A tweetchat leads to an unprecedented, public discussion about the multi-faceted costs of patient advocacy and the concept of begging to work for free.
Hotel Points and the #BCSM Chat?
I was showing my colleagues at Symplur the deep analytics obtained via Signals for the 5/20/19 #BCSM (Breast Cancer Social Media) chat.

I had been the guest-host for that chat.
Hi and welcome to all! I am your guest host tonight as @stales is on a plane! I am Liza in L.A., I am (fingers always crossed) NED from 3 primary breast cancers ('94, '05 and '09), and am all in for advocacy and art :-) #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
They immediately asked why were we talking —a LOT — about hotel points on #BCSM. When I explained that the chat was about the costs of advocacy, and that it related to the concept of “begging to work for free,” their reaction progressed from their initial surprise to understanding, and ignited curiosity.
Familiar #BCSM Chat Topics — From Cancer Guilt to Medical Meeting Recaps
A quick look #BCSM over the years provides context to the initial surprise at the idea of “hotel points” as a trending term. Since its inaugural chat on July 4th, 2011, #BCSM continues to convene a multidisciplinary range of stakeholders including patients, physicians, caregivers, researchers, and others in the field of breast cancer, and covers topics ranging from Cancer and Guilt…
RT @jodyms: tweetchat at 9 PM ET on #cancer and guilt: an unfortunate side effect for some. #bcsm
— Liz Szabo (@LizSzabo) September 13, 2011
… to Metastatic Breast Cancer…
The other thing abt living with mets, is our worlds start to shrink. That's where fearless friends are so important. #bcsm
— CCChronicles (@ccchronicles) January 24, 2012
… and, Shared Decision Making, and beyond.
Tonight – we have 3 questions – we're talking about Patient Engagement, Shared Decision Making and Treatment Decisions. Big Themes #bcsm
— Alicia C. Staley (@stales) April 5, 2016
#BCSM also serves as a way to learn about and discuss the latest research developments. Physicians, researchers, and patient advocates regularly share findings from key medical conferences in the space, including those for SABCS, ASCO, AACR, and ASBRs, via live-tweeting (beyond the scheduled chats, the hashtag connects stakeholders 24/7), and post-conference recaps.
Tonight's #bcsm – highlights from last week's @ASBrS annual meeting #ASBrS19 https://t.co/ExYtyHNoWP all are welcome to join, 9pm ET
— Dr. Deanna Attai (@DrAttai) May 6, 2019
In sum, there is an expectation that these chats mainly concern issues faced by patients and families, peer-to-peer support, and the dissemination and discussion of research.
“Begging to Work for Free” and the Costs of Advocacy
Given however, the longevity of the #BCSM community and one of its core functions as a connector of patient advocates — the vast majority of whom have lived experience of the diagnosis — it makes sense that at some point, we advocates would delve into what it takes to do what we do.
I came up with tonight's #bcsm topic because of experiences I and so many of us have had as advocates. We are going to discuss The Costs of Advocacy (Financial, Physical, Emotional, etc.) and Ideas to Address Them." #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
“Begging to work for free,” this caustic-sounding, yet 100% reality-based concept, was first shared with me by my fellow advocate Julia Maues when we were talking via Twitter direct messages about our frustrating experiences with a conference scholarship program. It’s what led to my idea for the chat’s topic.
As more and more conferences publicize their must-follow lists of tweeting MDs, it’s time to recognize and better facilitate and reward the work and the considerable impact of engaged patients and advocates.
Also, speaking of conferences, they benefit greatly from having engaged patients participate — see this from @symplur https://t.co/VdeH6ZLXRx They should be paying us! #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
Indeed, for us, going to medical meetings is a key aspect of what I like to think of as our self-appointed job descriptions. We attend them to:`
- Keep learning about the topics of interest and import to ourselves and our constituents.
- Share that knowledge both in real time by live tweeting, and after the fact via presentations, blog posts, podcasts, etc.
- Expand and deepen our multi-stakeholder networks by meeting all the people — not “just” our fellow advocates — IRL (in real life). This can lead to productive collaborations and can also be fun!
Another –#bcsm coffee break! #sabcs18 @itsthebunk @IBCResearch @jrgralow @ShehasMBC @coffeemommy @stales @stage4kelly @christeeny513 @itsnot_pink pic.twitter.com/0YvFff3EaH
— Alicia C. Staley (@stales) December 6, 2018
The Financial Costs of Advocacy
Costs add up when patient advocates attend medical meetings, even when we benefit from scholarships and reduced registration rates, as illustrated by the following selection of tweets from the chat.
I recently was not able to attend a conference, even though I received a generous scholarship. The amount just didn't allow for travel from the West Coast to the East, plus airport transfers and hotel…. #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
A1- Financial costs of advocacy- this has been a big topic lately with a lot of people I’ve been talking with. Conferences, travel, extra time needed if someone isn’t doing great physically and/or needs a caregiver to also come- it really adds up- and who pays? #BCSM https://t.co/Hmd8jWT3k1
— Gail Zahtz (@GailZahtz) May 21, 2019
I think this really needs to be addressed. We talk about #patientsincluded and patients being a voice “at the table” but the costs of travel, its complexity and the reality of living life with a condition can make it too hard. #BCSM https://t.co/LwVD8nhI2j
— Gail Zahtz (@GailZahtz) May 21, 2019
More often than not: no. The hardest thing for advocates who are also on disability is coming up with the funds up front to be reimbursed. Conferences that have covered travel (flight/hotel) make it MUCH easier when we are already financially struggling in many cases. #bcsm
— Victoria K (@ChefGeib) May 21, 2019
Registration fees are another issue! I’m in DC so conferences that are here I can attend without travel costs. But as @itsthebunk has heard me say “I’m already working for free! Can’t expect me to pay to do it!”#bcsm
— Julia Maues (@itsnot_pink) May 21, 2019
Consequences of these costs include inequity in representation:
Due to the financial costs of #breastcancer advocacy, many underserved women rarely get a chance to have their voices heard…even when the topic is focused on women in need! It’s a ridiculous situation.#bcsm
— FollowHeidi (@FollowHeidi) May 21, 2019
In order to attend events as an #advocate, I use vacation days from my full-time job. Many #breastcancer #Patients don’t have that same opportunity, and therefore can’t attend.#bcsm
— FollowHeidi (@FollowHeidi) May 21, 2019
It was great to be able to converse with a representative of a conference organizer, especially as they have been working to improve patient advocate access:
t1 our organization provides scholarships but a lot of times it’s not enough and also many patients can’t afford upfront . We are making changes to our process this year and also move our conference around to make sure we try and make it a little easier #bcsm
— Theresa’s Research (@MetastaticOdds) May 21, 2019
Thanks I think by working directly with patients we can improve the process. We most recognize that advocates are more than patients- they have so many talents that can help lead to real progress #bcsm
— Theresa's Research (@MetastaticOdds) May 21, 2019
We continued to share tips for navigating the costs and ideas for improvement:
T1-Offer paid up front advocate scholarships. Fronting the money for travel and hotel etc is a burden. Orgs need to put their money where their mouth is if they reallywant patient involvement. #bcsm
— Jennifer (@vitalfrequencis) May 21, 2019
T1a I get creative. Scholarships, help with the conf, share rooms, travel by bus….basically pick what's most imp to you & search out ways to do it. Most of us dont have unlimited $$$ #BCSM
— IBC Research Fdn (@IBCResearch) May 21, 2019
YES, patient stipends should def be a part of it. When we attend confs, we are there to WORK. We live-tweet, we bring research back to our communities, we expand the audience, and as @itsnot_pink pink rightly says, it often feels like we have to beg to work for free. #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
If we really want patient advocates at conferences and other travel events, we have to make real compensation for expense that are just realistically higher for patient advocates than say hcp advocates. For example, perhaps longer stays for rest. Caregiver coverage. #bcsm
— Gail Zahtz (@GailZahtz) May 21, 2019
Hotel Points, Airline Miles, and #BCSM
This is how we got to those trending hotel points:
yes, I didn't even know donating miles or hotel points was an option until it was discussed online. The process was easy #bcsm https://t.co/7qYkIR4eiV
— Dr. Deanna Attai (@DrAttai) May 21, 2019
It was @METUPorg that put out the request at the time, they then put me in touch w/an advocate who needed travel assistance and we sorted out how to get her some of my miles to cover the flight #bcsm
— Dr. Deanna Attai (@DrAttai) May 21, 2019
A few days after the chat, I used Signals to scour the database and found this:
Look what I found! The tweet thanking @DrAttai for her airline miles donation to @METUPorg for #sabcs18 #bcsm https://t.co/AKSQqbiyyD
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 24, 2019
Back on the chat, the concept of donated airlines and hotel points continued to resonate, sparking many a retweet, as well as a brilliant idea:
I’ve always like the idea of sponsors helping #patients get to #advocacy events-it can be done easily!
Companies+individuals can donation airline miles, hotel points, rental car points, etc. people are afraid to ask for this kind of assistance but it’s necessary. #bcsm— FollowHeidi (@FollowHeidi) May 21, 2019
it was a one-time, one-on-one thing, not sure if there are any advocacy organizations who accept donated miles / hotel points and then distribute – but sounds like a great non-profit idea if it doesn’t exist already #bcsm
— Dr. Deanna Attai (@DrAttai) May 21, 2019
Who’s starting the nonprofit to coordinate airline miles, hotel points, and conferences that support patient advocates?? 😋 #bcsm
— Hillary Stires, PhD (@HillStirSci) May 21, 2019
And, days after the chat, tweets kept coming as new thoughts arose, for example:
Another cost of #advocacy: no access to journals!
Advocates want to be up-to-date on science in order to review grants & provide feedback on research.
Access to papers isn’t free! We want subscriptions to academic journals! #bcsm @nature @NEJM @AACR @TheLancet @JCO_ASCO https://t.co/PPz4bXEK5o
— Julia Maues (@itsnot_pink) May 23, 2019
Body, Mind, and Soul — Additional Costs of Advocacy
Patient advocacy is not for the faint of heart, as it incurs costs beyond the financial. Whether we attend conferences across town or on the other side of the world, mentor the newly diagnosed via phone or video-call, or tweet up storms from the couch, we rely on the resources of our bodies, our minds, and our souls. We also touched on these topics during the chat, and shared tips for handling them.
One of the reasons I don’t travel much is travel drains me so badly. I get sick after and end up needing even more time off. #bcsm
— Leslie (@Leslieks) May 21, 2019
Are there conferences with scheduled nap times? 😂 #BCSM
— Leslie (@Leslieks) May 21, 2019
Seriously, we’ve been talking about this- many patients need scheduled rest time. The schedules can be too demanding while juggling with one’s own illness. A break place for rest would be really excellent for #inclusion #BCSM
— Gail Zahtz (@GailZahtz) May 21, 2019
SABCS was intense. And we didn’t really have a place to hang out and just relax. Again, especially hard for metastatic patients on drugs forever. An advocate lounge is definitely a must. With food! #bcsm
— Julia Maues (@itsnot_pink) May 21, 2019
I look at sessions with other advocate friends that are going beforehand so we can sometimes divide, conquer and make sure we are still practicing self care. We still go to some all together, but scheduling this ahead of time helps. We always meet up and share notes later #bcsm
— Victoria K (@ChefGeib) May 21, 2019
Also, I treat advocacy as my job and have developed boundaries to have a “work/life balance”, but it’s taken a while.
Saying no is the hardest thing for me still because it feels like an opportunity lost, but I have to balance my self care and needs along with my work #bcsm
— Victoria K (@ChefGeib) May 21, 2019
Yes! My thought process is usually:
– Why I am doing this?
– So my friends and I can live longer
– Why do I want to live longer?
– To spend more time with my son
– Then be conscious of not missing too much time with my son while I’m still here#bcsm— Julia Maues (@itsnot_pink) May 21, 2019
The costs can end up feeling all encompassing, for instance when conferences expect advocates to fundraise to attend.
It is hard to ask for help when you have already exhausted your community by asking for help to deal with your cancer… and now there are big orgs with big pocket sponsors who want advocates to fundraise to attend their confs. NO. #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
This is why we need to be proactive to help advocates be advocates. As you mentioned, being a patient means asking for help more than anyone would have ever imagined. A cost of advocacy shouldn’t be going into that reserve. #BCSM
— Gail Zahtz (@GailZahtz) May 21, 2019
Last but not least, the aspect of this work that both likely takes the largest toll, and provides the enduring flame for so many of us to keep at it. The losses of our friends, loved ones, and fellow advocates:
The losses we face take a huge emotional toll. You have to find a way to cope. #bcsm https://t.co/703G8mwFTj
— IBC Research Fdn (@IBCResearch) May 21, 2019
I’ll just emphasize @IBCResearch‘s point about the toll of losing friends we make along the way. It is SO HARD. Last month I was in a hotel here in DC and remembered the last time I was there two friends were with me and now they’re both gone 😢 #bcsm
— Julia Maues (@itsnot_pink) May 21, 2019
YES, the emotional toll of this work we do is immeasurable. Mourning the terrible losses, dealing with our own trauma, fear, anxiety, etc. And as @MightyCasey mentioned, telling our stories is painful beyond measure. #bcsm
— Liza Bernstein (@itsthebunk) May 21, 2019
Lessons for Conference Organizers
In Symplur Signals, the chat’s most retweeted item was from cancer research scientist and advocate, Hillary Stires, PhD. Her lessons for cancer research conference organizers apply to all conferences in healthcare. Yes, there are conferences that already do this well, yes there are conferences whose organizers have the best intentions, however, even in the best of circumstances, given the benefits that engaged patients and advocates yield, there is always room for improvement!
Lessons for cancer research conference organizers from #bcsm:
-when planning a conference, include patient advocates from day 1
-secure funding BEFORE asking advocates to attend
-ensure your speakers know advocates will be present (#scicomm!)
-have a designated advocate area— Hillary Stires, PhD (@HillStirSci) May 21, 2019
For more about this chat, please see the analytics and full transcript.