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 | Emma Hall @Emm_OT Hi everyone, thanks for joining #OTalk tonight! Here's to a thought provoking discussion about outcome measures! So leading us into the topic, it'd be good to think about why it's important to measure outcomes within occupational therapy?#outcomemeasures |
 | OTalk @OTalk_ Tonight’s #otalk is hosted by .@Emm_OT and team @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT https://t.co/2RBOfmsrsC |
 | Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken #otalk question one...its a good one.. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Please remember your code of ethics and professional conduct during the chat tonight and respect the views of others. #otalk |
 | Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie Join tonight's #OTalk on outcome measurement in mental health OT! |
 | Alison Clements @a_clemo @Emm_OT Evidencing that our interventions are leading to positive change for the service user and that we are effective in our interventions #OTalk #outcomemeasures |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Who’s online for tonight’s #otalk? It’s @GillyGorry on the account for support tonight if you need anything. |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT Evidencing that our interventions are leading to positive change for the service user and that we are effective in our… |
 | Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Great first question! I think there are a few reasons but fundamentally to determine whether intervention has been successful, whether changes need to be implemented and whether people have achieved their meaningful goals #OTalk |
 | Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @MaryBirken: Occupational therapists working in mental health: this weeks otalk is a must! #OTalk - Mental Health Occupational Therapy… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @OTalk_ @GillyGorry Hi @GillyGorry hope your well #OTalk |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT Hi! I am online for tonight’s #otalk |
 | Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @OTalk_ @YvetteHaynesOT @GillyGorry #otalk evening all |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: Great first question! I think there are a few reasons but fundamentally to determine whether intervention has been succes… |
 | Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT Q1. #OTalk OM’s useful for evidencing effectiveness of service, accountability, potential funding and resource implications. |
 | Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @OTalk_ @GillyGorry Evening all #OTalk 👋 |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken #otalk question one- I agree, its important to determine and record if people's goals were met. |
 | Samantha Pywell @smileyfacehalo RT @kerri_schOT: very interesting topic about #mentalhealth for tonight’s #otalk https://t.co/gEPg4RNGDt |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Important first question ? Why is it important to have outcome measures within occupational therapy? #otalk |
 | Katie @Katie_Next @Emm_OT To show the value of OT. Promoting the impact as well as assessing the effectiveness of our interventions! #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT #OTalk I agree with evidencing effectiveness of service - important for resource implications for sure! |
 | ElspethOT @Els_OT @Emm_OT I think there are different answers to this question depending on who you are measuring outcomes for. Its important to measure outcomes as it builds the evidence base for the profession, but its also important from a more client centred perspective... #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @VikkiBarryOT @GillyGorry Hello, I am indeed, hoping you are too? #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @libby_fincham @GillyGorry Hi Libby, DM if you need any help 😊 #otalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @Emm_OT #OTalk and that OT delivers value for the service, and to evidence to commissioners about the progress and benefit for clients. |
 | Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ to demonstrate our value for money & unique contribution to commissioners! #OTalk |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @Emm_OT To establish if service objectives are being met and to evaluate if we’re providing a safe and effective service; quality assurance #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Completely agree with this - do you think OM are twofold? #OTalk |
 | Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT having a bit of a lurk at tonight’s #otalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken Resource implications is important reason to demonstrate outcomes, I agree. If outcomes are positive and save money and resources- can lead to more OTs in teams! #OTalk |
 | #Hellomynameis Yvette @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT They may also provide evidence that informs future service provision #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @OTizzie @GillyGorry Lurking is a productive pass time in the world of #otalk feel free to join in as well, DM if you need anything |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ To demonstrate #valueofOT #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT #Otalk most certainly our unique contribution - this is what commissioners look for! |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT To show the value of OT. Promoting the impact as well as assessing the effectiveness of our interventions! #OTalk |
 | Bethany Orr @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT It’s fantastic to show service-users their progression by involving them in outcome measure results #IncreasedSelfEsteem #OTalk |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @Emm_OT: Hi everyone, thanks for joining #OTalk tonight! Here's to a thought provoking discussion about outcome measures! So leading us… |
 | Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT @VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to measure/ who the recipient of the information is? #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Very important #OTalk |
| Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT To show the value of OT. Promoting the impact as well as assessing the effectiveness of our interventions! #OTalk |
 | Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Emm_OT #OTalk apologies for joining late - I got caught up in planning my OT mother-in-law's 90th birthday! |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @sarahwilsonOT: @VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to me… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Completely agree. Clients should also know how we measure outcomes and why we do it. #otalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT Absolutely, it can foster a real sense of achievement #OTalk |
 | catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008 Demonstrating to service users that they are improving is important too, especially when they feel hopeless and worthless #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT Yes there’s nothing to suggest we only need to use one - most important is ensuring it’s of benefit to the service user #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: #Otalk most certainly our unique contribution - this is what commissioners look for! https://t.co/i6gKtRySKP |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk especially with some service user groups where change can be very subtle, it supports reflection and can enhance hope and volition |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT I think it’s really important so that we can establish whether intervention has had a positive impact, and it also assists in evidencing this to the client we are working with too, demonstrating their development and encouraging active participation in Occupational Therapy #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: @sarahwilsonOT Yes there’s nothing to suggest we only need to use one - most important is ensuring it’s of benefit to the… |
| Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT RT @OTalk_: Completely agree. Clients should also know how we measure outcomes and why we do it. #otalk https://t.co/opjAW6sRW4 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Emm_OT: Absolutely, it can foster a real sense of achievement #OTalk https://t.co/9mlxeC0Wra |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @CMcnall44919008: Demonstrating to service users that they are improving is important too, especially when they feel hopeless and worthl… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sarahwilsonOT: @VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to me… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Certainly does - empowering quality #OTalk |
| Katie @Katie_Next @VikkiBarryOT Very true! Always important to have the service users fully involved in their outcome measurement. #OTalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT So should we be measuring hope as an outcome? #otalk |
| Alison Clements @a_clemo @OTalk_ I have found it really enhances SU engagement when we can show that progress is being made! #OTalk #outcomemeasures |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Emm_OT #OTalk Q1 To motivate the people we work with by providing better feedback, and even help them to set own goals To evidence our services - have we made a difference? should we change what we do? Last & least - to meet organisational expectations |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT #otalk nothing worse than measures than have no benefit to client- can make one feel like a statistic |
 | Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken #otalk I am late lurker been listening to the parliamentary debates |
| catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008 Yep different OMs can be important for different reasons. What outcomes matter to patients might differ to those that matter to commissioners?#OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Interesting question #otalk |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @howell_lucy: @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT #otalk nothing worse than measures than have no benefit to client- can make one feel like a s… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Hope is actually a huge factor in terms of volition, choice and confidence and can determine potential achievement #Otalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT So... did the planned intervention do what it was intended to and to what extent, be that from a service user, financial, service delivery, perspective #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken #OTalk will focus now on mental health... Catch up with conversation |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken @cathymc9781 Oh dear! #otalk will be much cheerier! |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MOHOspark: @Emm_OT #OTalk Q1 To motivate the people we work with by providing better feedback, and even help them to set own goals To e… |
| Bethany Orr @OT_Bethany Fantastic discussions tonight on #OTalk 8-9pm! #mentalhealth |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @howell_lucy: @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT #otalk nothing worse than measures than have no benefit to client- can make one feel like a s… |
| Katie @Katie_Next @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Ohhh, very interesting question! I'm currently doing remotivation work with a service user and I can definitely see a change in his hope, but this isn't evidenced anywhere! #OTalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Absolutely-outcomes are not just about the absence of disease or improvement as sometimes these cannot be changed, but one’s feeling of hope or quality of life can still be an important outcome 👍#OTalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @MaryBirken @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk a person's perception of hope can be gathered and encouraged, then becomes part of remotivation process - just seen an initial client today who left with hope about the future |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @VikkiBarryOT: Hope is actually a huge factor in terms of volition, choice and confidence and can determine potential achievement #Otalk… |
 | Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @Emm_OT I think it can be encouraging for clients to be able to see how much progress they've made, especially with self-report tools like the COPM or OSA #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sarahwilsonOT: Absolutely-outcomes are not just about the absence of disease or improvement as sometimes these cannot be changed, but o… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Katie_Next: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Ohhh, very interesting question! I'm currently doing remotivation work with a… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_Bethany: Fantastic discussions tonight on #OTalk 8-9pm! #mentalhealth |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sarahwilsonOT: So... did the planned intervention do what it was intended to and to what extent, be that from a service user, financial… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @VikkiBarryOT: Hope is actually a huge factor in terms of volition, choice and confidence and can determine potential achievement #Otalk… |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MOHOspark @Emm_OT #OTalk need to capture the stuff that matters to people families.. friends... not just tick organisational outcome boxes... |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT Using OM’s can help us secure future funding to ultimately provide better service provision for our service users #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @colourful_ot: @Emm_OT I think it can be encouraging for clients to be able to see how much progress they've made, especially with self-… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk Good question. I think we should we should measure a broad range of factors that influence occupational participation, including volitional factors such as personal causation (appraisal of ability + expectation of success which is linked to 'hope') |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @VikkiBarryOT: Hope is actually a huge factor in terms of volition, choice and confidence and can determine potential achievement #Otalk… |
 | Edward Duncan @easduncan @Emm_OT To get an assessed sense of whether or not the intervention is making a difference. #OTalk this information could be of value to a wide range of stakeholders. Not least the person receiving the intervention, but also the practitioner and the service. |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @howell_lucy @OTalk_ @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT Definitely. I think thats why it's important to work collaboratively so that the outcomes are pertinent and meaningful to our clients #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Couldn’t agree more #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Can this one be a challenge in practice if under organisational pressures? #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @Katie_Next: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Ohhh, very interesting question! I'm currently doing remotivation work with a… |
| Bethany Orr @OT_Bethany RT @MOHOspark: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk Good question. I think we should we should measure a broad range of fact… |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT I'm possibly going off on a bit of a tangent but thinking about hope reminds me of the CHIME framework for mental health recovery; it would make sense to get an idea of how hopeful someone is feeling if you were considering those factors https://t.co/X8ZcMY4Un0 #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @howell_lucy: @MaryBirken @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk a person's perception of hope can be gathered and encouraged, then becomes part of… |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @MandyGrahamOT: @Emm_OT Using OM’s can help us secure future funding to ultimately provide better service provision for our service user… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @easduncan: @Emm_OT To get an assessed sense of whether or not the intervention is making a difference. #OTalk this information could be… |
 | carol duff @carolfish32 @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT I agree if we don’t measure difference we can make we don’t stand a chance bring commissioned #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @colourful_ot: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT I'm possibly going off on a bit of a tangent but thinking about hope reminds… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Yes! And I'll be making sure my student has understanding of this too, I feel it's a key element to successful goals. #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @Katie_Next @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Except when you as the occupational therapist says this is what is happening which is good and evidence in itself because you are who you are and that is your judgement... #OTalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT We need to be prepared to respond to data that demonstrates that what we are doing has not been effective and look to change our service provision accordingly #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @cathymc9781: @Katie_Next @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Except when you as the occupational therapist says this is what i… |
 | Claire Murphy @Incredhead @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT #Otalk agree with this point. It can be beneficial when we use OMs that serve the dual purpose of demonstrating the effectiveness of our interventions to funders and enable service users to see their progress thus helping self esteem, motivation etc! |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @howell_lucy: @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Yes! And I'll be making sure my student has understanding of this too, I feel i… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sarahwilsonOT: We need to be prepared to respond to data that demonstrates that what we are doing has not been effective and look to ch… |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Thanks for that Carolina - will take a look when we have finished! #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @OTalk_ #OTalk Sadly OTs are very pressured by multiple demands. My view is that negotiating goals helps OT be more targeted and effective so saves time; that many occ. assessments are themselves part of the therapy process; and that satisfaction surveys are fairly quick to do |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2 #OTalk. Challenges include personal and subjective nature making it hard to be standardised and tangible outcomes which can be easily measured. |
| Katie @Katie_Next @Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organisation only having one set outcome measure) and the changeable nature of mental health! I'm finding all of these true in practice! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MOHOspark: @OTalk_ #OTalk Sadly OTs are very pressured by multiple demands. My view is that negotiating goals helps OT be more targete… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Q2: Resources, funding the usual suspects of challenges although I always find myself following this up with - how can we overcome this to ensure we are providing the best service we can given these challenges? #OTalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high level and at interpersonal level, it can be difficult to prioritise what to measure. #otalk |
 | RCOT N&Y Region @RCOTNYRegion Several of our committee members @VikkiBarryOT @MandyGrahamOT @a_clemo are joining in #OTalk tonight - why don’t you join us too! @OTalk_ Tonight’s topic is outcome measures in mental health |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organis… |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @VikkiBarryOT: Q2: Resources, funding the usual suspects of challenges although I always find myself following this up with - how can we… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MaryBirken: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high leve… |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @Ruth_Hawley @OTalk_ That subjectivity can be so hard to capture #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk I always liked the term personal causation... brilliant concept.... and links to hope for me... Sometimes working with people we carry hope for them... |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @RCOTNYRegion: Several of our committee members @VikkiBarryOT @MandyGrahamOT @a_clemo are joining in #OTalk tonight - why don’t you joi… |
 | Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ In generic roles it can feel difficult to find the right reason or moment to use OT outcome measures #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @howell_lucy @VikkiBarryOT @sarahwilsonOT #OTalk agree here... |
| Katie @Katie_Next @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Yes! Often I find though that when working within the remotivation process the outcomes are so small it can be difficult to evidence and we need to shout about our practice more at this point! #OTalk |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Yes, and I think something that came up in Q1 as well is that different outcomes will matter to different stakeholders; I feel like that's especially true in mental health because people we work with can have very different priorities than their families or professionals #OTalk |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @OTalk_ @Emm_OT Q2: Barriers include: finding an outcome measure that captures the data required accurately? Time constraints/other pressures/priorities? Training issues? Resources/access? #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT The right reason? Do you mean to in terms of managing the generic role alongside? #Otalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Maybe we don’t have to over complicate things...unless the OMs we use are routine and part of daily practice / data collection we often can’t sustain measurement #OTalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT RT @Lizzie_OT: @OTalk_ @Emm_OT Q2: Barriers include: finding an outcome measure that captures the data required accurately? Time constraint… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk @Emm_OT |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie Q2 "What are the challenges to using outcome measures within mental health practice?" #OTalk ...there are many! |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk another challenge I found in practice was impact of having generic role and not always doing OT focused interventions which influenced when it felt appropriate to use OT focused OM. |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @Lizzie_OT: @OTalk_ @Emm_OT Q2: Barriers include: finding an outcome measure that captures the data required accurately? Time constraint… |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk choosing the most appropriate outcome measure from the huge number of possibilities. Often we see OTs using measures which evaluate changes in diagnosis/symptoms rather than occupational performance. Also choosing a measure which captures client goals not the OTs goals! |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @easduncan: @Emm_OT To get an assessed sense of whether or not the intervention is making a difference. #OTalk this information could be… |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @colourful_ot: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT I'm possibly going off on a bit of a tangent but thinking about hope reminds… |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT RT @Incredhead: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk choosing the most appropriate outcome measure from the huge number of possibilities. Often we see OT… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT RT @Incredhead: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk choosing the most appropriate outcome measure from the huge number of possibilities. Often we see OT… |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @MOHOspark: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk Good question. I think we should we should measure a broad range of fact… |
| Katie @Katie_Next @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I agree about tangible outcomes! #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark Got excited and forgot to add the hashtag! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #otalk |
 | Rupert Leslie @hoffiOT @MOHOspark @OTalk_ Agreee. Interestingly I met with a commissioning officer today who will be reviewing the effectiveness of the service I'm part of. He spoke mainly about capturing impact on wellbeing, community engagement and improved role engagement. #OTalk |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I think some OT’s lack confidence in using outcome measures - not knowing what OM would be best to use within their service. The good news is we can all help by sharing ideas / best practice about OM’s @otalk #otalk |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @MaryBirken: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high leve… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @RCOTNYRegion: Several of our committee members @VikkiBarryOT @MandyGrahamOT @a_clemo are joining in #OTalk tonight - why don’t you joi… |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @hoffiOT: @MOHOspark @OTalk_ Agreee. Interestingly I met with a commissioning officer today who will be reviewing the effectiveness of t… |
| Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT I'm not normally 'doing OT' so I'm not looking to measure the impact of an OT intervention. In my role specifically we also have a bunch of other measures we have to do and people often express displeasure at being asked to complete assessments #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sleepOTsophie: Q2 "What are the challenges to using outcome measures within mental health practice?" #OTalk ...there are many! https:/… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @otalk And #oTalk just like this one too |
 | Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ It depends on the settings as to what is expected to be used as outcome measures. Previously MOHOST screening tools used 6 monthly at CPAs scattered throughout the year, now in another post required to do the same however all reviews take place over a week every 6 months #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @hoffiOT: @MOHOspark @OTalk_ Agreee. Interestingly I met with a commissioning officer today who will be reviewing the effectiveness of t… |
 | #hellomynameis Sharon @mcmorrow_sharon @Emm_OT I’m sorry I’m late to this discussion tonight, so many interesting tweets to catch up on! #OTalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Did he suggest ways of capturing those?! These are definitely priorities in terms of the Personalised Care agenda and ones where we as OTs play a huge role #OTalk |
| catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008 Totally agree with Kate's point. Depends hugely on the reason for our contact #OTalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk absolutely. It’s so important to find out what is really important for the client and what they hope to get from OT intervention. I find GAS great as the goal is the clients and focuses intervention but the scores can be really useful for communicating to others |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @OT_KateT Ah I understand so it’s the pressures of the generic role v’s OT specific work? @Ruth_Hawley has just tweeted something very similar #OTalk |
| Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT RT @Incredhead: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk choosing the most appropriate outcome measure from the huge number of possibilities. Often we see OT… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Incredhead @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk Absolutely - that's why it's so important to choose wisely, and set your expectations - writing a goal-setting and assessment protocols if possible as a statement of intent - to help audit your use of outcome measures, and to take into account generic responsibilities |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @Katie_Next @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Yes its hard to find something that is relevant to individual's goals but also comparable between people! There are iPROMs, which let the person pick what areas the goals are in, but if someone picks something hard or easy to change it makes it less comparable.#OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @libby_fincham @OTalk_ @GillyGorry Hello Libby #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ The beauty of the #ot #Otalk community is there willingness to share #communityofpractice ❤️ |
 | Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ It's also about balancing our OT outcome measures with the many generic measures that need completing #OTalk |
 | Jo Probyn @probyn_jo @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @OTalk_ #OTalk #outcomemeasures - challenges in agreeing which outcome measure ( is there a strong evidence base), ease of use for patient and OT, where it’s recorded and how that data is used. |
| Alison Clements @a_clemo @VikkiBarryOT There are competing demands and the mandatory documentation takes priority when OT's are working in these roles. #OTalk #outcomemeasures |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @AmeliaHandyOT I heard of it through a lecture we had in college from @MidWestAries with speakers who had first-hand mental illness experience and who were now working with recovery groups; I feel like it's just a nice way of thinking about what people need from any therapy #OTalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken #otalk Q3: |
 | Suzanne Rastrick @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper you might find the #OTalk timeline of interest tonight. |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @MOHOspark @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also complete @MOHOspark case formulation/goal setting training to help with this task! #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @sleepOTsophie @Katie_Next @Emm_OT @OTalk_ iPROM’s....interested to know more #OTalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ @otalk From my perspective that's very true! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Gentle reminder to include the hash tag #Otalk in each tweet to ensure that they show up. Even I forget sometimes, but it will help us all follow. |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @a_clemo Very true - that’s a challenge for sure #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @Incredhead: @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk absolutely. It’s so important to find out what is really important for the… |
| Alison Clements @a_clemo @hoffiOT @OTalk_ @MOHOspark Good to hear #OTalk |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT #OTalk - that's one argument in favour of therapist rated assessments rather than client self report assessments then! Less stuff to fill in! I've encountered this too (although more in another non-OT guise!) |
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| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @Ruth_Hawley: @sleepOTsophie @Katie_Next @Emm_OT @OTalk_ iPROM’s....interested to know more #OTalk |
 | Rachel Booth @OT_rach @Emm_OT Sorry joining very late been out for dinner OT’s, have read a few reposes to Q1, all great, but for me is also a way to reflect on the process that your client has made with them, this is where you were this is where you are now, that’s you and your hard work!! #OTALK |
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| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @sleepOTsophie: @Katie_Next @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Yes its hard to find something that is relevant to individual's goals but also… |
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| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @VikkiBarryOT @OT_KateT #OTalk pressures and also about whether appropriate to do an OT focused outcome measure on the work you have done acting as a generic worker. |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @sleepOTsophie @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT Tricky to balance that with wanting to be as client-centred as possible though! #OTalk |
 | Hannah @hannahSchl @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ For sure. Ive tried sending out but response is low and getting pt to complete in session feels like unfair pressure on them. #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_rach: @Emm_OT Sorry joining very late been out for dinner OT’s, have read a few reposes to Q1, all great, but for me is also a wa… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT #OTalk Being person-centred involves having a range of assessments - some that are therapust-rated and are less intrusive, and a variety of others so that we can choose those that make sense to the individuals |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT The most common ones I used were MoHOST and OSA in practice #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @JessikaLack_OT: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ It depends on the settings as to what is expected to be used as outcome measures. Previously MOHOST scr… |
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| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @YvetteHaynesOT @OTalk_ I definitely see that constraint working in acute plus often the community teams just don't have enough OT's to continue this in the community #OTalk |
| Edward Duncan @easduncan @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Not mental health specific, (and excuse the self 'citing') but this paper reviews the facilitators and barriers to routine outcome measures in AHP practice - may be of interest https://t.co/Cn7eydD9KW #OTalk |
| #hellomynameis Sharon @mcmorrow_sharon @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I’m finding this to be one of the main challenges at present. #OTalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @VikkiBarryOT: The most common ones I used were MoHOST and OSA in practice #OTalk https://t.co/HZ4egELh4w |
| Suzanne Rastrick @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT Hi Emma & #OTalk. Don’t think anyone has mentioned for benchmarking services? |
| Kate Tudor @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT @Ruth_Hawley Yes, I pretty much only use OT specific things when I have students. Which is a good reason to have lots of students! #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Agree with this - our good old ‘OT tool kit’ #OTalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT RT @easduncan: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Not mental health specific, (and excuse the self 'citing') but this paper reviews the facilitators and barri… |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @CathyAHP123 @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Is it possible to review the need for OTs to complete these generic measures if they do not provide relevant information for OT service and clients? #OTALK |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @Ruth_Hawley @Katie_Next @Emm_OT @OTalk_ keep forgetting to add the hashtag #OTalk ! It's been a long day... |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Really important to have our acute and community OTs working together on measuring - and having a measure thst can capture a person's whole journey through services #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT It certainly is! #Otalk |
| catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008 I find OSA good for the individual AMPS preferred by colleagues and as evidence for a services #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk Q3. No longer in clinical practice but when I was, OT service was using TOMS, trust emphasised HONOS and service also used recovery star though not consistently enough to be truly as OM |
 | Vicki @V_the_OT @MaryBirken #OTalk one designed by the service I am on placement with....but based upon a OSA |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @hannahSchl @OTalk_ OSAs all the way 😂#OTalk |
| Rupert Leslie @hoffiOT @sarahwilsonOT He did but they were new ones to me. Got the written list in work. One of the interesting aspects was around how we may all be trying to capture the same information but we often use vastly different tools across different services and sectors. #OTalk |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @VikkiBarryOT I just used the COSA for the first time today on placement - I don't know if I'll be seeing the client for long enough to re-administer it as an outcome measure but I found it a great starting point #OTalk |
 | Gilly- does- Doing @GillyGorry Quick personal response before diving back on the #otalk account. Recently filled in 20 plus pages of self assessments for a clinic expecting it as a starting point for assessment. Nobody had even read it and it wasn't looked at during assessment. Seemed pretty pointless measure |
| carol duff @carolfish32 @VikkiBarryOT And one size doesn’t fit all #OTalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @carolfish32 @OTalk_ @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT Perhaps COPM might be another example but I like how GAS allows the client to identify specific outcomes and rather than pass/fail the goal they can set out degrees of attainment. #OTALK |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Time pressures, in inpatients length of stay maybe not finishing work before discharge. Resources, outcome measure tool be on electronic case note Systems, to be both seen and valued by others. Training, exceptions of role, caseload, none OT duty’s. Confidence of OT #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @OT_rach: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Time pressures, in inpatients length of stay maybe not finishing work before discharge. Resources, outcome m… |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @colourful_ot: @VikkiBarryOT I just used the COSA for the first time today on placement - I don't know if I'll be seeing the client for… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT @GillyGorry Great point #OTalk |
| Katie @Katie_Next RT @OT_rach: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Time pressures, in inpatients length of stay maybe not finishing work before discharge. Resources, outcome m… |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @GemmaVictoria15 @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk yes, there is only so much questioning you can give a client and aometimes service requirement has to take priority |
| Hannah @hannahSchl @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @MOHOspark Forgot to hashtag again 😅 #otalk |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @SuzanneRastrick: @Emm_OT Hi Emma & #OTalk. Don’t think anyone has mentioned for benchmarking services? |
| Alison Clements @a_clemo @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing, carer view, social functioning. Quick to use. Wouldnt replace OT assessment though #OTalk #outcomemeasures |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley Yes! I found this too as an educator in practice and now as a placement tutor within HEI I definitely agree this is a good reason to have #OTstudents on placement #OTalk |
| ElspethOT @Els_OT RT @easduncan: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Not mental health specific, (and excuse the self 'citing') but this paper reviews the facilitators and barri… |
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| Rachel Booth @OT_rach @probyn_jo @Els_OT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I need to see this outcome measure, where can I find it? #otalk was unsure of outcome measure for VDTmoca |
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| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk GAS may be flawed (see William Levack OT's YouTube vid - The problem with Goal Attainment Scaling) but it's better to use it than not. The problem OTs often have is writing measurable occupational goals. See my YouTube vid - Constructing Measurable goals using MOHO 😉 |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q3 - when I worked in mental health my top 3 favourites were MOHOST, OSA & OCAIRS @OTalk_ #otalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing… |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @mcmorrow_sharon @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ If they are self-report can they be administered over the phone as part of follow up? I'd never want someone to stay on longer on an acute ward to have an assessment unless it was essential for discharge planning. #OTalk |
| carol duff @carolfish32 #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so powerful but not given enough credit |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken Struggling to keep up with the chatter #OTalk which is great am still learning how to #OTalk.. relishing my work in voluntary world out in the wilds.. Where show by what you do is powerful real back to roots of occupational therapy on Jennifer Creek @jcreektv margins |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @colourful_ot: @VikkiBarryOT I just used the COSA for the first time today on placement - I don't know if I'll be seeing the client for… |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken Very true #OTalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ We had some training last week on TOMs.. Much of the language is very MOHOST based #OTalk |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I love a good MOHOST. #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @VikkiBarryOT: The most common ones I used were MoHOST and OSA in practice #OTalk https://t.co/HZ4egELh4w |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT https://t.co/j9aryMz4PT #OTalk |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach Proms - OSA Croms - MOHOST, LAcls (acls) Trust and also recently introduced Gas light gaols. #otalk |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @MaryBirken COSA with children and young people - always opens up conversation not captured in other CAMHS tools #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I never came across GAS whilst in practice but now wonder whether it would be good way of capturing an outcome and making it client centred and meaningful #OTalk. |
| Jo Probyn @probyn_jo @OT_rach @Els_OT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTALK Have a look at https://t.co/CciyX6XOdN. They’re on twitter too. |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Me too! #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @Emm_OT 10 mins or so left of #Otalk do we have a few more Qs? |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT Thank you @MOHOspark - we love MOHOST! @otalk #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT @Ruth_Hawley #OTalk Brilliant! And students can complete structured assessments that you don't have time to complete!! |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead We’ve already lost power once today with #StormGareth so hoping power is not going to go off again before the end of #OTalk ! |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @CMcnall44919008: I find OSA good for the individual AMPS preferred by colleagues and as evidence for a services #OTalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken Good point Sue- it is really important to look at the reliability and validity of measures...can they detect meaningful change? Takes time to appraise but it needs to be done #otalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Agreed, a mixture of quantitative and qualitative outcomes alongside case studies and personalised stories are most impactful #OTalk |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @colourful_ot @MOHOspark @VikkiBarryOT COSA great way to capture a child or young person's views which can get missed in other CAMHS conversations #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken @jcreektv Though outcome measures in our world evidence of involvement people taking active role in local and not so local community stuff #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT We certainly do #Otalk |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ #Otalk |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach RT @MOHOspark: @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk GAS may be flawed (see William Levack OT's YouTube vid - The pr… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Q4 #otalk |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Great advice - will be looking at these. #otalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @MOHOspark @OT_KateT @VikkiBarryOT And it’s a great learning opportunity for them too. Did a fair bit of this as an educator. Win win all round #OTalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q3 my service has just started using ReQoL I find it useful to get a picture of client s perception on current situation even if I haven't been there myself, give me avenues of future discussion with client #OTalk |
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| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @vicki_OT2019 @MaryBirken #OTalk Remember that adapted assessments may not have reliability and validity. Valid ratings are an incredibly useful shorthand. Also, a short form has just been made available for the OSA with just 12 items 😀 |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @OT_rach @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk ah yes practical barriers like not being able to scan docs into the care notes system on a previous electronic notes was a barrier! We worked round it by making lots of word templates of common assessments, but it definitely made a longer job of things. |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @Emm_OT: @hannahSchl @OTalk_ OSAs all the way 😂#OTalk |
| Katie @Katie_Next @Emm_OT @OTalk_ We use GAS and MOHOST #OTalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @a_clemo @OTalk_ TOMS seems good from the quickness perspective. I had training last week and it could be good to use alongside more occupationally focused measures #OTalk |
| Jo Probyn @probyn_jo RT @sarahwilsonOT: Agreed, a mixture of quantitative and qualitative outcomes alongside case studies and personalised stories are most impa… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT #OTalk yes there has been a thread of this throughout most responses but ensuring that the OM is used in the way it should be - it has to have something in it for the client - people are overly assessed at times and it needs to be meaningful in order to promote change |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @CathyAHP123 @MaryBirken I liked how occupation-focused it is; when I used it today it was just after I had explained to the client that OT is all about the things you do, so "here's some questions about the things you do" took much less explaining than other assessments would have! #OTalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Definite win win #Otalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also liked and used (though not necessarily as OM’S) many of the MOHO assessments for how they supported OT focus and were useful in guiding interventions. #OTalk |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ Keeping the person's view at the centre and agreeing with them about what is important to measure and how we measure it #OTalk |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach Make sure you do them with (not to) the client, and feed back on results process, other wise it’s just another tick box, with no meaning. #OTalk (always ask why am I doing this what and who should be benefiting?) |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT Ensuring we explain the purpose of the OM in the first place always helps! It’s a good way to check you are tuned into your service users priorities too! #otalk @otalk |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead @MOHOspark @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Absolutely. GAS is only as good as the goals which are set. I find I’m continuously learning to use GAS better. It’s most helpful to have a colleague or supervisor to review the goals and provide feedback as there are many ways to set poor GAS goals! Will def check it out! #otalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT We love a good OSA too @MOHOspark #Otalk |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken RT @OT_rach: Make sure you do them with (not to) the client, and feed back on results process, other wise it’s just another tick box, wi… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @MaryBirken: Good point Sue- it is really important to look at the reliability and validity of measures...can they detect meaningful cha… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @MandyGrahamOT: Thank you @MOHOspark - we love MOHOST! @otalk #otalk https://t.co/6KoAgknFLj |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @MandyGrahamOT: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q3 - when I worked in mental health my top 3 favourites were MOHOST, OSA & OCAIRS @OTalk_ #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @CathyAHP123: @colourful_ot @MOHOspark @VikkiBarryOT COSA great way to capture a child or young person's views which can get missed in o… |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT Couldn’t agree more #OTalk |
| Hannah @hannahSchl RT @sarahwilsonOT: We need to be prepared to respond to data that demonstrates that what we are doing has not been effective and look to ch… |
| Rupert Leslie @hoffiOT RT @OT_rach: Make sure you do them with (not to) the client, and feed back on results process, other wise it’s just another tick box, wi… |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT Time has flown! For our final question, Q5.. How can we demonstrate that occupational therapy outcomes contribute to service objectives? #OTalk |
| Edward Duncan @easduncan @OT_rach @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also worth looking at other theory and evidence-based person centred goal setting approaches for AHPs (2 developed by occupational therapists) #OTalk https://t.co/zdy017VQpR https://t.co/LSyONXClJp https://t.co/tsrOrwmRVn |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @cathymc9781 @MaryBirken @jcreektv Top tip. Don’t worry about keeping up, it can get very busy. Just focus on what you can, you can go back and look again later if need be #Otalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT RT @MandyGrahamOT: @Emm_OT Ensuring we explain the purpose of the OM in the first place always helps! It’s a good way to check you are tune… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ We use GAS and MOHOST #OTalk |
| OTalk @OTalk_ RT @MandyGrahamOT: @OTalk_ #Otalk https://t.co/wfMBKIVr6X |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach @sleepOTsophie @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Our trust has, MOHOST and OSA on its electronic system, Gas light has now been added, but needed strong leadership to get this done, as a small workforce in the size of trust. Staff were not using the tools due to barriers of recoding it. #otalk |
| Alison Clements @a_clemo @MOHOspark @vicki_OT2019 @MaryBirken Great news. I will be taking a look at that then! #OTalk #outcomemeasures |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT RT @easduncan: @OT_rach @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also worth looking at other theory and evidence-ba… |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT Yes, for analysing and planning services/pathways. Auditing can generate the underpinning evidence base for service improvement and our unique contribution eg for commissioning #valueofOT #OTalk @OTalk_ |
| OTalk @OTalk_ Q5 #otalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @carolfish32 #OTalk that is the key the need to elevate the voice of the person... and also be seen to be saving resources... reducing costs in some way increasing value from recoveryness!! |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT #OTalk. Q4. I think this can be very challenging but is essential. OM’s can easily become service or target driven agendas but this is at risk to losing client centred and meaningful focus. |
| Sophie Faulkner @sleepOTsophie @Emm_OT Q4 It's great when some of the questions within the outcome measure also lend themselves to further discussion and opening an initial interview #OTalk. Then it's clear to the client what the relevance of what you are asking and that you are going to work together on this. |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @Ruth_Hawley: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also liked and used (though not necessarily as OM’S) many of the MOHO assessments for how they supported O… |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @colourful_ot @MaryBirken I've always found it works really well - visually easy to do and generates lots of discussion. The goals that come out if it are often never thought of previously but most important to the child #OTalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy @Emm_OT #OTalk with focus on what you'll do with the information, how will it guide you, if it won't guide intervention - question why do it? |
| #hellomynameis Sharon @mcmorrow_sharon @sleepOTsophie @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ That’s a great suggestion. I worry that once a person is discharged they may not want to answer the phone to a call from the acute unit but I’ll have to call to find out! #OTalk |
| Hannah @hannahSchl RT @easduncan: @OT_rach @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also worth looking at other theory and evidence-ba… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @easduncan: @OT_rach @MOHOspark @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also worth looking at other theory and evidence-ba… |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken Q5 very important: how can we demonstrate that occupational therapy intervention outcomes contribute to service objectives?? #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @OT_rach: @sleepOTsophie @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Our trust has, MOHOST and OSA on its electronic system, Gas light has now been added, but nee… |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @Emm_OT Probably stating the obvious but I think taking time to talk to the client afterwards about what the outcomes mean would be important, in case they might be disappointed or surprised by them #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @OTalk_ @MaryBirken @jcreektv Cheers #OTalk the random chatter is awesome |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #Otalk |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT Also taking the time to explain in service user friendly language what the quantitative results of an OM actually mean for that individual and their context - numbers can be useful but they must be meaningful to the person at the centre! #OTalk @OTalk |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT RT @OT_rach: Make sure you do them with (not to) the client, and feed back on results process, other wise it’s just another tick box, wi… |
| OTalk @OTalk_ @hannahSchl @Emm_OT @MOHOspark It’s ok. I’m on #tag watch #Otalk 😂 |
| OTalk @OTalk_ 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| #Hellomynameis Yvette @YvetteHaynesOT @mcmorrow_sharon @sleepOTsophie @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I think it would depend on the client and the outcome being measured. I would prefer to speak to the client in person so I can pick up on their non verbal ques and respond to them. However as you say, it may be more beneficial to use a phone to prevent delayed discharged. #Otalk |
| Vikki Barry @VikkiBarryOT RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Catherine Wright @CathyAHP123 @Emm_OT Ensuring we are consistent in using them and keeping the data #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT Q5. #OTalk discuss with managers and share information at every opportunity to highlight how OT outcomes align with service objectives. Link OT outcomes to service objectives with individuals personal narratives and if possible with literature evidence base. |
| Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot @Emm_OT Using more occupation-focused measures to highlight how OT is providing something valuable to the service that's different from other professions #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @Emm_OT #OTalk - however the service objectives are worded, services generally want to be more effective. By measuring effectiveness we can support our organisations - but only if we use the data - so much data is inputted and never retrieved 😭 |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT RT @MOHOspark: @Emm_OT #OTalk - however the service objectives are worded, services generally want to be more effective. By measuring effec… |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @Emm_OT Ultimately our O/M’s should directly link to our service objectives as these should be all about our service users in the first place @otalk #otalk |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @Emm_OT @Emm_OT Q5: Use of standardised, valid & reliable outcome measures will demonstrate #valueofOT adding to the evidence base of our practice and report on our contribution to service delivery and policy development and wider public health agendas #OTalk @OTalk_ |
| OTalk @OTalk_ As we are coming to an end of tonight’s #Otalk I will say thanks to our hosting team @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT tweets wont be collected for 24 hours and we’ll have them on the blog when we can. If anyone else would like to host please see pinned tweet. |
| OTalk @OTalk_ #Otalk |
| Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT @Emm_OT Ensure we use outcome measures which are easily accessible and that can be utilised by service users in order for themselves to acknowledge differences in line with their goals #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley @MOHOspark @Emm_OT #OTalk. I agree a plan for using the data is essential. Without using it, it is meaningless and worthless. |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Agreed! And we can be viewed as an ‘expensive’ luxury that is maybe dispensible if we cannot demonstrate our contribution to overall service effectiveness and efficiency - there is no point knowing we do the fabulous work we do if we don’t use that data to show it😀 #OTalk |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @MOHOspark @Emm_OT Agree Sue - lots of data on electronic notes these days but it’s not analysed. Make friends with data analysts in the NHS - that’s my tip of the day! @otalk #otalk |
| Lucy Howell @howell_lucy RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @Incredhead @Emm_OT Definitely! We need to share our findings and promote our good practice @OTalk_ #OTalk |
| Mandy Graham @MandyGrahamOT @OTalk_ @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie Thank you @Emm_OT and the @MOT1ON_Research team for an interesting @otalk #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @Incredhead: @MOHOspark @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Also complete @MOHOspark case formulation/goal setting training to help with this task! #OTalk |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley Thanks to hosts. Busy but useful #OTalk tonight. |
 | syiqs @HassanQin RT @CMcnall44919008: Demonstrating to service users that they are improving is important too, especially when they feel hopeless and worthl… |
 | Dr Niina Kolehmainen 🇪🇺 @niinamk ”I’m not!” Using outcomes does not make us client centred, in fact it can easily do the opposite. I also don’t think it’s even a necessary condition - totally possible to be client centred even without outcomes. Eg sometimes a person just wants to be listened to. #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @cathymc9781: @MOHOspark @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk I always liked the term personal causation... brilliant con… |
| Rupert Leslie @hoffiOT RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT @Emm_OT OSA used alongside other psychology outcomes as part of crisis and non crisis audits for specialised personality disorder/complex trauma service. It's important to acknowledge specific OT interventions (ie sensory integration) and collect data around it. #reportandpresent #OTalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @MandyGrahamOT: @MOHOspark @Emm_OT Agree Sue - lots of data on electronic notes these days but it’s not analysed. Make friends with data… |
| Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT RT @JessikaLack_OT: @Emm_OT OSA used alongside other psychology outcomes as part of crisis and non crisis audits for specialised personalit… |
| Jessika Lack @JessikaLack_OT RT @Ruth_Hawley: @Emm_OT Q5. #OTalk discuss with managers and share information at every opportunity to highlight how OT outcomes align wit… |
| Dr Niina Kolehmainen 🇪🇺 @niinamk Measured for what end? I think for way too long we’ve bn way too trigger happy to just measure. But what’s the question we are asking that requires us to measure? #OTalk |
 | Naomi Gallant @naomi_gallant RT @Lizzie_OT: @Incredhead @Emm_OT Definitely! We need to share our findings and promote our good practice @OTalk_ #OTalk |
| Sarah Wilson @sarahwilsonOT Don’t forget to use this resource to share the impact of what we do - saw a fabulous example of this completed today by @MadelineWarwick something we can all do more often #OTalk https://t.co/mOXIDCNV2f |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT Thanks all 😊#otalk |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT @OTalk_ @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT Thank you all. It’s been a busy hour & enlightening #OTalk |
| Dr Niina Kolehmainen 🇪🇺 @niinamk ...If I had a power to have one measure never bn invented it would be GAS... (sorry...) It’s a terrible measure set on bad ideas about goals, and it’s become so popular that it’s skewing our ability to actually progress good quality goal setting and outcome measurement ☹️. #OTalk |
| #hellomynameis Sharon @mcmorrow_sharon @sleepOTsophie @YvetteHaynesOT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Very practical advice, thank you :) #OTalk |
 | Kirstie @Kirstie_OT RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach Hope you see you next week had this topic on my mind for a while, looking forward to hearing everyone input. #otalk |
| Edward Duncan @easduncan RT @niinamk: ...If I had a power to have one measure never bn invented it would be GAS... (sorry...) It’s a terrible measure set on bad ide… |
| Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT Thank you Emma for hosting such a great #otalk so many discussion threads generated! Always a sign of a successful #otalk |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk How can we change? My suggestion: Get involved with @theRCOT 's project about research priorities and lobby for wide-scale research using outcome data to find answers to the big questions: Is OT effective? In what way? Where do we have to most impact? ... and the least? |
| #Hellomynameis Yvette @YvetteHaynesOT @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the whole O.T team knows what the service objectives are. It may also give O.Ts the opportunity to discuss/ reflect on how the O.T service contributes or can contribute to them #otalk |
 | RCOT West Midlands @RCOTWestMids Looking for a unique #CPD opportunity or have a topic you would like to discuss? Why not host an #OTalk? |
| Ruth Hawley @Ruth_Hawley I agree! #OTalk |
| Catherine McNulty @cathymc9781 @Katie_Next @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk shout loudly about occupation the doing stuff of life... Its brilliant and powerful... |
| Emma Hall @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT Thanks @MaryBirken . My head was spinning at several points but we made it through thanks to yours and @MandyGrahamOT @sleepOTsophie @MOT1ON_Research thought provoking questions 😁#OTalk |
 | Madeline Warwick OT @MadelineWarwick @Emm_OT #OTalk Sorry I’m late but Q1: 1) For the person to feel at the heart of planning their own health outcome 2) For the OT to stay focussed on the interventions agreed with the person 3) For service managers to see and be able to audit the health outcomes from our intervention |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @cathymc9781: @Katie_Next @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk shout loudly about occupation the doing stuff of life... I… |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @RCOTWestMids: Looking for a unique #CPD opportunity or have a topic you would like to discuss? Why not host an #OTalk? https://t.co/NfI… |
 | Graham Walker @OT_Graham RT @YvetteHaynesOT: @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the… |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @OTalk_: As we are coming to an end of tonight’s #Otalk I will say thanks to our hosting team @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyG… |
| #Hellomynameis Yvette @YvetteHaynesOT Thanks @Emm_OT for hosting a thought provoking and inspiring #otalk ! I have enjoyed being involved 🙂 |
| Graham Walker @OT_Graham @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper Haha Suzanne Rastrick keeping her eye out for #OTalk amazing! |
 | Theresa Baxter @Ottabax RT @OT_Graham: @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper Haha Suzanne Rastrick keeping her eye out for #OTalk amazing! |
| Madeline Warwick OT @MadelineWarwick @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk Q2: My biggest problem in CMHT work has always been that completing the generic work such as CPA reviews and care plans gets in the way of reviewing the specific OT outcomes. Trying to use an OT outcome measure alongside other paperwork with time pressure is tough |
| Rupert Leslie @hoffiOT RT @OTalk_: Have you been thinking about hosting an #OTalk, we have available dates from 19th March 2019. Dates are likely to go quickly so… |
| Suzanne Rastrick @SuzanneRastrick @OT_Graham @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper ☺️The uniprofessional tweet chats are always good value. @sarahlcooper has been considering outcome measures & felt the #OTalk timeline tonight was excellent coverage of issues in MH. |
 | Bethan Mair Edwards 🏴🇬🇧🇪🇺 🏳️🌈 @pixiegirle @easduncan @niinamk @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance There appears to have been a concerted effort to drive the OT research agenda forwards recently - more I’ve seen in many years. Wish we’d had this drive a long time ago #OTalk |
| Bethan Mair Edwards 🏴🇬🇧🇪🇺 🏳️🌈 @pixiegirle RT @MOHOspark: @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk How can we change? My suggestion:… |
| Madeline Warwick OT @MadelineWarwick @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk Q3: MoHOST for observing function for recommending care packages but rarely get to review outcome due to discharge OSA for short term OT work - often review at end OCAIRS for longer term complex work but sometimes struggle to review due to CPA pressures |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT RT @carolfish32: #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so pow… |
| Bethan Mair Edwards 🏴🇬🇧🇪🇺 🏳️🌈 @pixiegirle @MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT I agree large-scale studies looking at routinely collected #OT outcome measures would be wonderful. But is this data captured on such databases? In wales we have the SAIL database, not sure of equivalent in the UK, but SAIL doesn’t capture this data #OTalk |
 | Laura grove @grove1978_laura RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Chloe Kitto @chloe_kitto RT @MOHOspark: @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk How can we change? My suggestion:… |
| Madeline Warwick OT @MadelineWarwick @Emm_OT #OTalk Q4 If you use a tool which enables the person to express their own difficulties and set their own recovery goals, then the intervention will be meaningful and therefore so will be the process of reviewing progress and measuring the outcomes at timely periods. |
 | Zoe Merchant OT @ZoeMerchantOT RT @MOHOspark: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT #OTalk Good question. I think we should we should measure a broad range of fact… |
| Bethany Orr @OT_Bethany RT @OT_Bethany: @Emm_OT It’s fantastic to show service-users their progression by involving them in outcome measure results #IncreasedSelfE… |
 | Karen McMullan @kazzymcmack RT @VikkiBarryOT: Hope is actually a huge factor in terms of volition, choice and confidence and can determine potential achievement #Otalk… |
| Madeline Warwick OT @MadelineWarwick @Emm_OT #OTalk Q5 In CMHT it’s difficult, the persons occupational goals we measure often don’t directly match service goals. So we have to be creative and use parts of our data as necessary and be mindful of what our service is being measured by and try to link the 2 together |
 | FEBI PHOEBE SAYI @fibbstweet RT @YvetteHaynesOT: @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the… |
 | Steve Tolan @tolanAHP RT @SuzanneRastrick: @OT_Graham @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper ☺️The uniprofessional tweet chats are always good value. @sarahlcooper has been consi… |
 | OT Huddersfield Uni @Hudds_Uni_OT RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @pixiegirle @niinamk @easduncan @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance @samarmitage I've yet to see evidence that outcome measurement in the way we talk/think about it in #OT helps anybody. And I've seen few examples of successful implementation. Interested though in new thinking on complexity-informed commissioning from @tobyjlowe et al. #OTalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @niinamk @pixiegirle @easduncan @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance @samarmitage Yes let's be relevant, specific, and fundable. Risk is ending with something generic, unresearchable, and professionally self-serving (ie unfundable). Great opportunity here for the #PSP to take us closer to where we need to be (which may not be where we wanna go!) #OTalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff RT @niinamk: ...If I had a power to have one measure never bn invented it would be GAS... (sorry...) It’s a terrible measure set on bad ide… |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @niinamk "I'm not either." We don't measure outcomes. We don't know how to. It's probably not feasible to do it systematically. It's not essential for good practice. And it's laced with perverse incentives. Let's change the conversation. #Otalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @niinamk Correction: trigger happy to *talk* about just measuring 😉 But we almost never actually do it. And for good reason! Nobody's bothered, it's probably not feasible, it's probably not worth it, unintended consequences etc... #OTalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff I honestly think that, in most cases, there are many better things to do with our time than measure nonsense service-level outcomes in #OT. E.g. population outcomes, maybe system outcomes etc. #Otalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @pixiegirle @niinamk @easduncan @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance @samarmitage I'm also running RAISE: setting research priorities for allied health in schools. @MelanieBurrough involved. We'll be trying to link in. #Otalk |
 | Toby Lowe @tobyjlowe RT @JenniferMcAnuff: @pixiegirle @niinamk @easduncan @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @Li… |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff @pixiegirle @niinamk (Health warning: pedantic clinical academic incoming!) Not different as such. If different, that's a problem of irrelevant research! The problem is that 'outcome measurement' dominates our thinking on this. Need to change the conversation. Giz a ring about it, let's chat #Otalk |
| Jennifer McAnuff #NowForNI @JenniferMcAnuff #OTalk if you read one thing from tonight's chat 😱👇 cheers @tobyjlowe and colleagues https://t.co/lLldbIpUx3 |
 | Lorraine Mischuk @lmischukOT RT @MaryBirken: Occupational therapists working in mental health: this weeks otalk is a must! #OTalk - Mental Health Occupational Therapy… |
 | Naomi Bowes @NaomiBowesOT RT @OTalk_: Completely agree. Clients should also know how we measure outcomes and why we do it. #otalk https://t.co/opjAW6sRW4 |
 | Occupational Thinks @Occup_Thinks RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Hannah Spencer @hspenceruk RT @MOHOspark: @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk GAS may be flawed (see William Levack OT's YouTube vid - The pr… |
| Claire Murphy @Incredhead RT @MOHOspark: @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk GAS may be flawed (see William Levack OT's YouTube vid - The pr… |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @carolfish32: #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so pow… |
| Elizabeth @Lizzie_OT All about measurement of occupational engagement in mental health; useful follow on to last night’s #OTalk @OTalk_ @Emm_OT |
| Amelia Handy @AmeliaHandyOT RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Sue Parkinson @MOHOspark RT @niinamk: ”I’m not!” Using outcomes does not make us client centred, in fact it can easily do the opposite. I also don’t think it’s e… |
 | BethOT @BethYorkshireOT RT @carolfish32: #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so pow… |
 | Rebecca Crouch, Occupational Therapist @RebeccaCrouch RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Maxine Slapper @MaxineS62625973 RT @Incredhead: @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk absolutely. It’s so important to find out what is really important for the… |
| Hannah Spencer @hspenceruk RT @Lizzie_OT: All about measurement of occupational engagement in mental health; useful follow on to last night’s #OTalk @OTalk_ @Emm_OT h… |
| Graham Walker @OT_Graham RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Ravita OT @RavitaOt RT @carolfish32: #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so pow… |
 | Becky French @becky_1983 RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach Looks like a really busy and thought provoking #OTalk on outcome measures last night. Looking forward to doing the transcript tonight, and updating the blog with all the post chat stats. |
 | Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Self rating is a really empowering tool #OTalk |
| Rachel Booth @OT_rach @niinamk @ashleytw1tterOT this is and interesting thread to read, as you start your research. #OTalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @OTalk_: Who’s online for tonight’s #otalk? It’s @GillyGorry on the account for support tonight if you need anything. |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 Well service objectives should have the best interests of the service users. Our outcomes demonstrate what is difference for service users in something they have chosen. #otalk |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 RT @sarahwilsonOT: Absolutely-outcomes are not just about the absence of disease or improvement as sometimes these cannot be changed, but o… |
| Margaret Spencer @margaretOT360 We HAVE to demonstrate what difference we have made working with people or why are we there? #OTalk |
 | PSL @PSLrecruitment The latest #Physiotherapy Today! https://t.co/rrrVKxYcjl Thanks to @therapy2optimum @Dariabee87 @AMRIHospitals #physiotherapy #otalk |
 | Uniscan @Uniscan1 The latest Uniscan Daily! https://t.co/SFvGVRP1sr Thanks to @beingyourdoing @wwwthiiscouk @hoffiOT #otalk #icymi |
 | Maria Skouroliakos @Mariaergo The latest The Ergo+Paidi Daily! https://t.co/5RwXcNOQL8 Thanks to @monkeyethics @theOThub @NautilusMag #neurosciences #otalk |
 | Tessa Dias @DeltaTessa RT @RCOTNYRegion: Several of our committee members @VikkiBarryOT @MandyGrahamOT @a_clemo are joining in #OTalk tonight - why don’t you joi… |
 | Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @margaretOT360: We HAVE to demonstrate what difference we have made working with people or why are we there? #OTalk https://t.co/tBPPNff… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MadelineWarwick: @Emm_OT #OTalk Q4 If you use a tool which enables the person to express their own difficulties and set their own recov… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @pixiegirle: @MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT I agree large-scale… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MadelineWarwick: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk Q3: MoHOST for observing function for recommending care packages but rarely get to review outco… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @pixiegirle @easduncan @niinamk @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance There is definitely a push in the USA too. But, it just seems like we are procrastinating to make up for lost time. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MadelineWarwick: @Emm_OT #OTalk Sorry I’m late but Q1: 1) For the person to feel at the heart of planning their own health outcome 2) F… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @YvetteHaynesOT: @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MOHOspark: @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk How can we change? My suggestion:… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT AOTA has evidence exchange as well. I think it is the same as any needle moving projects, we can't expect to sit there and things will be done by magic. If we have any capacity to help, we should. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT Moral support is great. However, there are times where those involve want more than that. Otherwise, it will be discourage for people to try similar efforts. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @niinamk: ”I’m not!” Using outcomes does not make us client centred, in fact it can easily do the opposite. I also don’t think it’s e… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT @sarahwilsonOT and we also need different avenues to showcase it too. Seeing OT appearing quite a few times on TV in UK is encouraging. I do think we also have to adjust to the climate we are in in terms of how to support potential avenues that can showcase our values. #otalk |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @JessikaLack_OT: @Emm_OT Ensure we use outcome measures which are easily accessible and that can be utilised by service users in order f… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Lizzie_OT: @Emm_OT @Emm_OT Q5: Use of standardised, valid & reliable outcome measures will demonstrate #valueofOT adding to the evidenc… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MandyGrahamOT: @Emm_OT Also taking the time to explain in service user friendly language what the quantitative results of an OM actuall… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @cathymc9781: @carolfish32 #OTalk that is the key the need to elevate the voice of the person... and also be seen to be saving resources… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Lizzie_OT: @SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT Yes, for analysing and planning services/pathways. Auditing can generate the underpinning evidence… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @OT_rach: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Time pressures, in inpatients length of stay maybe not finishing work before discharge. Resources, outcome m… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @CathyAHP123: @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ It's also about balancing our OT outcome measures with the many generic measures that need com… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @sleepOTsophie: @Katie_Next @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Yes its hard to find something that is relevant to individual's goals but also… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organis… |
| Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT RT @MOHOspark: @OTalk_ #OTalk Sadly OTs are very pressured by multiple demands. My view is that negotiating goals helps OT be more targete… |
 | Leanne Davies @LeanneDavies_OT RT @Lizzie_OT: @Emm_OT @Emm_OT Q5: Use of standardised, valid & reliable outcome measures will demonstrate #valueofOT adding to the evidenc… |
 | Cristina Rodríguez @cristinarodto RT @Emm_OT: Hi everyone, thanks for joining #OTalk tonight! Here's to a thought provoking discussion about outcome measures! So leading us… |
| Kerri Schubert @kerri_schOT @OTalk_ oooh interesting topic!! #otalk |
 | Keir Harding @Keirwales RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
 | Bev Taylor-Wade @OTBevTW RT @MOHOspark: @Emm_OT #OTalk - however the service objectives are worded, services generally want to be more effective. By measuring effec… |
 | Kelly M @OTontheTracks RT @OT_rach: Hope you see you next week had this topic on my mind for a while, looking forward to hearing everyone input. #otalk https://t… |
 | Dr Kevin Cordingley @KCordingleyOT RT @carolfish32: #OTalk we need to find creative ways of using a persons narrative to influence commissioners - people’s story’s are so pow… |
 | Joan Howarth @t_howart RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc |
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