#OTalk Transcript

Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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Tonight’s #otalk is hosted by .@Emm_OT and team @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT https://t.co/2RBOfmsrsC
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
#otalk question one...its a good one..
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Please remember your code of ethics and professional conduct during the chat tonight and respect the views of others. #otalk
Alison Clements @a_clemo
@Emm_OT Evidencing that our interventions are leading to positive change for the service user and that we are effective in our interventions #OTalk #outcomemeasures
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Who’s online for tonight’s #otalk? It’s @GillyGorry on the account for support tonight if you need anything.
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT Evidencing that our interventions are leading to positive change for the service user and that we are effective in our interventions #OTalk #outcomemeasures
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Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
#otalk question one- I agree, its important to determine and record if people's goals were met.
Sam Pywell @smileyfacehalo
RT @kerri_schOT:
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Important first question ? Why is it important to have outcome measures within occupational therapy? #otalk
Katie @Katie_Next
@Emm_OT To show the value of OT. Promoting the impact as well as assessing the effectiveness of our interventions! #OTalk
ElspethOT @Els_OT
@Emm_OT I think there are different answers to this question depending on who you are measuring outcomes for. Its important to measure outcomes as it builds the evidence base for the profession, but its also important from a more client centred perspective... #OTalk
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@VikkiBarryOT @GillyGorry Hello, I am indeed, hoping you are too? #otalk
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@libby_fincham @GillyGorry Hi Libby, DM if you need any help 😊 #otalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Resource implications is important reason to demonstrate outcomes, I agree. If outcomes are positive and save money and resources- can lead to more OTs in teams! #OTalk
Yvette Haynes @YvetteHaynesOT
@Emm_OT They may also provide evidence that informs future service provision #OTalk
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@OTizzie @GillyGorry Lurking is a productive pass time in the world of #otalk feel free to join in as well, DM if you need anything
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RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT To show the value of OT. Promoting the impact as well as assessing the effectiveness of our interventions! #OTalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
@VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to measure/ who the recipient of the information is? #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @sarahwilsonOT: @VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to measure/ who the recipient of the information is? #OTalk
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Completely agree. Clients should also know how we measure outcomes and why we do it. #otalk
catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008
Demonstrating to service users that they are improving is important too, especially when they feel hopeless and worthless #OTalk
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RT @CMcnall44919008: Demonstrating to service users that they are improving is important too, especially when they feel hopeless and worthless #OTalk
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RT @sarahwilsonOT: @VikkiBarryOT And maybe therefore we would use different outcome measurement tools depending on what it is we want to measure/ who the recipient of the information is? #OTalk
Katie @Katie_Next
@VikkiBarryOT Very true! Always important to have the service users fully involved in their outcome measurement. #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
@howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT So should we be measuring hope as an outcome? #otalk
Alison Clements @a_clemo
@OTalk_ I have found it really enhances SU engagement when we can show that progress is being made! #OTalk #outcomemeasures
catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008
Yep different OMs can be important for different reasons. What outcomes matter to patients might differ to those that matter to commissioners?#OTalk
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Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
So... did the planned intervention do what it was intended to and to what extent, be that from a service user, financial, service delivery, perspective #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
@cathymc9781 Oh dear! #otalk will be much cheerier!
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Katie @Katie_Next
@MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Ohhh, very interesting question! I'm currently doing remotivation work with a service user and I can definitely see a change in his hope, but this isn't evidenced anywhere! #OTalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Absolutely-outcomes are not just about the absence of disease or improvement as sometimes these cannot be changed, but one’s feeling of hope or quality of life can still be an important outcome 👍#OTalk
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RT @sarahwilsonOT: Absolutely-outcomes are not just about the absence of disease or improvement as sometimes these cannot be changed, but one’s feeling of hope or quality of life can still be an important outcome 👍#OTalk
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RT @Katie_Next: @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Ohhh, very interesting question! I'm currently doing remotivation work with a service user and I can definitely see a change in his hope, but this isn't evidenced anywhere! #OTalk
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RT @sarahwilsonOT: So... did the planned intervention do what it was intended to and to what extent, be that from a service user, financial, service delivery, perspective #OTalk
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RT @VikkiBarryOT:
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Can this one be a challenge in practice if under organisational pressures? #otalk
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RT @easduncan:
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Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
We need to be prepared to respond to data that demonstrates that what we are doing has not been effective and look to change our service provision accordingly #OTalk
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RT @cathymc9781:
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RT @howell_lucy:
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RT @sarahwilsonOT: We need to be prepared to respond to data that demonstrates that what we are doing has not been effective and look to change our service provision accordingly #OTalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Thanks for that Carolina - will take a look when we have finished! #OTalk
Katie @Katie_Next
@Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organisation only having one set outcome measure) and the changeable nature of mental health! I'm finding all of these true in practice! #OTalk
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Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
@Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high level and at interpersonal level, it can be difficult to prioritise what to measure. #otalk
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RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organisation only having one set outcome measure) and the changeable nature of mental health! I'm finding all of these true in practice! #OTalk
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RT @VikkiBarryOT: Q2:
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RT @MaryBirken: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high level and at interpersonal level, it can be difficult to prioritise what to measure. #otalk
Katie @Katie_Next
@cathymc9781 @MaryBirken @howell_lucy @OT_Bethany @Emm_OT Yes! Often I find though that when working within the remotivation process the outcomes are so small it can be difficult to evidence and we need to shout about our practice more at this point! #OTalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Maybe we don’t have to over complicate things...unless the OMs we use are routine and part of daily practice / data collection we often can’t sustain measurement #OTalk
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Katie @Katie_Next
@Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I agree about tangible outcomes! #OTalk
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RT @MaryBirken: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ Q2. I think there are so many outcomes of occupational therapy interventions in mental health, at high level and at interpersonal level, it can be difficult to prioritise what to measure. #otalk
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RT @hoffiOT:
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Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Did he suggest ways of capturing those?! These are definitely priorities in terms of the Personalised Care agenda and ones where we as OTs play a huge role #OTalk
catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008
Totally agree with Kate's point. Depends hugely on the reason for our contact #OTalk
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The beauty of the #ot #Otalk community is there willingness to share #communityofpractice ❤️
Jo Probyn @probyn_jo
@Emm_OT @MaryBirken @OTalk_ #OTalk #outcomemeasures - challenges in agreeing which outcome measure ( is there a strong evidence base), ease of use for patient and OT, where it’s recorded and how that data is used.
Alison Clements @a_clemo
@VikkiBarryOT There are competing demands and the mandatory documentation takes priority when OT's are working in these roles. #OTalk #outcomemeasures
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
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Gentle reminder to include the hash tag #Otalk in each tweet to ensure that they show up. Even I forget sometimes, but it will help us all follow.
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Alison Clements @a_clemo
@hoffiOT @OTalk_ @MOHOspark Good to hear #OTalk
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RT @Ruth_Hawley:
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RT @VikkiBarryOT:
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RT @easduncan:
catbellsxxx @CMcnall44919008
I find OSA good for the individual AMPS preferred by colleagues and as evidence for a services #OTalk
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Katie @Katie_Next
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RT @SuzanneRastrick:
Alison Clements @a_clemo
@Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing, carer view, social functioning. Quick to use. Wouldnt replace OT assessment though #OTalk #outcomemeasures
ElspethOT @Els_OT
RT @easduncan:
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RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing, carer view, social functioning. Quick to use. Wouldnt replace OT assessment though #OTalk #outcomemeasures
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
https://t.co/j9aryMz4PT #OTalk
Jo Probyn @probyn_jo
@OT_rach @Els_OT @Emm_OT @OTalk_ #OTALK Have a look at https://t.co/CciyX6XOdN. They’re on twitter too.
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@Emm_OT 10 mins or so left of #Otalk do we have a few more Qs?
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Good point Sue- it is really important to look at the reliability and validity of measures...can they detect meaningful change? Takes time to appraise but it needs to be done #otalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Agreed, a mixture of quantitative and qualitative outcomes alongside case studies and personalised stories are most impactful #OTalk
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Katie @Katie_Next
@Emm_OT @OTalk_ We use GAS and MOHOST #OTalk
Jo Probyn @probyn_jo
RT @sarahwilsonOT: Agreed, a mixture of quantitative and qualitative outcomes alongside case studies and personalised stories are most impactful #OTalk
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
RT @OT_rach:
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@cathymc9781 @MaryBirken @jcreektv Top tip. Don’t worry about keeping up, it can get very busy. Just focus on what you can, you can go back and look again later if need be #Otalk
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Alison Clements @a_clemo
@MOHOspark @vicki_OT2019 @MaryBirken Great news. I will be taking a look at that then! #OTalk #outcomemeasures
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
RT @easduncan:
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Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
Q5 very important: how can we demonstrate that occupational therapy intervention outcomes contribute to service objectives?? #otalk
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@hannahSchl @Emm_OT @MOHOspark It’s ok. I’m on #tag watch #Otalk 😂
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19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc
Yvette Haynes @YvetteHaynesOT
@mcmorrow_sharon @sleepOTsophie @Emm_OT @OTalk_ I think it would depend on the client and the outcome being measured. I would prefer to speak to the client in person so I can pick up on their non verbal ques and respond to them. However as you say, it may be more beneficial to use a phone to prevent delayed discharged. #Otalk
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As we are coming to an end of tonight’s #Otalk I will say thanks to our hosting team @Emm_OT @MaryBirken @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT tweets wont be collected for 24 hours and we’ll have them on the blog when we can. If anyone else would like to host please see pinned tweet.
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Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Agreed! And we can be viewed as an ‘expensive’ luxury that is maybe dispensible if we cannot demonstrate our contribution to overall service effectiveness and efficiency - there is no point knowing we do the fabulous work we do if we don’t use that data to show it😀 #OTalk
Sarah Wilson 🌺 @sarahwilsonOT
Don’t forget to use this resource to share the impact of what we do - saw a fabulous example of this completed today by @MadelineWarwick something we can all do more often #OTalk https://t.co/mOXIDCNV2f
Dr Mary Birken @MaryBirken
@Emm_OT @OTalk_ @sleepOTsophie @MandyGrahamOT Thank you Emma for hosting such a great #otalk so many discussion threads generated! Always a sign of a successful #otalk
Yvette Haynes @YvetteHaynesOT
@Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the whole O.T team knows what the service objectives are. It may also give O.Ts the opportunity to discuss/ reflect on how the O.T service contributes or can contribute to them #otalk
Graham Walker @IAPT_Graham
RT @YvetteHaynesOT: @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the whole O.T team knows what the service objectives are. It may also give O.Ts the opportunity to discuss/ reflect on how the O.T service contributes or can contribute to them #otalk
Yvette Haynes @YvetteHaynesOT
Thanks @Emm_OT for hosting a thought provoking and inspiring #otalk ! I have enjoyed being involved 🙂
Graham Walker @IAPT_Graham
@SuzanneRastrick @Emm_OT @sarahlcooper Haha Suzanne Rastrick keeping her eye out for #OTalk amazing!
Lorraine Mischuk🇨🇦🇺🇦#OTs4Ukraine Chairperson @lmischukOT
RT @MaryBirken: Occupational therapists working in mental health: Occupational therapists working in mental health: this weeks otalk is a must! #OTalk - Mental Health Occupational Therapy outcomes in clinical practice and how to measure them Tuesday 12th March 8-9pm
Occupational Thinks @Occup_Thinks
RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc
Graham Walker @IAPT_Graham
RT @OTalk_: 19th March 2019 #OTalk Gaming a meaningful occupation or a Damaging occupation? https://t.co/VWtSH7xfOc
Uniscan @Uniscan1
The latest Uniscan Daily! https://t.co/SFvGVRP1sr Thanks to @beingyourdoing @wwwthiiscouk @hoffiOT #otalk #icymi
Maria Skouroliakos @Mariaergo
The latest The Ergo+Paidi Daily! https://t.co/5RwXcNOQL8 Thanks to @monkeyethics @theOThub @NautilusMag #neurosciences #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @margaretOT360:
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@pixiegirle @easduncan @niinamk @MOHOspark @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT @LindAlliance There is definitely a push in the USA too. But, it just seems like we are procrastinating to make up for lost time. #otalk
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RT @YvetteHaynesOT: @Ruth_Hawley @Emm_OT I totally agree. Regular brief O.T meetings & handovers may also be important in ensuring that the whole O.T team knows what the service objectives are. It may also give O.Ts the opportunity to discuss/ reflect on how the O.T service contributes or can contribute to them #otalk
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Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT AOTA has evidence exchange as well. I think it is the same as any needle moving projects, we can't expect to sit there and things will be done by magic. If we have any capacity to help, we should. #otalk
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@MOHOspark @niinamk @easduncan @OT_rach @Incredhead @colourful_ot @MaryBirken @Emm_OT @OTalk_ @theRCOT Moral support is great. However, there are times where those involve want more than that. Otherwise, it will be discourage for people to try similar efforts. #otalk
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RT @niinamk:
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@sarahwilsonOT and we also need different avenues to showcase it too. Seeing OT appearing quite a few times on TV in UK is encouraging. I do think we also have to adjust to the climate we are in in terms of how to support potential avenues that can showcase our values. #otalk
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RT @JessikaLack_OT:
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RT @MandyGrahamOT:
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RT @cathymc9781:
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RT @a_clemo: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ OSA, MOHOST. I also like TOMs even though not OT specific, find it has good correlation and captures wellbeing, carer view, social functioning. Quick to use. Wouldnt replace OT assessment though #OTalk #outcomemeasures
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RT @Katie_Next: @Emm_OT @OTalk_ My undergraduate research highlighted barriers such as time, lack of training, access (due to cost, organisation only having one set outcome measure) and the changeable nature of mental health! I'm finding all of these true in practice! #OTalk
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