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physiotalk @physiotalk
Good evening and welcome tonights #physiotalk on Peer Assisted Learning (PAL) placements.
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Before we start with the questions - as usual we would love for you to say hello and where you are tweeting from! #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk Good evening from Plymouth #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
I'm on the @physiotalk account tonight - tweeting from a slightly sleety Edinburgh #physiotalk
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And a reminder - of course - that you do need to include the hashtag #physiotalk in all of your tweets for us to follow your tweets!
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk Hello 👋🏼 Angie from@Devon #PhysioTalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk Lewis - Lincoln, but currently on placement in Hull #physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk Hello from Nottingham #physiotalk
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@christiephysio Welcome! #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk Hello 👋🏼 Angie from Devon #PhysioTalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk Hello from me in Bedfordshire, MSc physio student on placement in London #physiotalk
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RT @physiotalk: Before we start with the questions - as usual we would love for you to say hello and where you are tweeting from! #physiot…
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk Hello from Yorkshire #physiotalk
Aideen Larmer @AideenPhysio
@physiotalk Hello, Aideen tweeting from London 👋🏻 #physiotalk
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@gardiner_jane Hi - can you put #physiotalk in your tweets so we can follow the chat Thanks!
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Great to see both students, educators and I think lecturers taking part. All perspectives needed and welcome! #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk Hi 👋🏽 Amy from Eastbourne. Here tonight to learn about this placement type! 😊 #physiotalk
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Lets get going with our first question then! #physiotalk
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Q: What do you understand by the term PAL placement? #physiotalk
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We need to make sure that we are all talking about the same thing! #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk For me I would think about placements where the student is learning with or alongside a peer - ie another student - could be same /different stage, same program or interprofessional or students from a different HEI #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk Placements where more than one student is involved, with the aim of facilitating each others learning? #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Hello! Mari from Sweden here #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@Airedaleahps @UOB_Physio @anita_unibrad @physioschool
Roxy 🎀 @RuqayyaFortune
@physiotalk Placing students in varies clinical settings ensuring a student or a few students with a great deal of understanding of concepts, application and clinical reasoning at the same site to help the other students 🤷‍♀️ #physiotalk
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@christiephysio So a range of PAL types? This means that a peer might not be a direct peer then possibly? (and in same programme / same level) #physiotalk
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The definition we used on the blog was... #physiotalk
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The PAL model is when two or more students are supervised by one practice educator within a specific clinical area. This would be two or more students collaboratively working together and actively learning with and from each other on placement. #physiotalk
Linda Tremain @lindatremain34
@physiotalk Hi #physiotalk from porthcawl 👍
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Anybody have anything different to this? #physiotalk
UWE Physio Soc @uwephysiosoc
RT @physiotalk: The PAL model is when two or more students are supervised by one practice educator within a specific clinical area. This wo…
physiotalk @physiotalk
@lindatremain34 Welcome! #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk Yes I think so... Great opportunity for IPL learning and to me Peer might be any stage #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk Potentially one educator has 2 students (may be more) where students are learning alongside/supporting one another. #PhysioTalk
KB @KBNeuroinfo
Sorry, late to the chat.. hi from South Wales #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Placement with 2 students at the same clinic/hospital allowing learning from each other. #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk ? 2:1 model, 2 students, 1 educator, sharing a caseload and supporting each other #physiotalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk Hi 👋 Vas from Swansea. #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk Ohhhh! Like a 2:1 model? I see 😊 #PhysioTalk
physiotalk @physiotalk
@AmyDolling Well that is a question really. Is a PAL placement different to a 2:1 model? #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk Yes although it could be more than 1 educator? In reality in clinical practice students are rending to be supported by multiple educators due to increasing part-time working and other factors #physiotalk
QMUPhysio @QMUPhysio
@logan_angie @physiotalk We have had more than 2 students on a PAL placement - but facilitated also by more than one educator during the placement #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk @AmyDolling Depends how the placement is structured maybe?? Are the students given time /space /opportunity to learn from each other or do they just have 2 students?? #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@QMUPhysio @physiotalk Do you have a ratio of students to educator? #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk @AmyDolling Yes, when 3 students are involved haha. I'm intrigued to find out what students make of this model in practice (because I have never experienced it) #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@christiephysio @physiotalk Thats certainly something I see in my placement coordinator role at @QMUPhysio Rare to be just one educator really. #physiotalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk 2 students in one placement. They supporting and learning from each other. #physiotalk
QMUPhysio @QMUPhysio
@logan_angie @physiotalk That placement site it was 4:2 Started for a test as 3:1 but even numbers seemed to work better! #pairs #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@christiephysio @physiotalk Ahh I see your point! Maximising the peer learning is the essential part here. I’ve seen a lot of our SALT colleagues do this very well with their students #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@_lewadam @physiotalk @AmyDolling Student experience often very positive but it does depend on how it is managed #physiotalk
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RT @christiephysio: @physiotalk @AmyDolling Depends how the placement is structured maybe?? Are the students given time /space /opportunity…
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Onto a very quick question 2 ... #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@christiephysio @physiotalk @AmyDolling I can imagine, very successful with two engaged and motivated students to push each other along. Healthy competition to impress perhaps... #physiotalk
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Q: Have you experienced a PAL placement as educator or student? #physiotalk Answer Yes / No and in what capacity!
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk Yes, on my first student placement over 20 years ago! One clinical educator was off sick, it wasn't planned! #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk I have had many placements alongside other student peers but this has not extended to shared learning opportunities #physiotalk
Charlie Winward wash your hands @OCEConsultant
@physiotalk #physiotalk from Oxford, lurking 😊
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk As a placement coordinator for Uni we have several providers who take more than one student at a time. The degree of peer learning within these might vary though #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@physiotalk I cannot remember far enough back into the mists of time to comment on my student experience! #physiotalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk Not yet as a educator but can surely see the university pushing for it. #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@MvWisson @physiotalk Good point - just being there at the same time doesn't equate to peer learning! #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk As a student, no. As an educator no. I’m interested to know if PAL has been used in community settings as well as inpatient/outpatient. #PhysioTalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@christiephysio @physiotalk Yes - we have a number of 2:1 placements but these might not have peer learning. Is it something you are actively encouraging locally? #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk #PhysioTalk
Charlie Winward wash your hands @OCEConsultant
@physiotalk #physiotalk no but intrigued, would gave helped me in the dark ages of diploma old skool learning
KB @KBNeuroinfo
@physiotalk Yes as a student 25+ years ago, both a 4:2 model and 2:1 model. Helpful to be with peers for discussion #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@logan_angie @physiotalk We have one coming up in a community setting. #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@christiephysio @physiotalk Saying that I am unsure what extra benefits you would get from sharing learning with a peer compared to any member of the physio team you are working alongside? #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@JanetThomas47 @physiotalk In some places yes - but there are environmental, organisational and individual barriers - on the flip side done teams only want 2:1 placements #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
RT @MvWisson: @christiephysio @physiotalk Saying that I am unsure what extra benefits you would get from sharing learning with a peer compa…
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@physiotalk Yes, had one placement outside of an NHS setting with another student. We worked quite closely together, we would run exercise classes together and discuss caseload and treatment ideas #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk We have tried a brief engagement event with our local HEI and practice educators around this type of placement, and are just coming to the end of our first trial placement, but no feedback yet #physiotalk
Jane Gardiner @gardiner_jane
@physiotalk No - I like the idea but I am not sure how we could work this on community placements? (Anyone do this?) #physiotalk
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Ok - just about half way through and time for our next question #physiotalk
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Q: What do you think are the advantages of a PAL placement - for the student? #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@MvWisson @christiephysio @physiotalk The input from both students I am presuming to engage discussion around clinical reason etc? #physiotalk
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And please focus on the student experience for your answers (perhaps you can guess question 4....) #physiotalk
KB @KBNeuroinfo
@JolockyearPT @physiotalk Being able to talk through options and reasoning with a peer less daunting #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk Bounce off ideas, support one another's learning, accountability, time efficient #physiotalk
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@KBNeuroinfo @physiotalk Definitely! Also helped that were were good friend so that made it even easier! #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk Aside from educational the peer support can be really important. Living away from usual accommodation, socially and geographically isolated from support networks can be a massive strain for students. #physiotalk
Jane Gardiner @gardiner_jane
@JanetThomas47 @logan_angie @physiotalk I'd be interested in how you manage this. #physiotalk
Tara Carroll @TLCarroll_
@physiotalk Yes as a student on placement we worked together. It was useful to discuss and bounce ideas off each other but was also challenging too #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@physiotalk Peer support as well as learning Less isolation if in remote / rural setting Assists with case complexity Active learning from your peer #physiotalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk Supporting each other in and out of placement, sharing the knowledge and experience #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@gardiner_jane @logan_angie @physiotalk Not my placement - I'm the placement coordinator for the HEI! #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@christiephysio @physiotalk Could not agree more. Not nice when you're away from home and somewhat isolated in a new area where you know nobody #physiotalk
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RT @christiephysio: @physiotalk Aside from educational the peer support can be really important. Living away from usual accommodation, soc…
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
Financial benefits too - lift or accommodation sharing #Physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk - Settle into placements quicker - Increase confidence when discussing patient experience/interactions -Sharing learning objectives, feeding back (like Problem based learning style) #PhysioTalk Have we got any physio students in tonight who would like to share their experiences?
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk To be able to discuss patients/experiences with someone who is at the same level as you. An oppertunity to question/revalue what uni has taught you. Put things in perspective. #physiotalk
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RT @logan_angie: @physiotalk - Settle into placements quicker - Increase confidence when discussing patient experience/interactions -Shari…
Lauren Farley @thephysiomama
@physiotalk Peer support! Also if it was someone from the same cohort it may put the student more at ease being with someone familiar that they can ask any study related questions to #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
RT @logan_angie: @physiotalk - Settle into placements quicker - Increase confidence when discussing patient experience/interactions -Shari…
Mari @mariand84
@christiephysio @physiotalk Very true! #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk On my most resent placement we have had staff supported student debrief sessions that have allowed us to share experiences and advice, I presume PAL placements would offer this on a larger scale #physiotalk
Charlie Winward wash your hands @OCEConsultant
@physiotalk #physiotalk is there a better dynamic for the learner? Sometimes professional educators can be 'all knowing' = power
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@OCEConsultant An interesting thought - what do others think? #physiotalk
KB @KBNeuroinfo
@physiotalk Greater confidence in own ability through collaboration with peer(s). More autonomy in decision making or caseload management as can be shared #physiotalk
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So - onto the next (and linked!) question #physiotalk
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Q: What do you think are the advantages of a PAL placement - for the educator? #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk You can learn a lot about yourself as a colleague and a learner from having to give and receive feedback on this level. Hopefully the best learners and supervisors for the future #PhysioTalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk Less time teaching/answering questions, but more time able to just facilitate the placement and providing the experiences #physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk Find it harder to answer this question #physiotalk
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RT @AmyDolling: @physiotalk Less time teaching/answering questions, but more time able to just facilitate the placement and providing the e…
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physiotalk Good question! I think if well organised can help reduce the workload for the educator and can help really maximise learning opportunities - some placements use peers observing and providing feedback too #physiotalk
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@naojane18_PT That's interesting. Are the advantages all on the side of the student? I suspect not... #physiotalk
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RT @christiephysio: @physiotalk Good question! I think if well organised can help reduce the workload for the educator and can help really…
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk I also thought it could generate some real dynamic learning between the students and educator #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
One provider gets students to undertake new assessments together - one does subjective and other objective (both take notes) then clinically reason together and provide each other with feedback. They practise techniques on each other too #Physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk I work in the community so it would always be harder, eg can't see how it could reduce the workload? #physiotalk
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@christiephysio This sounds like a great model that would support student learning #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
It might take some pressure of the Educator... Some feel so responsible for the students learning on placement #Physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk #physiotalk
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@naojane18_PT Anybody in the community have experience for PAL placements? Would you always have to travel together for example? #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk I believed there would be an educator time saving from enabling the students to support and learn from each, but educator concerns are predominantly around double paperwork #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@physjo @physiotalk This is a good point! Certainly something to think about #physiotalk
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@physjo Would the time 'saved' from peer supporting activities = time taken for double paperwork? Anyone have experience and can comment #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk ⬆️ discussion/clinical reasoning between students that may be more fluid & forthcoming than between student & educator (may be??) Is there much research on PAL re: benefits for educators, students & patients? Are there tools/guidance to facilitate PAL in placements? #PhysioTalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk Students can support n learn from each other this gives the educator some space to manage caseload and other clinical duties #physiotalk
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RT @Vas_Sampath: @physiotalk Students can support n learn from each other this gives the educator some space to manage caseload and other c…
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@logan_angie @physiotalk Certainly work in nursing models like CLipp #physiotalk
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Thanks for all your comments about the advantages of a PAL placement model Now onto our next question... #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@logan_angie @physiotalk Some research looking into student experience too #physiotalk
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
Sorry to join late. I've been following whilst eating dinner.. Susie from Plymouth #PhysioTalk
KB @KBNeuroinfo
@Vas_Sampath @physiotalk Agree, especially when demand and volume of placements is often high #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@logan_angie @physiotalk In Scotland there has been a AHP PAL handbook developed by @NESnmahp @migahped Research linked on our blog post for todays chat #physiotalk
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Q: What are your concerns about PAL placements? #physiotalk
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
I have experience as a student. Out patients worked well and we got on but i had a very negative experience in paeds partly as the 2 of us didnt get on well and it also felt like an excuse to abandon us for hours at a time to read or discuss something #PhysioTalk
Vasanth Sampath @Vas_Sampath
@physiotalk Whether it would become competitive between the two students #physiotalk
Roxy 🎀 @RuqayyaFortune
RT @JanetThomas47: @logan_angie @physiotalk In Scotland there has been a AHP PAL handbook developed by @NESnmahp @migahped Research linke…
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk Would students benefit more from having these discussions with other physio members on the team as opposed to peers #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk An over-powering student, who isn't keen to share/facilitate the others learning #physiotalk
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@logan_angie @christiephysio Presume CLiPP is this? https://t.co/POKApbLNBu #physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk Difficulty when assessing, how would you separate the students and grade individually when they have been working so closely together? #physiotalk
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
Potential for patients to feel a bit like an experiment...#PhysioTalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk My main concern is around getting engagement with the benefits of this type of placement vs perception that it is only valid as a tool to increase capacity #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk When I’ve had multiple students in the past, they haven’t gotten on well with each other and so it’s made joint work extremely difficult. 😳 #PhysioTalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@JanetThomas47 @physiotalk @NESnmahp @migahped Does @thecsp (or other AHP, nursing midwifery bodies) have plans for a task force or committee that will review evidence & make guidelines for PAL (clinicians, HEI, other key members) #PhysioTalk.
Tara Carroll @TLCarroll_
@physiotalk Concerns as a student is that what if we are at different levels or struggle on other things? Worried the placement wouldn't help as much as standard 1:1 placements if this was the case as one person would always be left out #physiotalk
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@physiotalk It’s got to be when it comes to marking... Ive experienced where Two students scored the same overall. Whilst we both deserved our grades 🤓 there were some domains I know for sure the other student was ‘better’ at than me but we were marked the same #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@_lewadam @physiotalk This was raised as a concern with our teams #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
I agree - often when we try to talk to placement providers about this model they automatically assume it is just a capacity building exercise #physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@Vas_Sampath @physiotalk Just discussed this with my last student, definitely a negative factor for her #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk If the two students are not a good "match". Ie one very shy and introvert the other extremely extrovert "taking over". #physiotalk
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Lots of concerns about grading / marking placements What if placements were pass / fail? #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@JolockyearPT @physiotalk And that students are marked against the criteria - not each other #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physiotalk On the flip side, a student who could be limiting the other students learning potential due to lack of commitment/motivation to learn #physiotalk
KB @KBNeuroinfo
@physiotalk Managing students with variance in their ability and providing appropriate support for each #physiotalk
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
I also had a respiratory placement in my 3rd year and there was a 2nd year student from another uni so no direct comparison or competition. He definitely got a lot from me and I enjoyed feeling like I knew something #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@physjo @physiotalk I think it comes back to my earlier thoughts of wanting to impress. Could be a hard balance to find, and eagerness may come across to the other student as 'too keen' haha #physiotalk
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How about if you had to deal with a student who was failing placement (and one who was passing) #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
Pairing the right students together is important - not too close to each other but must be able to work together!! It's an important skill for life too - often they will start alongside other Band 5's and will need to be able to support each other #Physiotalk
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@christiephysio That's such a good point for later working once graduated #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk Many peer learning opportunities occur whilst at university, on placement I think it’s best to gain/share knowledge with the working physio team #physiotalk
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@physiotalk Don’t think pass/ fail Marking criteria allows to demonstrate a students strengths and areas for improvement in each domain #physiotalk
Chloe Dooley @chloedooley99
@physiotalk I think this would be a much better approach - it would allow students to focus on what they need to learn rather than trying to comply with a markscheme which I find sometimes forces you into a learning approach that isn’t natural #physiotalk
Lewis Lovegrove @_lewadam
@chloedooley99 @physiotalk Mine are pass fail and I find it does allow for a more natural learning experience - I agree #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk Potentially a lot of added pressure on both students in this case, and possible breakdown of the placement #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@TLCarroll_ @physiotalk Or if a student has additional learning needs but doesn’t wish to be open about this with their peer. Could make this peer support more difficult #physiotalk
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A couple of minutes left - time you final thoughts. If you haven't experienced a PAL placement as student or educator - do you think you might like to now? #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk However student discussion/learning periods for an hour a week, for example, on placement could provide benefits of PALs placements without the cons and losing the pros of 1:1 model learning #physiotalk
Chloe Dooley @chloedooley99
@physiotalk Concerns would be that it’s easy to get lost if there are multiple students and not feel confident to ask questions/ask for help if other students aren’t #physiotalk
Ellena @ellena_farrow
@chloedooley99 @physiotalk But it can also take away the motivation to work as hard as possible for the best mark. If you know you’re passing you can just coast through and not progress as much as if you worked for top grade #physiotalk
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
It always feels like such a shame when people are so focused on marks rather than appreciating the learning opportunities #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@physiotalk But with the right pairing, there are so many more learning opportunities running alongside the clinical development #physiotalk
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That's the hour up! Thanks for some great conversations about PAL placements #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@JolockyearPT @physiotalk Students work hard for marks and often do better in placement if they are not as strong at writing academically - grades allow them to have their skills recognised #physiotalk
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Feel free to keep on chatting - we will collect the transcript later #physiotalk
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@christiephysio @physiotalk And win highest clinical placement awards 😂🤓 #physiotalk
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@physiotalk As an educator, I would line to, but only with lots of planning and discussion with the school to ensure the right student pairing #physiotalk
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And a reminder that if you want to suggest a #physiotalk topic - then just tweet us your idea, DM us or email physiotalk@outlook.com
Susie Wolstenholme @SusieWolstenho1
@physiotalk I wouldn't feel comfortable in my area having 2:1 for a number of reasons but maybe having some periods with other teams students during placements #physiotalk
Chloe Dooley @chloedooley99
@_lewadam @physiotalk I often find myself prioritising work that meets the markscheme rather than what suits me best. Some aspects work as they do make you focus on the important skills #physiotalk
Christie Robinson @christiephysio
@SusieWolstenho1 Absolutely - getting the balance right is important - often focusing on learning and maximising opportunities will lead to the higher marks anyway!! #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk I have not experienced it and would not mind it IF the peer and instructor are good ppl. #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
@physiotalk Yes I’d like to try it as an educator. But I’d like to work closely with the Uni to ensure the two students are the type who’d work well together #PhysioTalk
suzanna harless @suzannaelh
@physiotalk I think this would be a much better approach, as it would allow students to focus on what they are taught and develop at their own pace instead of fitting on what is written on paper. #physiotalk
Chloe Dooley @chloedooley99
@ellena_farrow @physiotalk Agreed! It does challenge you to strive for top marks, but I feel that those of us motivated to do well would push ourselves regardless #physiotalk
Amy Jepson @AmyDolling
RT @physiotalk: And a reminder that if you want to suggest a #physiotalk topic - then just tweet us your idea, DM us or email physiotalk@ou…
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@AmyDolling @physiotalk Yes, that could work, good point #physiotalk
Dr Angie Logan @logan_angie
@physiotalk As a clinical educator, the time it would take to set up & facilitate effective PAL & positive experience for student, educator & patients. As a lecturer, the buy-in of adopting PAL from clinical educators/organisations- but that’s no reason to avoid it!! #PhysioTalk
Chloe Dooley @chloedooley99
RT @physiotalk: Good evening and welcome tonights #physiotalk on Peer Assisted Learning (PAL) placements.
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk That’s not to say I disagree with the initiative, I just think it requires the correct pairing between students, educator and setting. For example I can see it largely benefiting students in the MSK outpatient setting with complex patients and practical skills #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@AmyDolling @physiotalk Second this from an educator's point of view #physiotalk
Megan Wisson @MvWisson
@physiotalk I would like to try it in a speciality I have already experienced on placement with a 1:1 model to see if it allows me to gain further learning opportunities #physiotalk
physiotalk @physiotalk
@MvWisson That's an interesting thought. Do you get to repeat specialities though to try this out? #physiotalk
Jo Sainty @physjo
@Airedaleahps I moved from background hoverer to tweet chat at #physiotalk discussion of peer assisted learning, I would encourage taking part in relevant subjects fellow physios/AHPs. Our student journey continues...
Naomi Cummins @naojane18_PT
@logan_angie @JanetThomas47 @physiotalk @NESnmahp @migahped @thecsp https://t.co/lkWnw5qSDl lots of information already on here #physiotalk
WCPTfuture @WCPTfuture
RT @physiotalk: Peer assisted learning placements #physiotalk 3rd Feb 8pm https://t.co/Qr6yQED57z https://t.co/V7AnwiurGh
WCPTfuture @WCPTfuture
RT @logan_angie: @physiotalk - Settle into placements quicker - Increase confidence when discussing patient experience/interactions -Shari…
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