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 | UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Good evening everyone, welcome to another #ukmedlibs chat, tonight on guerrilla open access. @tomroper at the controls tonight |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs And you can find questions at https://t.co/w8Hdd8ZrPl and some background reading. But first, who’s joining in tonight? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare Multi-tasking! Impressive #ukmedlibs |
 | Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn Hi #ukmedlibs I’m Holly, Outreach Librarian at @SASHLibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Variously known as guerrilla open access, black open access, biblioleaks, scholarly piracy. But do library users ask about it? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs For background, idea for this chat came from discussion on lis-medical (British listserv) on #icanhazpdf #ukmedlibs |
 | shecanhazpdf @hecanhazpdf RT @UKMedLibs: For background, idea for this chat came from discussion on lis-medical (British listserv) on #icanhazpdf #ukmedlibs |
| Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn Although none of my users have ever directly asked me about it, they have alluded to asking uni friends #ukmedlibs |
 | Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim Hello #ukmedlibs ! |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim 1. I think people everywhere (users & non-users) are probably using them! #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs So what implications are there for us? #ukmedlibs No more ILL/document delivery? |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @SallyReynolds18 @nhslibman #ukmedlibs That’s a pragmatic consideration, yes. But what about the ethical side? |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare @nhslibman Agree, though it was a major theme in the lis-medical discussion #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @nhslibman @UKMedLibs @SallyReynolds18 This! Think they feel they're only accessing something that *should* be free/OA - so morally it's fine! #ukmedlibs |
| Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn @UKMedLibs I think what people have already said is true - our users want thing when they want them, they don’t want to wait #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @nhslibman @UKMedLibs @SallyReynolds18 I can't disagree that where publicly funded research is behind a paywall something's already amiss... #ukmedlibs |
| Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn @UKMedLibs Users also don’t understand why they have access to some things at one trust, but not at another #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @nhslibman @UKMedLibs @SallyReynolds18 Not that two wrongs make a right. of course! #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Our question 3 tonight is about our relationships with publishers: what effect will these tools have on it? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare @emilylovedhim @nhslibman @SallyReynolds18 Though publishers seem to prefer to ask for sites to take down papers posted in breach of licence https://t.co/MdGEyrVOwr #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare @emilylovedhim @nhslibman @SallyReynolds18 Rather than go after the individual who may have put it on something like ResearchGate #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs So can we make the case to publishers on behalf of our users? https://t.co/TmkAhVTaZx |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Not the point of tonight’s discussion, but we’re not that great at making our own professional literature available #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @SallyReynolds18 @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare @nhslibman Haven't tried. Don't think it's same ppl, think the idea is it's give & take, diff ppl have diff access so everyone shares #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @SallyReynolds18 @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare @nhslibman I'm not endorsing it though!! And there must be ppl who supply more. They prob would get fed up after a while... #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @tomroper @samanthaclare @Hollingtonn @UKMedLibs It's all in the presentation! #ukmedlibs |
 | Hugh Hanchard @hanchardh q3 charging model is wrong - should look at what happened to the music industry and learn a thing or two #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @samanthaclare @SallyReynolds18 @UKMedLibs @nhslibman Yep, a sort of Robin Hood complex! #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @nhslibman So, apart from taking a lead with our own literature, could we do more to promote OA to potential authors? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs By the way, it’s #openaccessweek next week https://t.co/Gz7uACXOSY A chance to do something? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs And the publishers would give you 25 copies for this purpose, as I recall #ukmedlibs |
 | Emily Couvillon @emilycouvillon @nhslibman @UKMedLibs Great point! Tenure and promotion committees might be the most important people to include in OA efforts. Need to rethink model #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Lots of suggestions for action coming out of this #ukmedlibs chat. Who’s the best people to take these forward? @CILIPHLG? #HEELKS? |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs And, internationally, @EAHIL, @MedLibAssn? #ukmedlibs |
| Emily Hopkins @emilylovedhim @UKMedLibs @EAHIL @MedLibAssn It probably needs united action, as things need to cross national boundaries so all of the above! #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs RT @samanthaclare: |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs We’re coming to the end of the hour. We’ve answered Q4, and Q5, I think. Any more reflections on this issue? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs @samanthaclare Is tonight a step towards rectifying that? #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs Thanks everyone for participating tonight. Transcript and analytics will be up tomorrow. #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs And next month we’ll be talking about training and development needs: how we analyse and meet them #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs You are now free to worship the baking gods #ukmedlibs |
| Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn @UKMedLibs Thank you for hosting, great topic! #UKmedlibs |
| Holly Case Wyatt @Hollingtonn RT @UKMedLibs: And next month we’ll be talking about training and development needs: And next month we’ll be talking about training and development needs: how we analyse and meet them #ukmedlibs |
| UKMedLibs @UKMedLibs RT @UKMedLibs: And next month we’ll be talking about training and development needs: And next month we’ll be talking about training and development needs: how we analyse and meet them #ukmedlibs |
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