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 | OTalk @OTalk_ Welcome to #Otalk Research. Whether you have experience of using pilot studies, in the process of designing a pilot study or would like to learn more to help you evaluate studies, hopefully you'll find tonight's chat useful. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Say "hello" if you are joining us this evening and don't forget the #Otalk |
 | Angelyn Easton @AngelynJEaston @OTalk_ Hello #Otalk, just lurking |
 | Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Hi everyone, really looking forward to tonight's #Otalk though slightly nervous being on this side of the account with @NikkiDanielsOT |
 | Zahra Mansha @ZahraManshaOT @OTalk_ Hello! 👋 #OTalk |
 | Laura Occupational Therapist @Bsidebaby_ @OTalk_ lurking #OTalk |
 | Emma Hooper @hooper_ek @OTalk_ Evening all. Glad to be able to join the chat this evening #OTalk |
 | Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Hello! #OTalk |
 | Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre Hi everyone - great to be back in 2019 with #otalk research |
 | Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Good evening everyone. First OTalk in a while. Good to be back :-) #OTalk |
 | Becky Cooper @beckycooper___ @OTalk_ Hello 👋🏻 #otalk most likely lurking tonight! |
 | Izzie LR @OTizzie @OTalk_ hello #OTalk 👋 Student OT here doing my dissertation on a feasibility study proposal (so not quite a pilot study but still interesting to join in!) |
 | OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Hello I'm here and looking forward to this chat and learning #OTalk https://t.co/3pcivKiLB8 |
 | Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @OTalk_ Noswaith Dda pawb, evening all #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Icebreaker question this evening. What does the term 'pilot study' mean to you? #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Let’s get started with the first question. Question 1 What does the term ‘pilot study’ mean to you and what do you think are the main reasons for conducting a pilot study? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @emmaspellmanOT Hi Emma! Lots of learning tonight hopefully #Otalk |
 | Suzanne Henshall @Suze17 @OTalk_ Hello 👋 #Otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @OTizzie Or is it? I'm sure all will become clearer during the #Otalk chat @preston_jenny |
 | Student Platform OT @SPOTeurope @OTalk_ Hello!! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Here's the first question tonight from @preston_jenny #Otalk |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie @OTalk_ Anyone confused between pilot/feasibility?! While writing my diss. I realised the terms are often misused. I think a pilot study implements all pieces of a study together to assess how well the components will work whereas a feasibility study tries out parts of a study #OTalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Pilot study...I think of testing out. Maybe your questions for example. To a smaller initial sample. #OTalk |
| Angelyn Easton @AngelynJEaston @OTalk_ Is it like a starting point to a wider area of research? #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Anyone got any thoughts on @OTizzie question? #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT Q1: I think small scaled down version of the real thing and a try-out of research proposal – at least maybe some elements of it #OTalk |
 | carol duff @carolfish32 @OTalk_ Hi #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Good point @OTzzie, even the MRC Framework for evaluation complex interventions uses the terms interchangeably #OTalk |
 | Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT I’m thinking to test the feasibility &acceptability of your research/trial question if looking at conducting a trial? #OTalk |
| Suzanne Henshall @Suze17 @OTalk_ I’m thinking it’s about trying out your proposed method of research in practice in a mini way, to identify things you might need to tweak, alter or amend before you do the main one? #otalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Good point @OTizzie .... add field trials into the mix too & it can feel confusing! #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: Good point @OTzzie, even the MRC Framework for evaluation complex interventions uses the terms interchangeably #OTalk ht… |
| Becky Cooper @beckycooper___ @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT #otalk completing a small scale study prior to wider scale research to determine feasibility and to highlight any changes that need to be made? |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @OTizzie @OTalk_ Ah I think I’m guilt of using these terms interchangeably! #OTalk |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie @OTalk_ @preston_jenny I'd say they are different from the literature I've read defining them but both come under the term preliminary study. From talking to people, however, I do think researchers see them as the same...!! #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ @OTizzie is feasibility when you work out the potential pitfalls and strengths of a project and something that you might wasn't to use in the workplace more? #OTalk - off top of my head so apologies if wrong |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Might there be specific aspects of the research/trial that you might wish to test @mirnoonanOT #OTalk |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT When I hear ‘pilot study’, I think of a small scale preliminary study to ascertain whether crucial components of an intervention or study design are feasible etc. for a further large scale study. So an essential building block for research #OTalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Is feasibility about practicality? Can you recruit enough, can you do it in time etc. Pilot study could include things like, do your questions allow you to gather the data you need to answer the research question. Will it do what you think it will do, a practice run? #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Perhaps we might have some examples from researchers who have carried these out? Help us with some context to understand the difference or if indeed there is a difference? #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT When I hear ‘pilot study’, I think of a small scale preliminary study to ascertain whether… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @EllenChisman: Is feasibility about practicality? Can you recruit enough, can you do it in time etc. Pilot study could include things li… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Any thoughts? #Otalk |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny What first comes to mind is the outcome measures, how many and what outcomes to measure, is what I’m thinking of using acceptable to the population I’m conducting the research with? What is the recruitment process like - easy/difficult? #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre This is how I think of it as well @EllenChisman the clue is in the word 'feasible' #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @LynneGoodacre: This is how I think of it as well @EllenChisman the clue is in the word 'feasible' #otalk https://t.co/juZezMePZU |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Moving on to the next question.Can you tell us about your experiences of conducting, observing or taking part in a pilot study? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @mirnoonanOT: @preston_jenny What first comes to mind is the outcome measures, how many and what outcomes to measure, is what I’m thinki… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @mirnoonanOT: @preston_jenny What first comes to mind is the outcome measures, how many and what outcomes to measure, is what I’m thinki… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Lots of great reasons for carrying out pilots and lots of questions raised already that hopefully we can explore further this evening #OTalk |
 | Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo @Bsidebaby_ @OTalk_ #OTalk lurking too.... Good evening everyone!.... |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Question 2 #OTalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre I think this is where the confusion lies - because of the word feasible - so if I pilot a questionnaire I want to know some very specific things about it which are broader than the word feasible #OTalk |
 | Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT RT @OTalk_: Lots of great reasons for carrying out pilots and lots of questions raised already that hopefully we can explore further this e… |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT RT @preston_jenny: Moving on to the next question.Can you tell us about your experiences of conducting, observing or taking part in a pilot… |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie @EllenChisman I think that is one really big distinction yes! And there are different areas that can be addressed to identify practicality such as acceptability (of an intervention), demand, implementation and more #OTalk |
 | Iris Benson MBE @irisbenson100 RT @carolfish32: @OTalk_ Hi #otalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @LynneGoodacre: This is how I think of it as well @EllenChisman the clue is in the word 'feasible' #otalk https://t.co/juZezMePZU |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre So as part of pre -validating a questionnaire the pilot study might explore things like do people understand the questions, is anything missing, is it too short/too long, are the choices for answering the questions right etc #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: So as part of pre -validating a questionnaire the pilot study might explore things like do people understand the questio… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT Useful for exploratory stage of research, findings from that guide researcher to more explanatory focus #OTalk |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @LynneGoodacre Good point. I'm just about to pilot a questionnaire and as part of this will be assessing the construct and content validity. I'll get back to you once I've figure out how to do it! #OTalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Q2: I had a pilot for my MSc research. Testing my interview schedule and skills. Been a subject in a pilot study at work for using a particular OT assessment #OTalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek I was involved in a field trial where we were testing the feasibility, acceptability & tolerability of a complex intervention prior to RCT #OTalk @preston_jenny @OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Previous research required closed questions in a survey, in pilot I asked open ended questions in interviews & answers generated fixed choice answers which shaped closed questions for the main #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OTizzie: @EllenChisman I think that is one really big distinction yes! And there are different areas that can be addressed to identify… |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT Hello folks! joining late because of a phone call #otalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Good points :-) #otalk @OTizzie |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT It means to me that it is a study that is considered as a test of concept- evidence might be scarce. #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Anyone any experience of doing this? #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny You sound like you have some experience of this @emmaspellmanOT, is there any good advice that you can share with others #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @hooper_ek: I was involved in a field trial where we were testing the feasibility, acceptability & tolerability of a complex interventio… |
| Suzanne Henshall @Suze17 @OTalk_ I was the ‘treating OT’ for a feasibility /pilot study being undertaken from Nottingham University on early intervention Vocational Rehab in traumatic Brain injury. #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny What did the feasibility study tell you @hooper_ek and how did that inform your actual study #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @emmaspellmanOT: @OTalk_ Previous research required closed questions in a survey, in pilot I asked open ended questions in interviews &… |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Great example Emma. Do you think sometimes this way of using a pilot study is confused with mixed methods research? #otalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT teeny tiny experience compared to OT researchers in our wide OT community of practice @preston_jenny - I will continue to tweet what potential useful nuggets spring to mind #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: You sound like you have some experience of this @emmaspellmanOT, is there any good advice that you can share with others… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Do you have any learning to share with us @Suze17 #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @LynneGoodacre Definitely, feasibility is a catch all term for the evaluation of pilot studies. Others have mentioned other important concepts which sit under this feasibility umbrella e.g adherence, acceptability. I think we can be clear that pilot studies don’t evaluate effectiveness #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT oooh, never thought of it that way @NikkiDResearch. for me its a definite means of testing a part of whole of research design #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny @emmaspellmanOT Brilliant @emmaspellmanOT we are all learning and all experiences are equally valid #Otalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT Can you elaborate @BillWongOT What do you mean by test of concept? #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @YmchwilStroc: @LynneGoodacre Definitely, feasibility is a catch all term for the evaluation of pilot studies. Others have mentioned oth… |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek It led to tweaks to the outcome measures, the intervention materials and the study sites. It was useful. #otalk @preston_jenny @OTalk_ |
 | Michelle Perryman @Symbolic_Life RT @preston_jenny: Might there be specific aspects of the research/trial that you might wish to test @mirnoonanOT #OTalk https://t.co/dXLP… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @preston_jenny: @emmaspellmanOT Brilliant @emmaspellmanOT we are all learning and all experiences are equally valid #Otalk @NikkiDaniels… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @NikkiDanielsOT test of concept means- the concept has not been proven, as it is still in exploratory stages. #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested https://t.co/BEN1z4nvox #otalk |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @NikkiDanielsOT @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ A very interesting point! #OTalk |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @YmchwilStroc @LynneGoodacre Definitely not a purpose, often misunderstood! Run before you can walk! #otalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek I wonder if anyone who has identified the need for changes during a pilot / feasibility then re-pilots the altered protocol or whether you go straight onto the wider scale study? #otalk @preston_jenny @OTalk_ |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Thank you for this :-) #otalk @LynneGoodacre |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Great discussion tonight and we’ve already started to consider this but what are the main benefits observed from pilot studies? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @emmaspellmanOT @NikkiDResearch I think it's both and essential those closed questions evolve transparently. I used focus group data to develop a closed questionnaire but mine is a 2 phase mixed methods study #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @hooper_ek: I wonder if anyone who has identified the need for changes during a pilot / feasibility then re-pilots the altered protocol… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Any thoughts? #OTalk |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @NikkiDanielsOT @LynneGoodacre Do you think questionnaire ‘piloting’ in this sense sits neatly in the pilot study mould? In essence construct and content validity are about questionnaire effectiveness #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Thanks for sharing @LynneGoodacre Download and add to your reading list #Otalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman I think it depends on extent to which you are making changes? May be a good idea. I was told if they are substantial then for one thing you may need to go through ethics again. #otalk @hooper_ek |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre Hmm interesting point @hooper_ek when I piloted a questionnaire we made some changes as a result of the pilot and tried it out with a few people but not as many as the original pilot #OTalk I guess the question is at what point do you stop piloting |
 | Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden @EllenChisman @LynneGoodacre Feasibility Studies are pieces of research done before a main study in order to answer the question “Can this study be done?”; Pilot studies are a version of the main study that is run in miniature to test whether the components of the main study can all work together. #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT in my limited practical experience but knowledge from study I think that, right there is a great use of a pilot, I think I'm doing something similar pilot focus group analysed results will shape a questionnaire and one to one interviews #OTalk |
| Will Chegwidden @willchegwidden (From the document posted by @LynneGoodacre - great summary #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @NikkiDanielsOT: @emmaspellmanOT @NikkiDResearch I think it's both and essential those closed questions evolve transparently. I used foc… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Good question @YmchwilStroc and does that introduce a potential difference in the use of 'piloting' between quantitative and qualitative methodologies (somewhat provocative here, sorry) #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @hooper_ek @preston_jenny @OTalk_ The RCT that I am using for secondary analysis piloted the intervention and made some tweaks. One example being one resource was titled: caregivers resource and the feedback was that is should be changed to family and friends resource which it was for the main trial #OTalk |
| Suzanne Henshall @Suze17 @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT There were things highlighted that hadn’t been anticipated or eg difficult recruiting pts in some sites, challenges associated in working across different organisations & clinicians interpreting things differently in different sites-all good learning & informd alterations?#OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OTalk_: Thanks for sharing @LynneGoodacre Download and add to your reading list #Otalk https://t.co/8csKqeYufI |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OTalk_: Any thoughts? #OTalk https://t.co/joIpfKs5yU |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Well that answers that question @willchegwidden, great succint summary #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre I agree @YmchwilStroc I see construct and content validity as something which is tested in the main study #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Good example @mirnoonanOT thank you for sharing #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @willchegwidden: @EllenChisman @LynneGoodacre Feasibility Studies are pieces of research done before a main study in order to answer the… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @mirnoonanOT: @preston_jenny What first comes to mind is the outcome measures, how many and what outcomes to measure, is what I’m thinki… |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Exactly @LynneGoodacre ... I guess it’s coming to a collaborative decision to move forwards rather than perpetually piloting #OTalk |
 | Claire Murphy @Incredhead @LynneGoodacre @BJOTeditor Sorry forgot the #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Excellent examples @Suze17, this is exactly what the pilot study is intended to do #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: I agree @YmchwilStroc I see construct and content validity as something which is tested in the main study #OTalk https:/… |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT @OTalk It was a great learning experience and opened my eyes to the importance of why pilot studies are important. #OTalk |
 | Andrew Bateman @DrAndrewBateman RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @hooper_ek: Exactly @LynneGoodacre ... I guess it’s coming to a collaborative decision to move forwards rather than perpetually piloting… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT I think I am missing lots of tweets from participants to this chat - having IT trouble perhaps - looking forward to seeing these at some point and continuing the learning #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: Excellent examples @Suze17, this is exactly what the pilot study is intended to do #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/K… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @Incredhead @LynneGoodacre @BJOTeditor Happens to the best of us 😀 #Otalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @preston_jenny: Excellent examples @Suze17, this is exactly what the pilot study is intended to do #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/K… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OTizzie: @EllenChisman I think that is one really big distinction yes! And there are different areas that can be addressed to identify… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny It is hard to keep up @emmaspellmanOT, I'm stuggling a bit tonight too but the discussion is great with some fantastic examples of learning and sharing #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Lots of great discussions going on tonight @emmaspellmanOT so it is hard to keep up! The transcript will help if we've all been good and used the #Otalk 😀 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: It is hard to keep up @emmaspellmanOT, I'm stuggling a bit tonight too but the discussion is great with some fantastic e… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Where is the time going tonight? Are we ready for Question 4 What, if any, are the challenges in relation to pilot studies? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @preston_jenny: It is hard to keep up @emmaspellmanOT, I'm stuggling a bit tonight too but the discussion is great with some fantastic e… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: Well that answers that question @willchegwidden, great succint summary #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/nkUQs0m3Jh |
| Andrew Bateman @DrAndrewBateman #OTalk I have just noticed, are discussing research. the next meeting with BSRM in October in Warwick promises to be a great event... |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT Switching to Mac now but it might be network #OTalk @OTalk_ 🙋🏻 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ It's been a great discussion and its going fast! Any challenges to share? #Otalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @OTalk_: It's been a great discussion and its going fast! Any challenges to share? #Otalk https://t.co/0yemlzJRsl |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT lurking for the remainder of the check... see you guys next week. #otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre When you're recruiting from a small pool of potential participants not using them all up in the pilot #OTalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek We realised that we’d included a caregiver measure that was validated for over 65s but some caregivers were adult children under 65y/o so needed to be replaced. #OTalk @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT Time! #OTalk |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Q4 time, resources, knowing what to do afterwards with what you have found/learnt. As mentioned earlier, when do you stop piloting. Maybe designing it as well if some things are to be found/developed e.g. in grounded theory #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Thanks @ozcboss #OTalk discusses research on the first Tuesday of the month. Do join us or perhaps you might even consider hosting a chat. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @ozcboss Thanks for sharing. First Tuesday of every month our chat focuses on a research topic so feel free to join us #Otalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT My colleague and I conducted a small pilot physical health and exercise programme in a first episode psychosis service. There were feasibility elements to it but we wanted to test all elements of the study and intervention and used it to apply for subsequent funding #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Very good point @LynneGoodacre #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Another excellent example, thanks for sharing @hooper_ek #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Q4: When you ask a question in the pilot and there’s an uncomfortable silence, can feel bad but useful as you know not to ask that in the real study or modify it #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @NikkiDanielsOT Q3: current pilot proving useful to practice the data analysis method in my current pilot that I will use for main #OTalk |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie RT @OTizzie: @OTalk_ Anyone confused between pilot/feasibility?! While writing my diss. I realised the terms are often misused. I think a p… |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @NikkiDanielsOT Q3: Pilot also useful for building up trust with potential participants in the ‘real’ study #OTalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek I’m wondering if anyone has experienced challenges with publishing the outcomes of pilot studies? #otalk @preston_jenny @OTalk_ |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie RT @OTizzie: @EllenChisman I think that is one really big distinction yes! And there are different areas that can be addressed to identify… |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Were you successful with the funding bid @Incredhead and were you able to conduct the study? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
 | Shirley Reynolds #FBPE @DrS_Reynolds RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
 | Theresa Travis @s9tmt RT @preston_jenny: Another excellent example, thanks for sharing @hooper_ek #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/wAhHsFizk5 |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre Design in a great point for sure - needing to be clear about exactly what you are wanting to find out through the pilot and ensuring its design will explore those issues #OTalk |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT I used a group of PhD researchers to pilot focus group. Fabulous learning and made essential changes. Used this group so as not to pull from a potentially small population in the main study. Turned out the first real focus group with the real participants was greater value #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @emmaspellmanOT: @preston_jenny @OTalk_ @NikkiDanielsOT Q3: current pilot proving useful to practice the data analysis method in my curr… |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT I guess theres a temptation not to pilot if short on time?!? Not condoning it....just saying! #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I feel like I’m rushing now but now for our final question of the night. How do you know if you have done enough piloting to execute a larger scale study? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Miriam Noonan @mirnoonanOT @NikkiDanielsOT That’s the worry isn’t it. I’ve heard this being discussed before! #OTalk |
| Izzie LR @OTizzie RT @preston_jenny: Good point @OTzzie, even the MRC Framework for evaluation complex interventions uses the terms interchangeably #OTalk ht… |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @NikkiDanielsOT @LynneGoodacre I’ve not seen the term pilot or feasibility applied in ‘questionnaire’ or PROMs research as you would need a pre-defined sample size etc. to determine construct or content validity. Too small a sample and the stats won’t work. So not really piloting #OTalk |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT So in effect I did 2 pilots! #otalk #phdlearning |
 | Cara Lawrence @caralawrence This is all looking really interesting just joined will have to have a look through! #otalk |
 | Faith Martin @fam6 RT @LynneGoodacre: Here's a link to an NIHR document that explains the diff between feasibility and pilot studies for anyone interested htt… |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre we reported this in the paper for the main study rather than as a paper in it's own right #OTalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Or perhaps there is also a risk that pilot studies don’t go beyond this stage into a wider study? #otalk @NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Last question of the evening! #Otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny RT @LynneGoodacre: we reported this in the paper for the main study rather than as a paper in it's own right #OTalk https://t.co/po3kr4OCOe |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @caralawrence Its been a very informative chat. Lots of questions answered and raised #Otalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @mirnoonanOT @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT Also money/funding. We convinced our management team to provide limited funds for a small pilot study and used this to leverage additional funding for a subsequent larger study. However this was not enough to implement all our learning and recommendations from pilot #Otalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @preston_jenny: Another excellent example, thanks for sharing @hooper_ek #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/wAhHsFizk5 |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @preston_jenny: Very good point @LynneGoodacre #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/vnvjehDIYR |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Its been a great chat tonight @caralawrence some excellent real life examples being shared. I can't wait to read the transcript #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT RT @LynneGoodacre: we reported this in the paper for the main study rather than as a paper in it's own right #OTalk https://t.co/po3kr4OCOe |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @hooper_ek @preston_jenny Good point. I'm sure both happen a lot! #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny I think that is a very real risk @hooper_ek and such a pity #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT @YmchwilStroc @LynneGoodacre Interesting Alex. I'm going to have to revisit this tomorrow and get my thinking cap on. I engaged a statistician in my protocol and calculated the sample size needed. It was a strict requirement by my supervisory team #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Q5: I'm reliant right now on my brilliant PhD supervisors, I'm constructing a pilot report and will await their guidance on sufficiency or not #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @preston_jenny: I think that is a very real risk @hooper_ek and such a pity #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/0wEtPhSPqo |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre before you even get to using the questionnaire in the main study @YmchwilStroc questionnaires are usually piloted, once the items have been generated, with a small number of people to check that the questions can be understood etc etc #OTalk |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT When you succesfully obtain funding to run the large scale trial? 😆 #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ 5 minute warning. Keep the comments coming. So much learning tonight #OTalk |
| Nikki Daniels @NikkiDanielsOT RT @OTalk_: 5 minute warning. Keep the comments coming. So much learning tonight #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT @OTalk_ Q5: the only other consideration I have is going back to purpose of pilot and whether or not pilot, in the end, has met that, perhaps this might guide thoughts on sufficiency #OTalk |
| Cara Lawrence @caralawrence @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT Really interesting! I am wondering where to go next in the research career! (Early days) but such an important part of our work #otalk |
| Emma Hooper @hooper_ek Sorry jumped the gun on this question with my previous comment about perpetual piloting! Possibly the requirements of the funders / timeline help to move it forwards in a timely way. #otalk @preston_jenny @OTalk_ |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny As a PhD supervisor we always get the blame!! What factors do you think might be taken into consideration? #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #OTalk – 12th February 2019 – TBI and Cognitive rehabilitation: https://t.co/j30ROg7laZ |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @preston_jenny @NikkiDanielsOT Initial funding was 10 participants for 8 week pilot from management team. Dietitian & Physios gave support for free for pilot. Based on the report we got yearly funding for 24 people but not enough to buy in dietitians. Physio was able to continue to help out at no cost #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ The pilot study can be a very important part of the research process so thanks you to everyone for your contributions; it is great to have learnt so much this evening and have some reading to do to learn some more #OTalk |
| OTEmmaS @emmaspellmanOT PhD supervisors rock @preston_jenny hugely grateful for time and support, hard job #OTalk |
| Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc @LynneGoodacre Definately! I find these tend to be more qualitive, focus group type explorations as opposed to statistical analyses of construct validity etc. Would be interested if you have contrary examples #OTalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny Can't argue with that @YmchwilStroc. Sounds like you have been successful with your finding bid. Congratulations #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre thanks also to @NikkiDanielsOT and @preston_jenny for making us think at this time of night! #otalk |
| Angelyn Easton @AngelynJEaston @OTalk_ Thanks all this was really interesting to follow! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ That's it folks! Please do keep chatting. Thank you very much to @preston_jenny for leading with tonight's questions. Goodbye from @NikkiDanielsOT on the #Otalk account |
| Ellen Chisman @EllenChisman Thank you to the hosts and to everyone for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Good discussion! #otalk |
| Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny It's a brilliant job! I learn so much from my PhD students and I'm always so proud of their achievements #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT |
| Theresa Travis @s9tmt RT @preston_jenny: I think that is a very real risk @hooper_ek and such a pity #OTalk @NikkiDanielsOT https://t.co/0wEtPhSPqo |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @EllenChisman Thank you for joining us #Otalk |
| Dr Lynne Goodacre @LynneGoodacre can't think of any contrary examples at the moment @YmchwilStroc certainly qual but when I've done this it's been more 1:1 than focus groups #Otalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @hooper_ek @NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny Also in clinical settings the learning from pilot studies is not shared more widely so other services do not have the opportunity to learn from the pilot or develop a larger study. Or the report never even gets written up! #otalk (May or may not be talking from experience!!) |
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