#OTalk Transcript

Healthcare social media transcript of the #OTalk hashtag.
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Good evening all and welcome to #OTalk, @Helen_OTUK on the account this evening, so if you have any questions, just give me a tweet. https://t.co/MYY4t4uTq0
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As always a little reminder about the #OTalk house rules.... But most of all enjoy the chat! https://t.co/0FJzUaJI36
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Welcome aboard @GeorgiaVineOT everyone welcome and all perspectives considered #OTalk
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Do say hi, even if you plan on lurking... Thanks to @preston_jenny for hosting this evening chat.... #OTalk
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thank you #OTalk delighted to be here tonight continuing with our research chats. Welcome everyone
claire kettlewell @clairelouOT
@OTalk_ @preston_jenny Hiya, I'm here just reading and interested in everyone's views on this as it's not a subject I'm familiar with. #OTalk
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy
@OTalk_ @preston_jenny Hello everyone! I'll be lurking this time but looking forward to such an interesting topic /#otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Welcome, I'm sure you will be tempted to join in #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Great to have so much interest tonight in this topic and thanks for the pre-chat engagement. So for our first question of the night #OTalk
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Q1 Do you have any experience of commercial research? #OTalk
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JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy
@preston_jenny That does seem to happen everytime I say I'm lurking. #otalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@OTalk_ @preston_jenny Evening all, research is definitely my bag but ‘commercial research’ has eluded me thus far. Will be interested to hear how can potentially overcome this as a profession #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @OTalk_ @preston_jenny Evening all, research is definitely my bag but ‘commercial research’ has eluded me thus far. Will be interested to hear how can potentially overcome this as a profession #OTalk
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Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@preston_jenny Working alongside the medics I’ve been exposed to it as it’s more common in pharmacological studies, but don’t have first hand experience #OTalk
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy
@BillWongOT #otalk will miss you! Enjoy your birthday lunch though 🎉🥳
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Now that is an interesting question but I wonder if we confusing commercial activity with commercial research here? #OTalk https://t.co/9BpwpB8Eo5
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Just a little reminder... don't forget to include #OTalk in your tweets, or they may not get seen and will not appear in the transcript. https://t.co/h38ZEwCzYd
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@OT_KateT @preston_jenny Interesting comment, do you think there’s an image problem for i.e. commercial research = unethical? #OTalk
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy
@preston_jenny No experience at all but it's something I'll keep my options open for in the future #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
It could be @emmaspellmanOT as commercial research is the term used to describe research involved in the development of new medicines and healthcare technologies which are supported by pharma and industry #OTalk
god @SegunGTP
RT @OTalk_: Good evening all and welcome to #OTalk, @Helen_OTUK on the account this evening, so if you have any questions, just give me a tweet. https://t.co/MYY4t4uTq0
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Might any of the studies have a role for occupational therapy within the research team? #OTalk
JasminOT ⓥ @JasminLaffy
@YmchwilStroc @OT_KateT @preston_jenny I remember in uni there was a sense that you had to be more critical with commercial research in case of bias. #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
I think this is very true @YmchwilStroc #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@preston_jenny Definitely! Many studies require things like cognitive assessments or assessments of function, which are definitely within our sphere of professional competency. #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Many commercial research studies include functional outcome measures such as cognitive screens, timed walking tests, 9-hole peg tests etc. Could this be an opportunity for occupational therapists to get involved instead of research nurses? #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @preston_jenny Definitely! Many studies require things like cognitive assessments or assessments of function, which are definitely within our sphere of professional competency. #OTalk
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Q2. How did you think you might get involved in commercial research? #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@JasminLaffy @OT_KateT @preston_jenny But what’s more often the case is that negative results are less likely to be published. So whilst critiquing the studies that are published is important there is often a wealth of unreported data https://t.co/Uid7LMGx8D #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @JasminLaffy @OT_KateT @preston_jenny But what’s more often the case is that negative results are less likely to be published. So whilst critiquing the studies that are published is important there is often a wealth of unreported data https://t.co/Uid7LMGx8D #OTalk
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Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
A bit late to the party, but I'm here, catching up on tonight's talk about research #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@OT_KateT @preston_jenny That’s a really good point, recent moves to increase transparency in research I feel have made some good progress here #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Absolutely, there are some great opportunities here to influence but interesting that many of us have ethical concerns about getting involved #OTalk
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Not necessarily @GeorgiaVineOT that would be sponsorship. Commercial research has very strict governance processes in place and Trusts need to be able to demonstrate that they have the relevant supports in place #OTalk https://t.co/UWJtljH719
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@JasminLaffy @preston_jenny I'm in the same boat, would be interested in commercial research but wouldn't know how to get involved #otalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@uk_james Better late than never 😉 #otalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny Sounds interesting, how involved were the commercial companies who manufacture the frames? #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
In the first instance talk to your R&D Department. They receive notifications of all commercial trials. If you have access to the population and as a research team can meet the requirements you can get involved #OTalk. No need to sign up to huge recruitment targets either.
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
Found this definition of commercial research on NHS highland website #OTalk https://t.co/1QCZQbbkz7
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@preston_jenny Thank you @preston_jenny, I'll make contact and keep an eye out for opportunities #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Is there any learning you can share @DrGillianWard. #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@DrGillianWard @preston_jenny Was this in your assistive technology research? #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
It's well worth it ... literally as it generates financial income which can be reinvested in developing research capacity #OTalk
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Q3. What are the benefits and challenges of commercial research for occupational therapists? #OTalk
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#OTalk Question 3...
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Excellent advice, thank you @DrGillianWard #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@preston_jenny I hadn't even thought of that! #otalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@preston_jenny Potential to try out novel rehab technologies for free 👍🏼 #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
We have used the income to support research modules etc #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@OTalk_ Just learnt from @preston_jenny it can generate finances to out back into developing research capacity #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Definitely a huge benefit #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Definitely a great benefit. Some of my patients recently tried a new gps watch linked with the local careline company, would have been interesting to have had an opportunity to be more involved in its development #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Q4. As always trying to cram in the last few questions. Is there any additional training required to engage in commercial research? #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I guess its more common in my sphere of practice in stroke but as @preston_jenny this also applies in neurology. I also see potential in areas such as dementia or frailty #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Another great example, thank you @DrGillianWard #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I guess its more common in my sphere of practice in stroke but as @preston_jenny this also applies in neurology. I also see potential in areas such as dementia or frailty #OTalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@Amie_OT @preston_jenny That would be an ideal application for a commercial research study #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @Amie_OT: @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny Definitely a great benefit. Some of my patients recently tried a new gps watch linked with the local careline company, would have been interesting to have had an opportunity to be more involved in its development #otalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@OTalk_ I'm new to this subject, but is it harder to overcome bias if you're effectively being paid by a company to do certain research? #otalk
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Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@YmchwilStroc @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny We use a lot of cognitive assessments, adls, mood monitoring etc within a dementia service #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
I'm guessing this is perceived as more of a challenge. Benefit is that local research teams are less involved in ethics applications as you will participate as part of a multi-site study #OTalk so the hard work is done.
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@NikkiDanielsOT @preston_jenny Did having the support and leadership of the Medicines and Healthcare Agency help to maintain objectivity and manage competing commercial interests? #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@DrGillianWard @preston_jenny I was wondering that as well as the impact of the researchers not getting the answers they wanted #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
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Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@Amie_OT @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny What’s interesting is many of these assessments themselves are derived from commercial research #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @Amie_OT @preston_jenny That would be an ideal application for a commercial research study #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny and something I could discuss with R&D #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
We found it a really helpful way to get the clinical team involved in research without it being too onerous #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@YmchwilStroc @emmaspellmanOT @preston_jenny I didn't know that, it's interesting to know #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Happy to chat beyond the session or dm me if you have specific questions #OTalk
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*** 5 mins *** to the end of the official #OTalk hour.... What are your final comments take away thoughts or CPD action points? https://t.co/5SwO5PGsw9
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@emmaspellmanOT @YmchwilStroc @preston_jenny We used to use the MMSE, but now use the mini ace, we use the PHQ-9 and geriatric depression scales, rhe Kingston behavioural scale, washing and dressing and kitchen assessments, have talked of using the MOCA familiar and unfamiliar tasks. Theres more I cant think of atm #otalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@preston_jenny As always it depends on the individual study, but a good place to start is with Good Clinical Practice, which is available online via the NIHR. They also offer other free interesting research related courses https://t.co/iaqtWzFxBy #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@OTalk_ Action point for me, to look more into potential research opportunities and not rule out commercial research #otalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@DrGillianWard @preston_jenny I would imagine that's just as helpful in itself #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
We get a great deal of support from our R&D Dept which is fantastic #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
RT @YmchwilStroc: @preston_jenny As always it depends on the individual study, but a good place to start is with Good Clinical Practice, which is available online via the NIHR. They also offer other free interesting research related courses https://t.co/iaqtWzFxBy #OTalk
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Well that the end of the official #OTalk hour... but please do keep chatting, we do not add the transcript to the blog for at least 24 hrs so you can still add your thoughts. Thank you to @preston_jenny for hosting this evenings thought provoking discussion.
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@Amie_OT @OTalk_ You can search for studies relating to your ‘speciality’ via the NIHR Research Portfolio - https://t.co/y77OxRN6Hp #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@YmchwilStroc @OTalk_ That's amazing. Thank you #otalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thank you everyone for your support and participation tonight. Hopefully we have made this topic a bit more accessible and demystified some of the anxieties #OTalk
Amie Jayne💚(she/her)🏳️‍🌈 @Amie_OT
@preston_jenny Its definitely given me food for thought and helped me understand the topic! @preston_jenny thank you! #otalk
Alex Smith @YmchwilStroc
@preston_jenny Diolch @preston_jenny for hosting tonight, seems to me that tonight’s #OTalk has stimulated some potential ideas for future research activity.
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
My pleasure! We've been involved for many years and it is a really good opportunity. Good luck #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
It sure has @YmchwilStroc Thank you for your invaluable input as always #OTalk
Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Thank you too @DrGillianWard for your input #OTalk
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Dr Jenny Preston MBE @preston_jenny
Brilliant, thanks for your contributions and questions @GeorgiaVineOT #OTalk
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