#PhysioTalk Transcript
Healthcare social media transcript of the #PhysioTalk hashtag.
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| Profile | Tweet |
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 | Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB Hi all Laura joining you from UK #PhysioTalk |
 | Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX @physiotalk @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT good evening from Doha, ready for an exciting discussion! Great news -- I woke up BEFORE the tweet chat :) #physiotalk |
 | Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Hi everyone, Jackie joining in from the ice planet Hoth (aka - Edmonton, Canada) #physiotalk |
 | Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman MSK APP from Milton Keynes 👋#physiotalk |
 | John Xerri de Caro @johnxdc Good evening from Malta too #physiotalk rainy rainy rainy here |
 | Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Looking forward to the discussion @physiotalk @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @ekstokes #physiotalk |
 | Suzanne Brown 💙 @suzeeyre @physiotalk 👋🏼 Community physio, Newcastle ⛄️ #physiotalk |
 | Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk checking in from sunny Wellington good morning, Anne |
 | Claire Arditto @ArdittoClaire @physiotalk Hi from North Yorkshire! #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX Windy Wellington! Where's @JonWarrenNZ ?? #physiotalk |
 | Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk Hi. Joe, physio working in a front-door frailty service in the South West. #physiotalk |
 | Myriam @Myriam_O @physiotalk Hello from Doha #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Hello, great to have input from #globalPT #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JHaleATX @JonWarrenNZ late again...#physiotalk |
 | Marjorie Gingras fellow pht @MarjorieGingras Shoulder PT in Montreal ( under the freezing rain right now...)Quebec Canada #physiotalk |
 | Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis #PhysioTalk Joining from 2050 to advise on future curriculum..🙂 #BackToTheFuture https://t.co/eTN92G5fne |
 | Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @JHaleATX Only a little wind at the moment #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JonWarrenNZ @JHaleATX be careful what you say Jon g'day mate #physiotalk |
 | Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @physiotalk Martyn in Solihull #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @physiotalk: |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @MariaLouisaBusu @JHaleATX Gidday #physiotalk |
 | Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @Hartey_PT @physiotalk I knew the numbers were counting in French... But back to #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX RT @Daleyfurter: |
 | Reena Patel @ReenaPatel2120 @physiotalk Reena, Sutton Coldfield UK #PhysioTalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk I agree it feels like we are responding to the landscape and preparing future workforce in most areas #physiotalk |
 | Eily @eilymcc @physiotalk Good morning from Melbourne! #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis Developing professionals with problem solving and critical thinking skills who are excellent communicators. Lifelong learners able to continue their development. #physiotalk |
 | Barbara Sanders @BarbSanders evaluation is a hallmark of PT education in US #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk Well, hopefully teaching 'modern' physiotherapy to a very high standard. Ultimately, producing competent and enthusiatic physiotherapists who can fill the huge void in the workforce #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX RT @Prof_IeuanEllis: Developing professionals with problem solving and critical thinking skills who are excellent communicators. Lifelong learners able to continue their development. #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Our graduates communicate effectively, demonstrate professionalism, are ambitious for themselves and their patients/ clients #physiotalk @MariaLouisaBusu @bendotellis @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @ie |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk Q1 Interprofessional education, clinical reasoning, patient centered approach |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Compassionate enthusiastic thinkers - sometimes problem solvers #physiotalk |
 | Joe Curtin @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk Good evening from a recent Irish Physio grad, now working in Ipswich #physiotalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @physiotalk Teaching the ‘core’ physio areas of msk, neuro, resp Anatomy knowledge #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes A1. Graduating smart, compassionate, physiotherapists who initially are very excited about what the profession has to offer. #physiotalk |
| Barbara Sanders @BarbSanders I think we include significant education on how to evaluate a movement disorder, etc. but sometimes fail to be sure that we teach the best evidence based intervention. #physiotalk |
| Barbara Sanders @BarbSanders RT @Prof_IeuanEllis: Developing professionals with problem solving and critical thinking skills who are excellent communicators. Lifelong learners able to continue their development. #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen I agree but overarching qualities can be identified #physiotalk @JHaleATX @physiotalk |
| Claire Arditto @ArdittoClaire Q1 curricula still needs a sound theoretical basis..anatomy, physiology etc then translate into practice #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @Prof_IeuanEllis #physiotalk I would question whether we are actually doing this. That’s a tall ask as a new grad considering everything else you have to learn. I think these are key skills but not teaching/developing them well enough at the moment. |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Are we reactive or proactive in responding to the landscape #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Good basic fundamental knowledge in anatomy, physiology etc. Understanding of the BPS model , oh and did I say enthusiastic & driven #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @ClaireSweetman @Prof_IeuanEllis I think this is what we aspire to do and agree it may not always translate #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @physiotalk @StehartleyPT Ireland had a minimum of 1000 hours when I graduated over a decade ago, I'm sure it hasn't changed. Australia also 1000 hours I believe. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @bendotellis @LizHoley I totally agree Ben, there is a difference between thinking and problem solving #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes Mandatory 1000 hours - quality clinical hours is the key. The number should only be a guide. #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JonWarrenNZ @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk I think it is variable to be honest , locally UoB has embraced SDM #physiotalk |
| Joe Curtin @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk As a recent grad we are active learners and not passive. We apply the skills we develop early on to be able to assess and reason a patient's treatment holistically with a focus on the BPS model. We are competent with creating our own and appraising others research. #physiotalk |
 | gwyn owen @gwyn_owen @physiotalk current curriculum in the UK (things that are formally part of the programme - not including all the extracurricular/lifewide learning experiences that students also engage in) produces a graduate with capacity 4 autonomous problem-solving person-centred PT practice #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @bendotellis @MartynWyres @physiotalk I have a real problem with 'core' areas at times. Perhaps one for a later question... #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes @physiotalk I mean programmes that respond to an ever changing health and social care backdrop. e.g. moving to developing greater levels of critical thinking, whilst maybe not so much on skills that are less used in 2019. #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ellena_farrow @physiotalk I agree. Unfortunately good clinicians does not = good teachers. #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @Em_Garratt @ekstokes @physiotalk Oh you! By competent, I mean not incompetent ;) #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @physiotalk: |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk I think they understand this but its complicated and hard especially as a new PT to equip them with the tools to do it effectively #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton What they are letting themselves in for. #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes @bendotellis @StehartleyPT @physiotalk In NZ it is 'around' 100 hours. Appreciating that the need is for quality hours. #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @physiotalk Some students here in Melbourne are choosing to complete a chronic disease management placement as part of their undergrad training and join me in helping improve quality of life for people suffering from persistent pain. #physiotalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @physiotalk How to work outside of the NHS, How to work in a broader context, How to research #physiotalk |
 | Connie Snell @ConcICU @physiotalk It's great to see " evidence of data collection and involvement in audits" in 3rd year marking criteria. #earlyserviceimprovement #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q2. How to learn! How to find evidence, appraise it & translate into the clinic. We can guarantee them that they will not leave the program with all the knowledge that they will need to practice for their entire career #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis Although the focus of this #PhysioTalk is pre-registration curricula, this cannot be considered in isolation from post-registration education.The main weakness currently is not pre-reg curricula but lack of formalised post-registration and postgraduate education. |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @JanetThomas47 @bendotellis @MartynWyres @physiotalk I also have a very real problem with the 'core' areas... I'll bite my tongue for now :) #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB that it is not black and white..there is a lot of grey which is actually fun to unravel #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Or how do we identify what they need to know #physiotalk. We are planning for a future we may not imagine as yet @ekstokes @JHaleATX @bendotellis @JeremyLewisPT @LaurafinucaneB |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q2. Communication skills, conflict management skills, networking skills #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes @MartynWyres @physiotalk @StehartleyPT Agreed. It is important for regulators to understand the landscape. #physiotalk |
 | Chris mercer @Mercephysio @physiotalk Sorry-Chris joining late from sunny south coast Uk #physiotalk |
| Barbara Sanders @BarbSanders agree but so many students not ready for grey yet - they need B&W foundation. Perhaps more integrated/early clinical education/experiences to demonstrate that people as patients/clients are not B&W - regardless of age...….#physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX A2: graduates of the future need to know how to think, learn, reflect and adapt to an evolving health care landscape that will be shaped by innovations in technology (digital health, automation, etc) #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk exactly my point! #physiotalk |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #physiotalk Q2 interpretation of ever developing research base, evidence informed practices and limitations |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q2. You don't always have to be perfect and know the answer right off the top. #lifelonglearning #PhysioTalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @ekstokes @physiotalk First contact positions Private practice Shared/blended roles and skills in MDT Mentoring students #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX yes! #physiotalk |
 | amanda deaves @ADeaves @McCreesh_Karen @physiotalk I agree This definitely needs to be in the curriculum #physiotalk Along with enhanced communication skills - the power of words both positive and negative Understanding the patient via their narrative |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes That healthcare appears to always be in a state of flux. That they need to figure our when to ride it out, and when to take advantage. That even 10 years down the line, there may be opportunities presented that they never imagined possible. #physiotalk |
| Marjorie Gingras fellow pht @MarjorieGingras Bringing an holistic/global vision of all the "boxes" of knowledge we teach them in specific courses #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @bendotellis: |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen RT @McCreesh_Karen: |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio What @JeremyLewisPT said! Where they fit (everywhere) within the healthcare system and beyond. Resiliency. Importance of community not competition. #PhysioTalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen RT @JeremyLewisPT: |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Agree that these wider skills of how to be a modern healthcare professional are super important. Flexible and resilient professionals need to be taught these skills #physiotalk |
| Joe Curtin @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk Graduates need to know who can care for them, especially during placements, assignment deadlines and when starting as a Staff Grade/Band 5/ Junior Physio. Resilience, Positive Mental Health and of course a good chat/reflection with a friend, all key to mental health #physiotalk |
 | Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Forgot the #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q2. How to evolve, how not to fear change, how to have the difficult conversations, how to be ok with uncertainty and contrasting views #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk The sheer breadth and depth of the profession is mind-boggling. Take your time, and sample as much as you want. You never know what mind end-up as your chosen path. #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @MartynWyres @J0Physio @physiotalk @StehartleyPT this is key for me , if we want them to understand complexity they need to be exposed to complexity #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @physiotalk Lifelong learning. Graduation is only the first step in a journey of life long learning. Never stop exploring physiotherapy, never stop enquiring and learning and you will always have a fascinating and rewarding career #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @bendotellis @ellena_farrow @physiotalk Scotland has a joined up approach and every board hosts a day a year. @QMUPhysio runs an online course as well. Educating the educators is vital! #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Q2: need to learn how to communicate using SoMe #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @physiotalk You can learn alot on Twitter! #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis At the end of a 5 year medical degree, newly qualified Drs are regarded as 'trainees' with all doing another 10 years education. Yet in physio there is a prevailing assumption that all education will be packed into a 2-4 year 'pre-reg' degree #physiotalk. |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @IanTyrrell5 @BarbSanders Does teaching the 'B&W' cause more problems when they are then faced with a 'shades of grey' reality? #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk A2. Who is their population, what are their health needs, and what tools are required to meet those needs? Firstly from a proactive/preventative aspect then attending the end result. #physiotalk |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Seeing the bigger picture is so key and having an understanding of where and how physio fits in and can influence the wider health agenda #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX @jwhittak_physio Yes, we are messy and complex. I think developing practitioners that promote self-management and realize there isn't always a 'fix' for their client -- how do we join them on their journey and empower change #physiotalk |
| amanda deaves @ADeaves @MariaLouisaBusu @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk #physiotalk I don’t disagree but this is potentially a complex area for an undergrad student to get a handle on |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk I really like this emphasis on mental health #PhysioTalk not focussed on enough in my opinion...building resilience is critical. Too many physios and GPs (and FCP will see some physios moving into GP settings) burn-out |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX @bendotellis this is great! #physiotalk |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen @bendotellis @MartynWyres @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk yes... wld argue that there's a need 2 look beyond current labels at the behaviours/knowledge/skills that underpin our practice? Making the familiar strange might help us define what's shared/distinct (& why) 4 practice with different body systems/populations? #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes @bendotellis @StehartleyPT @physiotalk oops typo - yes 1000. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @JHaleATX Key message it is not the job of a PT to 'fix' anything or anyone it is to witness and if we are lucky nurture an individuals evolution. #PhysioTalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @mcveigh_joe You are kidding right? #PhysioTalk have I totally taken the bait? |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @Em_Garratt @physiosoc @ClionaMcR @MartynWyres @ekstokes @physiotalk @StehartleyPT Flexibility. Adaptability. Patience. Clinical credibility. #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @physiotalk: |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @ekstokes @MelroseStewart1 patients, patients family members, other healthcare team members, third party payers #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Graduation is just the start of the journey! #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk More grey. #physiotalk https://t.co/KMXJQHNpXE |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Accepting uncertainty is essential #Physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB interweave aspects of the curriculum more if it's possible because it represents the reality in practice . #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @MariaLouisaBusu @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Absolutely! If you don't understand the numbers game, you can't play! #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q3. We need to give students more time and practice in developing communication and critical thinking EPB skills. Practice, practice, practice #PhysioTalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @physiotalk Increase the multi profession learning #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen We should change the way in which we interact with stakeholders #physiotalk @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @TPMPodcast @physiotalk @ekstokes We need to new approaches to answer critical questions |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 Base learning on people and not conditions. It's what the real world of professional life is all about #physiotalk |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk rather than teaching in silos the core papers, a more holistic approach covering the core practices applied to all eg. Conditions and groups |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk Develop knowledge and skills in Quality Improvement methodology. #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk If our graduates do not have a strong ethical understanding they will be lost when they approach difficult issues #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q3. We need to let them fail and help them to learn from their failures, not just give low marks. Otherwise the focus is marks and not learning #physiotalk |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @physiotalk More interprofessional learning and more involvement of patients in the delivery of courses. Their voice and stories are so valuable #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @JanetThomas47: Base learning on people and not conditions. It's what the real world of professional life is all about #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Too often there is more of the same, self interest and inward looking navel gazing #physiotalk @MelroseStewart1 @ekstokes @bendotellis @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen In Norway we are asking whether a 3 yr Bachelor is too short. Should PT curricula change to a 5 yr program? @OsloMet @GroJamtvedt @hegebentzen @DahlMichelsenT #PhysioTalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q3. we need instructors that are evidence-based clinicians, that can critically appraise research and help students to understand how to apply evidence when the fit is not always right #physiotalk |
| amanda deaves @ADeaves A2 #PhysioTalk Don’t be afraid to change your mind, to constantly ask ‘why’ Engage with all aspects of healthcare, empower and understanding how to motivate the patient to self manage |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @Daleyfurter: |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton YES!!!! #physiotalk |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen @ekstokes @bendotellis @MartynWyres @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk @theCSP's physiotherapy framework is an eg of that thinking - underpinned by critical synthesis of (for eg) literature (eg definitions of PT, nature of expertise), expectations of PT practice (regulatory/prof standards+job descriptions) & lived experiences of practice #physiotalk |
| John Xerri de Caro @johnxdc @jwhittak_physio This is a very interesting comment that came out also in the conclusions of my research. How does this reconcile with shorter degrees (3 yrs) we see a lot of in EUR beats me! #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @ekstokes @MartynWyres @physiotalk I am fortunate to work with a multidisciplinary pain management team, my students get to spend time observing the OT and psychologist at work and will join the team in meetings with our pain physicians. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @physiotalk I think both. I don't see the two as different. Learning occurs in both environments and needs to be integrated between the two #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX @Daleyfurter @physiotalk Yes! And an understanding of who we are, what our role is, what we have to offer, what we can't offer. That message (our identity) should be shared as a profession #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Patients, fellow healthcare professionals, industry, new and mid career PT graduates, economists, commissioners #physiotalk @ekstokes @gerardgreenephy @MariaLouisaBusu @bendotellis |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton End the unwavering focus on the 'core' areas. #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis Less than 0.1% of the profession progress into clinical-academic roles. https://t.co/v5IsniDWx0 Curricula should attract and motivate individuals to progress career paths into research, education and leadership roles beyond clinical roles #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @physiotalk #physiotalk Mentorship between students-start this early, more problem-based learning and switched classrooms, more patients involved in course delivery, more business development skills focus, more willingness of educators 2b challenged, more incentives for clinical educators |
 | IPTOP @IPTOPphysio @JeremyLewisPT @ekstokes @physiotalk Totally agree. Working with older people this is a must in all cases! #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Do we have valid and high quality evidence for such changes? What about blended learning flipped classroom? Pbl requires ++ Resources #PhysioTalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @MelroseStewart1: |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX noted :) #physiotalk |
 | John Hurley @johnhurleyruan @johnxdc @jwhittak_physio Teach students how to critically appraise their own and others (constructively) interaction skills so that they can continue to improve these after they graduate #physiotalk |
| Joe Curtin @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk Can curricula be moulded to foster leadership within our profession? With such a huge emphasis at the moment being focused on leadership skills in current professionals, should we be promoting and laying the foundations in the university setting? #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk A3. Big picture stuff. Population health, health economics, ethics, communication, leadership skills, and let's not forget advocacy and marketing. #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @mcveigh_joe What makes you think having an MSc/phd maxes our development as a profession? #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Essentially, practicing physiotherapy in the real world. Same situtation for MSK OP - short slots, pressures to reduce waiting lists, possible rationing of services. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q3. Delivery - we need unique partnerships between academia and uni's. We need a model in which students are learning from both sides simultaneously #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis I'm an expert novice ... or profess to be !! #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @TPMPodcast @physiotalk I cant let that go past - any comments around a less strict exam rubric? When I qualified we had to get 60% to pass.... Now its 40% for most degrees. Less than this? #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes First, I'd need to understand why they do want it. #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @MelroseStewart1 @NinaRydOlsen but we deal with diagnostic uncertainty everyday and would be good to prepare for that because its not all negative , it depends on how they manage the uncertainty themselves and prepare patients to do so I think #physiotalk |
 | Áine @Aine_T @physiotalk More varied placement opportunities inc exposure to quality research & MDT earlier w/ focus on the soft skills for pt care, def more S&C approach to exercise pres away from x10x3, exposure to best practice & critical thinking from day one 👍 #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio sorry unique partnerships between clinics / hospitals etc. and academia! #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk A3. Let's not forget technology and telehealth and the digital medium to empower, persuade, and personalise healthcare #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Yes, use digital information, gathering and interpreting, critique rather than rote learning #physiotalk @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT @bendotellis |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @mcveigh_joe @ClaireSweetman We are on the same page Joe! I think we have made enormous strides in raising the academic profile and have some great academic role models #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis RT @Prof_IeuanEllis: @ekstokes @JHaleATX @JeremyLewisPT Physiotherapy curricula must prepare professionals for roles which embrace and enhance the opportunities of #AI and #robotics to transform #wellness, #Health and #socialcare. https://t.co/q0ihiiezzJ #Industry40 #DigitalHealth #PhysioTalk @physiotalk https://t.co/xEyeUH3pI6 |
| John Hurley @johnhurleyruan RT @DerekGriffin86: |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk I agree, this is going to require unique relationships between clinicians, academic institutions so that students can learn from patients, clinicians and academics simultaneously #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX I think the evidence would support the idea of early mentorship -- great point. We have to model what we hope for and capitalize on the strengths of these incredible students #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen In @OsloMet they (student together with teachers) run a physio outpatient clinic @GroJamtvedt @hegebentzen (we have examples from nursing where students do this) #Physiotalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @physiotalk Need to move away from 1:1 mentorship on placement and allow students to learn together. #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen You an set a pass rate wherever you like, it is the criteria to meet it that is important #physiotalk @TPMPodcast @bendotellis @MelroseStewart1 @ekstokes |
 | Unnur Pétursdóttir @UnnurPeters Hello from Iceland. Joining #physiotalk way to late, trying to glance through Q&A. My view: Educating future PTs for future patients, i.e. lot of elderly and lot of NCD patients. The problem: Most want to be sport PTs. @JHaleATX @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @bendotellis @JeremyLewisPT @Daleyfurter @Em_Garratt @ellena_farrow @physiotalk Yeah, a definition here would be useful #Physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton Nothing!!! No one cares!!! As long as you have qualified, the interview process will determine if you are the person the employ wants, and the then actual journey starts! #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio This !! Nothing better than an educator that is passionate about what they do. We can come up with the most amazing curriculum but it is delivered flat it will fail to spark joy! #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @paulawoods5 @physiotalk love that! sometimes we come round in a full circle but the journey is important #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen RT @paulawoods5: |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Flipped learning for any topic .. I teach EBP using team based learning @ekstokes #PhysioTalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @ekstokes @MartynWyres @physiotalk #cantkeepup #physiotalk 😂 |
| IPTOP @IPTOPphysio @UnnurPeters @gerardgreenephy @JHaleATX @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT Well we'll just have to show them that working with older people is grappling with complex decision making and challenges clinical reasoning in a daily basis. Its the most satisfying place to work! #physiotalk |
| Unnur Pétursdóttir @UnnurPeters @winberg_ @ekstokes @StefanJutterdal @NinaRydOlsen Not in practice yet in Iceland but has been considered #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk We certainly need to get our students excited about areas other than MSK. We need more neuro, cardiopul, geriatic physios. Which means more inspiring, quality teachers in these areas! #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX A3 I am going to put my public health hat on and say we have to understand health from a population standpoint; what impact can we have in our schools? communities? What are the social determinants that impact health outcomes? How do we look at big data to guide us? #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @physiotalk: |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton End the unwavering focus on the 'core' areas. #physiotalk |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen @physiotalk need to nurture critical thinking+creativity & offer scaffolded learning opps that develop capacity 2 live/thrive in uncertainty May need shift in pedagogies e.g. emphasis on peer/service user & interprofessional learning, flipped classrooms & use of tech 2 connect? #physiotalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @PaulaDimarco1 @ekstokes @physiotalk We are working towards it and already doing it yes, we need more and more @CovUniSim #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @physiotalk Oh...and more use of clinicians in physio education who are not necessarily in an academic post #physiotalk |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @JeremyLewisPT @DerekGriffin86 @physiotalk They’re well hard! #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @_JoeMiddleton I think your message is coming through! :) #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @MelroseStewart1 @NinaRydOlsen So true Laura. I think sometime students or young career PT's are so worried about failing they paralyze themselves, or worse just head down a path just to have a path. They, we all need to learn to sit and be ok in uncertainty. #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Use teaching methods that are evidence based and teach content that is evidence-based #physiotalk |
| amanda deaves @ADeaves A2 #PhysioTalk Resilience to manage self, the ever changing work environment, patients and ensure protection from burnout |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX if soft = powerful and impactful, then yes! ;) #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen And how do we ensure that those ambitious passionate graduates still feel like that mid career #physiotalk @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @TPMPodcast @bendotellis . May seem like a distraction but they are the future |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @MarjorieGingras @physiotalk Excellent, but you are definitely in the minority especially around the midlands area #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @jillfromrhyl It's not in Scotland :) #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @bendotellis @TPMPodcast @JanetThomas47 @physiotalk I love 'grey' #physiotalk definitely need a shift and its coming I think |
| Unnur Pétursdóttir @UnnurPeters @iptopwcpt @gerardgreenephy @JHaleATX @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT True ... and now we are getting into the age that older people have previous experience of sports and the gym, so beeing sport PTs for older people may be the answer for some #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q4. Teach students how to think, give them the skill to find answers to questions that we/they have not even come up with yet. #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX I always tell our students, 'grey' is the new black #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen RT @jwhittak_physio: @LaurafinucaneB @JeremyLewisPT @MelroseStewart1 @NinaRydOlsen So true Laura. I think sometime students or young career PT's are so worried about failing they paralyze themselves, or worse just head down a path just to have a path. They, we all need to learn to sit and be ok in uncertainty. #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @TPMPodcast @physiotalk Ahhh - I see. Yes, we have shared but short rubric - its new but I like it! #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @JHaleATX As a regulator one of the biggest issues we have are related to communication. So it this is a soft skill it is understated as it is the key to effectively delivering a message.... a key ingredient of getting a result! #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @Em_Garratt @gerardgreenephy @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk my neurology rotation amongst others prepared me for the future of co morbidities , this is where we are heading #physiotalk |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk I use 2 to 1 as much as possible, more empowering, shifts the balance between supervisor and students |
 | Darragh Mc Gee @DMGPhysio @physiotalk Introduce the use of a professional social media from day one? #PhysioTalk |
| Suzanne Brown 💙 @suzeeyre @physiotalk As tough as it may be on clinical educators (or the lack of placement areas), I strongly feel that our students should get longer placements. Our nursing and OT colleagues have 8 & 6 week placements as a MINIMUM, where the physios longest is 6 weeks! #physiotalk |
| amanda deaves @ADeaves @MartynWyres @physiotalk #PhysioTalk Agree but there is resistant to change this model Educators report it either works very well or is very difficult to manage for a number of reasons |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q4. Be honest with students, stop trying to simply things so far just so it is easier to teach. Let them know it is messy. Share your failures and what you learned. #PhysioTalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @Hartey_PT @physiotalk Would love to know how you work this...... #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @LaurafinucaneB: @MelroseStewart1 @NinaRydOlsen but we deal with diagnostic uncertainty everyday and would be good to prepare for that because its not all negative , it depends on how they manage the uncertainty themselves and prepare patients to do so I think #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman @physiotalk Physios need to graduate wanting to be clinical educators....no future if we can’t train any! #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX Embrace the mess, y'all. #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes Introduce a greater breadth of clinical content. Obviously, we still need to cover MSK, neuro, and respiratory, but maybe include more focus on mental health or ageing. Avoid covering these areas in isolation - real people don't work like that. #physiotalk |
| Martyn Wyres @MartynWyres @ADeaves @physiotalk There is a lot of resistance as it is perceived as having double the work #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @ClaireSweetman: @physiotalk Physios need to graduate wanting to be clinical educators....no future if we can’t train any! #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Does it need rewriting, if statutory and professional guidelines allow flexibility. An evidenced based approach to curriculum design and delivery #physiotalk @MelroseStewart1 @LaurafinucaneB @TPMPodcast @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @ekstokes |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @jwhittak_physio learn to deal with uncertainty in a certain way...give them the tools #physiotalk |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk Our programmes will only be future proofed if they meet the need and are delivered in a cost effective manner. Academic inflation may strangle this profession. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Is it really about the length or amount of clinical placement? or is it rather the quality? Is there time to debrief, reflect on what has happened, go and search the literature, and devise other options. Have a good long talk vs. just run off to the next patient? #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis Focus - more on learning less on teaching - more problem solving less knowledge aquisition - more on population and public health and wellness - fully embrace AI and robotics #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk academic inflation? #physiotalk |
| Laura Finucane @LaurafinucaneB @MariaLouisaBusu @JHaleATX lots of grey in there!! #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ClionaMcR I was, and still am, very proud to have achieved a first class honours degree. The reality is, it didn't actually make me a better physio. #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX A4: I think we have to develop innovative thinkers -- technology is going to change the face of healthcare. We can't sit back and watch, we have to be part of that change. How do we position ourselves so that we are relevant in the future? #physiotalk |
| Joe Curtin @JoeCurtinIE @physiotalk Continue with a combined input of recently graduates, current researchers, and clinical experts to contribute regularly to the course. Teaching students to be critical learners and appraisers will aid to future proof and ensure the cycle of appraisal continues. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Q4. Future proof - we need to be aware of the world around us. What are the types of conditions we are going to be treating in the future. What is our role in managing these conditions now, what do we need to be better. How do we as PT add value, be indispensable #PhysioTalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Yes, let’s be radical and inclusive #physiotalk @physiotalk @bendotellis @JanetThomas47 |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen @physiotalk A4 - an interesting challenge - esp when it comes to offering students experience of 'new' practice which is often still evolving. Need to ensure that new models of service delivery incorporate capacity 4 practice-based learning as part of service contract? #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @JoeCurtinIE: @physiotalk Continue with a combined input of recently graduates, current researchers, and clinical experts to contribute regularly to the course. Teaching students to be critical learners and appraisers will aid to future proof and ensure the cycle of appraisal continues. #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @slun1 You'll have to explain what 'an identifying professional structure' is first! #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @physiotalk: |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX Dear United States of America, are you listening??? #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @JHaleATX: A4: A4: I think we have to develop innovative thinkers -- technology is going to change the face of healthcare. We can't sit back and watch, we have to be part of that change. How do we position ourselves so that we are relevant in the future? #physiotalk |
| Suzanne Brown 💙 @suzeeyre @jwhittak_physio I don’t feel that I can assess students on whether they’re at the “expected level for registration” (as our closest uni’s paperwork requests) based on 4/6 week placements. In a perfect world clinicians wouldn’t feel the pressure of having to run to the next patient #physiotalk |
| Eily @eilymcc @paulawoods5 @physiotalk Yes! That the student supervisor can learn from the student. Love asking students what the recent research is telling us about X Y and Z. In case I have missed any important emerging research! #physiotalk |
 | Leigh Murray @lemurrPT Need to know, nice to know, nuts to know. Academic bloat is a problem as well as the interpretation of what entry-level training should be. As a profession we haven’t come to a consensus on what it is. We continue to add “nice for students to have more of _________” #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @_lewadam @physiotalk I might have to argue against that one I'm afraid - need a well balanced profile overall. Specialise once graduated... #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton RT @bendotellis: |
| Chris mercer @Mercephysio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Building resilience and acceptance of risk - embracing uncertainty and life in the “grey zone” - these skills have lifelong value and encourage curiosity and inquiry which are the bedrocks of safe and innovative practice #physiotalk |
| Unnur Pétursdóttir @UnnurPeters Don’t forget to teach that “Mental health is every PTs business” @ICPPMH2018 #physiotalk All patients have mental status of some sort that needs to be taken into consideration. @JHaleATX |
| John Xerri de Caro @johnxdc @MariaLouisaBusu @mcveigh_joe @slun1 ommi ma .. #physiotalk |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio RT @mcveigh_joe: |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @ekstokes @physiotalk We struggle to get students which represent our society yet we keep increasing the length and cost of our entry to practice courses. Is this necessary? Is a Bachelor graduate 'really' different to the higher qualifications? Do they respond to the public need better? #physiotalk |
 | Eric Robertson @EricRobertson RT @BarbSanders: agree but so many students not ready for grey yet - they need B&W foundation. Perhaps more integrated/early clinical education/experiences to demonstrate that people as patients/clients are not B&W - regardless of age...….#physiotalk |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen RT @Mercephysio: @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Building resilience and acceptance of risk - embracing uncertainty and life in the “grey zone” - these skills have lifelong value and encourage curiosity and inquiry which are the bedrocks of safe and innovative practice #physiotalk |
| Marjorie Gingras fellow pht @MarjorieGingras Sherbrooke University Qc CAN uses case study to challenge the students with a global search and study by themself and then come back as a group of 8 with a PT tutor to discuss #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX RT @Mercephysio: @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Building resilience and acceptance of risk - embracing uncertainty and life in the “grey zone” - these skills have lifelong value and encourage curiosity and inquiry which are the bedrocks of safe and innovative practice #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @mariand84: |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis The only way of future proofing curricula is to prepare and equip new graduates with the skills to continue to learn new knowledge, to develop existing skills and acquire new skills and to adapt to completely to new roles #physiotalk #lifelonglearning |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton Can anyone explain this thing about regulatory bodies requiring physiotherapy curricula to cover the 'core' areas of MSK, neuro, and respiratory? #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX Jon is preaching and I'm here for the sermon! Yes to all of this! #physiotalk |
| Suzanne Brown 💙 @suzeeyre @Em_Garratt @physiotalk I’d be more inclined to keep the number of placements the same, increasing the length of the late 2nd year and 3rd year placements. The physio course in Scotland is 4 years...#physiotalk |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk programs to produce the generalist, the scopes of post grad practice need to expand to advanced and specialist, this should help to reduce pressure at the generalist level |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen RT @UnnurPeters: Don’t forget to teach that “Mental health is every PTs business” @ICPPMH2018 #physiotalk All patients have mental status of some sort that needs to be taken into consideration. @JHaleATX |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio Interesting point related to having students that are representative of society, or at a bare minimum open and compassionate to all. #PhysioTalk |
| gwyn owen @gwyn_owen RT @DonnaMWynne: |
| Jon Warren @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk Leadership must be appreciated, nurtured and encouraged more. #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman RT @bendotellis: |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @physiotalk @ekstokes @JHaleATX @JeremyLewisPT Thanks all. That was one heck of a chat!!! I couldn't even keep up with tweetdeck, so I pity anyone who tried on their phones!!! #physiotalk |
| Unnur Pétursdóttir @UnnurPeters @physiotalk Well, it was the short version for me tonight. Thank you all for interesting chat. Over and out from Iceland. #physiotalk |
 | J K @jellybeanstomp @physiotalk An obvious one but making sure that the modules are reviewed every year based on evidence/best practice so not teaching something just because "it's what we've always done" #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes Why is it a thing? Where can I read more about it? On the @The_HCPC website? #physiotalk |
| Ann Green @AnnSusanGreen Frantic, fabulous hour #physiotalk @physiotalk Thank you @ekstokes @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX and colleagues from Uk and #globalpt |
 | Brandon Poen @BrandonPoen RT @BarbSanders: agree but so many students not ready for grey yet - they need B&W foundation. Perhaps more integrated/early clinical education/experiences to demonstrate that people as patients/clients are not B&W - regardless of age...….#physiotalk |
| Suzanne Brown 💙 @suzeeyre @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk All the more reason for students to spend longer on placements #imonamission #lifelonglearning #physiotalk |
 | Tom Borgers @tborgers RT @McCreesh_Karen: |
| Anne Campbell @annescampbell #PhysioTalk thanks folks, checking out for some morning tea! |
| Dr. Jackie Whittaker @jwhittak_physio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Good point, have started having patients come into classrooms and the students love it. Involve more patients! #physiotalk |
| Áine @Aine_T @physiotalk Should be reflective of the current best evidence re pt care & self-mx across all areas of physio that keeps actively evolving, develop physios who want to keep learning... and that the SIJ only moves 1-4 degrees! #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen So we need a consensus? We did one on core competencies in EBP.. https://t.co/SzS5KCz2Ph similar work is needed for PT education #physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ClionaMcR Ahhh, I see what you mean. The business side of running physiotherapy programmes remains a mystery to me! #physiotalk |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX @jwhittak_physio @JeremyLewisPT @physiotalk Yes! A person's lived experience will always be more powerful than a powerpoint #physiotalk |
| Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis Back to the day job..... enjoyed the #physiotalk https://t.co/AWWO5bBpOz |
| Jennifer Hale @JHaleATX Thanks to everyone for joining in. Who needs caffeine when you have a tweetchat #physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Very interesting.. please share link if possible @lemurrPT #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @Louise_Brennan_ @Hartey_PT @_lewadam @physiotalk Yes - electives are great for this. Ours come at the end of the programme and you can do anything anywhere (more or less!) #physiotalk |
| Claire Horner @ClaireSweetman Really need to get on Tweetdeck...that was a hard but really interesting hour discussing physio education #physiotalk |
| Myriam @Myriam_O And that was my first tweetchat #physiotalk..very informative ..wide awake no need for caffeine @JHaleATX |
 | Christopher Ivey @civeypt @JonWarrenNZ @physiotalk Good point, Jon. Academic inflation Increases student loan debt (limits applicants) and stresses the economy ($1.4 trillion student loan debt in US). #Physiotalk |
| Nina Rydland Olsen @NinaRydOlsen Looking forward to reading this #Physiotalk |
| Joe Middleton @_JoeMiddleton @ekstokes @The_HCPC Can only see rather broad standards for education programmes. Looking at the standards of proficiency for physiotherapists, they do mention knowledge of neuro, MSK, and cardiovascular systems. #physiotalk |
| amanda deaves @ADeaves @AGreenCovPhysio @MelroseStewart1 @LaurafinucaneB @TPMPodcast @JeremyLewisPT @JHaleATX @ekstokes Agree, regular updating of programmes essential Not possible to be up to date and future proof always need to develop and keep up with the evidence #physiotalk |
| Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47 @Hartey_PT @TPMPodcast @physiotalk Yes - still need to meet a set standard #physiotalk |
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