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physiotalk @physiotalk
Welcome to tonights #physiotalk Its being guest hosted by @alliancehealthwfs Thank you for the suggestion for the chat
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And I'm sure I don't really need to remind you all BUT REMEMBER THE HASHTAG! #physiotalk That's #physiotalk Still not sure? Use #physiotalk in ALL your tweets
physiotalk @physiotalk
Can we start by saying hi, who you are and where you are tweeting from... #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
Hi I'm tweeting from Edinburgh and will be tweeting out the @physiotalk questions tonight! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk Good evening everyone! Glad to be here. Welcome any questions you may have! #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk From Stoke (not originally), physio in emergency medicine #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk I'm certainly not from Edinburgh originally either! #physiotalk
Dee @DeeThePhysio
Hi #physiotalk Dee, 3rd year student, just about to qualify (hopefully) and starting to apply for jobs/ get interviews
physiotalk @physiotalk
I'm hoping that lots of students are going to join in tonight - please say hi as we start! #physiotalk
David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
@physiotalk Hi all - 2nd year student studying in Nottingham. I will have tweetdeck in the background while doing some work. Super important subject tonight #physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@physiotalk Hi all! From the @RoyalFreeMSK department! Our First #physiotalk !!
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@RoyalFreeMSK Welcome! Hope you enjoy it and its the first of many... #physiotalk
ACPOPC @ACPOPC
#physiotalk starting now! https://t.co/Yd8Qs7QRpp
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RT @ACPOPC: #physiotalk starting now! https://t.co/Yd8Qs7QRpp
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@beardedPT @physiotalk Should be no if in that, more of a when! 😉#physiotalk
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Ok - lets get going with our first question of the night #physiotalk
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Q: How do I write my CV or statement of support? What to put in and what to leave out! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Welcome! Glad you are here 👍🏼 #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
I’m Emma, Clinical Lead Physio in the Stroke Rehab Service @OxfordHealthNHS ...intrigued to see the discussions on this topic! #Physiotalk
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@Em_Garratt @OxfordHealthNHS We're hoping to get some interactions between those preparing for interviews and those interviewing... #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk Read the person spec and job description and write how you meet each aspect. Use placement experiences to evidence. #physiotalk
David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Allright duck 😉 #physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@physiotalk I hate reading through CVs which have long lists of copy and pasted job descriptions that are irrelevant to the current role. Drives me crazy! Be succinct, keep to the point #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Check essential and desirable criteria - what do you meet and how can you evidence #physiotalk
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@stowe_emily How many pages (max) would you expect for a CV - just one? #physiotalk
Meesh @meeshr93
@physiotalk My first #physiotalk! Final year MSc physio student at Brighton Uni @BrightPhysios
physiotalk @physiotalk
@meeshr93 @BrightPhysios Welcome! #physiotalk
Caroline Slater @CarolinePhysio1
Hello all! I’m a second year student at UCLAN. Hoping for lots of tips tonight. #physiotalk
physiotalk @physiotalk
So - how many of you would put headings in your CV / statement of support that were linked to job spec? #physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@physiotalk Could cope with 2 if relevant info. Also, don't reduce text down to 9 point to get it into 1 page, recruiters aren't stupid and will see straight through it!! #physiotalk Always interested in what makes you different from the other applications
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@physiotalk Check essential and desirable criteria - do you meet it? Furthermore can you support this!! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@JanetThomas47 @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Absolutely. Best keep it short and sweet with things like MSK, Neuro being added. Most managers will know how the department operates so no need to go in to too much details! #physiotalk
physiotalk @physiotalk
@RoyalFreeMSK Definitely! Need to demonstrate how meet the criteria rather than just state that you do #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk In statement have never put headings (maybe that’s where I’ve been going wrong) but have tended to use examples of how I have met each portion of the job spec. #physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@physiotalk Also, remember that the text on your person spec/CV is all that I know about you. I can't assume anything. I will just tick your info off against person spec/JD. Advertised recently, essential criteria was car driver, only 2 applicants of 22 actually mentioned this #physiotalk
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@IanTyrrell5 Suggested here https://t.co/zOLlld0Nzw Do others think they would like this? #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk @stowe_emily Quantity depends on the quality. 1-2 pages of quality is fine but 1-2 pages of waffle you’re wasting your time! Use clear punchy language, no exceedingly long sentences or repetitive descriptors. Give clear and relevant examples and let these do the talking #Physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk It’s a good idea, especially when it comes to highlighting placement locations. Some managers like to see certain skills learnt from some hospitals, especially if it’s specialist! #physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Very simple but important point! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Can’t say I’ve ever seen headings used but if used appropriately can’t see why not #Physiotalk
physiotalk @physiotalk
A few tweets coming through without the hashtag - a reminder to include #physiotalk in all your tweets
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk 100% We do see quite a lot of blanket CVs being sent with generic terminology! #physiotalk
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@Em_Garratt @stowe_emily So - what would be waffle?! #physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@physiotalk @IanTyrrell5 If it makes it easier to find info I wouldn't mind. Can be difficult to fish through info if it's all mingled into a long statement. Certainly wouldn't put me off #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk Depends on what type of shortlisting software you use! In my last trust probably would have been helpful. Personally reading a personal statement I want to know why you want to work at a trust and what inspires you as a physio and what you’ve learned so far #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@RoyalFreeMSK @hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Tough balance though, as personal specs can be very repetitive with huge long lists of ‘character attributes’ which are difficult to demonstrate in any way other than a list!! #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Shortlisting software?! #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@Alliedhealthwfs @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk And cut and pasted with wrong location etc! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@JanetThomas47 @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Ha! #physiotalk
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Lets move on from CVs to the interview then.. Next question coming up #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk @stowe_emily Using the same example too many times, repetitive use of descriptors eg ‘highly motivated’ ‘passionate’ ‘enthusiastic’ etc, irrelevant info, lengthy life history! #Physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@JanetThomas47 @physiotalk We could see a percentage of how much of the desirable and essential traits they met. Was a few years ago so can’t remember the name of it. #physiotalk
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Q: How should I prepare for my interview? What are they going to ask! #physiotalk
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RT @Em_Garratt: @physiotalk @stowe_emily Using the same example too many times, repetitive use of descriptors eg ‘highly motivated’ ‘passio…
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RT @IanTyrrell5: @physiotalk Depends on what type of shortlisting software you use! In my last trust probably would have been helpful. Pers…
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@JanetThomas47 @Alliedhealthwfs @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk I work in a hospice, the number of people that send me CVs saying they are looking forward to working in a busy hospital is frightening 😱😤😂 #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@JanetThomas47 @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Shortlisting software = 🙋‍♀️ #Physiotalk 😂
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@stowe_emily @JanetThomas47 @Alliedhealthwfs @RoyalFreeMSK Lack of understanding - or just cut and pasted from a previous application? #physiotalk
Ieuan Ellis 🎓🏃🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🌍 @Prof_IeuanEllis
Interviewer: 'Where do you see yourself in 5 years time ?' #physiotalk 😁 https://t.co/WbR2v4BEKY
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@physiotalk Remember you need to say everything, otherwise the interviewers won’t know you know it. Don’t forget to say the basics #Physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@JanetThomas47 @Alliedhealthwfs @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Cut and pasted! No mention of palliative care interest at all!! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@stowe_emily @JanetThomas47 @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Yikes! #physiotalk
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RT @hannahmbarbour: @physiotalk Remember you need to say everything, otherwise the interviewers won’t know you know it. Don’t forget to say…
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk Learn about the trust. What do they excel at, what’s their vision, why should you be part of that. What are their values and behaviours that you will be expected to meet. What services do they provide and how can physio help these services #physiotalk
RunningPhysio @tomgoom
RT @Prof_IeuanEllis: Interviewer: 'Where do you see yourself in 5 years time ?' #physiotalk 😁 https://t.co/WbR2v4BEKY
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Think that's key for a new grad job - just get the basics covered then if necessary add to it! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk My bad! #physiotalk
Emily Stowe @stowe_emily
@physiotalk Remember the interview is supposed to be a process of getting to know you, not catching you out. #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk This is the beauty of the NHS jobs website. It’s an Aladdin’s cave of information. #physiotalk
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Poll coming up for tonights #physiotalk
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@physiotalk Prepare for clinical questions in each area the role will cover and don’t be afraid to admit your limitations and who you would turn to for support if you didn’t know #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk Look at trust core values, as a band 5 expect questions from each core area, have a couple of clinical examples which you know in detail and can use in your answers, don’t forget the mandatory training side of things e.g safeguarding, documentation, duty of candour #Physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@JanetThomas47 @hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Spot on. The managers know a good Physio when they see one. I would even go as far to say that personality is equally as important as the knowledge and skill! #physiotalk
ataullah hussaini @ataullahhussai1
@physiotalk your hands on courses. I mean the techniques you know very well #physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Remember to cover the basics! Then expand! #physiotalk
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What would be your focus of interview questions for new grads #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@stowe_emily @physiotalk Well said Emily! #physiotalk
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@Alliedhealthwfs @JanetThomas47 @hannahmbarbour See poll just tweeted out! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk Try to SMILE 😃 Be confident and do a superhero stance before you go into the interview to ‘power up’ 😂😂 (someone told me this and it actually does help!) #physiotalk
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Before we move to next question... What has been your most memorable interview question! #physiotalk
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@Alliedhealthwfs @hannahmbarbour Indeed! See https://t.co/I9UtfUXCzj https://t.co/zZi6yiA6ka for starters #physiotalk
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Remember to breath and ask to them to repeat the question if needed. Even write down key points of the question if it helps #physiotalk
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RT @hannahmbarbour: @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Remember to breath and ask to them to repeat the question if needed. Even write down key poin…
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@physiotalk Is preparing for questions such as discuss a time where you used problem solving skills? important? #physiotalk
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@Jolockyear1 Yes - clinical knowledge based or competency based questions Tell me when you.... #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk I’m going to abstain from this. Reason you can have the best clinical knowledge but be a pretty poor physio but you can also have a lack of knowledge but the potential for growth. It’s difficult to see in an interview and difficult to mark with hr requirements. #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk The worst we had heard is what are your weaknesses…always the killer! #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Mari from Sweden. Sorry for arriving late... #physiotalk
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@IanTyrrell5 Isn't that what makes interviewing such a difficult job?! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
RT @physiotalk: @Alliedhealthwfs @hannahmbarbour Indeed! See https://t.co/I9UtfUXCzj https://t.co/zZi6yiA6ka for starters #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk Scenario questions...remember the 4 steps: - listen to the problem/situation - take action yourself as able - seek senior support as required - document afterwards #Physiotalk
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RT @Em_Garratt: @physiotalk Scenario questions...remember the 4 steps: - listen to the problem/situation - take action yourself as able - s…
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@Jolockyear1 @physiotalk Yes having example ready will make you feel more at ease and increase your confidence and show your commitment to the role #physiotalk
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So - lets move on.. Not sure if this next question should have been before the ones about applying! #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk I think so. Sat on many band 5 interviews and thought I could work with this person, and the exact opposite. But often HR determined scoring systems doesn’t meet what a potential good physio is! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk @IanTyrrell5 That’s the trouble, it’s a skill within itself! #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Show interest in the area, show that you are eager to learn and that you want to stay updated with new research #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk Turn it into the positives! Highlight some of your limitations but explain the positive attributes you have which allow you to manage these limitations #Physiotalk
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Q: What type of job should I consider: permanent, temporary, locum? #physiotalk
Cath Edwards @cathedwards_1
RT @physiotalk: @Jolockyear1 Yes - clinical knowledge based or competency based questions Tell me when you.... #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@AWinch_Physio @physiotalk Really? Blimey! Did you know that it was going to be like this? #physiotalk
Lara | physio in UK @Larita_gc
RT @Em_Garratt: @physiotalk Scenario questions...remember the 4 steps: - listen to the problem/situation - take action yourself as able - s…
ataullah hussaini @ataullahhussai1
@physiotalk basics of physiotherapy. #physiotalk
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#physiotalk https://t.co/IZLmUjyHi0
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@physiotalk I wouldn’t start as a locum as a new grad as you won’t get as much support as a permanent member of staff but everyone’s circumstances differ #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Did the HR teams give any valid reasons after the interview. It’s a very important thing to get if (in the worst case scenario) you don’t get the post #physiotalk
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Any students lurking... What type of job are you looking for? #physiotalk
Cath Edwards @cathedwards_1
RT @physiotalk: @Alliedhealthwfs @hannahmbarbour Indeed! See https://t.co/I9UtfUXCzj https://t.co/zZi6yiA6ka for starters #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Permanent if possible. If you have permanent you will get more courses etc. the employer will invest in you #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk Sorry I’m late!!! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk It’s fine 👍🏼 #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk I’ll go back to when I qualified, I was just happy to get a job, took me 18 months and around 100 applications (no lie). But these days choose a job that suits you and your commitments. Permanent is never permanent, you can still move but security is key. #physiotalk
Jo Lockyear @JolockyearPT
@physiotalk Permanent, I hope to upgrade my band 3 post to 5 🤞🏼 #physiotalk
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@mariand84 And if there are no permanent posts available? #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk I wouldn’t start as a locum as a new grad - you need the structure and stability of a system which can support and develop you. Temporary contracts can work but have their limitations - depends on the role. I would look for permanent if possible #Physiotalk
David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
@physiotalk Now that's a question? 🤔 #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Wording question is so important- need to ensure you are ascertaining that clinical knowledge can be implemented effectively, and adapted etc #physiotalk
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio
@Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk Yes, there was a small sentence at the bottom of the email, although would have been easy to miss in the excitement of being offered an interview!! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@cathedwards_1 @physiotalk That’s the one! #physiotalk 👍
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk We, as an agency, have been working with several NHS trusts in offering a new graduate scheme. Admittedly, not every trust have the resources to cater, but it gives new grads a good idea on what speciality to go for after they graduate #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk Look carefully at JD and PS- it is these docs that we short list against. Don’t just repeat PS but provide examples. Tell us what you’ve done, sell yourself!! #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Em_Garratt @physiotalk If you are given info it’s there for a reason so comment on it- this will help to illustrate your clinical reasoning. THen answer the specific question #physiotalk
ataullah hussaini @ataullahhussai1
@physiotalk I think temporary is good. Because everyone can come to conclusion depending on his work. #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk Sorry for the confusion I sat on the interviewing side of the table and was asked to score someone 1-5 but tickboxes can lead to higher scores than wouldn’t necessarily be replicated in practice. #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Alliedhealthwfs @JanetThomas47 @hannahmbarbour @physiotalk You need to be able to communicate and put people at ease, if you can’t do that with fellow Physios then will you be able to do that with a pt? #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@CarylAPhysio @physiotalk @OBUPhysio Yes - it’s not always knowing the info but knowing where you could find it. And don’t forget you will not be working alone - it’s ok to say you would seek senior support!! (May well get marked down if this isn’t mentioned in certain questions) #Physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@physiotalk Temporary #physiotalk
Alex Winch @AWinch_Physio
@physiotalk For me definitely a broad rotation with opportunities ranging from acute inpatients to community rehab. I don't know where I want to end up so I would like to see as much as I can while I have the chance #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@meeshr93 @physiotalk Most trusts that have locums tend to offer them permanent opportunity especially too. Being a member of the team that knows all of the systems has the advantage #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk All! It’s competitive so sometimes some temp experience helps #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@Alliedhealthwfs @hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Are there options like Flying start outside of NHS Scotland? Pardon my ignorance... https://t.co/KfAZgp1NMH #physiotalk
Cath Edwards @cathedwards_1
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Deffo! Asking for help is a major strength #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@Jolockyear1 @physiotalk Good luck! Hopefully you receive some helpful advice from this chat 👍🏼 #physiotalk
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Onto our next linked question... #physiotalk
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Q: What else to consider with my first job? Specialities, rotational – where is the demand? #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Support is so important, and ongoing learning opportunities ie IST, peer review sessions etc. I agree as a locum@you wont have access to these #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@Esined1234 @physiotalk Yes, sadly. We look at the NHS jobs website constantly and they are very few and far between! #physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@physiotalk Make sure you all check out NHS jobs and follow our Twitter account @RoyalFreeMSK ........ we can let you all know when we have vacancies! #Physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk Oh and if you can’t get a job volunteer. I spent 18 months working in sports and that experience made me the clinician I am today (I’m not in musk funnily enough) #physiotalk
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Has anyone succeeded in getting applicants via twitter advertising? #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@CarylAPhysio @physiotalk Very true. Maybe the locum route will be better for you? #physiotalk
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RT @IanTyrrell5: @physiotalk Oh and if you can’t get a job volunteer. I spent 18 months working in sports and that experience made me the c…
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@emaroids1 @physiotalk Consider roles outside of the traditional rotational posts. Community rehab will give you experience in all key areas of physio but often not considered #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
RT @AWinch_Physio: @physiotalk For me definitely a broad rotation with opportunities ranging from acute inpatients to community rehab. I do…
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk For newly qualified staff rotational experience is so very important. Even when you specialise you use knowledge and skills from other areas ie on ITU need rehab, neuro knowledge etc. Core skills such as comms, ward mx also differ between areas #physiotalk
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@IanTyrrell5 So important - helps to work towards the developing towards job spec (even towards desirable as well) #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@AWinch_Physio @physiotalk Baaa, the small print #physiotalk
Hannah Barbour @hannahmbarbour
@physiotalk Consider roles outside of the traditional rotational posts. Community rehab will give you experience in all key areas of physio but often not considered #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@Alliedhealthwfs @Esined1234 @physiotalk Not sure that’s necessarily true for all areas...depends on geographical area and flexibility of candidates to potentially move location. Some geographical areas higher demand than others #Physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
RT @RoyalFreeMSK: @physiotalk Make sure you all check out NHS jobs and follow our Twitter account @RoyalFreeMSK ........ we can let you al…
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk I personally don’t agree with speciality rotations as a band 5. You need miles on the clock and experience in a number of areas to be well rounded. That’s my personal opinion though #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk I think it helps increase awareness but need to tag in relevant groups I.e @thecspstudents etc #physiotalk no remember not all trusts advertise on nhs jobs, if you want to work somewhere specifically sign up to trust specific alerts
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@Em_Garratt @Alliedhealthwfs @Esined1234 So - how many of you could move locations to secure a post? And if so - how far! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk This is a good point...lots of trusts have career twitter pages... @OHFTCareers 😉 #Physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
RT @emaroids1: @physiotalk For newly qualified staff rotational experience is so very important. Even when you specialise you use knowledge…
Dee @DeeThePhysio
@physiotalk As a (slightly) mature student I'm currently trying to weigh up the pros and cons of standard rotation in an acute trust, with some great speciality options vs speciality rotation in community paeds, the area I currently believe I want to enter... #physiotalk
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@IanTyrrell5 All rotations or just some? What would you regard as a speciality??? #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Agree #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@CarylAPhysio @physiotalk That’s the beauty of the rotations @CarylAPhysio 👍 #physiotalk
Niamh Murphy @niamhphysio
RT @Em_Garratt: @physiotalk Scenario questions...remember the 4 steps: - listen to the problem/situation - take action yourself as able - s…
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Very true Hannah. We see community rehab posts cover lots of areas within Physio #physiotalk Just make sure that you are a car owner driver though if living in rural or suburbs! #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Esined1234 @physiotalk There aren’t many Paeds jobs at band 5 they often start at band 6. V competitive so would benefit of learning general skills b4 specialising. I used adult knowledge in words everyday #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@meeshr93 @physiotalk Sport is ok, but I wouldn’t mention you want to be a professional sports physio (did this once didn’t go down well) but if you’ve learned from your sports experience in terms of patient outcomes,reflective practice, professional development that’s different #physiotalk
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@Esined1234 Anyone have thoughts on this? How many changed their minds about area of speciality once they had experienced somewhere different? #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
Definitely! Huge value in community based rotations @OxfordHealthNHS has a great rotation for Band 5 PTs (community, paeds, stroke rehab, respiratory) #Physiotalk https://t.co/o4EgnOK5bT
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Seeing a few tweets without hashtag - your final reminder! #physiotalk in all your tweets!
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk @Esined1234 I think it’s useful to gain as much experience as possible. When rotating I was made aware of clinical areas that PT’a contributed to that I didn’t realise exist!! #physiotalk
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@IanTyrrell5 @meeshr93 True for all experience - show how can apply to a variety of roles? #physiotalk
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RT @emaroids1: @physiotalk @Esined1234 I think it’s useful to gain as much experience as possible. When rotating I was made aware of clinic…
Caryl Hunter @CarylAPhysio
@Em_Garratt @physiotalk Plus even those areas that you don't like as much, you know you are only there for a limited time. Although I have a feeling it will probably end up being predominantly neuro or resp based for me. #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk In my job in emergency medicine I need Msk, neuro, respiratory, mental health, frailty, orthopaedic and just about whatever else they can throw at you! #specialistgenralist so I’d argue a wide variety #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@emaroids1 @Esined1234 @physiotalk Yes, something like pulmonary rehab, Paeds and some types of Neuro do tend to require a lot of miles within the sector. #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Not sure I agree - with the right supportive team and structure speciality roles can be great for new grads and inspire them into those areas in the future! #Physiotalk
Caroline Slater @CarolinePhysio1
@physiotalk I’m interested in a permanent B5 rotation in my local trust. Many Physios I speak to say they learnt the most from their rotations and would highly recommend doing rotations #Physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk @IanTyrrell5 @meeshr93 Yes! #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@physiotalk @meeshr93 Doesn’t even have to be physio related, it’s just recognising the characteristics of bein a good physio! #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@CarylAPhysio @Em_Garratt @physiotalk Resp all the way obviously 😉#physiotalk @TheACPRC
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@CarylAPhysio @physiotalk *cough* #neurorules *cough* #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@emaroids1 @physiotalk @thecspstudents Yes. We are actually seeing a few more NHS trusts going down the twitter and LinkedIn routes. Some managers even use their personal Facebook accounts as a sounding board, which is I think is great #physiotalk
Caryl Hunter @CarylAPhysio
@CarolinePhysio1 @physiotalk So true! Would agree with this - would say it is probably the most consistent piece of advice I have heard across physio. #physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@CarylAPhysio @Em_Garratt @physiotalk @emaroids1 Ahem - both wrong! Working with older people the best! #physiotalk
Sara Bolton 🌈💙 @southernscampi
@hannahmbarbour @emaroids1 @physiotalk Hear hear! If you want to work in the most exciting emerging healthcare roles #communitycare #physiotalk @OxfordHealthNHS @OHFTCareers
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@meeshr93 @physiotalk @Alliedhealthwfs @Esined1234 Not necessarily - it’s your personal choice to relocate so won’t add anything to the decision making by the panel. You could clarify that you are happy to relocate but I think they would assume that on the basis you have come for interview! #Physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Em_Garratt @CarylAPhysio @physiotalk Did you realise you had 2 resp components in your ‘neuro’ tweet?!?! 😂🤣 #physiotalk #everyonelovesphlegm
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@emaroids1 @physiotalk @Esined1234 We have heard that OTs and Physios work pretty much in unison in certain areas #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@Em_Garratt @physiotalk For some it would be, but I think you just limit someone’s ability to cope with the complex of one condition alongside another, I.e respiratory and neuro, msk and frailty. Developing skills across many areas not just one makes a better clinician imo #physiotalk
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David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
On the other hand, I have had discussions with several students about going into B5 static MSK roles and even some in the private sector? - To balance out the discussions on rotations #physiotalk
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Q: What about locum or bank posts – are they an option for me? What do I need to have ready for that type of post? #physiotalk
Lara | physio in UK @Larita_gc
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk @Esined1234 MDT working so important, roles complement each other for sure #physiotalk
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@beardedPT Any one have comments on this? (Thank you for the balance!) #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@Larita_gc @physiotalk No I don’t mean you shouldn’t work in specialities, you shouldn’t just work in one. You should work in lots of different specialities to enhance development. #physiotalk
Dee @DeeThePhysio
@Alliedhealthwfs @emaroids1 @physiotalk Agreed, rotations are important to get wider experience, but if they are there for the taking (for newly qualified physios) then there must be some benefit in it? Has anyone gone straight into a 'specialist' post that could comment on benefits of doing so? #physiotalk
Mari @mariand84
@emaroids1 @physiotalk @Esined1234 Agree with this one #physiotalk One of my first jobs was at a hospital where I got to work in different wards, very good. I learned which area was for me and which was not
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RT @Esined1234: @Alliedhealthwfs @emaroids1 @physiotalk Agreed, rotations are important to get wider experience, but if they are there for…
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk But people don’t have conditions in isolation - many have multiple co-morbidities or multifactorial presentations which interplay and learning how to apply skills from different areas is such a useful opportunity? #Physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@physiotalk @beardedPT We just need to ensure there is an appropriate teaching and support system in place, and that the lack of rotational experience into different clinical areas does not impact effectiveness in chosen clinics area #physiotalk
Nick Flanagan @PuppyFlanagan
@physiotalk As a locum/bank worker, do you miss out on the CPD/education normally seen within a newly qualified role like rotational band 5 etc? Or are there other opportunities? #physiotalk
Lara | physio in UK @Larita_gc
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Oh I see! Misunderstood! Then completely agree, that variety makes you better physio later on, regardless of what you specialise on. Sorry for the confusion. #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@Em_Garratt @Esined1234 @physiotalk We tend to see the main cities have the most vacancies for both locum and permanent posts. It’s all dependant on the therapists personal circumstances. Plus some hospitals do not offer accommodation, which is another factor to think about #Physiotalk
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@Alliedhealthwfs @Em_Garratt @Esined1234 @physiotalk Think a lots of hospitals don't have much accommodation nowadays? #physiotalk
Caroline Slater @CarolinePhysio1
@physiotalk @beardedPT I really like MSK and static B5 roles are coming up more in my local trust. I would most likely apply but I wouldn’t be disappointed if I didn’t get it and went on to rotations instead. It’s all learning! #Physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
RT @southernscampi: @hannahmbarbour @emaroids1 @physiotalk Hear hear! If you want to work in the most exciting emerging healthcare roles #c…
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@Esined1234 @Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk Unfortunately some roles may be static at band 5 due to cost! Luckily I’ve never worked anywhere that this has been the case. #physiotalk
David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
@physiotalk If my career goes a certain way I may consider these options. However, I feel I will miss out on the "rotations" support/learning #physiotalk
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That's the hour up! Thanks to @alliedhealthwfs for guest hosting tonights chat! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk Hi Nick, all good agencies (if you go locum) offer CPD courses, or offer financial assistance in doing it. #Physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@Em_Garratt @physiotalk Again sorry my point may have been misunderstood or I may have misunderstood the question. I don’t think people should have speciality rotations I.e msk, neuro, resp. They should have to have rotations in all areas. #physiotalk
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@Alliedhealthwfs Feel free to keep on chatting - and we will collate transcript in a while! #physiotalk
Caryl Hunter @CarylAPhysio
@Em_Garratt @IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Agree with Emma here. Only halfway through my 1st ward based placement on AGM - co-morbidities & their presentations are so key to all physio, no matter which skills you are using. #physiotalk
ema swingwood @emaroids1
@puppyflanagan @physiotalk If we have locum in #NHS they are there to see pts and do not access IST’s etc. Lots of other opportunities but funding may be difficult. #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@physiotalk Thank you all so so much. I will carry on replying to all the messages that I missed! #Physiotalk
Nick Flanagan @PuppyFlanagan
@beardedPT @physiotalk Yeah that’s my concern too @beardedPT It’s good to know agency’s support CPD, what are the well known physio agencies? #physiotalk
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Our next chat - something totally different - sleep! (Isn't that the beauty of #physiotalk)
Ben Ellis @bendotellis
@physiotalk I would strongly advise against going straight out of uni into a locum post. Bank can work if it gets a foothold into a specific trust #physiotalk
Lara | physio in UK @Larita_gc
@puppyflanagan @physiotalk When I started in a bank post I talked with my lead about CPD (ie: in service training) and he was keen to let me attend and participate on other things in the trust to show they promoted development regardless and of course for staff retention. #physiotalk
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Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@JanetThomas47 @Em_Garratt @Esined1234 @physiotalk Not many sadly, some NHS trusts have outsourced their accommodation to agencies that manage it for them. #physiotalk But if working as a locum, we can offer some support with costs on that.
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@emaroids1 @Esined1234 @physiotalk That’s good going! 👍🏼 #Physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
@physiotalk @Alliedhealthwfs Thanks for Hosting! We will post vacancies on @RoyalFreeMSK and https://t.co/I7KQLEL35L So follow us for updates! #physiotalk
Dee @DeeThePhysio
@Alliedhealthwfs @physiotalk Thoughts about going through an agency to find rotational posts? I spoke to a number of agencies at the csp physio conference... #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@hipsterlife85 @physiotalk Great! Will be here to answer anything you might need to know #Physiotalk
Ben Ellis @bendotellis
@emaroids1 @Esined1234 @physiotalk Back in the day maybe, increasingly trusts struggling to recruit B6s in paeds and dropping to static B5s to plug gaps #physiotalk
Natalie Patterson @PhysioNatalie
@physiotalk Little late to the party but I swatted up on the trust and they asked me nothing on it. I had 5 scenario based qs including one on data protection. I knew the names of 2 of them so googled them to find their specialities #Physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@puppyflanagan @physiotalk As a locum you would be unlikely to access in-house training and development opportunities - you are there to see patients and don’t tend to get the perks. Would approach with caution as a new grad personally #Physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Thank you so much! It’s been a pleasure. #physiotalk Really grateful for all the work you guys do.
Lara | physio in UK @Larita_gc
@physiotalk If interested on a specific Trust, working as bank might not be such a bad idea. Gives you the opportunity to know the team as well as showing your skills and attitude for potential permanent jobs. #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
RT @bendotellis: @physiotalk I would strongly advise against going straight out of uni into a locum post. Bank can work if it gets a footho…
Nick Flanagan @PuppyFlanagan
@physiotalk Great tweetchat! I hope lots of @thecspstudents will see this helpful advice! #physiotalk #150leaders
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@Alliedhealthwfs @RoyalFreeMSK Thank you! #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@Esined1234 @physiotalk I would recommend working as a locum in anything you took an interest in any of your placements. The only reason I say this is that you are not committed to giving 1 months notice to something you may not like #physiotalk
RFH MSK Physio @RoyalFreeMSK
RT @Alliedhealthwfs: @RoyalFreeMSK @physiotalk Thank you so much! It’s been a pleasure. #physiotalk Really grateful for all the work you gu…
Beccy @BeccyWilsonn
@physiotalk Thanks all for a great tweetchat tonight! some really useful tips I'll take on board whilst applying for jobs in the upcoming months #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@puppyflanagan @beardedPT @physiotalk I agree with @bendotellis and would advise against agencies as a new grad. I would suggest seeking a permanent or temporary role within a trust to acces the support and development you need as a newly qualified #physiotalk
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@PhysioNatalie Is it common to know names of interviewer - not sure what HR sends out! #physiotalk
David Williams 🌈 @beardedPT
@puppyflanagan @physiotalk @thecspstudents One to have a read over next year - for sure! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@physiotalk @PhysioNatalie Yes often on interview invites #physiotalk
Caryl Hunter @CarylAPhysio
@beardedPT @puppyflanagan @physiotalk @thecspstudents This is one #physiotalk transcript that will be saved for definite
Janet Thomas @JanetThomas47
@Em_Garratt @physiotalk @PhysioNatalie Did wonder if many googled me last time I interviewed....!! #physiotalk
Dee @DeeThePhysio
@physiotalk I don't feel I would be ready to take on locum/bank work as a newly qualified. There's so much to learn that working ad-hoc and in various places without a regular team and training wouldn't be the way for me, maybe if you have bags of confidence it's another way in? #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@Em_Garratt @meeshr93 @physiotalk @Esined1234 Exactly, if the location was the only hurdle and you are flexible regarding the location, then you are as good as placed! #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@IanTyrrell5 @physiotalk Haha sorry @IanTyrrell5 - totally misunderstood. I thought you meant specialist areas within rotations. Yes agree with you a broad range of experience is beneficial! 😂😂 #physiotalk
Ian Tyrrell @IanTyrrell5
@beardedPT Honestly, if you havd or offered me that 11 years ago would have bitten your hand off. However I found after doing a respiratory rotation(that I was dreading) and then doing an 8 month stint on msk that there was only one winner. And it wasn’t msk! Choose carefully #physiotalk
Emma Garratt @Em_Garratt
@JanetThomas47 @physiotalk @PhysioNatalie Worried what they might find... 😳😂 #physiotalk
Ben Ellis @bendotellis
@Alliedhealthwfs @Esined1234 @physiotalk With respect, I think that’s dubious advice at best As a locum you’re there to pick up and run with a caseload from day 1 generally to plug a gap due to absence/vacancy. thats a very different scenario to rotating into an area or starting a static role as an employee #physiotalk
Chris Smith @Alliedhealthwfs
@JanetThomas47 @hannahmbarbour @physiotalk Hi Janet, not that I am aware of. We have developed the new graduate scheme with some NHS trusts that have the resources to offer a similar system to Flying Start. #physiotalk
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