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Dermatology Journal Club @DermatologyJC
Hey guys, To start, introduce yourselves and discuss any relevant conflicts of interest. Use the hashtag #dermjc for every tweet!
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
Here for #dermjc , anyone else here?
Allison Larson, MD @AllisonLarsonMD
Glad to be joining #DermJC tonight. I’m an assistant professor at Boston University
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Hi! I'm a resident at Stanford. COI: consultant for Enspectra health and former consultant for MiNDERA. #Dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
Dermpath in Virginia @vtcsom , no COI #dermjc
Dermatology Journal Club @DermatologyJC
#Dermjc: Here's a link to the paper again in case anyone needs it! Thanks to @JAMADerm for providing the link to the paper: https://t.co/yyyQklIb15
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
Are there full time dermatology hospitalists at your institution #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
RT @DermatologyJC: #Dermjc: #Dermjc: Here's a link to the paper again in case anyone needs it! Thanks to @JAMADerm for providing the link to the paper: https://t.co/yyyQklIb15
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
So what do people think about the paper? Do you guys do inpatient consults often? #dermjc
Allison Larson, MD @AllisonLarsonMD
@AdeAdamson No full-time derm hospitalists. We split the consult service equally. #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
Hi! I'm a resident at University of Puerto Rico. COI: none #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@AdeAdamson Not fulltime, but there are several attendings who split between supportive dermato-oncology and the inpatient service. The weekend service is shared across all attending. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@AdeAdamson I will say that if you call a #dermatology consult at our hospital, you WILL be seen in a timely manner. We take our inpatient service very seriously. I did my intern year somewhere where that wasn't available, and I can see the benefit! #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
Same at our institution, which is different from the first institution in which i was an attending.. #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
@RoxanaDaneshjou Inpatient consults get split here #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: Are there full time dermatology hospitalists at your institution #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
That's one question I have. Is it a dedicated dermatology hospitalist or is it just he service that is the important factor #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Interestingly though, I will say that we usually don't get consulted for cellulitis UNLESS something is behaving abnormally -- not responding to antibiotics, etc. And yet, according to the paper, about 30% of people were misdiagnosed by the medicine team. #medtwitter #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou At our institution residents are on-call at least once a week. We see consults from at least 6-7 hospitals and they range somewhere between 2-6 consults per day. #dermjc
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RT @OswardYadiel: @RoxanaDaneshjou At our institution residents are on-call at least once a week. We see consults from at least 6-7 hospitals and they range somewhere between 2-6 consults per day. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@OswardYadiel Are your attendings the same or not? #dermjc
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@AllisonLarsonMD @AdeAdamson I also wonder about the misdiagnosis rate outside of a large academic center. Those places are high volume and you would think they are going to be less likely to misdiagnose cellulitis. What might the misdiagnosis rate be outside? #dermjc
Allison Larson, MD @AllisonLarsonMD
@RoxanaDaneshjou I agree. We are usually consulted for cellulitis if there is a complicating factor. That said, a decent % of those are not cellulitis. The numbers seem about right to me #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou Attendings split consult time. They change monthly or bi-weekly depending if they are full or part time. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Hey #medtwitter #MedEd #FOAMed - follow #dermjc for the next hour to learn about consulting #dermatology for cellulitis and how that affects outcomes!!
Sona Jesrani @SonaJesrani
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Hey #medtwitter #MedEd #FOAMed - follow #dermjc for the next hour to learn about consulting #dermatology for cellulitis and how that affects outcomes!!
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
What did folks think about the potential cost savings from this intervention? #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Here are the outcomes - no change in length of stay, no change in readmission. Derm consult = shorter duration of antibiotics and greater clinical improvement in 2 weeks . So do you think #cellulitis should get a #dermatology consult every time or in specific cases? #dermjc https://t.co/lesZTHRKhY
Goran Micevic MD/PhD @gmicevic
@RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: 1) the misdiagnosis rate of 30.7%, and 2) most patients receiving >10 days of antibiotics despite guidelines #dermjc
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RT @gmicevic: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: 1) the misdiagnosis rate of 30.7%, and 2) most patients receiving >10 days of antibiotics despite guidelines #dermjc
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RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Here are the outcomes - no change in length of stay, no change in readmission. Derm consult = shorter duration of antibiotics and greater clinical improvement in 2 weeks . So do you think #cellulitis should get a #dermatology consult every time or in specific cases? #dermjc https://t.co/lesZTHRKhY
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RT @AllisonLarsonMD: @RoxanaDaneshjou I agree. We are usually consulted for cellulitis if there is a complicating factor. That said, a decent % of those are not cellulitis. The numbers seem about right to me #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
RT @gmicevic: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: 1) the misdiagnosis rate of 30.7%, and 2) most patients receiving >10 days of antibiotics despite guidelines #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@AdeAdamson Depends - how much $$ does it cost to consult #dermatology vs cost saved from less antibiotics given (less SEs, less resistance) and faster clinical improvement? #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: What did folks think about the potential cost savings from this intervention? #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
This study was at one institution, and arguably a reputable one but I'm not sure if every time a consult is required. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@AdeAdamson I agree. I think #dermatology consultation for #cellulitis should be limited to patients who are not responding to antibiotics appropriately or have abnormal presentations ("bilateral cellulitis"). #dermjc #medtwitter #FOAMEd
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RT @AdeAdamson: This study was at one institution, and arguably a reputable one but I'm not sure if every time a consult is required. #dermjc
Daniel Butler MD @DanielButlerMD
@RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson major consideration. So much of consultative derm is de-escalating concern/workup. Cellulitis is great example but that’s just tip. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Maybe #dermatology hospitalists should be giving talks to medicine residents/programs about cellulitis presentations and appropriate antibiotic use. And then discussing when is a good time to consult dermatology if help is needed. #dermjc #medtwitter #meded
Allison Larson, MD @AllisonLarsonMD
Yes, and those with a complex #derm history with concomitant ‘cellulitis’ #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou At our residency program we have a registry of the consulted patients. Last year (2017-2018) we got a really low rate of consults to rule out or to treat cellulitis #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @DermatologyJC: @AllisonLarsonMD @AdeAdamson I also wonder about the misdiagnosis rate outside of a large academic center. Those places are high volume and you would think they are going to be less likely to misdiagnose cellulitis. What might the misdiagnosis rate be outside? #dermjc
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RT @OswardYadiel: @RoxanaDaneshjou At our residency program we have a registry of the consulted patients. Last year (2017-2018) we got a really low rate of consults to rule out or to treat cellulitis #dermjc
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RT @AllisonLarsonMD: Yes, and those with a complex #derm history with concomitant ‘cellulitis’ #dermjc
Joseph Susa, DO @CutisViaLux
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Hey #medtwitter #MedEd #FOAMed - follow #dermjc for the next hour to learn about consulting #dermatology for cellulitis and how that affects outcomes!!
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RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Maybe #dermatology hospitalists should be giving talks to medicine residents/programs about cellulitis presentations and appropriate antibiotic use. And then discussing when is a good time to consult dermatology if help is needed. #dermjc #medtwitter #meded
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RT @DanielButlerMD: @RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson major consideration. So much of consultative derm is de-escalating concern/workup. Cellulitis is great example but that’s just tip. #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Hey #medtwitter #MedEd #FOAMed - follow #dermjc for the next hour to learn about consulting #dermatology for cellulitis and how that affects outcomes!!
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
To me I was impressed by 2 week follow up #dermjc https://t.co/OB3Wq1ab87
Sona Jesrani @SonaJesrani
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Maybe #dermatology hospitalists should be giving talks to medicine residents/programs about cellulitis presentations and appropriate antibiotic use. And then discussing when is a good time to consult dermatology if help is needed. #dermjc #medtwitter #meded
Aaron Drucker @aaron_drucker
@RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson Aaron at U Toronto (no conflicts). It’s not just the cost of individual consults. In our system we don’t bill a lot for an individual consult. To make a dedicated hospitalist service sustainable the system would have to put up $ for a dermatologist’s time as a whole #DermJC
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@DanielButlerMD @AdeAdamson Yup! Honestly, most of the inpatient consults we get are: -Rule out SJS/TEN -Rule out DRESS -Rule out erythema multiforme -Rule out disseminated zoster Which I can understand are hard to do if it's not something you regularly see or think about. #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
This is an excellent point! What you are paying for is specificity, NOT sensitivity. #dermjc 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
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RT @AdeAdamson: This is an excellent point! What you are paying for is specificity, NOT sensitivity. #dermjc 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
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RT @aaron_drucker: @RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson Aaron at U Toronto (no conflicts). It’s not just the cost of individual consults. In our system we don’t bill a lot for an individual consult. To make a dedicated hospitalist service sustainable the system would have to put up $ for a dermatologist’s time as a whole #DermJC
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: @DanielButlerMD @AdeAdamson Yup! Honestly, most of the inpatient consults we get are: -Rule out SJS/TEN -Rule out DRESS -Rule out erythema multiforme -Rule out disseminated zoster Which I can understand are hard to do if it's not something you regularly see or think about. #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: To me I was impressed by 2 week follow up #dermjc https://t.co/OB3Wq1ab87
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
@aaron_drucker @RoxanaDaneshjou For academic practices in the US, this means that non-hospitalist derm attendings have to subsidize the hospitalist attending in order to make the math work. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@aaron_drucker @AdeAdamson And I can see how this might be particularly beneficial at an academic or tertiary center where you are dealing with cutaneous chemo reactions, GVHD, SJS/TEN, DRESS, and other #dermsaveslives type diagnoses. #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: @aaron_drucker @RoxanaDaneshjou For academic practices in the US, this means that non-hospitalist derm attendings have to subsidize the hospitalist attending in order to make the math work. #dermjc
Sara Shalin @MightyDermPath
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Maybe #dermatology hospitalists should be giving talks to medicine residents/programs about cellulitis presentations and appropriate antibiotic use. And then discussing when is a good time to consult dermatology if help is needed. #dermjc #medtwitter #meded
Sara Shalin @MightyDermPath
RT @gmicevic: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: @RoxanaDaneshjou For me, two things were striking: 1) the misdiagnosis rate of 30.7%, and 2) most patients receiving >10 days of antibiotics despite guidelines #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Here are the outcomes - no change in length of stay, no change in readmission. Derm consult = shorter duration of antibiotics and greater clinical improvement in 2 weeks . So do you think #cellulitis should get a #dermatology consult every time or in specific cases? #dermjc https://t.co/lesZTHRKhY
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@aaron_drucker @AdeAdamson Just curious - what is the inpatient #dermatology service like at University of Toronto? #dermjc
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RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: @aaron_drucker @AdeAdamson And I can see how this might be particularly beneficial at an academic or tertiary center where you are dealing with cutaneous chemo reactions, GVHD, SJS/TEN, DRESS, and other #dermsaveslives type diagnoses. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Here are the outcomes - no change in length of stay, no change in readmission. Derm consult = shorter duration of antibiotics and greater clinical improvement in 2 weeks . So do you think #cellulitis should get a #dermatology consult every time or in specific cases? #dermjc https://t.co/lesZTHRKhY
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Maybe #dermatology hospitalists should be giving talks to medicine residents/programs about cellulitis presentations and appropriate antibiotic use. And then discussing when is a good time to consult dermatology if help is needed. #dermjc #medtwitter #meded
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: Interestingly though, I will say that we usually don't get consulted for cellulitis UNLESS something is behaving abnormally -- not responding to antibiotics, etc. And yet, according to the paper, about 30% of people were misdiagnosed by the medicine team. #medtwitter #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
I'm also curious what the most common things people get consulted for at their respective hospitals. As I think has been mentioned, many people don't get consulted for cellulitis. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @DanielButlerMD: @RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson major consideration. So much of consultative derm is de-escalating concern/workup. Cellulitis is great example but that’s just tip. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: @DanielButlerMD @AdeAdamson Yup! Honestly, most of the inpatient consults we get are: -Rule out SJS/TEN -Rule out DRESS -Rule out erythema multiforme -Rule out disseminated zoster Which I can understand are hard to do if it's not something you regularly see or think about. #dermjc
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RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: I'm also curious what the most common things people get consulted for at their respective hospitals. As I think has been mentioned, many people don't get consulted for cellulitis. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @AdeAdamson: This is an excellent point! What you are paying for is specificity, NOT sensitivity. #dermjc 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
Drug rash, drug rash, drug rash. #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: Drug rash, drug rash, drug rash. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: @AdeAdamson I agree. I think #dermatology consultation for #cellulitis should be limited to patients who are not responding to antibiotics appropriately or have abnormal presentations ("bilateral cellulitis"). #dermjc #medtwitter #FOAMEd
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @DermatologyJC: @AllisonLarsonMD @AdeAdamson I also wonder about the misdiagnosis rate outside of a large academic center. Those places are high volume and you would think they are going to be less likely to misdiagnose cellulitis. What might the misdiagnosis rate be outside? #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@OswardYadiel What are you most often consulted for? #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @DanielButlerMD: @RoxanaDaneshjou @AdeAdamson major consideration. So much of consultative derm is de-escalating concern/workup. Cellulitis is great example but that’s just tip. #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou Rule out SJS/TEN, DRESS, or other drug eruptions like fixed drug eruption Rule out deep fungal infections (Heme/Onc consult our service a lot for this) Rule out SSSS, Bullous impetigo, severe atopic dermatitis (at the pediatric hospital) #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
Also curious - how often do you do telederm inpatient consults (look at a picture?). We have a policy of always seeing the patients in person within a day. #dermjc
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RT @OswardYadiel: @RoxanaDaneshjou Rule out SJS/TEN, DRESS, or other drug eruptions like fixed drug eruption Rule out deep fungal infections (Heme/Onc consult our service a lot for this) Rule out SSSS, Bullous impetigo, severe atopic dermatitis (at the pediatric hospital) #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @RoxanaDaneshjou: @DanielButlerMD @AdeAdamson Yup! Honestly, most of the inpatient consults we get are: -Rule out SJS/TEN -Rule out DRESS -Rule out erythema multiforme -Rule out disseminated zoster Which I can understand are hard to do if it's not something you regularly see or think about. #dermjc
Dorothy N. Charles, MD @dn_charles
RT @DermatologyJC: Looking forward to #dermjc about #dermsaveslives #skinserious @JAMADerm paper on Wed Sept 19 at 9 PM EST/6 PM Pacific. #Dermatology consultation for inpatient cellulitis. Great topic for #MedEd #FOAMEd #medtwitter #dermatologia. Special open access link: https://t.co/yyyQklIb15 https://t.co/bFuBPgvCpa
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
I'll be honest, I'm not familiar with how billing works with inpatient dermatology hospitalist teams. Sounds like it has to be subsidized by the outpatient service. Therefore is it even feasible for places outside academic centers? #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
Teleconsults are probably underutilized for inpatient dermatology #dermjc Policy is different based on institutions I've been affiliated with.
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@AdeAdamson I can imagine teleconsults could also allow more inpatient dermatology consults to hospitals that are more remote or don't have a large enough case load to have a full time dermatology hospitalist service. #dermjc
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RT @AdeAdamson: Teleconsults are probably underutilized for inpatient dermatology #dermjc Policy is different based on institutions I've been affiliated with.
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou Sorry I’m late to the party! To answer your question, yes, in most places, outpatient practice probably subsidizes. Sometimes you can convince other specialties or the hospital itself to subsidize if you can demonstrate the value you bring. #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou Probably drug eruptions (SJS/TEN, DRESS, etc) and rule out deep fungal infections. We get a lot of consults of rare cases because we are the only hospital/center in the island with dermatology service #dermjc
Allison Larson, MD @AllisonLarsonMD
@RoxanaDaneshjou Agree with drug rash. Also flares of severe hidradenitis, worsening wounds of various kinds, blistering diseases, eczema herpeticum, progressing cutaneous malignancies and other concerns related to the clinical niches of our faculty and, as a consequence, their patients. #dermjc
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RT @DrStevenTChen: @RoxanaDaneshjou Sorry I’m late to the party! To answer your question, yes, in most places, outpatient practice probably subsidizes. Sometimes you can convince other specialties or the hospital itself to subsidize if you can demonstrate the value you bring. #dermjc
Osward Carrasquillo, MD, MPH @OswardYadiel
@RoxanaDaneshjou Telederm is not allowed here. We have the same policy of ALWAYS seeing the patients in person. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@DrStevenTChen Kinda sad when you really think about it, especially since helping rule out SJS/TEN or diagnosing GVHD is much more clinically valuable than freezing an AK or wart. #dermjc
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RT @AllisonLarsonMD: @RoxanaDaneshjou Agree with drug rash. Also flares of severe hidradenitis, worsening wounds of various kinds, blistering diseases, eczema herpeticum, progressing cutaneous malignancies and other concerns related to the clinical niches of our faculty and, as a consequence, their patients. #dermjc
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RT @OswardYadiel: @RoxanaDaneshjou Probably drug eruptions (SJS/TEN, DRESS, etc) and rule out deep fungal infections. We get a lot of consults of rare cases because we are the only hospital/center in the island with dermatology service #dermjc
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou Yes, agreed! But I’m obviously preaching to the choir.... I seem to recall that highest earning services are usually onc (transplant) and cards, so one strategy is to make your consult team indispensable to these teams/services! #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@DrStevenTChen But because of this, there is less incentive for people to do derm hospitalist jobs unless they are really passionate about it, and I feel like it's an important and underserved area. #dermjc
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou @OswardYadiel Haha... I work at Mgh, where this work was done, so we get a much higher cellulitis consult rate given the studies performed here. But definitely an outlier nationally I’m sure. #dermjc
Roxana Daneshjou MD/PhD @RoxanaDaneshjou
@DrStevenTChen @OswardYadiel Do you think your cellulitis consult rate went up after people saw the 30% misdiagnosis rate? #dermjc
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RT @DrStevenTChen: @RoxanaDaneshjou @OswardYadiel Haha... I work at Mgh, where this work was done, so we get a much higher cellulitis consult rate given the studies performed here. But definitely an outlier nationally I’m sure. #dermjc
Ade Adamson, MD MPP @AdeAdamson
Thank you for another informative #dermjc. I'm looking forward to the next installment!!! https://t.co/yMLrvAorO0
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RT @AdeAdamson: Thank you for another informative #dermjc. I'm looking forward to the next installment!!! https://t.co/yMLrvAorO0
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
Got to go for the night #dermjc was great to tune in for, thanks!
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou Yes! There is a push by the @DermHospitalist (SDH) to spread the news about our value! These articles are the start; we need to keep demonstrating our value in literature! I think the best way to improve our stature is to show the rest of the med community were needed. #dermjc
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We're always happy to take paper recommendations if there is something that people are really interested in discussing. And yes, you can suggest your own paper or a colleague's! #dermjc
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RT @DrStevenTChen: @RoxanaDaneshjou Yes! There is a push by the @DermHospitalist (SDH) to spread the news about our value! These articles are the start; we need to keep demonstrating our value in literature! I think the best way to improve our stature is to show the rest of the med community were needed. #dermjc
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou @OswardYadiel Yes, but to be honest, it also came from other articles (eg the ALT70 paper) where derm consult is recommended based on a score. If you put a score in front of the ED, I feel it’s going to be used ;) #dermjc
Patrick Rush @DrPatrickRush
RT @DrStevenTChen: @RoxanaDaneshjou Yes! There is a push by the @DermHospitalist (SDH) to spread the news about our value! These articles are the start; we need to keep demonstrating our value in literature! I think the best way to improve our stature is to show the rest of the med community were needed. #dermjc
Goran Micevic MD/PhD @gmicevic
@RoxanaDaneshjou In my experience, derm is rarely consulted here for cellulitis not responding to initial antibiotics - it would more likely result in an infectious disease consult on our general medicine floors. Dermatology does get consulted if there is suspicion of other skin entities #dermjc
Steven Chen 陳持威, MD, MPH, MHPEd @DrStevenTChen
@RoxanaDaneshjou We do this! But it seems no matter how much we talk about it, there are always more cases to be seen. In other words, I haven’t seen an appreciable decrease in consults because of an educational intervention (which hurts my #MedEd feelings). #dermjc
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RT @DrStevenTChen: @RoxanaDaneshjou We do this! But it seems no matter how much we talk about it, there are always more cases to be seen. In other words, I haven’t seen an appreciable decrease in consults because of an educational intervention (which hurts my #MedEd feelings). #dermjc
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RT @gmicevic: @RoxanaDaneshjou In my experience, derm is rarely consulted here for cellulitis not responding to initial antibiotics - it would more likely result in an infectious disease consult on our general medicine floors. Dermatology does get consulted if there is suspicion of other skin entities #dermjc
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