the range of assessments #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I used to take the assessments home from work and practice on my family members! It was a good way to learn but not always the most reliable experience #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Lelanie @LelanieBrewer I’m late to the #OTalk party tonight but I’m interested in the validity & the appropriateness of the assessment. This includes financial implications & best use of resources for all parties concerned. |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @preston_jenny: @OccupationalFox I went for training to use BADS within my PhD. What a difference it made to my confidence in the use o… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @emmaspellmanOT: @OccupationalFox those of us in academia need to note that and take action - increase occupational therapy assessment p… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: I used to take the assessments home from work and practice on my family members! It was a good way to learn but not alw… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: Most definitely - not only is the practical side of administration important but also the reflection, discussion, evaluat… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @margaretOT360: That’s why identifying what the clients wants to change is crucial #OTalk https://t.co/5AEEZaS23Q |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @margaretOT360 It certainly is #Otalk |
| Alicia Ridout @AliciaRidout @RachaelD_OT @alisonlaverfaw Commissioners do lots of background work and review evid before writing service specs...if theres no evidence...#OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @VikkiBarryOT: Most definitely - not only is the practical side of administration important but also the reflection, discussion, evaluat… |
 | H Collis @2DoBeDo @OccupationalFox @OTalk_ Hello just joining #OTalk for first time! I'm half way through my OT degree and feel totally unskilled at using assessments. Hoping that the next placement will bring opportunities. |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @MOHOspark: @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk Commissioners like repeat assessment ratings & goal attainment scoring, but they respond… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody @AliciaRidout @carspring27 @alisonlaverfaw #otalk that is @ a low level & cases will b more complex but im able to use myself in those cases |
| Aideen Carroll @AideenKa @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk does anyone else have advice on learning how to use assessments when you are a student on placement? I want to be able to make the most of my placement experiences. |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @2DoBeDo @OccupationalFox @OTalk_ I’m sure it will! Hopefully you will find the chat useful tonight #OTalk |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk I recommend to therapists and students to role play test administration to be confident in how to administer and score before using in practice. We have 2 role plays for #SOTOF used for training to learn about the assessment. |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 Yes and No - we need to choose the right measures and assessments to meet the needs of the people we are supporting and use this data for commissioners, so one toll for many requirements #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @margaretOT360 #OTalk i am aware of similar debates for ot practitioners in USA that have to justify their practice to insurance companies...in some ways it forces reliance on evidence based Interventions but can reduce the "softer" relational skills which can't always be measured |
| Lelanie @LelanieBrewer I found assessing underlying causes of difficulties useful in Paeds especially when communicating with my colleagues however this was always complemented by home & school visits #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk I recommend to therapists and students to role play test administration to be confident in how to administer and… |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw #OTalk Final question for the last few minutes: Do you have a particular resource, website or book that you use that you find helpful and would recommend to OT students and colleagues? |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @VikkiBarryOT: Most definitely - not only is the practical side of administration important but also the reflection, discussion, evaluat… |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Final question for the last few minutes: Do you have a particular resource, website or book that you use that yo… |
| Minh Tran @otramblings @AideenKa @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk gather Ax that you can and practice on your peers/family/friends. I had lots of fun doing this during uni, esp all the cognitive Ax. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @alisonlaverfaw: #OTalk Final question for the last few minutes: Do you have a particular resource, website or book that you use that yo… |
| Lelanie @LelanieBrewer I agree #OTalk |
| OTLovingLife @carspring27 @preston_jenny @alisonlaverfaw Me too! #OTalk |
| Rachael @RachaelD_OT @AliciaRidout @alisonlaverfaw I agree... but then service specs are open to change... so, we are constantly in a position of having to justify what we are doing and why. It never really ends... I can’t help but feel trying to produce statistics takes us away from person centred practice... #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @preston_jenny: I used to take the assessments home from work and practice on my family members! It was a good way to learn but not alw… |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw I’ve done that before, I used the moca as a family Xmas activity and practice putting knickers on with a long handled grabber with friends #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Perhaps if there is another student also on placement at the same time you could practice with/on each other? #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Iain Stringer Works @IainWorks RT @preston_jenny: #OTalk for me assessments are about providing data to inform intervention plans, measure change, and provide evidence fo… |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk The OT Toolkit |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk can't believe time almost up - so many people in the chat tonight Alison & I have loved your responses @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @AideenKa @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ could you ask for practical sessions with your programme lead, personal tutor and/or peer group supervision at uni? perhaps ask that assessments used on your next practice placement are demonstrated as part of induction to you @AideenKa good luck #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @LelanieBrewer: I found assessing underlying causes of difficulties useful in Paeds especially when communicating with my colleagues ho… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @dianecox61: #OTalk can't believe time almost up - so many people in the chat tonight Alison & I have loved your responses @alisonlaver… |
| sherlyn graham @sherlynmelody #otalk the only time i think of commissioners is when i doubt what i have prescribed but then i use clinical reasoning to justify it. |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @LelanieBrewer: I’m late to the #OTalk party tonight but I’m interested in the validity & the appropriateness of the assessment. This i… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT It’s been a great chat thanks ladies #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk The OT Toolkit |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @VikkiBarryOT: It’s been a great chat thanks ladies #OTalk https://t.co/j2H13kwhK4 |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny 😂😂😂 I love it @alilou250969 that brings a whole new dimension to the Christmas games #OTalk @alisonlaverfaw |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @alilou250969: @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #otalk The OT Toolkit |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @emmaspellmanOT @OccupationalFox #OTalk So pleased to hear this. I'm waiting for the day when universities decide that (given that OT is not diagnosis-led) students can learn about health conditions on placement and use the time that would be devoted to this at uni, to teach more occupation-focused practice. |
| Alison Laver-Fawcett @alisonlaverfaw Me too! When I was first working and sharing a flat in London,my flat mates used to let me practice standardised assessments with them in return for me getting a round or two of drinks in at the pub afterwards!! #OTalk |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @VikkiBarryOT: It’s been a great chat thanks ladies #OTalk https://t.co/j2H13kwhK4 |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @MOHOspark: @emmaspellmanOT @OccupationalFox #OTalk So pleased to hear this. I'm waiting for the day when universities decide that (give… |
| Aideen Carroll @AideenKa @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ #OTalk thank you @emmaspellmanOT I like those ideas 🙂. |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT We certainly do this at Huddersfield! Occupation focused all the way @MOHOspark #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk 26th February 2019 – My Journey thus far towards Advanced Clinical Practice https://t.co/xY1e1zcEku |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk 26th February 2019 – My Journey thus far towards Advanced Clinical Practice https://t.co/x4tuCveB7M |
| H Collis @2DoBeDo @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw You've just given me inspiration for our next OT society activity! Practicing assessments on each other to familiarise ourselves in a non-pressured environment. 👍 #OTalk. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Thank you @dianecox61 and @alisonlaverfaw for starting such interesting discussions! 😀 #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @OTalk_: #OTalk 26th February 2019 – My Journey thus far towards Advanced Clinical Practice https://t.co/xY1e1zcEku |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 #OTalk seem to remember that evening! |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @OTalk_: #OTalk 26th February 2019 – My Journey thus far towards Advanced Clinical Practice https://t.co/x4tuCveB7M |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @alisonlaverfaw @OTalk_ You have provided us with so much valuable information and guidance to resources already @alisonlaverfaw - will be reflecting and taking action on all this for weeks! #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @OTalk_: Thank you @dianecox61 and @alisonlaverfaw for starting such interesting discussions! 😀 #OTalk https://t.co/V3Hc2sQ9aV |
| Prof Diane Cox @dianecox61 RT @OTalk_: Thank you @dianecox61 and @alisonlaverfaw for starting such interesting discussions! 😀 #OTalk https://t.co/V3Hc2sQ9aV |
 | Rach_OT @RachelOT7 RT @Kirsty_OT: #OTalk Q3. Outcomes need to be personal and meaningful to the person. Giving them a chance to measure/score their own progre… |
| Lelanie @LelanieBrewer Absolutely! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @2DoBeDo: @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @alisonlaverfaw You've just given me inspiration for our next OT society activity! Practicing assessmen… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Very much so! Much appreciated @alisonlaverfaw and @dianecox61 #OTalk |
| Nicola Oddy @alilou250969 @OTalk_ @dianecox61 @alisonlaverfaw Thank you everyone, good night #otalk |
| Austin Claffey @austinclaffey @alisonlaverfaw @preston_jenny But also have OMs that reflect our interventions #OTalk |
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