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#OTalk @OTalk_
Evening all. Welcome to tonights #OTalk. Its @Kirstie_OT on the @OTalk_ account tonight. This evening topic is involuntary childlessness with @LaughingOT. Who is out there & joining us? https://t.co/XCEZZ02zNV
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT @LaughingOT Hello gang! #otalk
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Please remember that your codes of conduct & ethics apply online as they do in practice. Be polite, kind & only share what you are happy to share #OTalk https://t.co/eiWVT7O6Bz
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Please remember to include the #OTalk hashtag in all your tweets so that everyone can see what you have to say & engage with you. https://t.co/GcB2ZYsape
Maria U @Mur5e11
@OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT @LaughingOT Hello. Listening in #otalk over here :)
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@Mur5e11 @Kirstie_OT @LaughingOT Fab to hear #OTalk
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Right lets hand over to @LaughingOT to kick of tonights #OTalk with question one... https://t.co/KOD3TwOA91
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@NikkiOTDyer @LaughingOT @BillWongOT @Kirstie_OT Hi Nikki, great to have you with us. If you want to join in the chat be sure to include the #OTalk hashtag in all your tweets so they get added to the conversation. Just shout if you need anything
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@NikkiOTDyer @BillWongOT @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT Apparently we need to add #OTalk every time we post.. I'm copying and pasting it! Lol! Xx
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Mur5e11 @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT Where's over here? #OTalk x
Nikki Dyer @NikkiOTDyer
@LaughingOT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT #OTalk this is my first time with you guys... I’m listening!
deb_OT @dmay_ot
Evening #OTalk! Not sure I have much to co tribute tonight but I'm here to learn!
Maria U @Mur5e11
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT Oh in technology neverland! I will try to keep up with #otalk from hackneyb london.
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTalk_ #OTalk if I may please can I stay with this is an emotive topic and may have triggers for you personally. I know for me personally it is a sensitive subject and empathy is appreciated. Xx
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
Popping in & out tonight... looks lie and interesting topic @LaughingOT #OTalk
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Some words from @LaughingOT #OTalk
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
RT @OTalk_: Some words from @LaughingOT #OTalk https://t.co/PbSFc9z9ak
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTalk_ #OTalk I feel this is a subject that isnt often considered by OTs..or in fact anyone unless you're the 1 in 6 experiencing this issue. I wondered if people could begin with 1) what occupations do you think involuntary childlessness effects? X
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Question 1 #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ hard topic for me today. So I am venturing a guess. I think socialization when out in the community- especially with dealing with friends who have children. #otalk
Alice Scanlon @alicehscanlon
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk or rather...are there any occupations that it doesn’t effect...?
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ I want to say it could impact in all our occupations... work, relationships, lesuire, and our self care. Depending on how the person experiencing it is dealing with it. #Otalk
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Most of them? Those trying with difficulty may find themselves too preoccupied/distracted to fully engage/participate? #Otalk
Alexander @AP_almost_an_OT
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ So many, along with roles. Those within relationships. Those in wider society where judgements and assumptions are made. #OTalk
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
@alicehscanlon @LaughingOT @OTalk_ Exactly! #Otalk
Maria U @Mur5e11
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ #otalk i think at the time you find out it will affect all your occupations because it affects your occupational identity...
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RT @BillWongOT: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ hard topic for me today. So I am venturing a guess. I think socialization when out in the community- es…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OTontheTracks: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ I want to say it could impact in all our occupations... work, relationships, lesuire, and our self c…
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ I would imagine that it has a significant effect on relationships - both within families and wider friendship networks. #otalk
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RT @AP_almost_an_OT: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ So many, along with roles. Those within relationships. Those in wider society where judgements and…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTalk_ #OTalk the other day I saw a tweet on here about how as OTs we shouldn't be involved in sex as an occupation. Had this been a consideration with involuntary childlessness? When sex basically means you are committing to half a month of hoping for a baby, counting the days to test?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @Mur5e11: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #otalk i think at the time you find out it will affect all your occupations because it affects your occupa…
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
RT @OTalk_: Most of them? Those trying with difficulty may find themselves too preoccupied/distracted to fully engage/participate? #Otalk h…
Kelly M @OTontheTracks
RT @alicehscanlon: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk or rather...are there any occupations that it doesn’t effect...?
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk Interestingly I feel this topic comes up quite a lot in my role with older adults, they tell me about their families & what support/lack of support they have in managing all aspects of their daily life e.g. societal expectations a child will shop/order online shopping etc.
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Another question from @LaughingOT? #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @OTalk_ #OTalk absolutely the pain of not only not being a parent but not creating a grandparent, aunt or cousin. The research shows longer term it can strengthen relationships if the couples turn to each other.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@dmay_ot @LaughingOT @OTalk_ Yes- sometimes some cultures will frown upon women who can't have children naturally. #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LaughingOT: @OTalk_ #OTalk the other day I saw a tweet on here about how as OTs we shouldn't be involved in sex as an occupation. Had t…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@BillWongOT @OTalk_ #OTalk perfect Bill, it is not only being not allowed into children and parent spaces e.g. child area of library. But also to friends children events and often the lose of friends who have children. Also the exclusion to child related conversation.
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#Otalk https://t.co/QzvX7zU7uw
Maria U @Mur5e11
@BillWongOT @dmay_ot @LaughingOT @OTalk_ Yes. And women themselves (and men) judge themselves by this as the meanings they grew up with. #otalk
Michelle Perryman @Symbolic_Life
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ I was part of that conversation which maybe misinterpreted. Yes sex is an ADL, but we must be considering the ‘doing’, we referred to treding carefully on the psychological impact of this and knowing when and where to refer. Understanding boundaries of role #otalk
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RT @LaughingOT: @BillWongOT @OTalk_ #OTalk perfect Bill, it is not only being not allowed into children and parent spaces e.g. child area o…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTontheTracks @alicehscanlon @OTalk_ #OTalk so spot on. The job you cant leave because you're always going for maternity leave and the times you don't yo to the supermarket as you get funny looks looking at babies or mothers day or Christmas or walking past baby clothes to get to adult clothes...
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ and sometimes with the age of social media, some of them could wish they have the abilities to have children after seeing pictures. #otalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk - and this can be lifelong, not just excluded from parent/child spaces but also from grandparent experiences as they age. Basically loads of fun play based activities you need to take a child along or people look at you a bit strangely!
Michelle Perryman @Symbolic_Life
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT I was part of that conversation which maybe misinterpreted. Yes sex is an ADL, but we must be considering the ‘doing’, we referred to treding carefully on the psychological impact of this and knowing when and where to refer. Understanding boundaries of role #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTontheTracks @OTalk_ #OTalk that was a big issue... it impacts everything but also as its invisible it is silent.
Dr Heather Baglee @HeatherBaglee
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT #Otalk any concept or issue that impacts on occupational performance is relevant to OT including all modes of performance including sex(and all its various meanings) in my opinion.
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ I think for some people there are financial considerations that will affect their occupational participation, e.g. having to spend a lot of money on IVF and not having as much money to spare on leisure during that time period #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Mur5e11 @OTalk_ #OTalk completely we are taught to parent from birth, our life calling... we celebrate parenthood ABC we are expected to attend events e.g. baby showers.
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Great point #OTalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk Indeed, it's only once a year but the silent activities of mothers/fathers day can be particularly difficult.
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@AP_almost_an_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk I read one article which said people, women especially, need to chose between pity and shame. Pity they can't "do" their gender or shame because they aren't "female, maternal" enough.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @Mur5e11 @OTalk_ yes- even at work for sure. I think my family probably is an exception where I have never heard either of my parents attending baby showers and they rarely attend weddings. #otalk
Maria U @Mur5e11
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ When people say they choose not to have a child, it seems hard to carry on the conversation. It seems it's not in our cultural language #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LaughingOT: @AP_almost_an_OT @OTalk_ #OTalk I read one article which said people, women especially, need to chose between pity and sham…
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@LaughingOT @Mur5e11 @OTalk_ I think that's cultural. Despite having my own kids (finally) I've never been expected to engage with other parents celebrations. Maybe I was too vehemently anti-children whilst failing to conceive. #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTalk_ #OTalk people refer to the experience akin to cancer or heart disease... 90% experience depression and over 40% suicidal thoughts.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @AP_almost_an_OT @OTalk_ yes- I know a friend of mine who chooses not to have kids and she is content with it. It's an exception for sure rather than the norm. #otalk
Maria U @Mur5e11
@dmay_ot @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #otalk i avoid all celebrations ;p
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk Wow, that's some scary stats. :-(
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk yes, it impacts from the age of fertility to death. The research shows there is a surge of distress at the age peers start becoming grandparents again.
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@emmadunton @UWEBristol @UWE_AHP #OTalk thank you!
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@Mur5e11 @LaughingOT Oh yes, i know that stunned silence lol #Otalk
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RT @mooartdotcom: #OTalk Interestingly I feel this topic comes up quite a lot in my role with older adults, they tell me about their famili…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Mur5e11 @BillWongOT @dmay_ot @OTalk_ #OTalk we often chose our jobs, homes, partners, locations, cars etc all in terms of parenting... especially when trying to conceive.
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk @LaughingOT I can imagine that, it's about roles and key life events at every stage. #occupationaldeprivation ?
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ #OTalk but it is an occupation greatly affected by infertility, it becomes a job, a broken body so body image issue, it affects intimacy not just as sex. Its incredibly costly.. so it impacts budgeting. It's never just sex in this scenario.. it feminist and masculinity.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @Mur5e11 @dmay_ot @OTalk_ absolutely... I think location might be a weaker link, since sometimes that can happen during if some people are in school. So, they will have to keep up with their roles as students while bracing for future motherhood (if it's their first one). #otalk
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We are half way through tonights #OTalk with @LaughingOT. 30 minutes left 👍🏻 https://t.co/RVabq4yytx
Kate Tudor @OT_KateT
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ I found it niggles at everything, and in a totally unpredictable/ irrational way. There's a singer I can't listen to ten years after I saw her live and she was pregnant when I was failing to be #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ #OTalk it's even a womans increased willingness to be physically abused according to some research to pay for her lack of child provision. X
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RT @LaughingOT: @Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ #OTalk but it is an occupation greatly affected by infertility, it becomes a job, a broken body so b…
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk actually maybe it's more occupational alienation?
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk I mourn for my mother, and grandmother before she died. I feel guilt for my lack of provision and also i have to mask happiness for her.
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT Surely we should be involved in any occupation which is meaningful to the client (and the client is open to engage with). Sex when trying for a child becomes even more multifaceted and meaningful #otalk
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT Sex will also be seen differently by different couples - a joy / a chore / connection/ mechanics. is There research in fertility and approach to sex? You hear a lot of hearsay about the stress of conceiving hindering success #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ #OTalk we can't afford ivf and also that brings a whole Occupational repercussions issue... fostering and adoption too
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Interesting idea....#OTalk
OTMargaret @margaret_ot
@OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT @LaughingOT #OTalk I am listening in tonight. Have friends in this situation, one accepted it the other struggled. Both needed tactful sensitive care. Struck by the aspects of grief and loss - also experienced by parents with children suffering severe disability. OTs can help with these area
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @wbbambam: @OTalk_ @LaughingOT Surely we should be involved in any occupation which is meaningful to the client (and the client is open…
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
@dmay_ot @LaughingOT #OTalk I wonder if that is just as difficult a question though?
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RT @margaret_ot: @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT @LaughingOT #OTalk I am listening in tonight. Have friends in this situation, one accepted it the othe…
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@wbbambam @OTalk_ @LaughingOT I think moving sex to 'duty' from fun or intimate can have repercussions for many years I think too #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ @LaughingOT yes- I think that also ties into dating, too. #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk and world book day, first school union, last day of school, Easter hat, GCSE results, funny phrase, my auntie's outfit, my first scan
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Mur5e11 @OTalk_ #OTalk it's a slightly different subject but there is so much stigma for choosing not too. That was rife through the research.
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@mooartdotcom @LaughingOT Possibly - but it shifts the responsibility from her to the potential next generation #otalk
OTMargaret @margaret_ot
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk Occupations that are affected r the planning, buying and celebrating that accompany pregnancy and birth.
Maria U @Mur5e11
@LaughingOT @Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ Paying for percieved personal failings may lead to acceptance of abuse and other risks...or are these dark occupations? #otalk the role of OT would be to facilitate a new valued occupational identity?
Michelle Perryman @Symbolic_Life
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ The intention of the previous convo as you mentioned is misinterpreted in your initial tweet, so I highlighted that. But talking occupations, would It not depend on how the person perceives this experience or disability and then their actions to engage in occupation? #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @Mur5e11 @OTalk_ #OTalk me personally I tolerate them with unhelpful people full of platitudes but enjoy those supportive folk who genuinely empathise and don't act like I'm.going to steam their children or are smug
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT #OTalk pity is an odd one... I think somedays I think my heart is breaking give me a bloody minute but that's wanting reprieve not pity. Some people devsted choosing pity over shame. When neither are frankly good options!!!
OTMargaret @margaret_ot
@Mur5e11 @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk I have met younger couples who are choosing not to have children as they have strong views on the environment /population levels etc. I think that's brave but not a decision I would make.
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RT @margaret_ot: @Mur5e11 @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk I have met younger couples who are choosing not to have children as they have strong v…
OTMargaret @margaret_ot
@Mur5e11 @LaughingOT @OTalk_ #OTalk Also I suppose this is voluntary choice, not involuntary.
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@LaughingOT @OTalk_ Another issue to consider is that some people have to make the difficult decision to involuntarily be childless to be legally recognised as who they are, leading to occupational deprivation and negative effects on mental health https://t.co/z09NQREJsn #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk scarier still adoption social workers don't know this!!! And they doubt your ability to adopt because of it! And they get references from all.your ex partners!! Imagine having your ex chose if you get a family?
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RT @colourful_ot: @LaughingOT @OTalk_ Another issue to consider is that some people have to make the difficult decision to involuntarily be…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk there is a percieved correlation between not reaching maturity and childlessness.the research and my experience is being treated less as an adult. Its felt you weren't responsible enough to commit to parenthood.
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@LaughingOT into the last 15 minutes of tonights #OTalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk @margaret_ot I suspect whilst some people are clearly making a choice either way for others the line between voluntary & involuntary in such a complex issue is somewhat blurry.
Alice Scanlon @alicehscanlon
@LaughingOT @mooartdotcom Going through the adoption process must have a HUGE impact on all occupations too. Like life is on pause until the verdict is made? #otalk
OTMargaret @margaret_ot
@LaughingOT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ #OTalk I have one friend who is single, she has godchildren and many good friends who include her in family activities and fun. Really important we include people who would like children in family Occupations, board games, days out, etc
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@OT_KateT @OTalk_ #OTalk I left my hairdresser when she got pregnant... which leads to the interesting concept of jealousy and how its strongest with those closest to.our vicinity.. so people get alienated from those closest
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RT @margaret_ot: @LaughingOT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ #OTalk I have one friend who is single, she has godchildren and many good friends who incl…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk I think it's not about the act as such but the intimacy, body confidence and repercussions in this instance.. x
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ @LaughingOT That is unbelievably sad. What a decision to have to make. Can imagine this would have a huge impact on mental health, could be very shaming #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk the research shows mainly a deteriorating sex life, described as work and no longer fun. For me personally it engages me in another painful cycle of hope.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@alicehscanlon @LaughingOT @mooartdotcom Yes- I have an OT friend who adopted a special needs kiddo recently. I think her parents played a role because her sister was also adopted. #otalk
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How do we think we as OTs can support those going through involuntary childlessness or a difficult conception process? #OTalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @LaughingOT: @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk the research shows mainly a deteriorating sex life, described as work and no longer fun. For me pe…
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@margaret_ot @LaughingOT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ Our kids have an oddmother who is childless but cooks up all kind of schemes that require a child (museum sleepovers etc) and borrows ours. #otalk
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT I would be interested to see if the expectations of roles and gender impact working with men in this area. I can imagine for both genders there could be an element of shame - we feel our bodies should do what we’re told they’re ‘made for’ #otalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
@LaughingOT Asking exes (?!) Is that for real? Now that really is terrifying. #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@margaret_ot @OTalk_ @Kirstie_OT #OTalk I agree. There is virtually no support as the loss isn't tangible. Personally I've been refused counselling x2 and told I need specialists help so discharged but given antidepressants.
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@wbbambam @colourful_ot @OTalk_ @LaughingOT Will be interesting for those of us who work with older adults to compare and contrast our patients who have children and those who don't. #otalk
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Any thoughts on this #OTalk?
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk and how many relationships are left due to child debate? The exs who go to have children after years of trying? The exs giving adoption references? How many people not dates due to their child desire?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
Side comment- I never was asked to be a godfather yet. I wonder how many OT's would sign up for me to be for their kids' godfather. #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Mur5e11 @Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ #OTalk indeed... the ethics.. do you financially risk big gambles in treatment? Did you unethical adopt or surrogate? Did you fertilise eggs just to destroy them?
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@LaughingOT @dmay_ot @wbbambam @OTalk_ Since I am on the single market, I believe it would have been a matter of discussion at some point. So far I had not gone far enough with someone about kids yet. #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@dmay_ot @margaret_ot @LaughingOT @BillWongOT @OTalk_ I love the idea of oddparents! #OTalk
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@OTalk_ I think it will vary so much on the person. You need to find the meaning of their experience, identify what is impacting them negatively and look at how this can be adapted to fit more in line with their goals #otalk
Maria U @Mur5e11
@OTalk_ I think culture and upbringing are strong influences on men's expectations too, and how they respond to unforeseen challenges #otalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
@dmay_ot #OTalk This sounds great! :-)
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RT @wbbambam: @OTalk_ I think it will vary so much on the person. You need to find the meaning of their experience, identify what is impact…
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RT @Mur5e11: @OTalk_ I think culture and upbringing are strong influences on men's expectations too, and how they respond to unforeseen cha…
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@Mur5e11 @OTalk_ Yes- my family actually would love me to have kids by now. But, I haven't found my Ms. Right. So, they just told me to be patient. #otalk
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@wbbambam @OTalk_ @LaughingOT I'm really struggling to articulate this but I suspect the issues may be different for men and women. #otalk
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Last five minutes, any final thoughts or take home messages? #OTalk @LaughingOT
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@alicehscanlon @mooartdotcom #OTalk my experience led to almost 3 months off. We didn't get through the process due to my weight and my partner ex putting in a nasty reference. It's the lack of control that's debilitating. My training meant nothing. Just someone you don't know looking for your faults.
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@OTalk_ If the person feels like they're missing something in their lives our role could be in helping them to explore their interests, find new hobbies/rediscover old hobbies #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
So important. #OTalk there are assumptions that people don't want invites.. sometimes they don't, BUT sometimes they do, desperately
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
@dmay_ot I suspect you're right, at least, I suspect the conversations and cultural language may be different although some of the occupational issues & emotions experienced are likely to be the same. #OTalk
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RT @colourful_ot: @OTalk_ If the person feels like they're missing something in their lives our role could be in helping them to explore th…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @mooartdotcom #OTalk only about 1% of the 750,000 children are being successfully placed in England and Wales. I'm meeting with the Welsh assembly to challenge the process.
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk apparently in some cultures went take the blame to protect the men. Also some women prefer the safety of https://t.co/JaOQypft2j that do less parenting talk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk hence why we can't adopt
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RT @mooartdotcom: @dmay_ot I suspect you're right, at least, I suspect the conversations and cultural language may be different although so…
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@OTalk_ @LaughingOT I’m very much in support of OTs working in areas like this and hope we embrace such a role. I think there’s such important work we can do around transitions and roles. It makes me think back to ‘doing, being, becoming’ and working with those who struggle to ‘become’ #otalk
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@LaughingOT @mooartdotcom That's appalling. That wastes so much potential happiness. #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk they https://t.co/daT9VJQTek the hopelessness loop..hope despair and repair
Maria U @Mur5e11
@colourful_ot @OTalk_ #otalk it makes me think of the y shaped model but also need to address the limitations of the social environment
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#OTalk Tuesday 20th August 2019. Do Occupational Therapist routinely assess clients menstrual cycle, it’s affect on functioning and ability to engagement in occupations? https://t.co/5cPTUuvhvp https://t.co/3tgwPTrz0S
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @wbbambam: @OTalk_ @LaughingOT I’m very much in support of OTs working in areas like this and hope we embrace such a role. I think there…
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Well thats our offical #OTalk hour up, please do keep chatting as we do not grab the transcript for a few days. Thank you to everyone who has participated & to @LaughingOT for hosting. https://t.co/c80vOpNn20
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ @LaughingOT Lifestyle redesign, anyone? #otalk
deb_OT @dmay_ot
@Mur5e11 @colourful_ot @OTalk_ The Y shaped model? #otalk
Bill Wong, OTD, OTR/L @BillWongOT
RT @OTalk_: #OTalk Tuesday 20th August 2019. Do Occupational Therapist routinely assess clients menstrual cycle, it’s affect on functioning…
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk men struggle too but often suppress their emotions to support the overtly grieving female partner in heterosexual relationships
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Great final thought from @wbbambam #OTalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
@LaughingOT That's awful. I'm fully supportive of you challenging that. I can't imagine any circumstance in which that could possibly be considered a good idea. Heartbreaking all round. #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
#OTalk I'm so sorry, its over so quickly! I appreciate your amazing engagement and kindness!!! You're all fabulous and hope you can see this is an often hidden but life impacting issue. Xx
Becky Bamford @wbbambam
@mooartdotcom @OTalk_ @dmay_ot I suspect so also. Although I’ve had my eyes open with working with men who have experienced birth trauma. It made me realise we can neglect (or assume) the needs of men in relation to conception/ childbirth #otalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @alicehscanlon @mooartdotcom #OTalk getting ivf is hideous too.
Maria U @Mur5e11
@dmay_ot @colourful_ot @OTalk_ Oh it might be a psychology model... About coming to terms with loss of an imagined identity and making an alternative that fits your narrative #otalk
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@Mur5e11 @OTalk_ I wasn't aware of the Y-shaped model, that's interesting! I was thinking about the Model of Human Occupation, specifically habituation (helping the person to create new roles, rituals, etc. for themselves) #OTalk
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk I'm hoping so!!! Thank you!
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RT @wbbambam: @mooartdotcom @OTalk_ @dmay_ot I suspect so also. Although I’ve had my eyes open with working with men who have experienced b…
Carolina Cordero 🌈 @colourful_ot
@Mur5e11 @dmay_ot @OTalk_ I found a nice graphic of it when I looked it up #OTalk https://t.co/374yILnLQh
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@Symbolic_Life @OTalk_ Sorry lovely, sounds like semantics. The 'doing'.. the doing is sex and anything related, to me. Not trying to manipulate just my understanding. #OTalk
Susan Windeatt @mooartdotcom
#OTalk @LaughingOT Thankyou this has been a very different and thought provoking and at times challenging topic. I can imagine the post-otalk reflection is going to require some extra thought this week also. Take care all X
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@BillWongOT @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk indeed... which apparently only really happens in earnest at present when people give up trying. Surely thsys a role for OT?! People shouldn't have to give up trying!!
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RT @colourful_ot: @Mur5e11 @dmay_ot @OTalk_ I found a nice graphic of it when I looked it up #OTalk https://t.co/374yILnLQh
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk thank you. Its the fo us of my PhD. I want more children adopted, as ivf is already decreasing adoption. Xx
Chloe Dickson @ChloeDicksonOT
RT @colourful_ot: @Mur5e11 @dmay_ot @OTalk_ I found a nice graphic of it when I looked it up #OTalk https://t.co/374yILnLQh
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@dmay_ot @wbbambam @OTalk_ #OTalk research indicates you're right. Men see themselves more independently and women see themselves more by their family.
Alice Hortop @LaughingOT
@mooartdotcom #OTalk you too lovy. Thank you. X
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